how it impacts them. because one of the questions i get asked when i'm on the streets or when i'm on the train is, what does this mean for me? and what are people who are representing me, doing for me doing about it? >> hello? it's 11 eastern, 8 a.m. pacific. thanks for staying with us. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. and any moment now, president trump will deliver remarks alongside saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman at an investment forum full of top executives and policymakers there in riyadh, saudi arabia. now, this comes as dealmaking takes center stage on the president's first diplomatic trip of his second term. the white house just this morning announcing what it calls a historic $600 billion investment commitment from saudi arabia. the president signing this deal in front of the cameras this morning. let's bring in nbc news senior white house correspondent

kelly o'donnell, along with davos, co-anchor of pbs newshour and msnbc contributor, and rick stengel, former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs. he's also an msnbc political analyst. kelly, what can we expect to hear from the president as soon as he gives us his remarks? and what more are we learning about this investment? >> well, on a running behind schedule here, the president having some extended executive time. we don't have an update yet on when he will appear, but this will be a keynote address to talk about what he believes is a big part of the agenda for this middle east visit to try to spur investment, increase partnership between the united states, saudi arabia and many american companies that are represented here. when you talk about the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia, it is a long partnership. but there have been periods where it has been tense and difficult, related to different objectives on the

world stage, and certainly with the crown prince, mohammed bin salman. there has been periods where the united states had a very harsh view of him with respect to some of the decisions he made on human rights, on the death of jamal khashoggi. and the president is certainly sounding a very positive tone, talking about their friendship and their relationship. that is often a key part of how the president exercises leadership, emphasizing personal relationships. here's part of what he had to say about that bond earlier this morning. >> you, my friend, we've had a tremendous relationship over the years. it's now a long time to know each other. when you visited the white house, i remember it so well and i was so impressed with this young guy who who was very wise, wise beyond his years. >> so the president certainly wanting to have a good relationship with the real

decider in saudi arabian government, the crown prince, and also emphasizing the potential for business relationships, for partnerships in diplomacy, and on trying to deal with some of the concerns the united states has in this region where saudi arabia obviously has not only a great deal of land, but a lot of authority, certainly in the arab world. and that's part of the partnership that the president is trying to emphasize on this trip. ana. >> now, what do these developments tell us about the president's priorities and the current state of the us-saudi relationship? >> i think it's important to underscore what kelly was just reporting there. what we've seen in these announcements from the white house, the billions of dollars of saudi investments in the u.s, billions of dollars of u.s. weapons sales to saudi as well, is what they're saying are economic ties that, as they put it, will endure for generations to come. they're hailing it as sort of a new golden era of partnership. these are deals that talk about energy and

defense and tech and the mining of critical minerals. these are not diplomatic deals. and some of the largest challenges for this administration remain on the diplomatic front. two of the biggest challenges for president trump and his white house remain in iran. and with israel's ongoing war in gaza. and we know for crown prince mohammed bin salman in particular, gaza is a sticking point. you remember in the first trump administration, the historic abraham accords, they were able to secure were the number of arab nations recognized officially israel as a nation state for the first time, that so-called normalization between saudi arabia and israel has not yet happened. it is on hold, according to the crown prince, until there's a ceasefire in gaza and there's some sort of credible plan for statehood, which, of course, israeli prime minister netanyahu has roundly rejected. so that remains an enormous challenge for this administration. we know the president's senior envoy, steve witkoff, has hinted that there

could be additional some kind of announcements on that front at some point, but there remains a lot of daylight between these two partners on this one main issue. >> rick, what do you make of the huge focus on economics and investment and less on diplomacy and the regional stability issues, the conflicts in the region, human rights issues? does it make sense to you? >> well, it makes sense that they're avoiding all that. i agree with what was just said. i mean, the great goal that trump would have, the real the cherry on top of everything would be a normalization agreement between saudi arabia and israel. that's just not going to happen while israeli troops are in gaza, even though the saudis have never been great fans of the palestinians and never supported them, they can't on the world stage do an agreement with israel while they're there. israeli soldiers killing palestinians. so the you can always depend on the saudis to do business deals. that's what

trump is doing. he feels like he's bringing home the bacon there. but but the diplomatic goals will probably elude him. again, the relationship with iran, he can get some saudi backing for his position. but of course, you know, the. >> do we even know what that position exactly is? >> well, you know, i don't mean to be facetious, but his position is whatever he does will be the greatest deal in history. of course, the saudis and the iranians don't get along. saudi sees iran as a greater threat than they see israel, so it just makes it very complicated. >> i'm thinking back to the visit in 2017, when trump made his first big trip overseas, also to saudi arabia. all the pomp and circumstance, the sword ceremony that happened at that time, and just kind of the kind of shock value that it all had. how do you see the evolution of the trump and mohammed bin salman relationship, and where does saudi arabia fit into the world order right now?

>> i actually met with mohammed bin salman in riyadh in 2015, and he's kind of an extraordinary figure, wants to be perceived as a as a reformer. but of course, it's a repressive society. it's an autocratic society. it's not a democratic society. there's no free speech. the main difference, i would say, between this trip and that original trip is that he's going to three countries where his family has business deals. he's going to saudi arabia, qatar, uae. in the last few weeks, the two sons have been visiting there. they've announced real estate deals with all of them. i mean, donald trump likes to say all the time, never before in american history, well, never before in american history has a president visited three countries in succession on his first foreign trip, where he has business deals. >> and he has not divested from the trump organization at this point in the second term, notably among the group meeting with the saudis during this bilateral meetings there earlier was jared kushner, the president's son in law. he doesn't have a role in this

administration. so why is he there? >> well, he was certainly prominent in the first administration as a senior advisor, husband of ivanka trump, of course. and since he left the white house, he also has had a very lucrative business arrangement with the saudis, with the $2 billion investment in his venture capital firm. and so he also has business interests. but he was also a significant figure in the abraham accords in the first term. and so there is some overlap in terms of his interest areas, his relationships, and certainly being visible here. the president has been very clear about not trying to back away from the business interests. the white house fiercely defends that the president is doing everything ethically. meanwhile, there are all of these questions about conflicts of interest and the family enriching itself through business. he has not stepped away from generating even

foreign investment, which they tried to do during the first term, to say that any foreign investment in their trump organization businesses would be returned to the federal government. not so in this second term. so this has the potential for building relationships. as rick said, the trump brand is prominent in these countries. so as the president is extending the united states brand, the trump brand is also very much present. elon musk also here, an adviser to the president, talking about his various businesses with saudi leaders. so there's a real confluence of official government, business and personal business on this trip. >> yeah, there's a blurred line for sure. amna. again kushner doesn't have an official job in the administration by the way. we're looking at pictures right now. it appears live images there in riyadh as president trump arrives at this investment forum expected to address the crowd there at any moment. we'll of course take some of those remarks. but jared kushner wasn't on the guest list, so it

was surprising to see him show up since he's not part of this administration. he was involved, of course, in that last administration of the trump, the trump term, first term. meantime, we also know kushner has private equity firm business. he received billions from saudi arabia's sovereign wealth fund. do you see any reason for kushner to be part of today's talks? >> i think the president would argue that he has a role to play here, given his history and the previous mediation and securing of the abraham accords, as kelly noted thereto, and his ongoing relationships in the region, the president in this white house would probably see as an asset. we know this is a president who surrounds himself with people who he knows to be loyal to him, who he trusts for their guidance and their insights. and we know that jared kushner has long been a part of that inner circle, even if he is not in any official capacity serving in this white house in this term. but this issue of trump's potential conflicts here comes

up again and again, and it's certainly on full display with the trip to this region where the trump family has significant investments and conflicts at play. it's also come up, of course, with the plane that we've been reporting on that the qatari government has promised as a gift to the trump administration. we know that's been a priority for this president. he has defended his decision to potentially accept it. he was asked about this before departing on this trip and basically said, i would be stupid not to accept this $400 million gift. we also know an upgraded plane has been a priority for him. he has on display in the oval office, a model of the one that boeing had contracted to build an upgrade for him. so this is continuing to be to be an issue that we cover with this president. >> okay. we'll continue to cover this trip and the remarks that are expected at any moment. kelly o'donnell, amna nawaz and rick stengel. thank you all. coming up here on ana cabrera reports exactly what it would take to retrofit that ultra

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they were in a relationship for ten years. they were consistently on and off relationship, and she she described it as they would have lots of arguments. violent arguments, she said, usually resulted in physical abuse dragging different things. he would smash my head, knock me over, drag me, kicked me. she is asked by the prosecution how frequently her answer frequently. were you ever injured? her answer? yes. usually i would get knocks on my forehead, black eyes, red eyes, bruises all over my body. it just depended. and then she showed. she showed a still image of that infamous video from the los angeles hotel where he is assaulting her. and she says in response to that, that's me. intercontinental hotel having an encounter. we call it a freak off. now, how would you describe what a freak off is? and she explains that of having sexual encounters called voyeurism, sexual encounter with a third party. and she pointed out that this was something that sean

combs introduced to her, and she said that she at some times would be in charge of hiring the person and she would do it because she wanted to make him happy. she was in love with him, but she was also asked, what were you afraid of? she says, i was it was always in the back of my mind that i would somehow be hurt by him. sean is a really polarizing person. he was very charming. he was hard to decide in that moment when he was telling you what he wanted. i just didn't know what would happen. and then the testimony goes on to talk about, and she is taking a deep sigh. at this moment, we should point out that she is in her eighth month of pregnancy with her third baby, and she's asked by the prosecution, you talk about blackmail materials, she says. actual videos and photos of sexual encounters. and she was concerned that if ever those she did not do what combs wanted her to do, that those videos would be released and it would be

damaging to her career. anna. >> oh, wow. rehema ellis, very disturbing details. thank you very much for bringing us that. that's just the start of cassie ventura's testimony. again, the prosecution's star witness in this trial against sean diddy combs, and she could be on the stand for hours, if not days. keep us posted, rehema. thank you. up next, here in ana cabrera reports the high stakes debate today on capitol hill that could impact your wallet from taxes to medicaid cuts, plus congressional reaction to qatar's jumbo gift to the u.s, to president trump specifically, and who top democrats are now calling to testify about that president expected to speak at any moment. we'll continue to monitor those images out of saudi arabia. stay with us. >> life happens. kids. pets. spills. luckily, stanley steamers, deep carpet cleaning lifts, dirt, allergens and stains, leaving your home

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forced to pay for this temporary plane, does it mean the us government will cancel the contract for the future boeing plane? if so, how much will that cancellation cost? and if not, why are american taxpayers being asked to spend hundreds of millions of dollars or more on a plane that will only be used for a year or two? >> that was senate minority leader chuck schumer of new york, asking what the trump administration's long term plan is with the qatar gift. that big jumbo jet to be used as air force one. now, in those same

remarks, schumer said he would place a hold on all justice department nominees until attorney general pam bondi answers his questions. on if president trump's acceptance of this plane violates the constitution's emoluments clause. let's go to the hill and nbc news capitol hill correspondent melanie zanona. also with us is former republican governor of ohio john kasich, and professor at columbia university and democratic strategist basil smikle. both areanalysts. meland from the democratic leader. but are republicans there on capitol hill feeling the same? >> for the most part, republicans. >> are ducking and dodging or in some cases, even defending donald trump. the line we've heard most from republicans is that there can't be anything fishy or suspicious about this, because both sides are being upfront about the arrangement. but it's very clear that there are republicans who are at least a little uncomfortable and a little queasy about this whole thing. but instead of criticizing trump or saying he

shouldn't accept the plane, instead they're talking about how we already have a plane. of course, that is air force one. just take a listen to these mixed responses from republicans. >> are you concerned about this? >> just on its. >> face, the idea of accepting. >> a plane in this way from the qataris? >> well, it's pretty transparent. so it's not like it's going underneath the radar here now, is it? i have a lot of thoughts on it. what are your thoughts? answer your question specifically. i'd have to defer to ethics people on that point, but i know this. i've written on air force one, and there's plenty of quality there for the next 50 years. >> now, there is at least one exception in the gop that is republican senator rand paul. he says he thinks it's a bad idea or a mistake for trump to accept this plane. but so far, few other republicans echoing those concerns right now. >> governor kasich, we know senator rand paul is calling this a mistake and saying that the plane as a gift sends the wrong signal. how do you view it? >> well, when i was governor, you know, i had.

>> to get off. >> of everything. >> i mean, i was on a board of just. >> a of a of a. >> place where i hung out. >> with it was of no significance whatsoever. look, i hope. >> when i. >> got done. >> being governor. >> maybe i'd give me a bicycle. i mean, when. >> i heard about this, i just sort of chuckled and laughed. but look, the. >> reason why. >> you don't take things is because you get. >> influenced. >> you know, it just doesn't make any sense to me that, i mean, this is so on a frankly, i mean, i don't know how you even make this stuff up. it's so ridiculous. and do i think he should take the plane? no, i don't know what the qataris are trying to do, but when i was in office, i always operated with a little being, a little bit paranoid that i need to make sure that i don't cross any lines, that i don't get into bad conflicts, that i'm i'm not in a situation where, you know, people are going to start questioning my ethics. and so that's the way that i operated, and i think it's the right way to operate. you don't get into trouble. and yet we're not

talking here about, you know, some minor thing. we're talking about a jumbo jet, right? yeah. 747 as a gift. what? >> they're calling it a floating palace that's worth billions of dollars at a time. by the way, when american people are saying, i'm having a hard time paying for groceries, the optics of that sends another signal. but, basil, we know, we know. democrats on the hill are calling for an ethics investigation. i just wonder, do they have power to do that? and is there anything else they can do? >> well. >> what. senator schumer said earlier with holding up the justice department nominees, i think is an important first step. and it's important also because pam bondi herself was a lobbyist for the government of qatar, $115,000 a month for almost two years. are you kidding me? there are tremendous potential ethics violations and conflicts of interest involved. and i always think about this because i always try to sort of

think if situations were reversed, imagine if barack obama got a tricked out airplane from another country. i could only imagine the memes, the horrible memes, some of them probably funny, but some really horrible memes that would have been all over the internet. >> i have to think the republicans would have been saying something different than what we played as well. >> different? i mean, it would be it would be horrendous. so, you know, the governor's right. anybody that's ever been in government should understand that. you have to act with a little bit of paranoia. i was in every level of government. if i had a dinner over a certain amount of money, i had to report that. so a $400 million plane, which is probably worth a lot more, is a violation of at many other levels. >> we're looking at these live images as we expect the president any moment there in saudi arabia to address this economic forum. so we'll keep an eye on that. in the meantime, melanie, there's a lot happening on the hill as it relates to the budget. and i want to ask you about the medicaid fight brewing

there. two key house committees that oversee the program are set to meet this afternoon to discuss potential cuts. what's the latest? >> yeah, this has been one of the biggest sticking points in this debate over trump's big domestic policy bill. and at issue here is that conservative hardliners have been calling for massive cuts to medicaid in order to pay for their tax priorities, whereas moderate republicans have warned against making any cuts to medicaid. and so the final product that is getting a committee vote later today attempts to essentially strike a balance between those two camps. it does not include some of the steepest potential cuts to medicaid, like reducing the federal match rate, but it does include some pretty significant changes, such as instituting work requirements, something that is not currently in place for able bodied adults who don't have dependents. there's also going to be more frequent eligibility checks, and there's also going to be a crackdown on noncitizens who are on the medicaid rolls. so this is going to be a big showdown later today. it could result in millions of americans losing their medicaid coverage. so far,

we're hearing they're going to have the votes in committee. the bigger question is what happens on the floor potentially next week on a governor? >> roughly 9 million americans could be impacted by medicaid cuts. this issue, we know, has divided republicans. gop senator josh hawley of missouri calling it, quote, morally wrong and politically suicidal. what do you make of those remarks? >> i know when i when i became governor because i actually had a handle medicaid. i don't talk about the old days, but i have to point out some facts. when i came in, the medicaid was growing at about 9%. okay. it was it was a high rate of growth. i expanded medicaid and put 600,000 more people on the rolls. but my medicaid program was actually growing at about 4.5%. it's now growing. my understanding is over 10%. well, how did we do that? because we reformed the program. we made sure that we took care of people who were the most vulnerable, but we also were able to make tough decisions how much money we were paying providers, you

know, can we have a system that stresses quality? there's many ways to reform this program where you can stop the significant growth in the program and yet still protect the vulnerable, but that requires tough decision making. it requires character. it requires leadership. i believe that it can be done, but you have to do it. you have to do it carefully. in addition to that, look, i think that the whole health care system, whether it's medicaid, medicare or any of the costs that we have, if i were in charge, if i were the president, i would gather all the doctors, all the hospitals, the pharmaceutical companies, the insurance companies, and look at healthcare and have a system that rewards keeping people healthy, not giving them rewards for treating people, to keep giving them tests when they're sick. this is a big idea. it's something that should be done because our health care system can be more effective, can be more efficient, can be more transparent, all that can happen. and so that's what i have to say. >> i think people in both

parties can agree with all of that. you just said in terms of what is needed to improve the health care system. basil, we've seen this, this dance before where republicans propose health care cuts. democrats campaigned against. it seems to work out in their favor. i'm wondering this time around, you know, it seems that democratic voters are saying you got to do something more. what can democrats do? where does the party go from here? >> well, i think calling out exactly the some of the challenges with these cuts and what it will do for the average for the average american. you also tie that to the fact that you're cutting, you're cutting significant parts of the social safety net, on the one hand, and prices are going up on the other, particularly with these tariffs. so if you're in a rural community, if you're an exurban community, and if you're a small business, you know, all of these things are going to affect your bottom line and costs for the average american are going to go up. but by the way, we're also cutting your health care at the same time. so i think using a lot of that language, in addition to the fact that and this is going to josh hawley's

op ed, you've got republicans in blue states in tight districts that are going to be significantly impacted by this, especially a state like new york, by the way, that salt tax right there, the republicans were supposed to bring that back didn't happen. so or the or the reimbursement. so you know what? there are a lot of ways in which democrats can talk about how republicans are taking, taking, taking and not giving back. that's not what so-called republican values have been. but democrats can be restorative in that regard and try to put more money back in the pockets of americans. >> i know on the salt tax issue, that's a battle that's still brewing is not completely a done deal yet. we'll have more to say on the tax front another day. thank you so much, melanie zanona, john kasich and basil smikle appreciate all of you. and there are new questions this morning about the trump administration's refugee policy after 59 white south africans were welcomed into the united states as refugees on monday, the administration claiming they

were subject to racial discrimination at home, an allegation the south african government denies. this all coming almost simultaneously with the department of homeland security revealing plans to terminate protected status for afghans who aided the us in its war against the taliban. nbc's gabe gutierrez joins us now from washington. gabe, this action is highly controversial. in fact, the episcopal church, which for decades has helped with refugees, announced it will not assist in resettling these newly arrived afrikaner refugees, citing moral reasons. what happens now that they're here? do we know what led up to them getting refugee status, how this all went down. >> well. >> and as you. >> said, this is highly controversial. and yes, the refugees arrived at dulles, as you mentioned, they're going to be sent to ten other states, boarding planes there to be resettled. and this is all part of what the trump administration says that it wants to do for this group because of what it says is racial discrimination in south africa. of course, this

group was responsible for apartheid rule, and the government in south africa vehemently denies there was any racial discrimination or any sort of genocide going on, which is what the president said yesterday. he was asked about this yesterday at the white house. here's what he said. >> farmers are being killed. they happen to be white, but whether they're white or black makes no difference to me. but white farmers are being brutally killed and their land is being confiscated in south africa. i don't care who they are. i don't care about their race, their color. i don't care about their height, their weight. i don't care about anything. i just know that what's happening is terrible. >> again, the south african government denies that allegation. now, ana, i asked white house deputy chief of staff stephen miller about this resettlement late last week, and he said he justified this by saying that this is what the refugee resettlement program was supposed to be for us. racial discrimination and not economic poverty. and we should note this

comes as the trump administration has essentially sealed off the country from other refugees, including black sudanese fleeing genocide there and also latin americans feeling violent gangs. and they're fleeing violent gangs in their countries. ana. >> there's also what's happening with the afghan population. what more can you tell us about the administration ending deportation protections for afghans? >> yeah, that's right. the department of homeland security yesterday announced that it was ending temporary protected status, and that could affect up to 14,000 afghans who are living in the u.s. now. tps temporary protected status allows immigrants to live and work in the united states without fear of deportation. but the trump administration has been reducing that for a number of different groups, including immigrants from countries such as cuba and haiti. yesterday, though, we learned that they were about to do that starting in july. for afghans and this some veterans groups are very upset by this because those afghan refugees,

in many cases, had worked with the u.s. under during the war and also would face persecution from the taliban if they were to return to their home country. >> ana gabe. >> gutierrez, thanks for that report. next on ana cabrera reports critical radar and radio fixes now underway at newark's airport. but there's no band-aid in sight to fix the shortage of air traffic controllers. what it could mean for your summer travel plus, after three decades behind bars, the menendez brothers get their long term or long sought chance at freedom. we're live at a courthouse in california where they're resentencing. hearing is just a moment away. >> work, >> play. >> blink. relief. work. >> play. >> blink. relief. >> blink. relief. >> the only 3 i unplug... and unlock.

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years, and it's hasn't been anything like this because for many years it was the wrong track. and i can tell you for the last four years it was definitely the wrong track, but it's the highest it's been in many, many years. we renamed the gulf of mexico into the gulf of america. that was very popular, other than perhaps with mexico. and most importantly, for the people in this room, the days of economic misery under the last administration are rapidly giving way to the greatest economy in the history of the world. we are rocking. the united states is the hottest country, with the exception of your country, i have to say, right, i won't. i'm not going to take that on. no. mohammed, i'm not going to take that on. i wouldn't that be a terrible thing if i made that full statement? but i will not do it. you're hotter. at least as long

as i'm up here. you're hotter. but groceries, gasoline, energy and all other prices are down with no inflation. we have no inflation. and a few short weeks we've created 464,000 brand new jobs. think of that. almost a half a million jobs created just in a matter of weeks. we just reached a historic trade agreement with the united kingdom, and over the weekend, we reached a breakthrough agreement with china, both outstanding deals. china's agreed. we have to get it down. we have to get the little details down. and scott, you're going to work on that very hard. but china has agreed to open up to the united states for trade and everything else, but they have to do it. so we'll see what happens. but we had a very, very good meeting with both of those countries. we are cutting ten old regulations for every new regulation. we're getting rid of all of the red tape. that is so

many, frankly, countries, as they get older, they develop a lot of red tape and we're getting rid of it. we're getting rid of it at record levels. and i'm pleased to report that the united states congress is on the verge of passing the largest tax cuts and regulation cut in american history. we think we're in good shape to get that. and if we get that, that will be like a rocket ship for our country. in the first quarter of the year, the investment in america was up an astounding 22%. more than $10 trillion of new investments have been announced or are coming just since the election on november 5th. so think of that in a very short period of time. we have over $10 trillion and it could be much higher than that. not everybody comes to the white house to have a news conference that they're going to be opening up in america, but they're all coming in at numbers that we've never seen before. if you take a look. >> at monitoring again, that gives you a taste of the

president's remarks to this investment forum talking about military recruitment, polling, renaming the gulf of mexico and praising what his administration has done when it comes to america's economy. touching on inflation, there was the report today showing up 2.3% year to year. he talked about trade. the deal paused rather with china tariffs. talk about regulation. his hope for tax cuts. let's bring back rick stengel, former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs. your thoughts on what we just heard from the president? he's addressing a global audience here at this economic forum, but really talking about more of what you would expect for an american audience. >> yes. it's kind of his greatest hits. to your last point, i mean, traditionally when a president is abroad, he doesn't attack the other party or attack his opponents. he was attacking biden. you know, a number of wrong assertions. you know, actually, trade is down.

since he announced this tariffs, there's been a cratering of ships coming to the us and the western ports and eastern ports. he was incorrect about what he said about china. china has made no concessions. they've come to a temporary agreement. so i just think there's a lot of. >> they've paused some of the tariffs that they had initially done because of the escalation and the reciprocal nature of tariffs that we saw imposed. >> but, you know, he's a salesman and he's and he's selling the us on the international stage. you know, he made that remark. that the us was the hottest country for business except for saudi arabia. flattering mohammed bin salman who is who is sitting there. but, you know, i more and more think this is a kind of a conflict of interest tour. they're making all kinds of personal deals that trump family as well as business deals for usg. they're not achieving the diplomatic goals. we talked about that before. so we have to

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responsibility for several lies. initially told to try to cover up the murders. now, the da's office has attempted once again to try to withdraw resentencing, claiming that the brothers risk to society has since elevated from low to moderate risk, citing a critical risk assessment that was conducted by the state parole board. and in it, they cite psychologists who allegedly wrote in that cra that the brothers were caught sneaking contraband into prison, including a cell phone, and that eric purchased and traded drugs and also assisted other inmates in conducting tax fraud. now, the judge will decide today how much of that cra will be allowed in court. also, we expect to hear from the defense's witness. there's going to be about seven family members, several volunteers and two experts who are expected to testify. now the big question is what happens next? the judge can either decide to resentence both brothers, just one of the brothers, or neither of the brothers, which ultimately leads to a third option, which would be clemency granted by governor

gavin newsom. it's unclear exactly how quickly the judge will make that decision during this two day hearing. >> ana dana griffin, thank you. and what do you see as the factors that could be most influential to this judge in making his decision? >> well, i think that risk. assessment is a very. >> big deal because the. >> first one was although risk assessment now it's moderate. and then these issues from in custody because the judge is going to look at are they rehabilitated or have they paid their debt to society. and restitution. is deterrence factors that satisfied here. and then finally there's a part of sentencing which is basically retribution. and that's allowable to say, you know, have they done enough time? is there enough retribution for the terrible crimes that they allegedly committed? so then the prosecutors coming in and saying, if they don't admit that they did it and they weren't abused, i can't recommend that they be resentenced to a lower sentence. so the factors are really big with the judge. it's up to the judge. what's so interesting to me is i used to

say that there are three things in life that are certain death, taxes, and that the menendez brothers would be getting out. that's back with gascon, the prior prosecutor. now there's a new sheriff in town, a new da, who's basically saying the opposite, which is they should never get out, including not now. >> yeah. what do you make of that complete split between these two district attorneys? >> well, you know, you basically went from something that was quote unquote woke. it was said about gascon and, and then the new prosecutor, who was like a law and order. and he's saying these people, they blasted their parents. the parents were having, i think, dessert in front of the television set when they were killed and there should be. and then they went and spent a lot of money. so that's what this prosecutor said. he's looked at everything, all the trial transcripts, everything else. and he's not convinced until they confess that they weren't abused. and that was not a defense. he's not convinced he'll be on their side. you spoke. yeah, i did. i spoke to eric in connection with the documentary i was in called

eric speaks. it was on a&e. lovely person and very convincing. and that's why i thought he would be getting out. both of them. i don't think one or the other are going to get out or not get out. i think it's going to be both of them. but then looking today, you know, in terms of where the da is coming from, all i'm going to say is i'm just not so sure. we have a two day hearing coming up. it could go all the way to friday, but the judge is going to hear from everybody, including the quote unquote victim family. and there's a lot of them in the family, except for katie's brother saying that they should get out. the question is, it was like parole. now it's a question of life with. sorry. go ahead. >> no. no apologies. i think there was like a there's just like a little bit of a delay. so i don't mean to step on you, but you're just going through so much interesting information here. when you spoke with eric menendez, you just called him a lovely person. is how he struck you. if you were defending these brothers, what would your strategy be for this hearing? >> you know, i would i would be

i would come in with humility and i would come in with empathy, you know, for what has happened to this family and, of course, to their parents. i would not be strident about this defense of abuse, because it's not really a defense unless you're threatened with imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm. i mean, i can go into the details on legal, but i don't need to do that. but i would come into this, you know, basically with deference to the judge, appreciation to the judge. and also they need an explanation for any of these issues that happen in custody, not just to basically ignore those kinds of things because the judge is going to look at those things. but, you know, it's been a long time. and the question is, should they have been sentenced with parole? that's really the pre-sentence issue. they're looking at clemency potentially with the governor. and that habeas petition is still in place. so there's really three. >> and bremner, thank you so much for joining us with that analysis. great to have you

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