canceled. >> yes. >> thanks so much for having me on. and that is correct. we. >> the northeast. minneapolis rally protest and the anoka city protest have both been canceled because of the shelter in place orders and the existing threat that is still out there. but the saint paul college and saint and the capital, minnesota capital protest is still planning to go on. we have a large, you know, group of security and, you know, volunteer medics and marshals here. i don't know, you see, probably some of them behind me, but we are planning to move forward here. but this is a very tragic day for minnesota and for our country and for democracy. political violence should never be a resort here. and these assassinations, which is what they are politically motivated assassinations are absolutely unacceptable in america. >> and generally, jacob, that's

that's a view that's held by the overwhelming majority of americans, regardless of political party and regardless of who the subject of the assassination is. that's a very red line that will be crossed. i wonder if some of these protests around the country, including yours, whether that's a unifying force where people are going to come out and say, we want our democracy a certain way, we have the right to protest. it's a first amendment right. we don't we don't cross lines into political violence. >> yeah, i would hope so. i would hope that this is a unifying moment. but unfortunately, as we've seen time and time again, it usually isn't. we have too many people and too many elected officials, including the current occupant of the white house, who escalates rhetoric and violent rhetoric against political opponents. and that leads to these kinds of tragic events. it is absolutely unacceptable in every single elected official should be condemning this, regardless of their political party. but i don't have the

greatest hope for some people to actually come out and do that, unfortunately. >> jacob, is it your message? and i don't know how much you're communicating this, but i think it's still an important day of protest. is it your message to the people in anoka and northeast minneapolis that they that there are other protests, they're not that far away that they can join? yours is not on a map. it's not that far. >> it's not that far. what i would say is local residents, if they are, you know, we're planning to go to the anoka or the northeast minneapolis rally. they should first and foremost check local safety advisories around shelters in place. and if those are still in place, i would do that because this this is still active and dangerous situation. but for people who maybe were outside of that area and planning to go there, i would encourage them to join a different rally nearby, a different protest nearby, if they feel safe to do so. but this is a, you know, a hard day.

so i think it is understandable if people don't feel that that desire at this point. but but i, i believe that it is not only our, our right to publicly and peacefully assemble like this, but it is our duty in these times to come together and to be visible against these acts of terrorism that are trying to silence dissent and trying to silence people's voices, who are fighting for our communities. and that is what unfortunately happened this morning. >> the police were asked, other than the shelter in place situations, they were asked about the other demonstrations, including the one at the state house, and they they said they've got resources to keep those environments safe. >> yes, yes. and i believe that's still the case. like i said, here in saint paul, we do have, you know, a large group of marshalls and security and volunteer medics that are helping protect people coming out and exercising their right

to protest. and so we are hopeful that things will remain calm and safe here. but this morning is a tragic reminder that no matter what you are doing, that can change because of the heightened violent rhetoric in our community. >> jacob, thank you for joining us this morning. and stay safe through the course of the day. jacob thomas is the communications director for one of the rallies that is taking place in minneapolis. two of them, anoka and northeast minneapolis, have been canceled by virtue of potential danger in the area because this manhunt is underway for the suspect in the killing of a state representative in minneapolis and her husband, and the shooting of a state senator and his wife, state representative melissa hortman, has been killed. her husband, mark hartmann, has also been killed. and it was at their house there was a shootout. the suspect got away. he had arrived in what looked like a police car. again, we are not clear as to whether this was a real police car or a

mock up police car. he doesn't have the car he left on foot. we don't know whether he's procured another car in the meantime, but he's he's now a fugitive. joining me now on the phone is christopher o'leary, senior vice president of global operations with the soufan group. he's the former director of hostage recovery for the us government and a former senior fbi official. chris started his fbi career at the minneapolis field office. chris, thank you for being with us. i'm here with rob d'amico, by the way, and we've been talking a lot about this, but this is an area that you first of all, you know, the physical area. and, you know, the fbi is heavily involved right now helping out local police in trying to close close in on on this fugitive. what can you tell us? >> well. >> yes, i did work early in my career in minneapolis. you know, it's really a series of small towns in. >> and around. >> minneapolis and saint paul. all of these departments work closely together. so i know there's a unity of effort trying to identify this individual and

track them down. as rob, who has a ton of experience with hunting fugitives, can tell you, it's critically important to try to locate this individual before more harm is done. and that means. either to the population, the citizens of the area where they could be exposed or, you know, if this individual is still going to go on with his or her plot to go after maybe other state lawmakers. so what i would be asking is, you know, can we find out if this is a single individual or, you know, if he's part of a group, is this a grievance against these two lawmakers in particular? did they vote on something that inflamed him or irritated him to the point that he mobilized towards violence? or as they're, you know, you know, gathering evidence, doing search warrants, searching the car, doing the ballistics and everything that

the information they have in hand. did this individual follow a certain ideology, or could he, you know, be part of a group? and, you know, from the fbi standpoint, is this terrorism? you know, it certainly looks like political violence, but is it just based on a grievance or is it, you know, again, an ideology and a group. and that could be either from the far right, a militia movement in one of these patriot movements or a neo-nazi group, or from the left, an anarchist group who's looking to inflame things and, you know, bring down kind of more, you know, broad based societal violence. and both the far right and the far left have these, you know, anarchist or accelerationist groups who just want broader violence and really the collapse of our society and for different reasons. >> chris, let me ask you this. you were saying, are they working with somebody else? and we don't know, because if it is an ideology, it could be. i think you and rob have both had

experience with people who do this sort of thing, where they're lone wolves and there are others who are part of a broader ideology, but they're not necessarily connected. we don't know that. but when the police were asked if this person acted alone, i don't know how they were asked to, but they said they've got people of interest. they use the term people of interest, plural, i don't know, does that mean anything? does that really mean they're people of interest, or does that mean they they they're narrowing it down, but they probably have a good idea. are you able to determine that? >> i think it depends on what they're basing that on. so do they have this individual fully identified. and now they're already trying to illuminate his or her network and going into, you know, chat rooms or social media that he followed or, you know, where they're gathering. we know that this individual was part of an established group, or is it information that was left behind, you know, were there pamphlets in the vehicle that they recovered? did he say something to, you know, the two victims that have survived and were, you know, was there some kind of interview of them that indicated this while, you know,

before they went into surgery? so those are things that they are really trying to ascertain at this point. and it's tough to say, but it's also, you know, how heavily armed and committed is this individual based on maybe an ideology that he's following? or, again, was this a specific targeted attack based on a grievance that he had against these two lawmakers? >> yeah, that's a good way to think about that. i hadn't really figured out how to articulate what the different things could be. the fact that there's a list doesn't mean it's an ideology. it doesn't. but it could could be a grievance, could be an ideology. who knows? but everybody i've talked to, including rob and jack, we're sort of explaining that generally speaking, in 2025, in america, you can't get away from this for too long. you can't really be a fugitive for too long. and everything he does, whether he tries to get a car or he tries to get food or he breaks into someone's house, will narrow the perimeter that they're they're searching for him in. i guess the question is this what's your evaluation of the level of danger to those involved? two of the protests have been canceled because

they're asking people to shelter in place. and really, i guess the greatest danger right now is to people in the vicinity of wherever this guy is. because he's a bit desperate. he's probably figured out that the cops are onto him. >> yeah. so there's a, you know, an inherent danger whenever there's an armed fugitive on the run. but, you know, what you're highlighting is, you know, the polarization in america, if this individual is following a certain ideology or as part of a group, and this is part of it, this the targeted violence against democratic lawmakers was part of the movement. and he thought that this violence, this mobilization towards violence, he would be the vanguard of bringing about, you know, more change then that's concerning because you're, you know, you know, obviously something different. but like with the boston bombing, when the tsarnaev brothers, you know, had the real, you know, shootout with law enforcement and with the bombs, they were planning on going down to times square to do a secondary attack. so was this

individual looking to do more damage this weekend? that's certainly something i would want to know. one last thing i'll highlight again, because i spent quite a bit of time in minneapolis. i was actually on the fbi swat team out there. things get real very fast when you get out of the twin cities. so you get just, you know, a little further up from, you know, brooklyn park, and it gets very, very, very rural. and so if this individual is from there, most minnesotans are very comfortable in the woods. and the concern would be that this becomes a rural manhunt very quickly. >> chris, thank you. i appreciate your expertise and for you hustling to get on with us as quickly as we do. we're also talking to jack cavanaugh and jim cavanaugh and to rob damico. i want to take a quick break. we'll continue with this break. we'll continue with this you know, we're not so different from plants, are we ryan? plants need food like people need food. like this really good organic plant food from miracle-gro. these peppers look hangry, ryan. feed 'em, don't just stand there!

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we're talking about. i was just speaking to jacob thomas, who's the organizer of one of the rallies in minnesota. two of them we knew were canceled, anoka and northeast minneapolis. we now have a post from the minneapolis, from the minnesota state police that says, given the targeted shootings of state lawmakers overnight, we are asking the public to not attend today's planned demonstrations across minnesota out of an abundance of caution. now, we had heard in the press conference about an hour and a half ago that police had said they've got the security to be able to handle this situation and that the protests can go along as planned. rob d'amico is with me. andrew blankstein is with me. rob, this is a this is a new development. tell me what you make of this. because they had said we're good with this. >> i think they probably now are figuring he may not be in the box that they thought he was in. we talked about it just a few minutes ago. if he got in a vehicle very quickly after getting out of the back. >> because he had he had a gun and he is in a police uniform. so. >> so and the cops were from the

front. he he engaged, they engaged in a shooting. he got out the back. if he could have got a vehicle at that point and got out of that, that smaller perimeter where they thought they had him, they now may be saying, wait a second, we've really searched this. we're not finding them in the small perimeter. he may have got out of it before we had a chance. so that then spreads out where he could be. and now they're starting to say, wait a second, we have these protests going on. lots of people could be problems. we're going to start asking people not not to go to some of them. >> so the community is going to be the eyes and ears. right now. there's one important thing, and that is, as you mentioned, this, check your car. make sure your car is where it is, and if it isn't, tell police. because if he did nab somebody's car these days, it's relatively easy to track a car. >> yeah, absolutely. because most people don't buy the systems that you can get. some do. yeah. but they all have the ability to be tracked. right. so that's that's one thing. if you find out again they probably went to say you haven't seen him or all your vehicles here. you know, if you park in the street or in the garage, can you go

check them with police officers to give safety? and they say, wait a second, my car is gone. say it's a jeep. you know, cherokee. well, they can then subpoena, you know, the company that actually monitors those locations and you can start looking for them that way. so there's all kinds of electronics down. and then i'm sure the, the cellular analytic folks in the fbi that do an unbelievable job, they can start figuring out what phones were pinging off of, what towers when certain things happen, and then they can start narrowing down what that phone may be. and then if it's still in an area for hits, another tower. >> so that's. >> all that's. >> going on. >> right now. all that technology in the background is going on. >> now, andrew, tell me what you got. >> well, at. >> this point. >> you know. >> beyond what's. >> going on. >> in minnesota. >> obviously the. >> there's rallies. >> marches and everything gearing up and. >> law enforcement across. >> the country, which are monitoring. in fact, in california, there were 200 scheduled events today across the state, 30 to 40 in the in the southern california area. i was down at los angeles police department headquarters yesterday where there was a

press conference where they were discussing, obviously, you know, the preparations there. so when you when you talk about what's gone on in minnesota, there's a lot of information being shared with law enforcement, not only here in southern california, but across the country who are anxious to kind of get a sense of what of what happened. as we know, kind of early on, it's been described as a targeted shooting and now killings. and at this point, trying to motive is always hard to ascertain. early, this person appeared to have some kind of a law enforcement looking uniform or vest. there's a list my colleague tom winter has has reported. so the question is beyond some of the fact gathering on the ground and this in this apparent manhunt as we speak, what are the implications? you know, beyond that, the reverberations on a day where there could be

hundreds of thousands or even millions of people turning out around the country to rallies, again, isolated in one sense, but in another sense, law enforcement across the country is looking very carefully at events in the minneapolis area. >> right. we have so few, thank god, and touch a lot of wood, political assassinations in this country or attempted assassinations that this doesn't it doesn't matter whether it's local. you know, one of the biggest, the last two major assassinations of political people were city council. one was in new york and one was harvey milk in san francisco. and these things never, never seem local, even if the reason is particularly local. there's something that happens to the american psyche when a when an elected person is assassinated or, or attempted assassinated, which says, hold on. that's not that's not how we operate. it feels personal, even if you're nowhere close to it. >> well, and ali, as we as we've seen in the last week, the temperature has been really turned up in terms of the fear

and anger here in los angeles, from from the ice operations. we've seen protests grow from the dozens to the, you know, tens of thousands. and then when you add into it today's events, we're talking, you know, potentially in the millions. what i covered in, you know, in 2006 protests, the grand march here in in los angeles, one of many across the country than to deal with at that point, federal legislation that was cracking down on immigration. those were peaceful protests. but when you look at kind of the backdrop to some of the things that we've been seeing and then obviously events today, it's definitely something that's top of mind for police officers and people having to kind of not only make sure that people have their first amendment rights expressed and protecting that, but also reacting to things that potentially are could hurt

people in the crowd or be criminal in nature. >> i'm just getting an email in here, andrew, that i'm quickly taking a look at from hakeem. jeffries has requested requeste, stepped up security for the minnesota congressional delegation as well as members across the country. i've asked the us house sergeant at arms and the united states capitol police to ensure the safety of our minnesota delegation and members of congress across the country. the targeting of elected officials must end now. andrew, stand by for a second. i'm going to go to cedric alexander, former community safety commissioner for minneapolis. cedric, this has changed the game a little bit because as we were talking an hour and more ago, police felt that the demonstrations and the protests in, in and around minneapolis were generally safe, with the exception of anoka and northeast minneapolis. they've now asked everybody not to attend these, which may have something to do with where this manhunt may be. it also may have something to do with the fact

that they've got some sense of what the motivations were around this. they haven't shared that with us, but i guess the question is whether the motivation is ideological or or specifically grievance based. >> well, it's very well possible that police, both local, state and federal may be operating off of information that we're just not privy to at this moment. but as you heard me say earlier, ali, is that we certainly need to take precautions across all of our 50 states across this entire country, including puerto rico, everywhere. need to take precaution at this moment. and even there in washington, d.c, among our federal legislators, i think it's important that everyone be on alert. we do not know anything about this subject. at least we as the public do not know anything at this point about this subject. we don't know how he fled that scene, but here i have to back

up a little bit and ask this question. if he fled that scene in the middle of a shootout left what appears to be a vehicle there, is that in is that a police vehicle or is it makeshift? and how can you, in a police uniform with a vest, run up and down the streets of brooklyn park, no one sees you, observe you. and so what that brings to mind to me, was he operating alone? was this person operating alone? that is the bigger question for me here, because this clearly took a lot of planning on this particular day. at this particular time. these are questions yet to be answered. but back to your original point is that across this country, we need to be taking all the necessary precautions because we don't know who's out there, whether this is a lone actor, or whether

there's others that may be giving him support. and that's what is very troublesome and bothersome at this point. >> yeah, we definitely don't know that. i will say the minneapolis state police and the and the minneapolis government have been minnesota government have been sorry, the minnesota state police, the minnesota government have been good at communicating what they know. but there's some things in an active investigation they can't tell us. however, the eyes and ears of the of the community around minneapolis and minnesota generally are going to be very important in apprehending the suspect. we're going to take a suspect. we're going to take a quick break. we'll be prilosec knows, for a fire... one fire extinguisher beats 10 buckets of water, and for zero heartburn 1 prilosec a day... beats taking up to 10 antacids a day. it's that simple, for 24 hour heartburn relief... one beats ten. prilosec otc. we've always been competitive. ♪♪ yeah...one of us always had to be first. - first! - first! [kids bickering] [kids bickering] hold on, guys! ♪♪

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abundance of caution, my department of public safety is recommending that people do not attend any political rallies today in minnesota until the suspect is apprehended. we also have a call from the minnesota state police to say, given the targeted shootings of state lawmakers overnight, we are asking the public to not to attend today's planned demonstrations across minnesota out of an abundance of caution. hakeem jeffries is asking for stepped up security. he's asking the house sergeant at arms and the united states capitol police to ensure the safety of our minnesota delegation and members of congress across the country. the targeting of elected officials must end now. senator, how do you feel? you're an elected official in this country. this is a very, very, very red line. >> you're absolutely. >> right, ali. >> this is a horrific event. >> it was obviously planned. so this is not one of spontaneous reaction. this is a deliberate, calculated attack, not just on these dedicated representatives in minnesota and their spouses.

it's an attack on democracy. it's an attack upon what america should be about. the peaceful discussion and debate of issues, elections decided by the number of votes, not the intermissions of people that was crooked, etcetera. so today, this is a blow against all of us, and we have to be concerned about not only a deliberate, expansive conspiracy, but just the copycat varieties of i want to do that. it would be tragic. but i think fundamentally at this moment, we just have to express our profound sympathy to the families of the those who were slain, and also those who are still and hopefully recovering. >> senator, do you do you think a lot about this these days, in this in this world of elevated

rhetoric and political polarization? do you think about your safety? >> no, not until today. frankly. you know, there. is always that possibility, but living in a community like rhode island, where we know each other almost literally that fear. but then you see an incident which is calculated, well planned, directed against specific individuals. and that type of approach can spread. so i think it's justifiable that the speaker, the hakeem jeffries, would ask for protection. and also, i think governor waltz's judgment about the dangers that should be followed. but this is a new chapter. i can, in my experience in political life, i, i can't conceive of a such a

calculated, deliberate attack against and politically motivated which must be stressed on an individual. and that's again an unfortunate occurrence today, and also a foreboding omen of what might come, i hope not. >> yeah. i mean, we had we had two attempted attacks on, on president trump, but we actually haven't had a political assassination in this country for some time. it's a very, very rare thing to happen, thankfully. but it is one of those things that once you cross over into it, you do. you start to exist in a realm in which that sort of thing is possible. how do we, in a polarized country, sort of just make sure everybody understands that it doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter who the victim of, of the attempted assassination or assassination is. it's just not a place we go. there are just lines we need to stop at. we i think we've all believe that we've crossed many lines in terms of our discourse, but this can't be one of them.

>> no, you're absolutely right. and it has to start with the president coming forward and not just casually dismissing this as a wrong, but emphatically declaring that this will not be tolerated, and also putting into works and words the principle which is fundamental to our country, that we are a nation of laws. we respect the laws. we're a nation of peaceful protest. we respect that. we don't try to suppress it, but we respect it. and this resort to violence. these signals to groups of violent individuals, you know, wink, wink. it's okay. can't go on. it has to be emphatic. and all of us have to make that message clear to the public. but the president has to go out of his way, i think, because again,

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>> joining me now is doctor joanne freeman, an award winning historian and professor of history and american studies at yale university. she is an expert on political violence, which it does appear that we're seeing today. professor, good to have you on the show. thank you for joining us. one of the things i've been talking to a number of folks from the fbi about is the question that exists about motive, which we do not know at the moment. maybe the police do, but they haven't shared it with us. but the question is whether these attacks and the killings this morning and the shootings were based on a grievance or an ideology, and they seem to be tied to politics because the people on the manifesto, the manifesto, the list, seem to be elected officials or government officials. but what's that difference mean? the distinction between a grievance and an ideology and political violence? >> well, i think there's. >> a third option here. >> so. >> you know, a grievance, meaning that there's obviously some. >> according to the thinking of the shooter, some personal. reason why he would have for

doing this ideology, i suppose, meaning that this has something to do with republican views of some kind. but i think the bigger point here is this is an attack. when you attack a legislator. and this is true throughout american history, when you attack a legislator, a representative of the people, you're attacking democracy. so it's in that sense, bigger than ideology. it's an attack by people who, by doing this sort of action, are saying that they know they do not have power within the democratic process, that they know that they are not in the majority. and these kinds of actions, these kinds of desperate, really ultimately cowardly actions are actions taken when you know that you do not have the power by legitimate means to get what you want. >> it is remarkably rare. but when we look back, i've got a pile of papers in front of me, starting with abraham lincoln,

about political assassinations in america. they're they're quite rare. but even in the last few, the most recent in i think harvey milk was one of the more recent ones. in 1978, there was a new york city councilor who was killed. more recently than that, in 1978, leo ryan was shot in jonestown. the in a few of these cases, it the motivations seem fairly narrow. they're not they're not big broad political motivations, but they still have the same effect on the psyche to the public psyche. an elected official getting shot does feel like crossing a line that americans do not wish to cross, regardless of their political affiliation. >> oh, absolutely. i absolutely agree with you. is that no american of any kind, regardless of their political affiliation, should support this kind of action because it's a direct violation of everything that we stand for as a democratic republic. we are about process. that is what our government is

about. that is what our constitution is grounded on, and that is a free and fair process of governance and contests in which there are winners and losers, and whoever loses can try again the next contest to get power back. so yeah, i do believe that this is a red line being crossed. and i think in the context of things that are going on right now, even just looking at what just happened to senator padilla, you know, that's another kind of an attack on the democratic process in that sense, an attack on an assault of a senator. you could link also some of the things that have been unfolding in los angeles, the context of what's going on right now, in addition to the horrible nature of an assassination, generally within the broader context of this moment, what we're seeing again and again and again is a blatant disrespect for really one of the things that americans should hold most dear, and that is democracy. >> joanne, thank you for joining us. professor joanne freeman of yale university is an expert on

political violence. joining me, by the way, the other story before this all happened, the story we were going to be covering all morning was these protests that are going on, scheduled for more than 2000 towns and cities across the country, some of them very small, but ultimately, perhaps more than a million people coming out. but this much of this centers around everything that's been going on in los angeles. david noriega and i spent a lot of time together last sunday night on tv with the unrest in los angeles and the police and national guard response to it. david's joining us now from the site of one of the no kings protests in los angeles. david, what's the situation where you are? >> well, ali. since we. spoke last sunday, i've been out every single night here. walk with me so i can show you a little bit what's happening. i've been out here every single night outside the federal building, and i can tell you that the crowd that we see out here right now in front of los angeles city hall is already substantially larger than the crowds that we were seeing in the afternoons and evenings on weekdays throughout the course of the week. so the

crowds we saw during the week were the really committed protesters, right? they're sort of professional, ideologically motivated, engaged activists or what? you know, what i think is kind of the most important and interesting part of this burgeoning protest movement. people who feel they have skin in the game, people who have something personal at stake with these ice raids and with the ice raids specifically, which primarily means children of immigrants, which, by the way, ali, an estimated 25% of the entire population of l.a. county is first generation immigrants, children of immigrants. i've already seen many of them today. those are the really the people who are at the core of this movement. many of them have never been out to any kind of protest before, but they feel like they have something at stake. and the sentiment i keep hearing is they're out here for their parents, their undocumented parents, who cannot be out here because they're too afraid to even go to work or take their kids to school. but today we have a much larger cross-section of the population. we have veterans, we have boy scouts. we have, you know, people of every conceivable race, age, occupation. and they're all already gathering

here outside of la city hall. mind you, many hours before this protest is said to peak, we will see these numbers grow dramatically throughout the course of the day. as we get into the afternoon and the evening, i expect we're going to be seeing many thousands of people, if not potentially hundreds of thousands, which are, you know, the numbers that we see in some of the largest mobilizations we've seen in the city over the years. we're seeing two kind of issues. two movements coalesce, right? the no kings protests, which was set to happen today anyway, largely in response to the military parade in washington, dc, and has been really dramatically supercharged by this organic response by this heavily immigrant community to these indiscriminate, heavily militarized ice raids that we've seen in southern california over the last week. today, just this morning, i've already spoken to ten or so people this morning, again, many children of immigrants. i did speak to one person that stuck with me, who's the mother of a trans youth, a one of her children is trans. in their 20s. they feel personally threatened by what's happening.

they were visibly emotional when i spoke to them. they've never been to a protest before. those are the kinds of people that i'm encountering today. and again, it's early, right? i want to stress that it's this is already the environment that you're seeing, and we're hours away from the peak of what we're expecting to see today. ali. >> right. i suspect we're going to see record numbers in these protests across the country. david, thanks. we'll stay close to you today. david noriega, for us doing yeoman's work in los angeles, as he's been doing all week. we're going to take a week. we're going to take a quick break. our cov [♪♪] tired of struggling with impossible messes in your tub and shower? some cleaning sprays only target the top layer of grime, making it difficult to remove built-up layers. switch to mr. clean foaming bath magic eraser. simply add water to activate. magic eraser has the cleaning power of dawn and the scrubbing power of an eraser; to effortlessly cut through 100% of the built-up soap scum and grime that some sprays leave behind. and because it cleans so well, you can replace multiple cleaning products. manual? switch to mr. clean foaming bath magic eraser.

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>> is the worst nightmare. >> for so. >> many people who live here. >> i'm just trying to understand. >> what is the. >> national guard. >> going. >> to. >> do above and. >> beyond what we saw on the streets? do you think that there's a way out of this? where does this go from here? what happened? >> he needs to stand down, president. >> united states needs to stand down. >> president trump. has placed the national guard in between people that want to protest for the rights of migrants. and essentially, this building, the senior senator of the state of california was taken to the ground. are you physically hurt, senator padilla? >> joining me now from philadelphia is nbc news correspondent erin mclaughlin. philadelphia is home to what is expected to be one of the bigger protests in the country. one of the no protests. aaron, what have you got? >> jane's mom said hi. >> yeah. that's right. ali. >> this is. >> considered organizers. >> tell me to be a flagship protest. the city of philadelphia, chosen for its. >> historic nature, as well as the fact they feel like they

have strong grassroots support in this city that certainly on display right now here in philadelphia. thousands have taken to the streets participating in a march towards the museum of art, including 81 year old dennis brun. now, dennis left his senior citizen home with five of his closest friends to participate in this march. dennis, why are you protesting today? >> i think most of. >> us were upset about. >> everything he's doing, but we a lot of it is concern about. >> the next generation. >> kids and grandkids who are facing if this continues. >> they're facing. >> a kind of dictatorship. facing the destruction. >> of. science and. >> the. >> destruction of the department of. >> education. >> the hunger. >> and deaths. >> that our country. >> is occurring by the

destruction. >> of aid. >> all these. >> things are a great concern. >> was there a specific event that brought you here today? was there something specific? >> well, i think. the last couple. >> of weeks with the. >> very widespread. >> raids on. >> people that they're. >> not quite. >> sure are. >> here illegally. >> or not. >> i think many of us watched the video of senator padilla being dragged down and out and so forth. we're just seeing many alarming steps toward some kind of dictatorship on his part. and that's why i'm here, why others. >> are here, and why what do you hope this march achieves today? >> i think the. >> i hope that. >> there's so many here. and in the 2000 other places that we think same thing is happening, that it will put some courage in

some of the republican officials who so far are silent and going along with every bad move he's making. >> senator, thank you so much for speaking with us. ali, back to you. >> erin mclaughlin for us in philadelphia. this is a large protest there. it's almost 1:00. there are probably 2000 of these protests around the country. we're going to keep on covering them. you're looking this is an aerial view of some of the crowds in philadelphia. but we've got these all over the country. some of them haven't even started yet. people are just gathering. we are we also have this military parade in washington, d.c. this afternoon, although they are expecting some bad weather for that. and of course, the major story that we've been covering today is the killing of a minnesota area minneapolis state legislature legislator and the shooting of another state legislator and his wife. so police are looking for that. they've asked in minnesota for the no kings rallies to be

stopped for the day. so in minnesota, there aren't going to be these rallies. but elsewhere around the country there are, like i said, 2000 of them, many outside the country as well, about 50 planned for outside the united states. the rallies are otherwise going on as planned. however, hakeem jeffries has asked for has asked the capitol police and d.c. metro police for protection for members of congress who are around the country, particularly in minnesota, but from other members of congress because of an elevated threat. there is still a manhunt going on in minnesota for the assassin. he was apparently wearing a police uniform, driving a police car, or at least something that looked like a police car. whether he had designed it himself. he had a badge, he had a uniform. but that is going on simultaneously with these protests. initially, two of them had been canceled in the minneapolis area, but now minnesota governor tim walz and the state police have asked all

minnesota that all the protests in minnesota be canceled. however, the rest of the world, the rest of the country, you're seeing these this is miami you're looking at right now. you can see lots of people gathered. and again, these are these are still they're still developing. a lot of these people are still showing up. we're looking at philadelphia now once again, i think aaron mclaughlin was in this shot just a moment ago. this is philadelphia. we were just in los angeles where a very large crowd is gathering. it's not even 10:00 in the morning in los angeles in a very large crowd is gathering there. these are all peaceful protests at this point. there's been no no violence whatsoever at any of them. but there is just a lot of people very angry, not just about what's going on under this administration, but what has particularly been going on with respect to deportations and the cruelty, really, about immigration in this country. this is a picture of los angeles where we just spoke to david noriega. very large crowd again, an entirely peaceful crowd gathered outside of city hall in

los angeles, a much broader crowd than we've seen in many of these cities. this isn't just people protesting immigration and deportation, but protesting all of the things that they think are unjust and without due process that have been going on in the trump administration. we, of course, will continue to cover these protests for you all day. plus, this parade that's going to be happening on the 20 250th anniversary of the united states army. that does it for me. stay where you are. alex witt picks up our coverage after a quick break. we'll stay on this all day. >> dog made. >> a bad. >> oh. >> there's a good way to handle it. >> poof! >> odor on the pets. there's a poof for that, too. housebound pets come home to no mess and happiness because there's a poop for that stinky washables. ooh, there's even a poop for that. see, there's a poop for every problem. get poop at walmart. if

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tale of two spectacles. >> first, from city to city, town to town, crowds large. and small, echoing. discontent with this current administration, its direction. >> and more specifically. >> the sitting president. rallies and marches held. >> under. >> the banner of no kings. at the same time in the nation's. >> capital. >> preparations and. >> anticipation of an unprecedented. show of force. >> of military might. a controversial. parade marking 250 years of. >> the u.s. army, an. >> event commissioned and touted by president trump. these events, the crosscurrents of the day and our times. meanwhile, the day's other big breaking news a massive manhunt in minnesota after the targeted shooting of two elected officials. a very good day to all of you from msnbc world he