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>> then the latest. >> on the. manhunt in minnesota for the gunman who killed a state representative and her husband. >> and what officials. >> are calling. >> a politically motivated assassination. >> and after a tumultuous day, house. >> democratic leader hakeem. jeffries joins us live to discuss where we go from here and whether this is a defining. moment for. >> american democracy. so grab. >> your coffee. >> and settle in. welcome to the weekend. >> welcome to the weekend. i'm eugene daniels, along. >> with jonathan capehart. >> and elise jordan. it's been a dramatic. >> 24 hours. >> in america. >> in a moment, we'll have. >> the latest on. >> the massive. >> manhunt for the gunman who shot and killed minnesota. state representative melissa hortman and her husband in their brooklyn. park home. minnesota governor. >> tim walz is. >> calling it a, quote, politically. motivated assassination. but first, we begin with the split screen
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that. >> unfolded on live television last night. tanks rolled down constitution. avenue in washington, d.c, in a military. parade ostensibly. >> meant to honor. >> the army's. >> 250th anniversary. >> an event that happened. to also fall on president trump's 79th birthday. >> with the price tag of $45 million, trump. reveled in the spectacle. >> and touted america's. >> military might. but just hours earlier, another one of our country's strengths was on display the constitutional. >> right to. >> protest. millions of people across big cities. >> small towns. >> took to the streets to march against the trump administration and. >> to declare that. >> america is no place for kings. >> i'm worried for my kids, my trans child, and everybody else like them. and it's just terrifying. the hate and afraid of all the hate. >> we came together today.
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>> to voice our stern opposition to. >> the policies. >> the racist. >> and fascist. >> reactionary policies. >> of the trump administration who is trying. >> to take this country. >> towards a dictatorship. >> if you know. >> anything. >> about history, the history of hitler's. >> rise and. >> taking over a democracy. >> in. >> the weimar republic, he's following the very same ship. >> you see the same patterns. >> yes, exactly. >> joining us now. >> reuters white house correspondent jeff mason and retired u.s. army brigadier general. >> steve anderson. brigadier general, i want. >> to start with you. >> as the. >> military man at the table. >> your thoughts. >> on on what you. >> saw yesterday in washington, d.c? >> well, first of all, i'm. >> very proud of the. >> united states army. >> they did a magnificent job yesterday. i mean, they executed the mission, conducting this parade absolutely brilliantly and flawlessly. and as. i knew. they would. and they always do. having said that, it was a colossal waste of time, effort and money we don't need. that's
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not who we are. we don't do these kind of things. we don't. we don't march down the streets like that. we prove ourselves and our, our our value as an army, our strength as an army through our actions, not parades. that's something that dictators do. and i think the money that was spent, i mean, it's colossal when you think about it, $45 million is what the white house admits to. but this town was shut down for three days. it's still shut down out there. you can't get across the 14th street bridge, for instance, and you shut down the airport for 3.5 hours. you know, the tens of millions of dollars of inconveniences that. were created. the town uber drivers are complaining, you know, the hotels have been shut down. i mean, you can't get around. and so there's a tremendous cost associated with that. we're going to have to fix all the roads. by the way. >> $16 million of the 45. >> absolutely. >> for the roads. >> absolutely. >> so i mean, it was incredible thing. and think about what we could do with that money if we had it instead. i mean, the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines out there, they need support. donald trump.
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>> already. >> stole $1 billion from milcon for military construction for the for the southern border. i mean, so there's barracks that are not being renovated. there's child care centers that are not being built. there are perks that that soldiers and families and their families deserve. they're not going to be able to get because donald trump has stolen this money, essentially taken it and used it under priority. >> so i think. that it was what happened. >> yesterday, although a wonderful to watch and behold and a great to see soldiers do. well. it was a it was a colossal waste of time, money and effort. >> and so speaking. of. you know, you. >> know, something to behold. >> and watch jeff. >> you were there. you were. >> you were on the ground. >> tell us not only. >> what you. >> saw. but the. >> people you. >> talked to. >> yeah. >> while while reporting. >> why were they there? >> what did you hear? >> so the people. >> i. >> talked to. >> gave an. alternative view. i spoke to people who came from all over the country and came in large part because they support president trump. they felt like having the parade was the right
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thing to do was a good thing to do. a couple of them who i spoke to, i posed the question that the general was raising, which is that critics believe this is a symbol of autocracy and veering towards dictatorship. and their response to that was, no, it's not. britain and france and other democracies have held parades like this. why don't we do that too? so they felt that it was that it was that was not a view that they shared. and they they came out because they felt that it was a sign of patriotism and a sign of strength. >> there was. >> an energy. >> at the rally. >> that didn't. >> seem super political. >> correct me. >> if i'm wrong. >> just from walking around d.c, it wasn't. >> everyone wasn't wearing. >> maga hats. >> it was more. >> american flags. >> it seemed a little. >> more muted. >> than other. more political. >> overtly political. >> displays we've seen. >> the only. >> thing i would disagree with there is. >> i saw. >> a lot of maga. >> hats. >> but down on. >> the mall. >> yeah. >> okay, okay. >> a. >> maga hats.
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>> but i. >> wouldn't disagree with your characterization that it didn't feel super political. i was on that area or in that. area on january 6th as well, six years before ish, and. that the energy that day was entirely different. yesterday was certainly calmer. it was, i think, more. >> about patriotism for these. people than it was about trump. >> and almost. >> a. >> more touristy energy, too. >> there was a touristy energy as well, for sure. >> and let's go. let's go to the. >> energy at. >> the rallies across. >> the country, because. >> this is what i think is the interesting contrast. >> the crowd. >> sizes, and it's. so many different locations. >> around the country. let's just show some of that footage to get a sense. >> of the scope. >> of. >> the protest. >> and as a matter of fact, let's show jamie raskin. >> at. >> the no. king's protest in. philadelphia with the where he says, we are not your subjects. you are not. >> our king, and we are not your subjects. >> we will never.
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>> be your subjects. all of us born here on this land are citizens, and your executive order is nothing but bad graffiti on the constitution. and we're going to wash it off today. >> you know. >> he said that he was. >> on our. >> show yesterday. >> yes, yes, he was. >> testing. >> testing his testing his work there. i was. >> texting with. >> some of the folks at indivisible, and they say their their estimate at this point, their conservative estimate is 5 million people participating in these more than 2000 protests around the country. you were in alexandria and spoke at that protest, that rally. >> talk about what you won, what you said, and. more importantly, what you. >> heard from the people that were there. why were they. >> out there? well, they were there because they supported. >> the rally, you know, and they want to essentially stand up to what donald trump is trying to do. i mean, he's trying to take down the judiciary, trying to take down the military, of which the parade was an example of. he's using everything as a political prop. he's trying to essentially build some kind of autocracy in this country. and
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so there was a lot of energy in alexandria and probably, i don't know, five, six, 8000 people were there, crowded around one small little microphone and a speaker. and it was it was incredible. it was electric. and i think that that shows that there's a lot of people out there. i mean, 5 million people that that showed up at rallies. i that might be a stretch. but even if it wasn't that number, you had incredible energy, incredible power and incredible anger at what's going on in washington, dc right now. and it certainly manifested itself in these rallies yesterday. >> well. >> speaking of. >> speaking of anger. >> the actor mark. >> ruffalo spoke. >> at the rally. >> in new. >> york city. >> let's listen. >> to what he had. >> to say. as we see, our democracy. >> is in real trouble. >> we see. a president who has made. >> himself a king and dictator. >> this is only the beginning. >> this is an awakening of democracy. it's a. >> reimagining of what this country. >> means. >> to. >> people. >> what it should mean.
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>> they're pointing the guns in. >> the wrong direction. >> it's not the. >> immigrants who are taking anything. >> it's not that there isn't enough. >> for. everyone in this country. >> it's that. >> there. >> a few. >> very, very. >> very. >> very wealthy, powerful people who. >> are taking too much. >> and you know. >> what's what's interesting? after listening to. >> to mark, i want to bring you back to. the folks you talked to yesterday. >> i'm wondering if. >> any of them. mentioned the no king's. >> protests or. >> did they maybe push back against this notion. that president trump. is not the things that we are hearing from the folks who were taking to the streets yesterday? >> so i didn't i didn't. >> talk to anyone who specifically referenced the no. king's rally, but i certainly talked to people who felt that anyone who wasn't or who believed that that parade, for example, was a sign of autocracy, was ignorant. that
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was one of the words that came from one of the people i spoke to in the crowd. they just they just believe that that it's a it's different. it's a different worldview. and that's kind of the takeaway that i took. >> two planets. >> they're two entirely different world. >> views of. >> what a democracy is and who we are as a country and what's important, and also who donald trump is and what he represents. >> and i don't want to i'm not going to reveal anything. >> but. >> at 9 a.m, we're going to have some new nbc. >> polling. >> and i think we're going to. see how that illuminates the images. we see what's. >> happening with the. >> political divide in. >> our country. >> yeah, yeah. >> when you talked about the people that were at the. >> rally. >> who was there, right. because i think, you know, we. >> had this fabulous woman named beverly on yesterday. >> yes. >> from kansas. >> city city. >> who we're obsessed with. and what she said was that it was people. >> that. >> were democrats, republicans, independents who they weren't just all there because they, you know, voted for kamala harris and like joe biden and they don't like donald trump is because they love the country,
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despite what the president said. was that the same feel that you had at alexandria? >> definitely the vibe i got. there weren't a lot of democrats, by the way. i'm a republican. okay. i was probably the only republican. you're burying the lead. >> yeah, yeah. >> i'm not a republican anymore. but i was, you know, a conservative republican and whatnot. but, you know, when i saw what happened on the 6th of january, i said, hey, wait a minute, something's going on here. but yeah, there was an incredible vibe yesterday. and you got you had all kinds of people that were out there. but i admit there's mostly democrat, mostly left leaning folks. and they were very, very concerned about what's going on in our country, as was i. and they came out to show that their support of what's going on, to stand up to donald trump. >> all right. >> we're going to have to. sneak in. >> a quick. >> break here. but jeff mason and brigadier. >> general steve. >> anderson are sticking. >> around to. >> break down. >> more highlights from yesterday. and later in the show, we'll be joined. >> by house. >> minority leader. >> hakeem jeffries. it's been a busy week. >> and an even busier weekend. we'll get his thoughts. >> on the politically. >> motivated assassination in minnesota, the massive day of
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peaceably. >> to assemble. >> and to. >> petition the government. >> for a redress of grievances. >> welcome back to the weekend. jeff mason. >> and brigadier general steve anderson. >> are back with us. >> jeff. i want to. >> play just. >> a little. >> bit of. >> the president's speech yesterday during his. >> not his. >> the parade for the army's 20. >> birthday yesterday. >> america stands proud and america stands free. we're the hottest country in the world right now. and our country will soon be greater and stronger than ever before. so to every veteran across our land and right here in our nation's capital, including six recipients of the congressional
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medal of honor, we love you, we honor you, and we salute your noble service to our flag and to our country. >> okay, jeff. >> so what's. >> notable to me in in the president's. >> remarks is. >> the lack of. >> at least in that clip we. >> showed. >> at least in the reporting that. >> i've seen, it. >> wasn't his usual. >> partizan nasty speech. >> he also. >> seemed a little short. >> right? >> it was. >> short and. >> he seemed. >> a little. >> oh, i don't know. >> somber. >> might be. >> too strong. >> a word. >> low energy. >> might be. >> too mean a word. but what word do you would you think? >> i will. >> say, i think it contrasted with some of his remarks previously in military settings. i was with him when he went to west point and spoke to that group of cadets, and that was. >> a. >> very political speech. >> and he made another political speech.
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>> did you go. >> to fort bragg? i was not at fort bragg, but that was clearly. a very political speech in a military setting. so that yesterday's wasn't at that same level. what is interesting, though, just to give a little bit of color from being out there, is when the president came to speak, a lot of people in the crowd had. >> left him. >> so it was it was a long parade, and i think some people ended up feeling like they'd seen what they came to see after, you know, multiple tanks and multiple sets of troops. and when he came up to talk, people could still watch it on the jumbotrons. but the crowds had begun to thin out. >> let me give you one stick with you for one. >> second, because. in the. >> clips that i saw of the parade. >> you know, there's always. >> a reviewing stand. >> the president. >> was speaking. from a reviewing stand, but there. >> have been there. >> were shots that i saw where the reviewing stands looked empty, especially near near where the. >> president was. >> yes. >> can confirm. i mean, i was i
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was looking out at constitution avenue from the spot where the press was standing, and there was one reviewing stand there that was maybe half full, maybe, maybe only a third full. and i spoke to one photographer who said it really making it hard for him to get a good shot because it wasn't it wasn't staged. well, it was not dynamic enough. well, and that's not to say that there weren't a lot of people out there. there were. and there were long lines of folks who couldn't even get in because of some complications there. but the spot where you as a as a show producer, as it were, which yesterday was largely a show or at least partially a. >> show. >> maybe wasn't totally full the way. >> they should have. >> if they were planning it the way they had wanted the shots to look. >> general anderson. >> the army. >> ran some very heavily. produced interview documentary type production ahead. >> of this. >> and fox news ran it. >> in full. it almost. seemed just like. >> free advertising.
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>> for military recruitment. >> which on the one hand doesn't. >> bother me. but then. >> on the other hand, it was very uncomfortable. >> in the. >> sense of. >> just, is. >> this appropriate? >> well, we. >> are politicizing. >> the military. >> i mean, that's. >> what donald trump is trying to do. he's trying to politicize all the branches of government to all the institutions that are out there. he's trying to he doesn't give a whit about soldiers. he really doesn't. i mean, he's president bone spurs, five deferments. you know, he he doesn't understand anything about selfless service or sacrifice, you know. so it's really sad that that the soldiers have to pay homage to this man. having said that, i mean the marketing material that they put out there and yeah, good for the army. take advantage of this opportunity. get the recruitment out there. you know, get get soldiers. we need soldiers to, to make our, our army even better. and it's i think it's great. bully for them. if they took advantage of this as they should and show showcase the army for what it is the finest fighting force in the world. >> jeff. >> one question.
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>> that i have, and i'm. >> still trying. >> to do my own reporting. i'm curious. >> if you have any yourself. do we know anything about how the president himself, when looking at what he saw, and then also the. >> reporting and the. >> video and the pictures around the country. >> how he's. >> kind of taking in. >> these two sides. >> of the country, these two. >> worlds that we. >> that were on display yesterday. >> and if. >> we don't. >> have any. >> reporting, you know, this man. >> we all do. right? >> so we kind of can assume how. >> he's taking it. >> i've covered him a long time. yeah. i mean, i will use an example on that from just a couple of nights ago when he went to the kennedy center for the opening night of les mis, he was asked on the red carpet for a reaction to the fact that some cast members reportedly decided to boycott that night, and he said he didn't care. i think that's probably his attitude to the rest of the protests around the country, too. it's not. >> what he said. >> that's what he says. i think his focus would have been on that military parade yesterday. i think he cared a lot about that. that was pure donald trump to be able to see and celebrate that army parade yesterday. that said, and i hear the skepticism
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in your voice about this, you know, i don't think he likes to see dissent. i mean, we know that he doesn't like to see dissent. and so the headline that he's looking for is about the military parade and about him and about victory and about strength and not about this bubbling up opposition. and i do think lastly on that, the bubbling up opposition is a fascinating trend this week. and the question for me as a reporter is whether or not it's an inflection point, because democrats and opponents were paralyzed at the beginning of president trump's second term. and this last week shows that that paralysis may be gone. >> oh, yeah. >> there's no paralysis. i mean, you can't get millions of people. >> in all 50. >> states to take to the streets in the. face of. >> an. administration that put. >> marines on the ground, on. >> the streets. >> of an american city and be paralyzed. i think the american people have been jolted and energized. but that's just me. jeff mason, brigadier general steve anderson. >> thank you both very much. >> for. coming to.
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♪ (man) right on time! (vo) stay in the know. from your dock... to their door. underway. >> for the. suspected gunman in. >> yesterday's deadly shooting of two. >> minnesota state. lawmakers in what minnesota governor tim walz has called a. >> quote, politically motivated assassination. >> minnesota state representative. melissa hortman and her husband, mark, were shot and. killed at their home in brooklyn park in the early hours of saturday morning. state senator. >> john hoffman. >> and his wife, yvette. >> were. >> also shot and severely injured. both are still hospitalized. authorities identified the suspect as 57 year old vance. boelter of minnesota. the fbi is offering a $50,000. >> reward for information. >> minnesota state. patrol also.
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>> shared a photo of. >> fliers you. >> see. there on the screen. it said were found inside the. >> suspect's vehicle with. >> the writing. >> no kings. >> but it's unclear if. >> they're. >> connected to. >> the protests. >> organized under. >> that slogan. joining us now is nbc news correspondent adrian broaddus, who is on the ground in minnesota. adrian. what is. >> the. >> latest and what do we know about the suspect? >> hey there. jonathan, i'll start with your first question regarding the latest. we're now entering, as you mentioned, day two of the search for this suspect. police are searching for this man, vance luther bulter. it's been over 24 hours since this all unfolded. they do have images that they're working from there. you're looking at that surveillance video. as you know, he is accused of killing the former democratic house speaker and state representativ, melissa hortman, and her husband, mark. we are outside of
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the state capitol. if you come back to us, you can see that there is a small memorial growing in her honor for state rep hortman. this is a place that was like a second home to her, and many people here today are still on edge. i can tell you, jonathan, that there is a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of this suspect, who investigators say was impersonating a police officer. that's how he was able to gain access to the victims. that's how he was able to gain their trust. but he didn't only shoot and kill the state rep and her husband. in another incident, he shot the state senator, john hoffman, and his wife. they're still in the hospital recovering. we've learned that from a nephew. one of the bullets was lodged near or in the chest, i should say, of senator hoffman near his heart. but neither of them suffered any major damage to
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their organs, to any vital organs. serious damage, obviously, but they're still in the hospital recovering this morning. jonathan. >> adrienne. >> what is the. >> sense within the community. >> of fear with. >> this. >> active manhunt going on? and what. >> impact did it. >> have on some of. >> the protests that. >> were planned. >> for yesterday? >> you know, you talk about fear and impact. some people canceled their plans. others still showed up for those demonstrations that not only happened here in minnesota, but as we saw across the country. and those who decided to go said they wanted to go and speak out and let their voices be heard. they did not want what happened to silence them. i do want to underscore i spoke with a gentleman by the name of ron harris. he is an executive committee person with the democratic national convention. and just hours before the shooting, he was with all four of the victims. and he said when
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he said goodbye to them, he didn't think that would be the last time that he spoke to them. we've also learned based on things that were left behind. a source close to this investigation tells nbc news the suspect had a list of other people he wanted to target. and when i spoke with harris, he said he's talked to some of the people who were on that list. take a listen. >> everybody is devastated. everybody is grieving. everybody is still in shock. >> there's a handful of people. >> who are. >> like, look, we have elections next year. we're not sure if we want to run again. is it worth it? is it worth putting myself through this? is it worth putting my family through it? other folks are doubling down with their resolve. >> and that was ron harris that you just heard from there. so there's a lot of anxiety, as you can imagine. i do want to say again that the hoffman's are in the hospital this morning. we learned from a nephew that yvette hoffman threw herself on
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top of their older daughter, who was at the home to shield her from gunfire. the search continues. guys. >> adrienne. >> thank you very much. coming to us from. >> saint paul, minnesota. let's bring in retired fbi agent rob damico. >> and former u.s. attorney in michigan, barbara mcquade. >> she's also an msnbc. >> legal analyst. rob, i'll start with you. that last. detail that we just heard. >> from adrienne. that mrs. hoffman. >> threw. her body. >> on top of her child to save her child. i'm trying to understand. just given the information. you were all over our air all day yesterday. >> given all. >> the information that you have, do you have a sense of how this took place? did he knock on the. >> the alleged suspect? >> he knocked on the door. they come to the door and he opened fire. or did they think he was a cop because he was dressed like one? he they let him in and then
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he murdered them deep inside their homes. >> it's odd because that's why i thought would happen. but when you look at the shots into the front door. right. because we said that was from his house, that looked like they weren't opening the door to me. like, why would he shoot from outside if they were letting him in? so he may have tried that and they might have said, who are you with again? you know. and then he shot through the door, got in and then murdered him. but again, he had this whole idea in his head. he rehearsed it in his head over and over. and i think that may have thrown him off. on how he then conducted his actions inside the house. >> barbara, adrian just said, you know, it's 20. remind us it's been 24. >> hours since. >> this all happened in these kinds of investigations. >> and more. >> importantly, these kinds of manhunts. how important. >> is speed. >> for the investigators? >> well, it's. >> essential because of course, the more time goes by, the farther. >> he can. >> fan out. and so it's more
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difficult to confine the search to a particular area. however, when there is the passage. >> of time. >> you can also. >> take the presumption. >> that it's possible he has. >> fled the state. >> that allows state officials to call in. >> federal officials. >> under the authority known as unlawful flight to. >> avoid. >> prosecution. and that brings with it federal. >> resources. >> the us marshal. >> services and their fugitive apprehension team. the ability. >> to get warrants for. >> electronic surveillance. >> and so it becomes a national manhunt. >> and my. >> guess. is that's. >> happening. >> now because of this passage of time. >> rob. >> do. >> you think. that this fits the. definition of domestic terrorism? >> i do, because you're trying to influence people or coerce them through violence or the threat of violence for political reasons, from what it's pointing to is, like all the people on the list were some type of pro-abortion, and he had some type of anti-abortion. that's only assumed right now based on that manifest. but i think it defines it that though only like
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certain states have a domestic terrorism law, the federal government doesn't yet. i mean, there's been arguments back and forth for a number of years that the federal side also needs a domestic terrorism law. >> do you think we're seeing. >> a pattern. >> of lone. wolf actors. as we've seen, you know. the different people. >> this year, the. >> violent assassin. >> who. >> tried to take. >> out trump. then we had. >> the car bomber. >> out in california. >> the pronatalist, activist, anarchist. >> what do you. make of this. >> new radicalization. of it seems like. single men. >> it's actually harder to investigate because when we're looking at al qaeda, there was like a corporate structure. so when you got a threat stream, you kind of knew where they were in the planning and execution. isis brought it to where they wanted sole actors. and when you're only think about it in your own head, is really hard to even figure out beforehand. and then when it happens, hey. >> barbara. >> from what i understand, you were a terrorism prosecutor, so pick up on on this conversation
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that elise and rob are having. >> yeah. >> i think this. >> idea of domestic terrorism. is right on. there is no federal crime of terrorism, but there are state terrorism charges. you know, federal terrorism. >> is confined. to international terrorism when. somebody transcends. national boundaries. and i think the concern is a protection of. >> civil liberties. >> that when people. >> are engaging in political. >> activity, we want to take a hands. >> off approach. >> however. >> there have. >> been advocates in the past that say when there is an. assassination of a public official. even if they are a state official, that ought to qualify as domestic terrorism. we have. >> seen a trend across this country, some of those. incidents we've just ticked off. >> but let's also not. forget the. >> arson at governor shapiro's. >> home in pennsylvania. and the attack. >> on the two jewish staffers outside.
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>> the israeli. >> event earlier. >> this year. and so i think that we are seeing an. >> increase in. >> domestic terrorism. >> and we ought to reconsider, at least in certain. >> situations, mass. >> shootings, car rammings. >> and other things. >> because what that allows is the ability of the fbi to begin investigating earlier in a proactive way. >> in an effort to disrupt those attacks before they occur. >> rob, one question that i have is, you know, we have this list. >> of. >> dozens of names and. >> of other. >> potential targets. we know everyone that's on that list, but we have a source. an nbc. >> source who had seen. >> it, said. it includes some prominent people in minnesota who advocate for reproductive rights, as well as some lawmakers who have been outspoken about their stance in favor of reproductive rights. how does. >> that. >> help investigators? as you're looking for this man that there seems to be maybe possibly a through line with the folks on this. >> but i think it definitely like shows where his targets are, who he's thinking about doing. i think some of it, if they did the search warrant, they're going to look at his
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google history. they're going to try to get electronically to see where he was looking for. he's had time to plan this. the fact that he wore a mask tells me that he did not want to get recognized. he got recognized because of the actions of the police officers, and that he really probably had multiple targets lined up. how concerned. >> should the. people on that list be for their safety since. he's still at large? would he be? would he be fool enough to try to keep going down that list? >> he he would. >> but he said he may die like he texted that to his friends. so he may not have wanted to die in the first one by wearing a mask. but he's planning something, so i think he's very dangerous. and i would have police in houses with those people. i wouldn't just put a car in the driveway because i think he could get around that. i think it's a very serious threat. >> wow, rob damico, thank you so. >> much. >> barbara mcquade. thank you so much. we have to sneak in a quick break here, but. >> we will be. >> back with more on the politically motivated.
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to kind of start us off here. ken martin, the. >> chair of the dnc. >> who also was the chair of the democratic. >> party in minnesota. >> what he had to say last night. >> two of my friends, two of my close, close friends were murdered. murdered today. two of my other friends were attempted. they attempted to murder them. and if it wasn't for lawmakers doing their jobs in minnesota, i don't know how many more countless friends of mine in the minnesota legislature would have been targeted today. this is wrong. we have to call it out for what it is. and you know what? there is no doubt that that has been fomented by the far right in this country and extremism and violent rhetoric that exists in the far reaches of the internet that we have allowed to seep into into this country, as it's now commonplace to just go out and assassinate people that you disagree with. well, it's and i'm just telling you right now, none of this should happen in this country. let's solve our differences
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through the ballot box. let's solve our differences by finding common ground. no one should be going out there and assassinating people they disagree with. >> now, if you know ken martin, you know that that you know the fiery ness that we just saw, that emotional. that's not who he usually is. >> he's mild. >> mannered, very mild mannered. i mean, i share a lot of and i think we all probably do. yeah. i am concerned that we have gone too far. i feel like the kind of trying to unring the bell as a country. where political assassinations, political assassination attempts, trying to kidnap governors, planning to do those kinds of things, that it is become a part of our political process. and i don't know how you pull that back. well, it's difficult to pull it back when, you know, one of the people engaging in this kind of rhetoric is the president of the united states. i mean, he almost got killed, too. well, right. but we ran yesterday on the show a montage of his, you know. invoking violent rhetoric during the during both of his
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campaigns. i mean, ken, ken martin, that kind of fire, that kind of anger is something that i think a lot of democrats have been looking for from people, from from leaders. but it's unfortunate that, you know, it comes after the assassination of one state lawmaker. another one is hanging on by a thread. and, you know, i went to college in minnesota. i feel like i'm looking at family. and it's just it's too much. >> it's petrifying. >> the political violence. >> and the rise of it and. how it is. >> almost commonplace. >> that. >> these horrific. >> tragic incidents are. >> happening around the country. >> and we have to get a grip on ourselves and the dehumanization of. >> our political enemies has. >> been. >> taken so far. >> in some corners, some dark. >> reaches of the internet, and it has. >> to. >> be dialed back. >> and so i. >> we're going to come. back
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thank you for nothing. you useless reptile. >> for a third day. israel and. >> iran are trading fierce attacks. israeli military. officials say that israel. >> struck 80 targets. >> in. >> iran overnight, including. >> energy facilities and an oil. >> depot in. >> tehran. >> and iran unleashed. >> a deadly. >> barrage on israel that officials. say killed. at least. eight people. >> iran has. >> threatened to target. >> american. >> british and. >> french military bases. >> that help. >> block the country's retaliatory. strikes against israel. >> but president trump. >> posted on truth. >> social this. >> morning the u.s. >> had nothing. >> to do with. >> the latest. >> attacks on iran. >> he also. >> threatened that. >> if iran. attacks the. >> u.s, quote. >> the full strength and. >> might of the u.s. >> armed forces will come down on the country at levels never
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seen before. joining us. >> now to discuss. >> is former cia director john brennan. >> he is an. >> msnbc senior. national security and intelligence analyst. director brennan. >> let's just. >> start with what. >> do we make of donald trump's. mixed messaging on. this one day? he is. >> all in. >> today he's disavowing it. >> what's the message. >> we're sending? >> well, i think the trump administration is. trying to walk a fine line. >> between supporting. >> israel in its efforts. >> to degrade iran's nuclear capability, but at the. >> same time not. >> put a target on u.s. interests in the middle. >> east so that. >> iran does not retaliate against us. which is. why i. >> think he's. >> being very careful in terms of what he says. and the claim is that we had nothing to do with the attack. >> but i know that the. >> united states. >> as well as other. >> countries, are helping. >> israel to try to defend. >> itself against. this this. missile barrage that's coming from iran. and the.
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>> target set on both sides. >> seems to be expanding. so unfortunately, i don't think this. >> conflict is yet over. >> director brennan, you know what this is kind of making me think of is how every president. >> for a really. >> long time has had issues. >> dealing with netanyahu. and. >> you know, you have president trump just this week, 24 hours before the attack, started, saying in front of cameras that they shouldn't go in, that he didn't want israel. >> to go in. >> right. we had planned talks with iran. >> steve witkoff. >> who was going to talk about the nuclear deal this. >> weekend. >> and israel still went in. it makes me think of when bill clinton. >> remarked, according to a book, who. >> the who the f is the superpower here? after dealing with netanyahu? what? how can this president or any president kind of move past that? because that they seem to be getting, i guess, as the kids would say, played over and over and over again by netanyahu, outflanked.
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>> well, i think the trump administration was. >> genuinely interested in trying to see whether or not there could be some type of deal forged with iran on the nuclear program. >> which. >> is why those. >> talks. >> were. >> underway in oman. >> but at the same time, the trump. >> administration was not willing to say no to netanyahu, who was determined to try to destroy as much of that nuclear program as possible. u.s. presidents, from bill clinton to george bush to barack obama and. >> biden. >> they all resisted the entreaties from bibi netanyahu to support israeli strikes against the iranian nuclear program. but clearly, the trump administration did not use its weight and its might until netanyahu not to do it. so this is something. >> that. >> is a preemptive war. and the part of netanyahu he has long wanted to try to destroy as much of the iran nuclear program as possible. but i think, as the reports indicate, although he has damaged it, maybe set back the program, he is not able to destroy the nuclear program
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because a lot of it is underground at fordow. and the israelis don't have the unilateral capability to go down, you know, miles into the ground and destroy the. centrifuges and uranium enrichment capabilities. >> that exist underground. >> director brennan, one of the things that concerns a lot of analysts about what's happening about this preemptive war that you're talking about is that it is opened up. and i'm going to quote here, birx, a senior research fellow at the. royal united services institute, a british defense and security think tank. he says, and i'm quoting here, pandora's box has been cast wide open. she said what comes next may define the regional security order for years to come. do you share that assessment? >> well, certainly. >> has the potential to. escalate far beyond what we've seen so far. and it could involve neighboring states and even u.s. interests in the area, which really could redefine. then the status of the middle east. but i do not think the
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iranians want this to expand beyond the current tit for tat strikes that are taking place, because later this year, in october, there is the potential for additional sanctions to be levied on iran. these were sanctions that were relieved by the previous iranian nuclear deal. but at this point. >> i think. >> the iranians are trying to get the economic relief that they need because the country's economy really is quite, quite devastating shape. so although we're going to see, i think, additional barrages of missiles and strikes, i do think that there is interest in trying to make sure that this doesn't expand beyond that. >> former cia. >> director john brennan, as always, thank you very much for coming to the weekend. >> thank you. >> and we are just getting started on a very busy news day. so grab a fresh cup of coffee and settle in, because coming up next hour on the weekend, congressman seth moulton, a former marine, joins us to talk about president trump's military
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