pacific. thanks for staying with us. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. let's get right to the breaking news. the suspect in deadly and targeted attacks against lawmakers in minnesota, now in federal custody and due in court in just hours after a two day manhunt. the suspect in the assassination of state representative melissa hortman and her husband, mark, and the shootings of state senator john hoffman and his wife, yvette, was found crawling in armed in a field for police. he now faces two counts of murder in the second degree, as well as two counts of attempted murder in the second degree, and is set to face a judge at 2:30

p.m. eastern. speaking shortly after the apprehension, minnesota governor tim walz vowed that justice would be served for both the hortman and hoffman families. to melissa and mark's family, i cannot fathom your pain and the grief that you're going through. we'll take solace in the memory and the work that melissa did, and you can rest assured that we will put every ounce of effort that the state of minnesota has to make sure that justice is served, and the individual responsible for this serves the time for the unspeakable act. >> joining us now here in the studio, nbc news law enforcement correspondent tom winter and msnbc law enforcement analyst and former secret service agent evy poumpouras. let's start in minnesota with nbc news correspondent adrienne broaddus on the scene. so, adrienne, this was a massive manhunt for about

48 hours. hundreds of law enforcement. nearly two dozen tactical teams. how did this capture go down? >> you know what, ana? this really is an example of collaboration and coordination. a local police department turned into an operation center. we're talking about nearly 200 members of law enforcement. think about it. 20 different swat teams were searching for this 57 year-old suspect. but that's not all, folks. you at home watching help! there were more than 400 tips that rolled in, and the critical tip came yesterday. that's when someone spotted that brown cowboy hat the suspect was seen wearing on surveillance video after the shooting, as well as a car that was linked to the suspect that had been abandoned, that was on the side of a highway in a rural area, really less than three miles from where the 57 year old lived. but it was the minnesota state patrol that put him in handcuffs. authorities were able to use infrared technology to

zone in on this wooded area. about an hour and a half or so away from the crime scene to find him and on, as you mentioned in a short moment later this afternoon, he will be in the courthouse behind me, facing state and federal charges for the murders of state rep melissa hortman and her husband, mark, as well as the attempted murder of state senator john hoffman and his wife. >> tom. so what are we learning about the suspect's history and any potential motive or radicalization that may have taken place? >> sure. >> so boulder is going to face federal charges. we know that for sure. the our colleague kelly o'donnell has reported that he is in fbi custody at this time. that's also been updated on the sheriff's website. and then we just received a news advisory that they're going to make that announcement at 12 p.m. eastern time. the specific charges, we don't know them yet. i would assume that based on the fact and this has probably a lot to do with the fact that the fbi

minneapolis office is the largest field office in the country by geography, not by number of agents, but by geography. and they have a robust jttf not suggesting this is going to be terrorism charges, but when you have those elements in play, they were probably already typing this complaint well before he was even arrested. and so they're able to at least charge him federally. and then at some point, they will obviously seek an indictment before a grand jury, and they can get to issues of motive then, which i think speaks to the to your question. they probably have just started to go through his phones. if they've been able to get into them, they've probably just started to be able to go through any sort of writings. they've executed a search warrant over the weekend, so there's no rush from their perspective to add any sort of necessarily a sort of motive to this. but we also don't know exactly what is in that written manifesto which authorities first talked about on saturday morning. so is there something in there that can help them with respect to motive? but again, not necessary because of the acts that have already allegedly occurred at his hands. >> so help. >> us understand who this person is. what do we know about him

and his background? >> so he's got kind of an interesting background. he he was not in law enforcement to the best of the records that we found. but he did work at a private security guard company based on what we've been able to ascertain. he also apparently was on a governor tim waltz board at some point. now, governors have all of these advisory boards. you know, occasionally they might stop by for five minutes if it's an issue that's really close to them. but a lot of people get put on these boards. it's a way to include a lot of different people in society. this happens in every state across the country. so he's on this board at some point. we know from our reporting over the weekend, kristen welker, kelly o'donnell included in this that he had a number of individuals on a written list that were not only democratic state legislators, but also state lawmakers also were people that were pro-choice or espoused pro-choice views. so he's talked about that, and then he's got some foreign travel as well, preaching and speaking out at locations in africa. so i think his full, full background

is kind of coming into focus. he is definitely not, as we've seen with some other high profile shootings, somebody who we've really had to dig to find information or have never been able to find information on. quite the opposite here. a lot of public records, a lot of public information out there about him. >> i mean, there's that picture from the time of his arrest, and we know he didn't leave the state. clearly, he was found, in fact, about an hour away from where these grisly crimes took place. he, we're told, crawled out to law enforcement. he was armed, but he didn't put up a fight. does any of that surprise you? they're not putting up a fight. >> actually surprised me, because we know that. >> he had. >> a long list of people that he was looking to take their life, and that fortunately got interrupted at the second shooting that he committed at the second house. so i'm quite surprised about that. this is also very brazen person. usually when you look at assassinations or assassination attempts, they're not typically done at the person's residence whenever you do protection. the idea was, once somebody is home, they're

safe and secure. so this is someone who actually thought to go to a home. so i was quite surprised. i really expected him to kind of, you know, either do suicide by cop or that type of thing. and he went peacefully and surrendered. the other thing that will be really important is interviewing. yes, you're going to do all that background search on him and his search history and all that stuff, but you can get a lot of information. so for him to want to live, to me that's a symbolizes. i want to tell my story and perhaps tell people why i did this. because when you see types of incidents like this, they he probably truly believes what he's doing is the right thing. that's the right thing. so, you know, in the press conference, they're like, this is an evil act. i bet if you ask him, he's not going to say it's an evil act. i'm doing what i think is right, you know, to rid whatever, you know, whatever his agenda is. >> yeah. i mean, we've seen it seems like an uptick in political violence recently and people who clearly are motivated by something that makes them

feel justified to take action. as we talk about that, the us capitol police have reported that threats against elected officials and their families in congress climbed for the second year in a row to over 9400 threats. you've served in secret service. does the federal government truly have the resources to investigate each and every one of those threats? >> since social media? this is the problem because before, if you wanted to make a threat towards someone, you would write a letter, you'd make a phone call. and so we would monitor threats that way. but now that we have social media, everybody has access to say what they want. and now you have to sit there and sift through this stuff. so a lot of times government, federal agencies, they rely on the facebooks, the instagrams, the tiktoks to help them weed this stuff out. so now you've given a voice to people who have a lot of courage or bravery or sometimes not thinking very well with mental issues, or it's not that, not mentally right. and i don't mean it more in a psychological

disorder. and so now you have to sift through all this stuff. and how do you know what is legitimate and what is not. before we would get threats somebody would say something, make a call. you'd go visit their house, you'd go talk to him and you'd try to filter out what was worth your time or not. so since social media, this is so much more prolific and even just the stuff people write, it's kind of infectious. when i was even in the car trying to come in and just see all the new stuff, i had to filter through all the hateful comments on all ends, from all people this side to this side, this side, to this side, to try to figure out, okay, what's actually news and what's all this kind of jargon that's actually escalating more and more. >> and fueling some of that disdain, that hatred. >> i would just take it a step further that, yeah, i think we've gone beyond threats. i agree with everything that evie just said, just from my reporting and analysis. but we've really moved beyond that. we have seen starting with january 6th, we've seen not one, but two attempted assassinations on a presidential candidate. now, the president of the united states, donald trump. in the last couple of months, we had an attempt on pennsylvania governor

josh shapiro's life. he was under protection at a home that was under protection. >> right. and it was the arson that happened, the pennsylvania governor's residence. >> so we have moved beyond the threat environment in this country to people actually taking action. that is a new paradigm. that is something that needs to be considered. and when you look historically and you go outside the united states at countries that where the where parts of the population believe that they could solve their political problems in life with violence, it takes generations for that to wash out. if it ever truly does, this is going to be a problem not for the next month year, but probably a lot longer. >> than the foreseeable future. unfortunately. tom winter, adrien brody, thank you all very much. and joining us now is former democratic minnesota state representative ryan winkler. he and speaker hortman served together in the state legislature and were close friends. first, i'm so sorry for your loss and to have to talk

under these circumstances. can you tell us about your friends melissa hortman and her husband, mark? >> you know, i've been. sitting here listening. >> to some of the conversation. >> about political. >> violence and extremism, and. >> it struck. >> me. >> that the hauptmanns were the exact opposite of that. melissa was not somebody who was a social media warrior trying to get attention, trying. to bring a lot of focus on herself. she was not an extremist. she believed very much in working through the institutions. we have to improve people, people's lives. and she made a huge difference in minnesota, probably the most consequential state leader we've seen in the last generation because she was dedicated, put her nose to the grindstone and just got the work done, and that this kind of radicalism or whatever is behind it, this violence harming her and her husband, killing them is absolutely heartbreaking for those of us who knew her and those of us who work so closely with her. >> it is tragic. it's just also horrific. ryan winkler, please stand by. we have a press

conference. we're learning of just getting underway with hennepin county officials speaking. now let's listen. >> i also. >> want to thank. >> the members. >> of. our office who worked all weekend with our law enforcement partners in this case, and i want to thank the medical team who provided emergency care to the hoffman's. although police have made an arrest, the investigation is ongoing, and so i'm limited in what i can share about it. on saturday, our office filed charges against mr. bolton for second degree murder and attempted murder, allowing us to obtain a nationwide arrest warrant, which would allow law enforcement across the country to arrest him. these are the highest charges we can file by complaint, and it needed to be done quickly to get the warrant out. mr. bolton was taken into state custody, and our office intends to pursue first degree murder charges against mr. bolton. we are at early stages. we will be reviewing all of the

evidence from law enforcement as it comes in and working with our law enforcement partners to develop the case. i do want people to know that, given the scale of this investigation, the review of evidence will take time. i want to assure our community and all those who are grieving that we will seek justice and accountability for the victims of all these heinous crimes. our most senior and experienced prosecutors are handling this case because this case is now an active prosecution. that is all i will say about the case itself. it is a frightening time. we are living in. political violence is prevalent, and the way we talk to and about each other has raised the temperature to unfathomable levels. we cannot continue on this way in times of tragedy, but also every day as we navigate our daily lives, we need to find ways to support one

another. as our community grieves, i encourage those out there seeking to create additional chaos to stop spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. our law enforcement partners are building a case, using facts and evidence to ensure vance boelter is held accountable. again, i want to thank everyone who helped bring this search to a resolution and again to express our grief, condolences and support to the hortman and hoffman families. >> good morning. i'm dawna wood, sheriff of hennepin county. i want to begin by expressing my deepest condolences to all those impacted by the unspeakable tragedy, especially to the families. i stand here with immense gratitude to the law enforcement agencies who responded with speed, strength, and commitment to justice and

public safety. thank you to the brooklyn park police department and the champlin police department. hennepin county is proud to have your team serving our community as we grieve with you. thank you to all the local, state, and federal agencies. hundreds of first responders came together to bring justice to an unthinkable act of violence. our mission was clear protect the public, prevent further harm, and hold the perpetrator accountable. we all shared a singular goal justice rooted in public safety. vance boelter inflicted unimaginable harm to our community saturday morning, and he did it while impersonating the very people who are trusted to protect and serve. these violent acts strike at the heart of our democracy and the safety of those who serve the public. with dedication and courage, our hearts go out to a speaker, melissa hortman and her husband, mark, their families and their loved ones. we are also grateful

senator hoffman and his wife, yvette, are expected to recover, and we will be here to support them during their long journey of healing and grief. today, the manhunt is over, but the investigation continues and more importantly, the process to healing begins. we also need to mention that we know that this. >> okay, we're going to keep monitoring this press conference, and we'll listen for any new information that may come from it. we'll dive back in if they do start sharing some new details. but i want to bring back ryan winkler, former minnesota state representative. clearly, this is an incident that has shaken your state and people around the country. we were just talking about the threats to lawmakers and an increase in political violence. as a former member of the state house, what are your bigger biggest and i guess, thoughts about that issue in this moment? >> obviously, there have to be additional measures taken to

protect security of elected officials and public officials at home, in their offices, in their places of public business. but i also think at a deeper level, we have to be willing to confront extremism and radicalism, not just on the other side. right. it's easy for one side to see radicals on the other side. we also have to address extreme language and the ways that people are dehumanizing others just because of a political disagreement. i do think that melissa hortman stood for that when she was in public office. i think that we need to understand that leadership and the tone that leaders set, whether at the national level or at the state level, contributes a great deal to what people think is acceptable or normal behavior. and we have not seen great leadership at the national level in recent years, and that is filtered, i think, all the way down to the state and local level, our our politics, our communities are coarser, more

dangerous, more radical than they have been in the past. and we need to turn the other direction. >> i just want to take a moment to highlight again the victims in this incident and the life that was lost. in particular your friend, speaker hortman. by all accounts, no matter, no matter your politics, she was an effective legislator. and you see her picture there alongside her husband who was also killed in this. we know melissa hortman was able to get through paid family leave, free school breakfast and lunch, and expansion of the child tax credit and much more. during her time as speaker, what was the driving force behind her priorities? >> melissa wanted to do the right thing for people. she really wanted to serve the public, and she felt a tremendous sense of responsibility and duty. people have often described her as being a very strong person, and she was. but it wasn't bravado. it wasn't overconfidence or arrogance. she often was insecure about choices that she had made, and wanted to check to see if she had done the right

thing. what made her strong is that she faced a lot of uncertainty herself, and she overcame it. she came forward with proposals and leadership that made a big difference for people in minnesota. and this was never, i think, the strongest point about her, that she never made it about herself. she always made it about the team, whether that was in the house democrats or the team. minnesota. right. how do we make this whole state better? that's what she was all about. she was she was pretty selfless in that regard and stood out for me. i was her number two for four years. and, you know, melissa never tried to put herself forward, put her own agenda ahead of everybody else's. >> again, such a tragedy here. melissa hortman having lost her life, her husband mark. and then, of course, there is state senator john hoffman, still fighting for his life and his wife also injured. they were shot multiple times as well. ryan winkler, thank you for taking the time to join us, and we wish you and all of the folks there in minnesota the very best in this difficult moment.

>> thank you. >> and i do want to note that we are expecting new charges related to that incident. we'll keep you updated on that. we're also, of course, monitoring the press conference that is underway right now in minnesota. meantime, to our north in canada, in any minute now, president trump is set to meet with canadian prime minister mark carney as these two leaders kick off this year's g7 summit. you may recall when the two were in the oval office earlier this year, so this will be their second meeting in two months amid heightened tensions between the two countries in the wake of president trump's trade war and his comments referring to canada as the 51st state. joining us now, nbc news white house correspondent yamiche alcindor live at that summit, the g7 summit. so what does the white house want to accomplish in this meeting with the canadian prime minister? let's start there. >> well, it's very interesting. and good afternoon to you, anna. we know that the white house has

now put out some information stating that this bilat, this bilateral meeting between president trump and the prime minister of canada, mark carney, has already begun. we're waiting to see when reporters are going to be going into that meeting, and we have lots of questions to ask them. and as you said, this is a high stakes meeting in that president trump really wants to get some trade deals out of this g7 summit. this is a meeting of the world's biggest economies. you think of japan, germany, france. so these are countries that the president wants to continue to do business with. and he's been saying over and over again, as he's been pursuing this sort of hard line tariff policy, he's also been saying that he's going to seek out deals with all of these different countries. so the president is hoping that he can announce some deals at this g7 summit. whether or not that actually happens is not clear. we also know that once we hopefully will be getting into that bilat, that will also be probably talking about the issues and conflict between israel and iran, which is another big thing that a number of countries are focused on here, because we're seeing meetings not only about the global economy, but also about

safety and security. so there's a lot on the president's plate, and he's hoping to deal with some of this. and i should also point out that the president is also going to be meeting with the presidents of ukraine and mexico. we think that's going to happen tomorrow. ana. >> okay. nbc's yamiche alcindor, please keep us posted. thank you. and coming up here on ana cabrera report, the escalating conflict between israel and iran, why president trump convinced israel not to assassinate iran's supreme leader when they had the chance. leader when they had the chance. we're back in 90s. ♪rinse it out♪ ♪every now and then i get a little bit tired♪ ♪of the stinks that just will never come out♪ downy rinse & refresh. fights odor in just one wash. guaranteed. ♪♪ david trusts prevagen for his brain and this is his story. nice to meet ya. my name is david. i've been a pharmacist for 44 years. when i have customers come in, i recommend prevagen. number one, because it's effective. does not require a prescription.

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>> we're back with breaking news. just moments ago, iran's revolutionary guard issuing a warning, telling tel aviv residents to evacuate as soon as possible. that warning, just an hour after israel's defense force ordered residents in parts of tehran to evacuate, israeli airstrikes so far taking out most of supreme leader ayatollah ali khamenei's inner circle and targeting others involved in iran's nuclear program. as nbc news learns that president trump rejected a proposal from israel calling for the assassination of iran's supreme leader, according to two u.s. officials. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel joins us now from tel aviv. richard israel has has not gone unscathed in this. where do things stand this morning? >> well, a lot of moving parts right now. the military campaign

is still ongoing. there haven't. >> been. >> any assaults on on israel in the last several hours, but there were early this morning with an iranian missile landing penetrating the israeli military defense system in haifa, which is a satellite city, just about a 20 minute drive from from tel aviv, where i am right now. and so the military operations continue. there was just an attack on the iranian television network, and actually it was quite a dramatic image. they were broadcasting live. the anchor was sitting at her at her desk, when suddenly the studio around her filled with smoke, and she had to leave the area. so the targets that israel is hitting in iran are expanding. it began on friday with the secretive operation, with israel using mossad agents who were already on the ground planting drones at planting car bombs to take out top iranian government officials, military officials, scientists. then, of course,

those strikes on the nuclear sites. but now it is the iranian government that is under attack and the iranian government's ability to project power. fuel depots have been hit, police stations have been hit. so the israelis are operating according to the israeli military, with the freedom to navigate above the skies of iran, which is something new, not something that we've seen in this conflict before. but there might be a development there. the iranian foreign minister has said that he is still open to negotiations. he is still looking for a cease fire. he said that iran would stop if israel stops, and then a senior middle eastern official with knowledge of these negotiations said that that iran is appealing to the united states to stop its escalation. it's appealing to the u.s. to hold israel back and resume negotiations. so iran, it

seems, while they're talking tough and telling people to evacuate tel aviv, i can tell you no one is evacuating the city at the moment that that they do seem to want a deal and go back to negotiations. >> and that is an interesting development. again, russian foreign minister saying they're open to returning to the negotiating table now. richard engel, keep us posted and stay safe, my friend. thank you. joining us now is lieutenant general mark hertling, retired commander of u.s. army europe. also with us nuclear policy and national security expert joe cirincione. he's a member of the council on foreign relations and a former adviser to the state department. good to have you both here. general hertling, what do you make of iran's response so far and their ability to get through the iron dome in some places? >> well, truthfully. >> ana, it's been fascinating to me. i did not think iran would have this kind of capability after the initial strike. and the fact that israel has has destroyed most of their air defense, iranian air defense systems, as well as their air

force, as well as decapitating their most of their military leadership. so you're talking about more of a response than what i would have expected. and truthfully, the amount and waves of missiles that iran is throwing at israel, specifically tel aviv, have the capacity to break through. and here's what i mean by that. the iron dome, david's sling, the air defense systems that israel have are very capable. and when you talk about their capability, it's usually somewhere between 90 to 98% strikes and hit and defensive capability against any incoming ballistic missile. the problem is, when you have waves of hundreds of missiles coming in, some of them will break through. and that's what we're seeing happening. if iran actually synchronizes their attack, much like they tried to do last april 2024, they would be able to get quite a few missiles through into the population centers of israel, and that could be devastating.

so i'm watching this very closely surprised at iran's capability, even though israel seems to have gained the upper hand, iran is fighting back with what they have to fight back with. >> and, joe, let's talk about the heart of the matter here, why israel says it is going after iran in this way. shortly before israel launched the strikes, the international atomic energy agency said iran was in breach of its nonproliferation obligations. it was the first time they had made that assessment in about 20 years. iran now has said it has no intention of developing nuclear weapons, but has the right to use nuclear energy and research. given what you know, what what is iran's nuclear capabilities at this point, and how much damage has israel inflicted? >> well. >> iran has the capability to produce enough uranium for the core of about ten nuclear bombs in a matter of weeks, maybe as few as ten days. it would then have to construct these nuclear

devices, which will. take months. the official u.s. intelligence estimate is at least a year, although that could be sped up. that what israel had tried. >> to do. >> initially is hit some of those nuclear facilities. and you saw damage to the above. >> ground. >> the soft parts of those agreements, electrical substations and facilities that are above ground. but it's. >> unable on its own. >> to get at the deeply buried centrifuges. so you run the risk that iran could decide to just throw caution to the wind and do an all out sprint. >> to a bomb. >> that is what many of us have warned about for years. you attack. >> iran, you're. >> not going to be able to knock out the nuclear facilities, and you may just encourage iran to then go all out for a bomb, and you won't be able to stop them. that explains why netanyahu has broadened the target set. you can see in recent days it's civilian structures, political infrastructure, economic infrastructure that indicates a regime change strategy, not something to stop the nuclear program, but something to overthrow the regime. i think

that is beyond israel's capability, and that's what risks having this war go on for weeks and the risk of spreading to a regional conflict. >> i do want to ask more about the regime change angle in just a second. but, joe, sticking with your expertise when it comes to the nuclear capabilities of iran and these facilities that have already taken multiple hits, israel officials are saying they are not going to stop until iran's nuclear program is dismantled. whether that happens diplomatically with some kind of agreement or militarily, if these sites keep taking on these types of strikes, what is the risk when it comes to the dangers of what's inside these facilities now, you know, being exposed to the general population? >> well, the iaea, the international atomic energy agency just issued a report this morning assessing the damage, and they talked about the above ground facilities being damaged. and the risk is not really a radioactive risk. the uranium

hexafluoride uranium gas that spins in the centrifuges is slightly radioactive, but you have to ingest it basically to be hurt by it. it's more of a chemical risk. think of it as a highly corrosive chemical that could risk. and the iaea confirms this. so you don't have that kind of risk. you would have a risk if israel was to hit the reactor at bashir, that would be a reactor breach would be highly radioactive. or if iran were to hit the dimona research reactor in israel, again, that would be a massive release of radioactive gases and other and perhaps fluids that would cause a risk. but no, we're not worried about a nuclear explosion. we're not worried about a chernobyl or fukushima type disaster at this point. >> so, general, we learned president trump rejected a plan from israel to try to assassinate iran's supreme leader. this is according to two u.s. officials. so when we talk about this aspect of potential regime change, what are the calculations behind a decision like that?

>> well, it gets to what joe just said, ana, you know, it has to do with what is israel's strategy? is it to conduct regime change, which requires a different approach, or does it consist of primarily eliminating their nuclear capability? if you say it's their nuclear capability, that's the end state. israel by themselves does not have the ends. well, that's the end state, but they don't have the ways and means to do this. those ends, ways and means are all part of strategy. the same thing is true of regime change, what we've seen in other nations. in fact, the us has been involved in attempted regime change. you'll see that that causes a lot of chaos within a nation. and i haven't heard anyone say this yet, but iran is a country about four times the size of iraq, and it has 89 million people, about half of them being women, obviously. so when you're talking about the dynamics between the, the extreme right, the, the, the, the people who are running the extremist part of the government versus the

moderates, it would be very difficult to come to a conclusion, 5050 on who takes over. so when you talk about regime change or the deal that happens afterwards and bringing peace, who's bringing that peace about? is it the extremists or is it the moderates? and are you going after nuclear weapons or are you trying to change the government? that's when these kind of conflicts get very confusing. and i don't think israel has considered all those things when they've seen an opportunity to go in and attack iran, because it has been weakened by the last two years of fighting. >> general, the white house is warning iran to avoid retaliation against american forces. specifically, the trump administration has been sort of walking this fine line in terms of u.s. involvement. we're now learning that prior to israel's strikes, the joint chiefs chairman briefed the president and his national security team on three potential options. those options, according to three sources, included logistical support like

refueling israeli jet fighters, sharing intelligence using the american military's electronic warfare capabilities to try to help israel jam enemy weapons and communications. another option was to provide direct military support to israel, even having u.s. jets drop munitions in active combat alongside israeli fighters, for example. and yet another option kane briefed trump was to do nothing at all. general, now that these attacks are ongoing, what do you see as the u.s. role? >> well, if these bullet points are in fact correct, what i suggest is two of them are defensive in action to try and help an ally, which is what we did the last time israel was attacked by multiple rounds of missiles coming into their territory. two of them are offensive in nature. we have then become part of this conflict, not only conducting strikes, but also giving fuel and the capability of intelligence for israel to

continue their fight. so iran has truthfully a say in this. they are the enemy. they're the ones being attacked. so if it is purely a defensive measure, which is what we did the last time israel was being attacked, then you know, that's what allies do for each other. they help each other out. but when we get involved in offensive actions, it's a whole different story. and that's where i think the trump administration is treading very lightly. >> all right. lieutenant general mark hertling and joe cirincione, thank you both so much for that very, very interesting discussion. and now let me take you to canada, where this bilateral meeting between the prime minister of canada and president trump is now underway. let's listen. >> right now. if trump were president four years ago, but it didn't work out that way. but it used to be the g8. and now it's i guess, what's that? nine years ago, eight years ago, it switched over. they they threw russia out, which i claimed was a very big mistake, even though i wasn't in politics. and i was

very loud about it. it was a mistake in that you spent so much time talking about russia, and he's no longer at the table, so it makes life more complicated. but you wouldn't have had the war. and other than that, i think we're going to accomplish a lot. and i expect to and i think our primary focus will be trade and trade with canada. and i'm sure we can work something out. >> yeah. >> thank you very much. >> so much. thank you. >> very much. >> mr. president. mr. president. >> mr. president. >> president. >> how close are you. >> what is holding up a deal with canada from your perspective? >> it's not so much holding up. i think we have different concepts. i have a tariff concept. mark has a different concept, which is something that some people like. but we're going to see if we can get to the bottom of it. today. i'm a i'm a tariff person. i've always been a tariff. it's simple. it's easy, it's precise, and it just goes very quickly. and i think

mark has a more complex idea, but also very good. so we're going to look at both. and we're going to see what we're going to come out with something hopefully. >> illegal in iran a deal is. >> achievable within days. >> within weeks. >> is there that. >> kind of runway? >> yeah. it's achievable. both parties have to agree. yeah, sure. >> mr. president, have you seen have you heard any signals or seen any messages from intermediaries that iran wishes to deescalate the conflict? yeah. what what have you heard? what have you heard from the iranians? >> they'd like to talk, but they should have done that before. i had 60 days and they had 60 days. and on the 61st day i said, we don't have a deal. they have to make a deal. and it's painful for both parties. but i'd say iran is not winning this war, and they should talk and they should talk immediately before it's too late. >> and what would you say, in your opinion, what would it take for the u.s. to get involved in

this conflict militarily? >> i don't want to talk about that. >> and you mentioned putin. do you think that he should have a seat at the g7 today, that it should be the g8? >> i'm not saying he should at this point, because too much water has gone over the dam. maybe. but it was a big mistake. obama didn't want him. and the head of your country, the proud head of your country, didn't want him. this was a big mistake. you wouldn't have that war. you know you have your enemy at the table. even i don't even consider him. he wasn't really an enemy at that time. there was no concept. if i were president, this war would have never happened. but likewise, if he were a member of what was called the g8 at that time, it was always the g8. you wouldn't have a war right now. >> why not? >> support intelligence support? are you providing israel? >> we've always supported israel. we have for a long period of time strongly, and israel is doing very well right now. >> why not have china.

>> as a candidate. >> biggest economy in the world after the united states? >> well, it's not a bad idea. i don't mind that. if somebody wants to suggest china coming in, i think we suggest, but you want to have people that you can talk to, you know, they they don't talk to you. putin speaks to me. he doesn't speak to anybody else. he doesn't want to talk because he was very insulted when he got thrown out of the ga, as i would be, as you would be, as anybody would be. he was very insulted. and i mean, he was thrown out by trudeau, who convinced 1 or 2 people along with obama. he was thrown out. and he's not a happy person about it, i can tell you that. he's he basically doesn't even speak to the people that throw him out. and i agree with him. >> go ahead. >> sir. >> why are you ordering ice to target democratic inner cities? >> what's behind that? >> i don't know what you're saying. >> you did a post last night where you said you want ice to really target democrats. >> i want them to focus on the

cities because the cities are where you really have what's called sanctuary cities, and that's where the people are. i look at new york, i look at chicago. i mean, you got a really bad governor in chicago and a bad mayor, but the governor is probably the worst in the country. pritzker but i look at how that city has been overrun by criminals and, you know, new york and la. look at la la. those people weren't from la. they weren't from california. most of those people, many of those people. and yeah, that's that's a focus. biden allowed 21 million people to come into our country. of that, vast numbers of those people were murderers, killers, people from gangs, people from jails. they emptied their jails out into the u.s. most of those people are in the cities, all blue cities, all democrat run cities, and they think they're going to use them to vote. it's not going to happen. >> i. >> thank you, if you don't mind.

>> just i'm going to. >> exercise my role. >> if you. >> will, as. >> g7 chair. >> since we have a few more minutes. >> with the president. >> and his team, and then we actually. have to start the meeting to address some of these big issues. >> so thank. >> you. >> thank. >> you, thank you. let's go. >> thank you. >> that's it. >> that's it. thank you very much. out. go guys. got to go. >> thank you. golden dome. >> kitty kitty. let's go guys okay. >> those remarks and a brief question and answer session. they're here on the sidelines of the g7 summit happening in canada right now. the president about to head into a bilateral meeting with canadian prime minister mark carney, said that the focus will be trade in their session. and he was asked if he thought a deal would be achievable within weeks. remember, he's he's made that july 9th deadline for all these trade deals, he said. possible but not positive. you know, both sides have to agree. he was also

asked about the current conflict between iran and israel, would not answer the question about what it would take for the us to get involved militarily in that conflict. he was also asked about putin not being at this summit because, remember, it used to be the g8. and then in 2014, russia was kicked out of the g8, which is when it became the g7. and president trump claiming, you know, if russia had been left within this group, perhaps there wouldn't have been a war that would have broken out in ukraine. let me bring in nbc news white house correspondent yamiche alcindor, who is also there at the summit and was listening in to those remarks. what stood out to you most? >> well, good afternoon, anna. what stood out to me most was the fact that president trump is continuing to talk about the fact that he wants to see russia added back into this group, and we should remind folks 2014 wasn't kicked out. it's because they invaded crimea and kicked off what is really now an elongated conflict with ukraine.

and as a result, the members of the g7 got together and said that they didn't want russia to be part of this group. it's been something that president trump has continued to say over and over again. he made it a big part of his first term when he was here at the g7. it's interesting to see him start again as he was talking to reporters with that topic. it's also interesting that he, as he's facing so much pressure to have new deals because he's had this sort of strong line tariff policy where he's been trying to give countries ultimatums about what they should do in order to get a trade deal with the united states. it's interesting that he is saying that he's not positive that he'll get a deal out of the g7. and it's also interesting that as he was talking about this, standing next to the prime minister of canada, he was saying, look, i'm a tariff guy. mark is not, of course, referring to prime minister carney as mark. so it's really interesting to see the president in some ways make make it clear that his own strategy of sort of trying to force countries to come to his side isn't really working. so it's going to be very interesting to see how this

goes forward. as we said, the president is also supposed to meet with the president of mexico as well as the president of ukraine. we think that's going to happen tomorrow. so it will be very we'll be watching very closely to see sort of if the president is able to pull out any sort of economic deals. and it's also, of course, striking that the president was asked about iran and israel. it really just shows you that this issue is one that's going to continue to come up in the g7, as this is really supposed to be about the economy and trade. it's also now turning into a lot about the evolving and really escalating in many times conflict in the middle east. anna. >> all right. yamiche alcindor, thank you for wrapping that for us. up next here on anna cabrera reports, president trump tells ice to back off certain groups of immigrants, but issues this new order threatening other new order threatening other groups. we'll be right back. got an itchy throat from allergies? claritin liquid provides powerful, all-day allergy relief in an instantly soothing liquid. for relief of even your most irritating symptoms, like an itchy throat. claritin liquid. live claritin clear.® they get it...

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correspondent camila bernal and julia ainsley. camila, after this weekend. where do things stand right now in los angeles? are we expecting more protests, especially as these immigration rates continue? >> ana, it's very. >> possible we don't. >> have anything official yet. but all of this has been organized on social media and sort of coming together very organically. i will say, though, that things have gotten a lot calmer and smaller compared to last week. during the week, what we were seeing is very calm mornings, then people gathering in the afternoon and then more clashes closer to that curfew, that 8 p.m. curfew. yesterday the protest was a lot smaller, also very peaceful, but there was a hit and run. so one of those protesters was injured yesterday. of course, the largest protest since we started all of this was on saturday, where organizers say about 200,000 people went out to the streets of downtown los angeles. like you mentioned, mostly peaceful until people started throwing those objects to the officers. that was at about 4

p.m, and that's when we saw tensions escalating, police issuing that dispersal order, and of course, people getting arrested if they didn't leave. in total, lapd saying that more than 560 people have been arrested this entire time of these protests, we'd be entering day 11 of these straight back to back protests. in the meantime, though, there are ice raids that are continuing to be reported in the los angeles area. this weekend, there was a raid at a swap meet and witnesses reporting running away from this ice raids. there's a lot of fear in the los angeles area. of course, we've talked about how immigrants make up the fabric of los angeles, and a lot of people are worried about what's going to happen moving forward as these raids continue, which was, of course, the reason why these protests started in the first place. ana. >> well, and not just in los angeles, but now these threats from the president about new

enforcement actions across the country. overnight, president trump calling for an increase in deportations, especially in democratic run cities. but, julie, at the same time, he's also hinting at exemptions for farm and hotel workers from raids. so what more do we know about what the actual policy is right now? >> yeah, that's right. and it looks like they're going to try to have it both ways, president trump said late last week in a post on truth social that he was hearing mainly from business owners in the agriculture and hospitality sectors, that they had good people who were being arrested. he seemed sympathetic to the business owner complaint about what was happening with ice, and he said changes are coming. but also last week we learned about plans to send ice swat teams out to five major metropolitan cities, all with sanctuary city policies, all run by democratic governors and mayors. rather, that would be seattle, chicago, philadelphia, new york and the dc area. and so we're starting to see how that's going to play out on the ground.

what we expect is to continue to see the arrests like the ones that we're seeing in los angeles, to see the protests, to see extreme law enforcement tactics. whether you use an ice swat team or at times may call in the national guard to respond to protesters or to secure ice in their arrest operations. but all of this is to try to boost arrest numbers. that was one of the reasons why we started seeing this major operation in los angeles, and it's difficult to see how the trump administration will meet their quota. remember, in mid-may, stephen miller told ice officials they needed to be arresting 3000 immigrants per day. at the height so far, we've seen somewhere between 22 and 2500 arrests per day, and even that included large sweeps of places like home depot parking lots, where people may be hanging out as day laborers trying to get jobs. and it was not something that was calculated and targeted, just focusing on criminals. so now the trump administration is caught in this tough place where ice officials are going to need to answer to those quota

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>> water running through the window. >> the side. >> of this. >> apartment building collapsing. >> oh my god. >> emergency crews say between two and a half and four inches of rain fell in about 30 minutes saturday night. >> it happened so quickly and so fast. i've never seen anything like this. leaving cars. >> submerged and homes destroyed. >> no longer can. >> they repair that. >> the flooding. forcing roads to buckle and others now dangerous, filled with scattered debris. >> not only is there debris on the roads, some of those roads are washed away. it's just very dangerous. >> west virginia's governor says at least five people are dead and four others missing. >> we're using drones, search dogs and swift water personnel. we're trying to recover anybody that's missing. >> first. >> responders working around the clock. >> the disaster in west virginia. >> comes just days after deadly flash flooding hit san antonio from above. a look at the damage. at least 13 people were killed last week, most after multiple vehicles were swept away into a creek by fast moving water. as the search for those

still missing continues, one survivor says he's grateful to be alive. >> i'm grateful enough to have my life and have god on my side to get me out. >> we're expecting a briefing from the governor a little bit later this morning, as well, from officials here, to give us a better sense of the numbers and who else they might be looking for. in a way, this is a race against the clock as well, because unfortunately, more rain is in the forecast. a lot of the folks here just don't know how much more they can take. >> no, no rest for the weary. it seems. jorge solis. thanks. that's it for us today. thank you for being with me. i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. chris jansing is next. >> good day. i'm chris jansing. >> live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. suspect captured. the minnesota manhunt ends with the. >> man accused of. >> murdering a lawmaker and her spouse in cold blood, now in custody. any minute now, we're