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fully mobile modern business. add mobile to your internet and save hundreds a year on your wireless bill. switch to comcast business mobile today, and get an eligible 5g phone on us, with a qualifying trade in. call today to learn more. lawrence has an incredible guest lineup. he's got california us senator alex padilla tonight and minnesota ag
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keith ellison, who you just saw me play a piece of his speech last hour. also, massachusetts governor maura healey. i should stop talking now because now it is time for the last word with the aforementioned lawrence o'donnell and all of those really good guests. good evening. lawrence. >> no, rachel. keep going. keep keep selling the show. >> thank you very much. >> rachel. >> i wanted to show. >> you you've. >> been covering. >> these protests and, by the way, getting. >> us ready. >> for it. as it was. >> coming. >> just better than anyone. >> so there was there was. >> no real surprise, i think, for your audience about just how big and how important this was this weekend. but i wanted to show you. >> a theme. >> that i discovered. >> even though i. >> was on the other side of the country. >> that was happening. >> in the. santa monica protest. there's a recurring theme that. >> was on the. >> sides there. now, the this photograph was taken by elizabeth o'donnell on the other side of the country, sending it
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to me in new york. >> and that is actually. >> victor fresco. >> with that sign. >> victor is a very. big tv writer in la, with a very long career on all sorts of shows that we've all loved. >> and that. >> was not the only apology for a former santa. monica resident and graduate of santa monica high school, that santa monica. >> santa monica. >> is very ashamed of. >> had this, we had one guy with a sign that we showed which said stephen miller can never come home, which i thought actually was a very deep way to put it as well. like, i mean, nobody's a hero in their own hometown, but honestly, like, there's a deeper level to that, which is if somebody in your hometown ever holds up that sign about you, like, talk to your family, like talk, talk to the mirror a little bit like time to get real. >> yeah. and you didn't. >> have to go. >> looking for them if you just kind of randomly aimed a camera. >> in santa.
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>> monica that day, you were. >> picking up stephen. >> miller signs. >> everyone. that is a that is that is a that is a place nobody wants to go. i mean, everybody wants to go to santa monica. nobody wants their home town to think of them that way. >> and it was, i. >> have to say, you know, for santa monica, it was just. >> an amazing. >> i saw video of it. i saw. >> many, many angles of it. i remember being. >> in santa monica for certain protests. this was really extraordinary. >> and the. >> feeling at it. >> as i'm told, that the feeling. that others all over the country was like something people haven't really felt before, especially not this year. and it really, really was an. important moment for so many people. >> massive protests in massive numbers, i think, imbued with a new form of defiance, as trump has realized that the protests against him, the opposition to him is the most important thing in the country. and as he decided to threaten everybody and to try to make it seem like it's a, you know, dangerous or risky or somehow, you know, brave thing to get out there and
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protest against him. and the whole country is just, i think, responding kind of in one voice and refusing to be intimidated. and there's a real, i think, a joyful defiance in, in, in just framing it on our sort of the country's own terms rather than the way that he's tried to tried to caricature this stuff. >> yeah. and i was hearing from people. >> that they, they, they really feel a momentum. >> coming out. >> of this that more is to come. >> yeah. that's right. thanks. >> thanks, rachel. thank you. >> well. >> i. am holding in. >> my hands tonight. >> a letter unlike any i have ever read. a letter that i could never have imagined. >> being. >> written by anyone working in the united states senate. to anyone. else working in the united states senate. and we just we. >> just. >> got this. just got a copy of this. >> and so i am. >> departing for what from what were my prepared remarks. >> at this moment. >> to insert this. >> into the show? >> and the reason this letter.
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>> exists and is. >> such a shock to me, based on my own experience of working in the senate, is that no one like mike lee was working in the united states senate when i worked there, and mike lee disgraced himself this. >> weekend. >> and through guilt by association, disgraced every member of his. >> senate staff. with conduct. >> the senate. >> has. >> never seen before. >> the senate. >> has a. >> phrase point. >> of personal privilege. it is the phrase a senator uses sometimes to ask to speak. >> out of. >> turn, in order to say something of the utmost importance to that. senator, personally. >> and i want to give that. >> privilege right here, right now to. editor shelby, who is the deputy chief of staff to. >> minnesota senator tina smith, editor. >> shelby wrote this. >> letter to the staff. >> of utah's republican. senator
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mike lee after. >> mike lee decided. >> to make jokes on social media about the assassination of. minnesota democratic state representative melissa hortman and her husband. ed shelby's letter to mike lee's senate staff says. >> in part. >> i knew. >> melissa hortman. >> many people in this office did. >> she was a. >> longtime friend of senator. smith's who. had seen her hours. >> before she was murdered. >> so you'll. >> forgive my candor as i speak. >> through enormous grief. >> it is important for your office to know. >> how much additional pain. >> you've caused. >> on an. >> unspeakably horrific weekend. i am not sure what compelled you or your boss to say any of those things. why would you use the. >> awesome power. >> of a. >> united states senate office. >> to compound. >> people's grief? is this how
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your. >> team measures success. >> using the office of us senator to post not just. >> one. >> but a series of jokes about an assassination? is that a successful day of work on team lee? did you come into the office monday and. feel proud of the work you did over the weekend? let's recap saturday so you fully understand. >> what minnesota was going through. melissa hortman and. >> her. husband were murdered. >> senator hoffman. >> and his wife were shot numerous times and remain hospitalized. by the. >> grace of god. >> it appears they will survive. senators are discovered to be on a hit list. >> of an. >> armed. >> man on the run. >> senator lee's colleagues. >> in the decision of the office of senator mike lee, was. >> not to publicly. >> condemn the violence or. to express condolences to her shattered children. it was to
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intimate that melissa and mark somehow deserved this by making jokes. >> you exploited. >> the murder of a lifetime public servant and her husband to post some sick burns about democrats. did you see this as. >> an. >> excellent opportunity to get likes and retweets? have you absolutely no conscience, no decency? >> as of tonight, the answer to that question is senator mike. >> lee has no decency, and senator mike lee's staff now live in the disgrace he has. >> visited upon them. >> and they all have a moral choice in front of them. now, mike lee purports to be a man of great religiosity, but he is obviously not a man of great morality or great decency, and his staff has to decide tonight
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what to do about the disgrace he has handed them. >> we all know. >> what decency demands. minimal senate decency demands the resignation of any staff member who does not fully support mike lee's despicable tweets. and so if you remain on mike lee's staff in the senate and you find yourself down in the dirksen cafeteria or walking the halls of the russell building, the dirksen building, or the hart senate office building or the capitol, you should know that every other senate staff member sees you as disgraced, sees you as wearing mike lee's disgrace as your own. as long as you. decide to continue to serve mike lee in the united states. >> senate. >> you have your. own choice to
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make. if you agree with mike lee's choice to make jokes about assassination of a democratic. officeholder in minnesota. if you agree. >> with that. >> then stay with mike lee. stick with mike lee, stick with them all the way. but if you do have decency. you know you only have one choice. our first guest tonight is the first united states senator in history to be physically prevented from asking a member of the cabinet a question. california's senior senator, alex padilla, is the first united states senator in history to be thrown to the ground and handcuffed for asking a cabinet member a question. there are reasons why that has. never happened before in american history. the main reason is donald trump. but another reason is overzealous federal agents behaving,
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behaving as if they were in a war zone when they were in the air conditioned comfort and flawless safety and security of a federal building in los angeles, where senator padilla was meeting with other federal officials. there wasn't a single threatening person in that building, because no such person could ever get through the metal detectors and the security checks that allow you to get into that federal building in los angeles. and so what we saw that day were federal agents in the name of protecting a cabinet member, obviously trying to impress that cabinet member with trump approved violent overreaction. the marines pointlessly deployed to los angeles with absolutely nothing to do, also overreacted to an army veteran approaching that same federal building where the veterans administration office is intending to go to that office. as is his right as a veteran. and the marines decided
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to handcuff him instead of just asking him to stop asking him where he's going, and then wait for police officers and security officials to come and ask the same question to see whether he should be allowed to go to the veterans administration office where he was going. they were no reason to handcuff that army veteran who has probably visited that va office, that federal building, before. the absurdity of the handcuffing of that veteran was soon proved when they just let him go. and that is the total contribution of the united states marines to peacekeeping in los angeles so far, where the city has been consistently peaceful for several days now, including during this weekend's massive protest march against donald trump, against donald trump's attempt to be the king of this country in the middle east. tonight, real military action continues as air attacks exchanged by israel and iran
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have reportedly killed 24 israelis and at least 224 iranians, including at least six of iran's top military leaders. donald trump decided to enter the action tonight on social media, posting. iran should have signed the deal i told them to sign. what a shame and waste of human life. simply stated, iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. i said it over and over again. everyone should immediately evacuate tehran instead of trying to actually do something about what's happening in the middle east or in this country. donald trump spent hours on saturday watching a military parade that he scheduled to honor himself on his birthday. there was a very low turnout of spectators to donald trump's birthday military parade, where much of the parade route was empty of spectators. remember now, millions of trump voters live within an hour's drive of that parade, and they refuse to go. there are a million trump
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voters in the state of maryland alone, many of whom had less than a half hour drive to get to the washington, dc parade, and they refused to go. there's another 2.3 million trump voters in the neighboring state of virginia just across the river, who refused to go to the trump birthday parade. and there are millions more trump voters in pennsylvania, delaware, west virginia who were less than two hour drive from the 79 year old's birthday parade. and they didn't go. nothing donald trump ever said about his birthday parade could get them to come. not to mention the tens of millions of trump voters living elsewhere in the country who could have flown in and didn't. but while donald trump's birthday parade was failing to draw a big crowd, protests against donald trump all over the country amounted, by some estimates, to be the single largest total protest assembly in the history of the united
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states. on one day, the turnout in saint paul, minnesota, was still strong, even though the state was mourning the horrific murders of democratic state representative melissa hortman and her husband, which was followed in the middle of the night by the attempted murder of democratic state senator john hoffman and his wife, who were both seriously wounded. law enforcement officials spent the weekend in a manhunt before arresting 57 year old vance belcher, who is now facing federal and state charges of murder and attempted murder. the investigation revealed a list of other potential assassination targets, including both of minnesota's democratic senators and minnesota's democratic attorney general, keith ellison, who will be joining our discussion this hour. the defendant's roommate said this about the now accused murderers political thinking. >> that was. >> the trump supporter voted for trump. he liked trump i like trump.
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>> nobody's happy. >> with the government. everybody. >> everybody's happy. >> not happy with. >> this politician or. >> that politician does. but you don't go on a shooting spree. it's just that's why i hate even talking about it. because it's so crazy. >> donald trump, of course, no surprise, has not called minnesota governor tim walz to offer condolences or help in the investigation. governor walz was also on the assassination list. nbc news has obtained a memo sent by a senior official of immigration and customs enforcement stopping immigration enforcement action at work sites in the agricultural sector, including fisheries and meatpacking plants, restaurants and hotels. now, this is written proof that donald trump's promises of mass deportation of 15 million people were always lies. the only way donald trump could come close to deporting that many people would be to deport every person who is working in this country without
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a work permit. donald trump has actually deported fewer people than any president in the last 35 years, including all of the deportations of his first term. in one term, joe biden deported more than double the number of people donald trump deported in his one term as president. president bill clinton deported more than six times more people than donald trump deported in his first term. and so far this year, donald trump is not on track to achieving the kind of mass deportations he promised his followers, which is exactly why donald trump sent his ice agents into workplaces in los angeles to try to pump up the deportation numbers. the hard working people who donald trump's ice agents found in those workplaces are not gang members. they are not criminals. which is why senator alex padilla tried to ask donald trump's incompetent and unqualified secretary of homeland security what she was doing in los angeles last week, since she was not leading the
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arrest of violent criminals that donald trump promised his voters he would deliver. first, she lied. it was an instinctual response for someone working for donald trump, trained by years and years of donald trump lying, including the 30,000 lies he told in his first term as president. of course she lied. donald trump wants her to lie. that's why he made her homeland security secretary. and she is herself clearly now a pathological liar. it is pathological to try to lie to us about something we can see with our own eyes. and that is what donald trump's secretary of homeland security did when she lied about senator alex padilla. kristi noem knew exactly where to go to tell her lie. she rushed rushed to the fox lying channel, where the fox lying channel manipulated the video of senator alex padilla to try to show they started the video late to try to show support. the lie,
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told by kristi noem and fully supported by rupert murdoch, that senator alex padilla barged into a room and lunged at her in a threatening way, so he had to be physically subdued. that's the lie. >> and this man burst into. the room, started lunging towards the podium, interrupting. >> me and. >> elevating his voice, and. >> was stopped, did. >> not identify. himself and was removed from. >> the room. >> he didn't say who he was that until he was already. >> had been lunging. >> forward, and people were trying to detain. >> him. >> for quite a period. >> of time. >> senator padilla, as the video shows, never lunged at anyone, immediately said his name and was and then became the first united states senator in history, thrown to the ground and handcuffed for speaking. that has never happened in american history. kristi noem and her secret service agents protecting her. who did that? knew that they were in a fully secure federal building, a
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totally sealed federal building in a space where no unauthorized person could possibly be. they were not downstairs in the passport office, where people can go to renew their passports after passing through metal detectors and showing their ids, and having an appointment that allows them to enter that building. there is no more secure building in los angeles than the building where kristi noem told the lie that someone lunged at her and she felt threatened. and so her secret service agents and the fbi agents supporting them had to become the very first federal agents in history to throw a united states senator to the ground for speaking, and to handcuff him for speaking. what you see on that video of what they did is a crime. it is a crime against democracy. and it fits the elements of federal and state crime. on false arrest. just because the officers involved gave up, trying to execute and complete that arres, does not mean that they did not
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violate the law. the federal code on unlawful detention says that it is a violation of law. if an officer apprehends, arrests or confines any person without legal justification. and the way to prove that legal justification is to charge the person with a crime who you've decided to handcuff and throw in the floor of a federal building. but they didn't do that because senator padilla committed no crime. senator padilla gave them no reason to legally do what they did. >> every single person that has. >> been able. >> to do. >> this. >> senator alex. >> padilla, i. >> have questions for the secretary because. >> the fact of the matter. >> is. >> a half a dozen. >> violent criminals. >> that are. rotating on your on your. >> i also want. >> to hands. >> off how many of our ice agents have their jobs.
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>> down on the ground. >> on the ground. >> hands on your back. hands behind your back! let me get on my hands. go ahead. >> put him behind my back. >> all right. cool. >> right hand. >> lay flat. >> lay flat. >> on the other hand, sir. >> other hand. there was. >> no recording loud. >> out here. >> i did not. >> no recording allowed out here. >> purple guy. right. >> in his first public comments after that incident, when he was leaving the federal building in the completely peaceful neighborhood of westwood, adjacent to the ucla campus, senator padilla insisted that what happened to him in that building is not about him, but should be taken as a powerful and tragic lesson. >> i came to. >> the press. >> conference to hear. >> what she had to. >> say, to see if. >> i could learn any new additional information, and at one.
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>> point i had a question. >> and let me emphasize. >> this as we've emphasized the right for people to peacefully. >> protest and to stand up for. >> their. >> first amendment rights for our fundamental rights. i was there peacefully. at one. >> point, i had. >> a question, and so i began to ask a question. >> i was almost immediately. >> forcibly removed from the room. i was forced to the ground, and i was handcuffed. i was not arrested. i was not detained. i will say this if this is how this administration responds to a senator with a question, if this is how the department of. homeland security responds. >> to a senator. >> with a question, you can only imagine what they're doing to
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farmworkers, to cooks, to day laborers out in the los angeles community and throughout california and throughout the country. they don't. >> preguntas esta. >> esta es la reaccion un senador con una pregunta imaginense estan haciendo con cocineros. jornaleros campesinos y otros immigrants no violentos en la comunidad de los angeles, del estado de california. >> y en el pais. >> joining us now is the senior senator from california, alex padilla. he's the ranking member of the rules and administration committee and a member of the senate judiciary committee. senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight. and i wanted to get i know you'd want to comment on what's happened over the weekend with two of your senate colleagues from
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minnesota, senator smith. senator klobuchar, whose names are on, were on an assassination list of someone who has now been arrested. >> the. i appreciate you having me, lawrence. >> and i'm still sort of processing what happened. >> as i see that video over again and. >> yes, fault. >> that followed by the tragedy in minnesota, my heart goes out not just to my senate colleagues. >> senator smith. >> and senator klobuchar, but to the families. >> and the huffman families. >> for what they have endured. >> sadly. >> it is a reminder. >> of the tense and. >> divisive political environment that we are. >> living in, and there's a lot of reasons. >> for it, but it cannot be ignored that. president trump. >> has set a tone not just. >> in the last week, not just in the last couple. >> of months, but dating back to the. >> day he. >> came down the escalator. >> at trump. tower to announce. >> his first campaign for
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president. >> he is the commander. >> in chief. he is the president. >> of. >> the united states. >> and if he chose. >> to, there's a. >> lot that he could do. >> to turn down the temperature to de-escalate the tensions. >> that are there in los angeles. >> and clearly, in so many communities around the country. >> senator, you know, i have to say, seeing united states senator thrown to the floor like that and handcuffed. it it certainly you don't have to be a former senate staffer to be pained by the sight of that. but those of us who work there do have, i think, extra feelings about about that sight. what is it like for you? it's been a few days now. you just saw it again. i'm sorry we had to show it to you, but this is the news that we're discussing. what is it like for you to see that video and have that experience go go through it again that way? >> yeah. >> no, look, i don't mind seeing it. i'm glad there is video. >> because can you imagine if. >> that would have.
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>> happened and i would have come. >> out of that building? my word. >> against secretary noem. >> you know. and the propaganda. >> machine that is the trump administration. so thankfully. >> there is that. >> video not just for me to. >> watch, not just for better and for. >> worse, you know, my wife and kids to watch, but for the. >> world to watch, because as you mentioned earlier, and i keep. repeating over and over again. >> if this is. >> how the administration handles. >> a senator with. >> a question, you can only imagine not just what they're capable of, but what must be happening in all corners of the country. >> where. >> cameras are not on, when they. >> are detaining. >> so many nonviolent criminals, hardworking women and men with the audacity of them maybe asking a question or trying to speak up for themselves. or their rights. there's a reason that there's so much fear and terror in communities around the country, and that's sadly what the trump administration wants. if some good comes out of this, whether it's increased awareness
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as to what's going on, then maybe that can. >> be a good thing. if there's people. >> who have been aware of the increasingly extreme and cruel actions by the trump administration, then maybe that's a good thing. and heaven forbid, maybe the hearts and minds of some of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle can be moved enough for a change in policy, or even the modernization of our immigration laws. that would be a good thing. but lawrence, it's not. >> just because. >> of what happened to me that you hear the passion in my voice is because this is personal. as you know, my parents are immigrants. >> to this country. >> my dad, for more than 40 years worked as a short order cook. my mom cleaned houses. >> they worked hard. >> and they. >> sacrificed so. >> much so that we could live the american dream. and so if all the trump administration was doing was targeting violent, dangerous criminals, there would be no debate, there would be no discussion. but as data now reveals, more than 90% of those that have been detained and of those deported, more than 90% do not have criminal convictions.
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they're going after the very same workforce that they deemed essential at the end of the first trump term, at the outset of the pandemic. >> senator, i know you after the fact. i'm not sure exactly how this worked. you had a meeting with kristi noem before leaving the building. how long after that event did that happen? how was that arranged? what happened in that discussion? how long did it last? what can you tell us about that? >> so you provided a lot of great context earlier, lawrence, about the security of the space. >> we were in in. >> a federal building where i was met at the entrance by a national guardsman. >> and an. >> fbi agent, and. >> they put me through security. >> screening. >> more than. >> more than. >> proper, more than appropriate. they escorted. >> me to a conference room where i. >> had a scheduled. >> briefing with representatives of northern. >> command. >> because to deploy federal forces. marines, and federalized
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national guard women and men to the streets of los angeles over the objections of the governor, the mayor, the sheriff and the local police chief, i needed to know why, what was their mission, and what kind of training did these folks have to be able to execute that mission and probably interact with civilians? that briefing was postponed. because some of the folks that were. >> going to be that. >> briefing were in this press conference. and so i asked to go listen in because maybe, just maybe, i'd get information there that i haven't gotten in committee hearings, that we haven't gotten in responses to letters that we've submitted, formal inquiries of the department of homeland security. maybe. >> just maybe. >> i'd get some information. >> the very. >> same escorts, the national guardsmen and the fbi agent are the ones that brought me into the press conference, opened the door for me, were standing by me for the several minutes that we were there listening. to the nonsense and. what really. compelled me. >> to speak up. >> lawrence was not the first time, but the second time the
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secretary said that their job, the reason they were there, was to liberate the people of los angeles from the governor and the mayor. imagine that. is that the job of the marine corps to liberate american citizens from their duly elected representatives, their mayor and their governor? of course not. and so i had the audacity to try to ask a question. and, you know, within a split second. there was hands on me. and you've seen the rest. you you've seen the video. and so even after it happened and again. you seen the video, when the cops finally came off, they they asked me, would you like an audience with the secretary? if you're indeed genuine about meeting with the secretary? they were surprised. i said yes after the treatment i received, but that's why i was there to get information. they even said. and the other. briefing with northern command, are you. still interested in that? of course, despite how i've been treated, i'm trying to do my job as a
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senator to provide oversight and accountability of the administration. surprise, surprise, it wasn't a very substantive conversation with the secretary, tried as i might, and i came away with just a promise to, we'll get you the information. you're asking for. >> and did she apologize? >> you think that would be. >> a good place to start? but no, no apology. i don't i'm not taking it personal. no even acknowledgment. but again, i'm not taking that personal. i'm just trying to do my job. >> senator, i want to get your reaction to some breaking news we're getting right now from the washington post. this is a trump reversal of a trump reversal. i had reported that donald trump had decided to stop the raids in agricultural centers and other places where people are working, and the washington post is reporting tonight that officials from immigration and customs enforcement, including its homeland security investigations division, told agency leaders in a call monday that agents must continue conducting immigration
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raids at agricultural businesses, hotels and restaurants. so this is a trump reversal of a trump reversal. >> yeah, a trump reversal of a trump. is it chaos? is it incompetence? is it a combination of both? look, what happened at the press conference was on a thursday. i caught wind of. >> an. >> announcement on friday that donald trump had reversed himself and said, you know what? let's let's take our foot off the gas on enforcement and restaurants and hotels and agricultural fields. and i thought, well. maybe this is a baby step in the right direction. >> and before. >> today's reversal of the. >> reversal that. >> you just mentioned, there was also his statement overnight about, no, no, no, we're going to double down on enforcement in blue cities. right. so they're saying the quiet part out loud. it is overt and overt partizan attack that he's doing immigrants sadly, hardworking immigrants are pawns in his march towards authoritarianism.
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and so it makes you wonder, lawrence, who's. really in charge here? is it donald trump or is it stephen miller? >> it's sounding more and more like stephen miller. california senator alex padilla, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you. coming up, minnesota attorney general keith minnesota attorney general keith ellison dry eyes still feel gritty, rough, or tired? with miebo, eyes can feel ♪ miebo ♪ ♪ ohh yeah ♪ miebo is the only prescription dry eye drop that forms a protective layer for the number one cause of dry eye: too much tear evaporation. for relief that's ♪ miebo ♪ ♪ ohh yeah ♪ remove contact lenses before using miebo. wait at least 30 minutes before putting them back in. eye redness and blurred vision may occur. ♪ miebo ♪ ♪ ohh yeah ♪ ask your eye doctor about prescription miebo. ♪♪ ♪♪
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also had in his car notebooks containing a list of more than 45 minnesota state and federal elected officials, includingpre, beltre planned his attack carefully. he researched his family, his victims and their families. he used the internet and other tools to find their addresses and names and the names of their family members. he conducted surveillance of their homes and took notes about the location of their homes. >> during the weekend. manhunt for the suspect in this murder and attempted murder case, republican senator mike lee of utah decided to blame the democratic governor of minnesota for the murder and attempted murder of democratic state officials by calling it, quote, in a tweet, nightmare on wall street today, senator tina smith confronted mike lee about his
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hateful stupidity. >> i wanted him to. >> know how much pain that caused me and the. other people in my state. and i think around the country who think that. >> this was a brutal attack. >> i don't know whether senator lee thought fully through what it was. you'd have to ask him, but i needed him to hear from me directly what impact i think his cruel statement had on me. >> his colleague. >> the cowardly mr. lee, refused to answer questions about his loathsome statements or his conversation with senator tina smith. joining us now is minnesota attorney general keith ellison. thank you very much for joining us tonight. i see that there are state. to state charges filed along with the federal charges. why is the state also filing charges?
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>> well. >> he violated minnesota state statutes like murder. it is appropriate for there to be parallel charges. those state charges are being handled by our county attorney very ably and competently, and they're appropriate. you can violate both state and federal charges at laws at the same time. and when you are when you do that, you should face justice in both of those jurisdictions. and that's what's going to happen to this man. mr. butler. >> and is it likely that the federal case will go first? >> you know, that's often a point of discussion between both the federal and the state parties. we've had cases where we went first, and there have been cases where the feds have gone first. so it's just a matter of conversation. but in any case, he's going to be held accountable for his violation and his crime against both the people of the united states and the people of the state of
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minnesota, which is entirely appropriate. they're actually two separate sets of wrongs that he did, violating our state statutes against homicide, murder, first degree murder. in minnesota. you have to go to a grand jury to get a first degree murder charge. so that's why he's charged with second degree murder now. and of course, the interstate nature of using the internet and weapons that are bought and sold over and over state lines, that converts this into a federal offense as well. and i'm glad that both parties, both both the state and the feds are holding him accountable. >> when in this investigation, did you discover that your name is on the assassination list? >> i think i found that out early in the morning. i got a call from one of the folks who were investigating this thing really early saturday morning, and i was alerted because of
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that fact. you know, this this guy, i mean, he's clearly trying to scare and intimidate people, but minnesotans are made of strong stuff, and we're not scared or intimidated by the likes of this individual. but yeah, we learned it early in the morning before five, around 5 a.m. and i mostly i was just shocked and saddened by the news that i received simultaneously about my dear friend melissa hortman, who i've known for two decades, and i've admired every second of that time. and my good friend john hoffman, i was glad to hear that he was hanging on and that his wife was hanging on. and but those two people are both precious to me. they're not just colleagues. they are. they're their loved ones. they're dear friends. and i'm still i'm still grieving their loss. i mean, referring to the hortman family. >> tell tell us more about
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melissa hortman and what we. lost when we lost her. >> well, i, i've met melissa hortman way back before either one of us was in politics. i, i used to run something called the legal rights center, and she was a legal aid lawyer. she had a she had a client who was a tenant who was the victim of discrimination and abuse by her landlord. melissa was one of the lawyers who sued that landlord and got one of the biggest judgments at that time for a case like that. i think it was somewhere in the neighborhood of $400,000, which is a lot of money for discrimination. case. the, the, the client was a woman named stormy daniels, who both melissa and i had at some point represented in, not daniels i'm sorry stormy stormy harmon. and you know, she was a wonderful lady and she had a great lawyer. and so i was that's how i met melissa hortman. and after that, every, every time we worked on all kinds of things, whether it
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is child nutrition, landlord tenant education, issues of wage theft, paid medical leave. she cared about workers. she cared about families. she cared about kids. and she dedicated herself every single day. and i'll just say, john hoffman is a champion of the people as well. he does a lot for people with mental health. disability is a real champion and devoted advocate for that community. both are wonderful, and i just think people should know that when we lost melissa hortman, we lost a true giant. and but i am glad to hear that john hoffman is recovering, as is his wife. is both this just a tragic moment? but we can't be deterred. we got to know that these kind of incidents are designed to instill fear, and so we've got to continue to march forward, because i know that was is what melissa would want. >> minnesota attorney general
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