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you daddy earlier. do you regard your nato allies as kind of children? >> no, he likes me. i think he likes me. if he doesn't, i'll let you know. i'll come back and i'll hit him hard. okay? do you? he did. he did it very affectionately. daddy, you're my daddy. >> mark, i will not ask you to comment on that. >> thank you. the clip has. >> only gotten stranger the more times we see it. but thank you for joining us this hour. really appreciate it. thanks to all of you for watching. that will do it for us this morning. we'll see you tomorrow again at 6 a.m. eastern. ana cabrera picks up our coverage right now. >> right now on ana cabrera reports on offense. president trump rolls out his secretary of defense to reinforce white house messaging that the iran nuclear program is obliterated. >> you want to call it destroyed? you want to call it defeated? you want to call it obliterated. choose your word.
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this was an historically successful attack. >> also this hour, the supremes new decisions from the justices are rolling in right now. we'll bring you any and all big rulings as we get them. and up in the air, a new twist and potentially major setback in the senate gop's push to get the president's big, beautiful bill across the finish line. it's ten eastern, 7 a.m. pacific. thanks for joining us. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. and today, senators will receive their long awaited classified briefing from top trump administration officials about the secretive strikes the president ordered on iran's nuclear facilities over. >> the weekend. >> defense secretary pete hegseth and cia director john ratcliffe will be part of that briefing. already this morning, secretary hegseth held a press conference attacking the media for reporting on and, you know, trying to ask questions about that initial intelligence assessment produced by his own agency because parts of that
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report didn't track with president trump's early proclamations that the us strikes totally obliterated iran's nuclear program. let's get to our reporters and analysts. nbc news white house correspondent monica alba, nbc news senior national security correspondent courtney qb, council on foreign relations president emeritus richard haass, and msnbc national security analyst. former cia officer marc polymeropoulos courtney. a lot of theatrics from hegseth in that briefing this morning. was this tailored to an audience of one president trump? yeah. >> i think that was pretty obvious up there. but we did get a little bit more detail about the strikes over the weekend, specifically on fordo. that was really what this entire briefing focused on, from the chairman of the joint chiefs, general dan qin, including information such as that six of these massive ordnance penetrators were actually targeted on that nuclear facility there. but the big question remains not whether this mission was successful in that it carried out the men and women of the military carried
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out the mission in the way they were directed to do. but whether the u.s. actually has intelligence or evidence that the facility at fordo and that the ones at natanz and isfahan were destroyed, and not just that what was destroyed as part of those, was there any enriched uranium? were there centrifuges that were were part of that as well? now, we did hear from secretary hegseth about that. the idea that the highly. enriched uranium, whether it was actually destroyed or not or whether it was moved, but he didn't really provide any actual details on it. here's what he had to say. >> cnn and confirmed. >> do you have certainty. >> that all. >> the. >> highly enriched uranium was inside. >> the fordo mountain, or. >> some of it, because there were satellite. >> photos that showed more than a. >> dozen trucks there two. >> days in advance. >> are you certain. >> none of. >> that highly. >> enriched uranium. >> was moved? >> of course, we're watching every single aspect. we're looking at all aspects of intelligence. i'm not aware of any intelligence that i've reviewed that says things were not where they were supposed to
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be moved or otherwise. >> today we did. we did pick up some. >> now, soon after. >> the briefing was finished, ana, we had a truth social from president trump about this same issue, about the idea of whether the enriched uranium or any of these components necessary for creating a nuclear weapon were moved. the president saying the cars and small trucks at the site. >> were those. >> of concrete workers trying to cover up the top of the shafts. nothing was taken out of the facility, would have taken too long to dangerous, very heavy and hard to move. >> he is referring. >> there on a to. there were several ventilation shafts. there was a point of vulnerability. that the us targeted with those bombs. the hope that they would go the bombs would be able to penetrate further down. will those ventilation shafts in recent days were covered by concrete. the president and we heard that the very first mop, the very first first bomb, actually took those out. the president there, referring to the ventilation shafts and saying that the trucks that were there were concrete not addressing, again, the facilities at natanz and isfahan, where. >> the us. >> also struck on them.
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>> and so, monica, why did they decide to hold this presser just before the classified senate briefing? >> well, ana, i think this is. >> about optics. >> and about trying to provide some additional details. and we know that there was the new assessment and statement from the cia director, for instance, overnight, that did back up a little bit more of what the president was trying to argue. and he's been relying even on the. iranian officials statement about this, these nuclear sites being badly damaged. he's also been citing, of course, the israeli assessments. but this is really about. >> trying to issue. >> a. >> counter narrative. >> from the president and his top officials to what was in that preliminary. finding that upset. >> him so much that he was very. >> clearly lashing out about yesterday when he was holding that press conference at nato and that he's been talking about on social media pretty consistently since then. this is about the president trying to communicate that and trying to control that narrative. i think in. >> many ways. >> even though he himself conceded. that the. >> intelligence. >> even if it was in its early
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stages, was accurate. >> at the time. >> but that was the idea that it was preliminary and. >> that was. going there was. going to be a lot more information. >> coming in. but this is somebody who is very defensive about his decisions here, and specifically trying to link that to this idea that there's criticism of the military involved in the actual strikes, which is not really what people have been raising. it's the president making that linkage, when really it's just key questions that are raised that even the utmost experts can't answer with any kind of certainty. and that also connects to this concept of what may have happened with the enriched uranium, whether it was moved or not. this is a president who is being completely definitive about things that, frankly, cannot be said with such certainty at this time, and may take a. long time to figure out. >> ana. >> right. >> and so, richard, president trump and secretary hegseth are continuing to slam the media for doing our jobs, for reporting on, for asking questions about the intelligence around the iran attack. here's senator mark warner, vice chair of the intel committee, explaining why the administration does need to be
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pressed on the details. >> some of this. >> were questions that we're going to have, to be honest. >> with you, because. >> we intelligence. was manipulated and we ended up in a war. and i think most americans are. >> wish we would have thought. >> twice about we already have an administration that. >> is. >> clearly. >> firing people brighter. >> if they don't. >> change. >> the intelligence. so it doesn't potentially embarrass the president. that is. holy crap kind of danger. >> richard. >> this is post-iraq war. this isn't lawmakers and reporters splitting hairs. it's asking the white house to show their work. did this morning's presentation start that process? >> look. >> lots of things to say. battle damage assessment is always highly subjective. i've looked at any number of photographs, and it's hard sometimes to know exactly what you're you're looking at the idea that different people would have
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different interpretations makes perfect sense. second of all, you can't destroy what you didn't target. so i think there are big questions about what was not necessarily located in that facility, whether it was moved out recently or for all we know, it was, it was placed somewhere else years ago. it's why look, i think it's possible one in the same time to say this was an impressive military action that was warranted. at the same time, it didn't obliterate or eliminate the iranian nuclear program. elements of it will have survived, and i think in the years ahead, the united states and israel may well have to deal with it. so i think the administration is probably doing itself no favors and making the absolute case of what it accomplished, because, again, i think going forward, it's unlikely that iran will give up its nuclear program. it's unlikely that diplomacy will solve it for us. so it may be that we're called upon once again to act militarily against it. >> courtney. >> it does seem the white house
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intel view on iran's nuclear program appears to be coalescing now. tell us about this latest cia assessment. >> yeah, both the cia and the dni now saying with certainty that they have information that the nuclear program or these nuclear facilities were destroyed. but the reality is, we've been asking questions, including here today at the pentagon, about what that's based on and whether it's based on us collection, whether it's based on allies. secretary hegseth, as well as president trump yesterday reading statements from other nation's intelligence agencies or or monitoring agencies, including the israelis, saying that they believe that there was more, that there was destruction. but again, you know, as richard was just pointing out, nobody is showing their work here. no one is providing any details about what that's based on. we had you know, i keep going back to this one comment that we heard from president trump yesterday at the hague, where he said that people have had eyes on we've got no information about exactly who those people were, whether it was some country's intelligence
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agents, which would be a pretty shocking admission by the president to make, or whether it was some sort of a monitoring body that we're not aware of. but those are the kinds of details that we don't have, is exactly if, in fact, these facilities, like the one at fordo was, was in fact was destroyed, then how do we know that we have these these overhead satellite images that were shown today? and there is the compelling case that was laid out by the chairman of the joint chiefs for what the mission was and how it was executed, exactly the way that it was supposed to be executed. but that doesn't provide the evidence that with the execution of it, no matter how how perfectly the men and women in those aircraft actually conducted the mission that it actually was, the, the bombs did the job that they were supposed to do. what we saw today was video of testing where the bombs did what they were supposed to do, but that doesn't necessarily translate into the real world. that's that piece. >> that.
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>> last piece that we simply don't have at this point. ana, and candidly, the officials who i'm speaking to here say that that it's because they it doesn't exist yet. that information just is not clear even to the intelligence community at this point. >> i'm curious how you see things right now, mark, in terms of just sort of the debate even within the administration, because i say that it's within the administration. it was the defense department's own agency and intel that was part of that initial assessment, saying the nuclear program may have been set back only 3 to 6 months. and then you have the defense secretary saying, no, it was obliterated. it was completely destroyed. i mean, there's that debate happening internally. and so what do you see as far as what's going on here? and who should americans trust? what kind of intelligence can we trust right now? >> well, i think, anna, this is a spectacular own goal by the administration. and so when a policymaker, in this case, the president, united states, comes out with a definitive statement, in essence, his own analytic
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statement that's going to then throw the entire system into chaos because, as has been noted, bomb damage assessment takes a lot of time. it's the receipt of signals intelligence that's intercepts of iranian leadership, communications, military communications, intelligence, the scientific establishment, its human sources on the ground who sometimes can't be met right away. perhaps they do have eyes on the facility. and of course, there's other. as the chairman mentioned today, technical means, whether from imagery or or other such satellites, that would help us understand things. but this is a dynamic process and it takes a lot of time. but now you have the case in which 50% of the, you know, half the american people, whatever cia director ratcliffe says, or dni tulsi gabbard says they're not going to believe it because they're just going to think that they're falling in line with the president. and it's too bad, because ultimately, i think this was a strike in which there certainly were pretty significant effects that were carried out. and i think you can say this was a success in many ways, but it's just going to be questioned by so many. and again, i think it's just an own
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goal. and for the people of the intelligence community, by the way, this is a nightmare scenario because you need to have that independent means or the independent ability to conduct analysis. and i think that's gone now. >> monica, with gabbard apparently sidelined again, she's not going to be part of the briefings today or tomorrow, is our understanding. does the president have any top aides around him who do give him information that may diverge from his preferred narrative? >> i think so, anna, and this is a president who takes in a lot of different information before he makes decisions. but we got a little bit of insight into this, specifically from the chairman of the joint chiefs, dan kaine, who said that he wasn't susceptible to any kind of outside influence and how he gives information to the president when he does. listen. >> my job as the chairman is to offer a range of options to the president. i've never been pressured by the president or the secretary to do anything other than tell them exactly what i'm thinking, and that's exactly what i've done. >> and we know from our. reporting that there are several generals who are often giving him.
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>> that. kind of. >> information when he is briefed or getting his intelligence briefing. and then you mentioned specifically the director of national intelligence, tulsi gabbard. i'm told that even though, yes, they obviously have very differing opinions, she was in the meetings leading up to the decision to authorize air strikes over the nuclear sites in iran, but it is notable to point out that she won't be part of that list of briefers, since many others in the administration are going to be speaking with lawmakers today. >> monica alba and courtney kube, thanks, ladies for your reporting, mark. tehran is now moving to officially cut ties with the international atomic energy agency. they haven't responded to the un nuclear watchdog request to send in inspectors to assess what's happening at these nuclear sites. if iran ices out the iaea, will it be harder to verify u.s. and israeli intel? >> well, absolutely. and i think that, you know, as as often is the case, there is certainly military strikes, but it always leads to diplomacy. and so now is the time in which i think the trump administration has to push
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very hard for the iaea to get back in. the iranians might not want that, but that's really going to be the definitive way in which we can make it a true assessment of the status of the program. there is a lot of tension between the iaea and iran and iran right now. but i think that these talks that are coming up, i believe, next week in oman, certainly are going to focus on that. at the end of the day, what matters the most as we're going over this entire issue of bda is what has been the effect on the iranian program. it matters to the united states. it certainly matters for israel, which sees that that program as an existential threat. and if we're ever going to get to a place in which, you know, we can kind of calm the tensions down, it's got to be with with kind of inspectors on the ground trying to see what exactly has occurred. whether the iranians allow that really remains to be seen. >> yeah. richard, mark just mentioned the potential talks next week. trump certainly teased that there would be a meeting with iran officials next week, although i don't think iran has confirmed that yet. where do you see all this heading? has iran's role in the region changed. right now? a lot of the initiative sits with
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iran. when this crisis began, it was about israel. then it was about the united states. iran has to decide what to do. i think we've seen essentially they've opted out of any serious retaliation. my own sense is they're going to focus on consolidating their government, make sure that the regime survives. i fear that over time or worry, over time, they'll they'll make efforts to reconstitute their military programs across the board, rebuild their proxies, and above all, rebuild their their nuclear program. if these talks happen, look, if we can somehow get the inspectors back in, that would be good. but we shouldn't get ourselves. the inspectors aren't a panacea. inspectors inspect where governments allow them to inspect. and by definition, the iranians may do end runs around the inspectors. so again, we've got to be careful not to think. we're not to fall into the trap, that this is a problem that can be solved either with diplomacy or military force, so long as you got the kind of government
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in iran that you have, which, by the way, which we're likely to have for some time to come. >> and we're. >> going to dig. >> deeper on that issue later this hour. richard haass and marc polymeropoulos, you guys always offer so much insight and expertise. i always learn so much from these conversations. thanks for being with us. and now let's turn to some breaking news from washington, where we're just getting decisions in from the supreme court. today, we got a case now involving planned parenthood in south carolina, and i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, also with us, leah litman, a law professor at the university of michigan and author of the book. lawless. lisa, tell us about this decision. >> this decision is really about two things. it's about the right of planned parenthood to serve people who are recipients in the medicaid program. but it's also more broadly, and we can talk about this as well, about the rights of private people, individuals to sue when states fall short of their obligations with respect to rights that are
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conferred by federal law. those are called 1983 actions. and over the last couple of decades in this court, in particular, has really eroded the ability of people to bring cases in what are called private rights of action to enforce their federal civil rights. here, a medicaid recipient wanted to enforce a federal law that says individuals can obtain medicaid related services from any qualified provider. and when the state of south carolina tried to exempt all planned parenthood's from the medicaid program, she and planned parenthood sued the state of south carolina together today the court, by a63 decision, saying she doesn't have the right to use a federal statute to bring her own lawsuit against the state of carolina to try and enforce her rights under the medicaid program. they are finding that this is more analogous to a spending statute than it is one that confers clear rights to her as an individual to enforce those
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rights under the medicaid program. essentially, the court saying those aren't really rights at all. that is a directive to states. but states have a lot of latitude now in determining who is and who is not a qualified provider. this is essentially a permission slip to states all over the country. if you want to exempt planned parenthood and other reproductive health centers from providing straightforward reproductive and family planning health care to women in your state, there's really nothing that's going to stand in your way anymore other than a hostile federal government. and you know as well as i do that this is not an administration whose department of health and human services is going to say to states like south carolina, no, in fact, planned parenthood is a qualified provider that you must include in your distribution of medicaid. >> so, leah, what do you see as the ramifications of this decision? >> i think the. >> practical implications. of this decision are going to be momentous. i mean, medicaid serves as an important source of health insurance for. so much of
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the american population. and what this decision does is it eliminates patient and providers ability to challenge states decision to defund planned parenthood by refusing to reimburse medicaid patients for any care that they obtain at a planned parenthood. so who is this decision primarily going to affect? it is primarily going to affect the individuals living in rural. areas that suffer from a shortage of primary care physicians. you know, statistics indicate 65% of rural areas have a shortage of primary care physicians and 76% of planned parenthood health centers are located in rural or medically underserved areas. so by excluding planned parenthood from the medicaid program, what states are doing is they. are forcing individuals to find care elsewhere. that might be. super long distances. >> and. >> very difficult. >> to obtain. and the effects of bouncing planned parenthood, we.
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>> know. >> result in significant. deprivations of care. after kansas. blocked its ability to obtain medicaid reimbursement and care and. >> planned parenthood. >> the state saw more than a 30% decline in the number of annual pelvic exams or cancer screenings. that's the sort of care that planned parenthood health centers provide in medically underserved areas that the states are now refusing. >> to. >> reimburse people for. >> okay. >> thank you both so much. i do want to note that the court is done releasing decisions today. they did announce that they'll be another decision date tomorrow. so we're at the end of the term. there's still a handful of decisions out there, including the one involving cases have to do with president trump's executive order to end birthright citizenship. so that's one we're still awaiting. thank you very much. lisa rubin and leah litman. up next, senate scramble a massive setback for republican leadership's wish list. in president trump's so-called big beautiful bill. where they go from here plus
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senate parliamentarian just this morning throwing ice cold water on president trump's so-called big beautiful bill. the senate's referee ruling. trump's agenda cannot include things such as bans on medicaid funding for gender affirming care, as well as denying federal funds for states that provide medicaid coverage for immigrants who are not citizens. so that means these specific provisions would be subject to the senate's 60 vote threshold. they can't just pass with a majority vote. that lightning strike as president trump is set to hold a big event on this big bill at the white house, as the administration aims to try to dial up the pressure on republican holdouts to get the job done ahead of the president's july 4th deadline. joining us now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles. ryan, starting with the news this morning, the senate ref striking down these key provisions of this monster bill. what did we learn? >> well, what we learned, anna. >> is that democrats. still play a role. >> in this process, right? for a long time, the democratic.
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>> base has been upset. >> that there isn't much that they can do to stop the forward progression. >> of the trump agenda. this is the one. >> area where they get to play a role. >> and you really. >> laid it out very well. >> as to. >> how the parliamentarian plays a role in this process. when they're passing a bill through reconciliation, it has to fall. >> under a very narrow set of guidelines. >> it essentially has to be directly tied to the. >> budget. >> and it really can't change policy overall. >> and the one example. >> of this is that she struck down a provision. >> having to do. with an adjustment. >> to. >> the provider tax. >> credit. >> which is how. >> states fund. >> their. >> medicaid programs. now, republicans tell. >> me that they say that this is just a technical issue that she. had with. >> this particular provision. >> they're working to rewrite. >> that technical. >> provision. >> and they believe that ultimately. >> they'll get. >> the fundamental issue. >> that they're. >> trying to get accomplished. >> here through. >> but it's an overall. example of how. >> this process can. >> get thorny. >> at times. >> and how. >> democrats can try. >> and at least slow. down this process before it comes to.
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>> a vote. >> there's still a long. list of issues that need to go. through this process before. >> the bill can come to. >> the floor. >> and of course. republicans still. >> hope to have a vote sometime this weekend. >> so that. >> the house. >> can pass the bill by the 4th of. >> july deadline. >> yeah. tell us more about that. you just said there's a long list still to go through. so what does. it mean for the bill's timeline is that, you know, july 4th deadline realistic. just how important were these provisions to garner support from republicans? the margins are thin here. >> you're absolutely. >> right, anna. >> and that's. >> kind of the. >> vexing question. >> that we're trying to answer right now on capitol hill. it seems. >> that they still. >> have a lot of thorny issues to resolve. >> not just. >> with the parliamentarians rulings, but also that there seems to be a lot of disagreements among. >> both senate and house republicans about. >> the form of this bill, the. questions that they have related to it. some republicans. >> feel that the bill cuts too much. >> others think. >> that it doesn't cut enough. >> and so the. big thing that we're waiting for right now is for president trump to basically say, guys.
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>> you're done debating. >> it's time to vote. >> and i think what senate and house leadership is betting right now, anna. >> is that there aren't four. >> republicans in the senate, and then. >> another half a dozen or so republicans. >> in the house. >> that are willing to buck donald trump when he. >> says it's time to vote, he's giving them time to kind of debate these issues out behind closed doors. but when trump says, get this thing moving. >> there's a very likelihood that it will get moving very fast, even when it looks at this point like they have a long way to go. >> i think it was thune yesterday who said trump's the closer and they're counting on that, i guess. ryan nobles, thanks so much, my friend. meantime, kilmer abrego garcia, the man mistakenly sent to the notorious prison in el salvador, remains in federal custody this morning, days after a judge ordered he be let go. the judge, abrego's lawyers and the department of justice are still sparring over the conditions of his release. another court hearing set for tomorrow, and still it's not expected he'll necessarily go free with the
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potential for ice to pick him up again as soon as he's released here with us now for more on it is nbc news senior homeland security correspondent julia ainsley. julia, let's start with the conditions they're still debating. what do they include and what happens if he's released? >> yeah. >> ana, this. >> judge was ready. >> to release. >> kilmer garcia yesterday. >> saying that she did not think that. >> the government had. >> proven that there was any reason for him to. >> stay in. >> federal detention. >> but then. >> some questions. >> came up. >> about the conditions. >> of that. >> release, mainly from his own. >> lawyers, worried. >> that as soon. >> as he was released. >> from federal. >> custody. >> he could. >> be. >> taken in. >> by ice. >> and so they wanted. >> to make sure that. >> if. >> ice was about to take. >> their client. >> into custody. >> that they. >> were talking to the justice department. >> so. >> that he could. >> continue with this case. they said if he was taken into ice detention and say, texas or. >> louisiana. >> they gave those. >> as examples. >> it would be very difficult for them to reach their. >> client and have them have. >> him participate. >> in. >> his. >> defense in.
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>> this ongoing federal trial in tennessee, where he's been. >> accused of. >> human smuggling. and so they're working out those details. the judge. >> was sympathetic. >> to that, and. >> they're going to try to. >> get. >> some kind of assurance. >> from the justice. >> department that they're in communication with. >> dhs about if he is. >> taken into. >> ice. >> custody, how he'll. >> be able to participate. >> and. >> where he'll be held. >> and his. >> access to. >> legal counsel. >> okay. keep us posted on that, julia. meantime, we're also keeping a close eye on a commissioners meeting in miami, and people are thinking commissioners meeting. why do i care? here's why. because this has to do with whether ice should receive access to records of miami-dade county inmates. so what are the ramifications here? >> that's right. >> the county commissioners. >> started meeting about an hour and a half ago, and at. >> the last. >> meeting we had on this, there were a lot of protesters. >> who said. >> that they were. >> worried that immigrants could. >> essentially disappear. >> after they go to. >> jail, because. >> they're worried that they. >> their information could be shared. >> with ice and they could be picked up. now, this does happen in other. >> places across. >> the country that don't have. >> sanctuary jurisdictions. >> and places where law
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enforcement. >> is working hand. >> in hand. >> with ice. >> it's an argument. we've heard tom homan, the border czar, and others make. >> to say. >> it's actually. >> safer to. >> go pick. >> up people. >> after they've served their. >> time, but. >> in. >> this case, they're worried that say they're not. convicted of a crime. say their witnesses say there's some reason why they've come in contact with law enforcement. could they then. >> be handed. >> over to ice because all their information would be shared with ice. and because of the very. >> large immigrant. >> population in miami and miami-dade county, there's a lot of concern and a lot of fervor around what could happen next there. ana. >> okay. julia ainsley, we appreciate your reporting. thanks for laying it out for us. up next here on ana cabrera reports, can we talk iran and the u.s. consider a new phase of negotiations. what's the likelihood that happens? and what leverage does iran have? the ayatollah is making new comments today and later, this heat wave almost in the rearview as about a dozen locations between south carolina and connecticut hit record temps. more on the severe weather, more on the severe weather, putting millions under pressure.
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and iranian officials, will take place next week, but also saying a nuclear deal is not necessary in the aftermath of american airstrikes. >> we're going to talk to them next week with iran. we may sign an agreement, i don't know. to me, i don't think it's that necessary. i mean, they had a war. they fought. now they're going back to their world. i don't care if i have an agreement or not. we. the only thing would be asking for is what we were asking for before about. we want no nuclear, but we. we destroyed the nuclear. >> i want to bring in hooman majd. he's an iranian american writer and msnbc contributor. hooman, thank you so much for being in. we hadn't heard from the ayatollah for days. and especially, you know, during the american strikes against iran. it's clear this is what he said today when he came up. he said the americans failed to achieve anything significant in their attack on nuclear facilities. it's clear that the american president needs to exaggerate. they resort to exaggeration to
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cover up the truth. what's your reaction to the tone and how the ayatollah is positioning iran here? what do you think the iranian people hear there? >> well, i think the iranian people listen to the ayatollah's words, but they also watch the bbc and voice of america and various channels. cnn, of course. and they know what's going on better than most people think the iranian people know. but of course, the message is to the diehard supporters of the islamic republic that the us didn't do what they. >> said they did. >> israel didn't do what it said it did. and that's a message that i think a lot of iranians will actually accept that it's exaggeration. it's in the people can understand it's in the interest of. >> the united states to. >> say it's done, especially with an administration like donald trump's. it's in the interest of the israelis. >> to. say they. >> they were victorious and they were able to completely obliterate iranians, both nuclear infrastructure and their missiles and the ability to. strike back. and it's in the
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interest of the iranians. >> to say they. >> didn't, of course, those that's. >> the rhetoric. >> the problem here is that what's next? i mean, donald trump says we're going to talk to iran next, but maybe we don't need to because we did did away with their nuclear program, but we didn't do away with their nuclear program. even if you accept that the program has been obliterated, the functioning program has been obliterated. iran has the technology to reconstitute it. so what happens next? does iran reconstitute it? and if it does, what will we do? do we go back to war? does israel start strike again? i mean, the thing the problem here is war is not going to solve the nuclear issue. diplomacy was was supposed to solve it. diplomacy had two. there were two things with diplomacy. one was to guarantee that iran's program was peaceful, somehow create a mechanism so that the program was peaceful. inspections, limits on, you know, the stockpile of enriched uranium. the second one, the second goal was to incentivize iran to never
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go to a program. now, both of those have been demolished. we don't we don't have inspectors right now properly inspecting. >> the iaea has said they've been trying to communicate and to get in and they're not getting an answer. >> right. and iran's not going to give them any answer right away because they feel that if they give them the answer, oh, here's where the stockpile is, then they'll get bombed or it'll get destroyed. right. so that's going to be a while before the iaea even gets in. so that's been destroyed. diplomacy has been destroyed because iran doesn't trust it anymore. i mean, think about it. iran was scheduled. >> two days. >> after israel attacked, scheduled to have their sixth meeting with the trump administration diplomatic on diplomatic solution to the to the. nuclear crisis. and israel attacked with the sort of. yellow light or green. light by donald trump. and then trump attacked. >> right. and we do know that there was significant destruction in general across the across the country, of course, across different infrastructure impacts. the
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military. yeah. no question. impacts to the nuclear facilities. i'm wondering how you see it in terms of like what's happening in iran right now. we've heard the president and others talking about regime change, but what did change what that based on what we know, what is different right now inside iran because of all of these attacks? >> well, what's different is definitely the iranians have have witnessed their military being, you know, overwhelmed by israel first and then by the united states. and i think what's changed is intelligence. for example, iran has a huge intelligence failure in allowing israel to basically operate with agents on the ground in iran and be able to pinpoint who they want to assassinate. and that's a shock to the iranian people. and i shock to the system. so that's going to be one of the first things iran's going to want to correct. they're already going after what people they call mossad agents. and some may or may have been and some may not have been, but there's going to be a roundup of. >> a lot. >> of people in this
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intelligence failure, perhaps even within the military. there's no question that mossad has been able to infiltrate the military and pinpoint where people are sleeping in their beds and kill them with missiles. so that's something the iranians are somewhat shocked by. not just the government, but the people, too, and the people who've been bombarded by missiles and by by israeli bombs. i'm not talking about the us bombardment of specific nuclear sites. well, they tried to leave tehran. now they're coming back. they're going to try to rebuild the city. they're going to, you know, cafes will start opening up. they already are actually opening up. businesses will open up. you know, friday is tomorrow is a holiday in the muslim world. but saturday will be the first day of the week since this this war ended since the ceasefire. and we'll start seeing things change in iran slowly. but there's a lot of shock among the people, including the fact that over 400 people died. civilians have died in this. yeah.
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>> well, hooman, i would love to. have a deeper conversation that we, like, barely scratch the surface, i feel like. but you are a wealth of information. thank you so much for sharing some of it with us. it's my pleasure. great to have you with us. thank you. up next here on ana cabrera reports defending diddy sean combs legal team preparing to sell a jury on keeping their client out of prison. what we know about closing arguments happening right now. plus, will this scorcher ever end the heat wave threat, cooking millions and setting records? >> doctors recommend a stool softener for gentle, dependable relief from constipation. it's so gentle. doctors even recommended during pregnancy and after surgery increases water in the stool, making it softer so it's easier to go. no harsh laxatives, cramping, restraining collace. >> don't you hate that. >> dirty old hose? >> it kinks splits. >> and it. >> always leaks. >> and it's way too heavy to. >> carry around. >> it's time to get.
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are underway in the federal criminal trial of sean diddy combs. it's the final stage of this dramatic sex trafficking and racketeering case against the disgraced music mogul. a case that has spanned more than six weeks with graphic testimony from dozens of witnesses, including celebrities. combs has pleaded not guilty to all charges. this morning, the prosecution is up first friday. we expect the defense will have the floor and i want to bring in defense attorney misty marris now. misty, the prosecution again underway, giving their closing arguments. what are we expecting them to say? >> so the prosecution is coming out with. strategy right out the gate. the very first thing. >> they said. >> to the jury was. >> after weeks of testimony. you learned combs. >> is the. >> head of a criminal enterprise. so they're. starting out there with that rico charge. >> and there's. >> a reason for that. >> ana. >> because the other. >> charges, sex trafficking and the mann act, transportation to
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engage in prostitution are actually not only charges against combs, but they also qualify as what's called predicate crimes for rico. >> so they're. >> really interwoven. so i see where the prosecutors are going. they're also hitting a theme. the defendant counted on silence and shame and his fame and power. >> to put. everything he's above. >> the law and to abuse his victims, including his employees and the women that are the basis for these charges. so we can already see. >> the. >> theme here focused on the rico, and then we'll move on to the other charges. >> and the prosecution has said that they might take up to four hours to lay out the closing arguments. so it's not going to be a quick one. but there was an interesting development yesterday, and i'd love to get your expertise on this and your insights. the prosecutors revealed they were going to drop certain claims that they had argued about combs alleged involvement in attempted arson and kidnaping. now, they said this was to help to streamline the jury instructions. they're not technically eliminating any
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charges here. so what's the significance? >> right. >> so that got a little confusing. all of the charges remain the same. but with rico, we talked about it. they have to establish the government predicate crimes. and there's a list of ten that the jury will be able to consider. arson and kidnaping are on that list, along with other drug related charges. sex trafficking, prostitution, obstruction of justice, and a host of others. what they removed was attempted kidnaping, attempted attempted arson. the reason being prosecutors don't want the jury back there splintering or disagreeing on whether or not this constitutes kidnaping or attempted kidnaping. they need to get the jury to agree unanimously on two of those predicate crimes that they were committed by the combs enterprise in order to establish rico. so it was really strategic. sounded like it was good for the defense, actually better for the prosecution. >> so did. >> the prosecution prove their case? what's your take? >> so my. >> take is on the mann act. that's transportation to engage
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in prostitution. it is pretty simple. it is. did you cross state lines with that intent and then engage in prostitution? i think that's been proved by leaps and bounds. rico. to me. it's still. >> a little thin identifying who the coconspirators are on a i sat through, i was there for a lot of the trial. a lot of names came up. his chief of staff, his bodyguards. none of those individuals testified that came in on text messages. so from a defense perspective, i'm going to point that out to the jury during my clothes and on sex trafficking. >> this is. >> a true jury question. it all comes down to whether or not there was force, fraud or coercion with respect to the two victims, cassie ventura and jane. and quite frankly, cassie's case, a bit stronger. jane's case a bit weaker. defense used text messages to undercut that aspect. i think that one could go either way. >> okay. we'll see. thank you so much, mr. morris. good to have you here. up next on ana cabrera reports beating the heat. cities across the country hoping their power grids hold as millions of americans struggle through a final wave of extreme heat. but
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looked at my weather app and it feels like 96 degrees here in chicago. and we're still not even at that peak point of the day. this is a situation that many across the country are dealing with, as others are waking up to a cleanup after a late night round of severe storms. >> we absolutely just got hit overnight. caved in walls. >> roofs. >> ripped off trailer homes. >> and. >> a cloud of debris over. >> largo, florida. >> this ring footage. >> capturing this house almost. >> entirely flipped off its. >> foundation from the. >> heavy winds. >> the brutal early summer. >> heat wave clashing. with severe weather. >> at least. >> nine reports of potential tornadoes in southern minnesota. >> a live look. >> outside right now, coming down in. >> sheets as heavy rain. >> battered downtown. >> minneapolis. >> with much of the country bracing for another round of oppressive heat. more than 70 million people under heat advisories today, after. >> more than. >> a dozen. >> locations from. >> south carolina to connecticut.
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did mention this, anna, is that there is some relief coming to many. i know you guys are experiencing much better temperatures than we are in new york right now. that is shifting to much of the country, but so too is an increased threat of some severe weather. >> anna okay, stay safe. and to those in that path, please do what you can to get out of harm's way. thanks, shaq. now to a race against the clock today, three time olympic gold medalist kate faith kipyegon will attempt to shatter the glass ceiling for female athletes in a race to run one mile in less than four minutes. the 31 year old kenyan is the only female athlete anywhere close to breaking that barrier. she holds the current world record at four minutes and 7.65 seconds, which she set in monaco a couple of years ago. to be under four, she will have to shave off an average of two seconds per lap for four laps. that is no easy feat. to put her speed in context here, kipyegon record in monaco was eight
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