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paycheck that they can do with what they want to. job is a priority followed by health care. >> taxing time, mitt romney finally opens his books he made more than $42 million in the last two years, mainly all from investments. and fight night in florida, the mitts came off. >> you said you were paid $300,000 by freddie mac a historian. we have congress that came and said you lobbied them with regards to medicare part-d, at the same time your center was taking contributions -- >> you just jumped a long way over here, friend. >> last night newt gingrich would not take the bait but today fired back at romney in an interview with a tampa bay fox station. >> ironically, he owns stock in
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fannie mae and freddie mac, i wish i had known it during the debate. i would have said you are a stock holder you are getting richer off of freddie mac. >> president bomb is stiobama i putting the final touches on his state of the union address. and romney fighting for his political life in florida is trying get the out ahead of the president. we have our correspondents here with us. welcome both, chris, first to you, the president's state of union speech, he is going on have the largest audience for any campaign style speech, what are the messages that he is trying get out? >> if you ask anyone in the white house and they have been on television quite a bit, they will say it not a campaign speech, it's about the country and the state of the union. true, but of course it is a campaign speech, we are in 2012 and we have the republican race
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going on. picture in picture, it's right there. he will touch on what we have seen over the last few months. a relatively hard hit on congress for not doing enough. we are going to hear about warren buffett and the idea of the inequality of his secretary pays more taxes than he does and you'll hear the economic populism they believe is working. tho they will not go away with it now. and other things they will take the course tonight in what as you point out is probably the biggest campaign speech he will give before the convention. >> ryan, there's a lot of ugliness in this campaign and there was an issue with a woman at a santorum event where she
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questioned the president's religion and unlike john mccain four years ago, candidate santorum did not push back. i want to play that tape for you. >> i never refer to obama as president obama because legally he is not. okay [ applause ] >> and he is a muslim. my question is why isn't something being done to get him out of that government. he has no legal right to be calling himself president. >> well of course yeah, i'ming to my best to try to get him out of the government. >> ryan, do candidates have an obligation to correct someone when they are saying that kind of inaccurate information that is rooted in a rlot of hate? >> when you running, these
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moments are tests, and you can stand up and tell someone they are wrong or you can, you know, do what frankly is a slightly more cowardly thing, let the comment slide and not correct it and make a joke and hope the press doesn't really pick up on it. i think what it shows right now is the republican party is still, you know, seized by a pretty aggressive grassroots that has you know not just hostile but completely wrong views about who obama is and what he stands for. there's not a lot of leadership that are challenging those extreme views. you think about previous presidential candidates on both sides, george w. bush when he criticized congressional republicans -- >> or john mccain when he took on the tea party supporter or
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the woman in that crowd just four years ago. mr. a . >> you gain so much more being brave. >> i want to ask you about the memos, what does it he will tell us about the president and his advisers in the early days of his administration? >> it's posted now or will be in a you few minutes, i have new details from the memos from 2009 as the white house prepared for the first state of the union in 2010. i have additional parts that were not in the article this week. and they take you through the process of preparing for this important speech and specifically the sort of vigorous back and forth between the president and his aides over what policy proposals should be in a speech like this. and what was happening back then is not that much different than what is happens right now, it's a debate between how much can we change washington and how much
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should we address the jobs crisis. >> ryan, and chris, you have both set us up perfectly for a preview of president obama's third state of the union address. i'm joined by gene, gene thanks for being with us. at this stage, before we get to the state of the union, i want to ask you about mitt romney's tax return, we now know he paid 14% on investments. do we now know enough about his finances? and what the it tell us going into this campaign if he turns out to the nominee which is certainly not a foregone conclusion? >> i have never looked at mitt romney's tax return. but what drove the buffett rule is that we know a quarter of all people making over a million
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dollars are pays lower taxes than millions and millions middle class families and it just wrong. the american public thinks it wrong. it's the type of thing that hurts trust in our government and when the president approximaputs out the buffett rule, it's not going to negatively impact many, many well off people who do pay their fair share. but it's going to say, that it's not right for people making 10, 20, $40 million to be paying less than what a fireman or police officer is getting when they put in over time or millions middle class families pay in their overall tax rates. that's a policy that the president announced in september. it's one the public supports and one he will talk about tonight in the state of the union. >> is the president going to call for real tax reform tonight in the state of the union? will he play out specifics and suggest that it can be done in year in an election year?
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>> i think you'll see him put out his blue print for the economy and he will be talking about the importance of manufacturin manufacturing of energy, of building the skills. when he talks about fair ness fr all, he will talk about tax reform and he will talk about the buffett rule and he will talk about what we should be doing to also encourage more manufacturing jobs, more jobs to be created on american shores, that benefit our innovation, our productivity and most importantly american families and american jobs. >> gene, is this more of a campaign speech than a governoring speech? have we reached the point where he does not think he can get anything done and he is hoping to get as much support from the viewers and voters as he can here? >> andrea, this is a governoring speech, this is our blueprint for the economy, i can tell you first hand that to economic
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team, these are policies that we have been talking about or working with this president on for quite some time, at least over the last year, if not earlier and this focus on manufacturing, the notion that manufacturing contributes 70% of the private sector research and development and 90% of the patents that it has multiple supplier jobs of course we believe in this and of course this is what drove the president to take the risks he did, political and otherwise, in helping to bring the auto industry back so that now we are creating hundreds of thousands of jobs instead of having potentially lost hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> and gene, among the memos that ryan has written about in the "new yorker," one of your predecessors was arguing for more spending and more stimulus to bring down the unemployment rate that it was not the time to worry about the deficit. do you think there was too much
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concern about budget cutting and not enough stimulus before the first state of the union, that there were missed opportunities to try to inject more into the economy? >> i think my predecessor, larry summers understand that you take strong and bold action, and you had to to it in a context of assuring people that you were going to in the need wrmedium a long-term bring down the debt. if congress would have passed it. it would help to bring back over a million jobs, more than expected this year. and he put forward a balanced plan to bring down our deficits. these are not, these are not contrast. they are compliments, you want to get this economy going. you want to get jobs going. you want to do it in a context where people have confidence in the long-term, america has its
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debt under control and this is the place to invest now and in the place to do your long-term investment for job creation as well. >> we will all be watching tonight, thanks for joining us. joining me now is democratic congressman. we all watched the pageant, one side getting up and the other side getting up, shouting moments of rudeness. what do you anticipate tonight in the chamber so? >> i do not expect moments of rudeness, and i expect the president will layout what he wants to do in the next year and in the future. the president will talk about building the middle class and making sure the american dream is a live and well and that the american people have confidence that their lives will be better
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not worse. he is going to talk about, and i'm excited about this, manufacturing. gene spurling talked about how important manufacturing is to the growth of our economy. we have had an agenda that i call, the make it in america agenda. make it in terms of manufacturing and success. and one of the things that i think the president will clearly talk about is the focus on energy and alternative energies and energy independence. sfwle just ki >> he just killed the keystone pipeline. >> no. no >> delayed it. >> i happen to believe that the president believes it's still very much alive, the people that want to build the pipeline think it alive. they will reapply. he will talk about energy and
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alternative energy and energy independence. he has been focused on that and i think he will talk about the skill sets that our young people and our workers need to be competitive in world markets. >> look at the apple jobs. all of those jobs that we just saw laid out -- >> i thought that "new york times" article was extraordinary. >> it was extraordinary. >> we have people competing with people that are living in a dorm and can be called up in minutes. that is tough. we cannot do it without a plan. we need a manufacturing plan and a make it in america plan. and i think the president will pursue that. >> i want to ask you about th p the -- gabby giffords will be here tonight, what has her courage and fighting spirit told us?
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>> i think that america loves gabby giffords. she is the example of facing adversity with courage, with confidence, and with determination. and i think that is what is going to be reflected on the floor tonight as she will be welcomed tonight and then tomorrow, we are going pass a bill that gabby giffords sponsored that deals with illegal drug being imported. >> that will be part of her legacy. >> that will be part of her legacy and people will say what courage it took to resign, nobody was forcing her out. neither republicans or democrats were suggest ing she resign. gabby clearly felt that that in fairness to the people she represented and fairness to the country that she needed to withdraw and have somebody come in who could pick up the mantel
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and then focus on her rehabilitation. which has been extraordinary to date, i expect it will be extraordinary in the future and we will see a lot of gabby giffords in the future. >> thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> and taxing matter s and the complete coverage of the state of the union address tonight right here on msnbc. >> i would like to hear how he is going to organize the budget and hopefully reduce the defense budget and focus on domestic spending and efforts and jobs of course. [ todd ] hello? hello todd. just calling to let you know
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mitt romney's campaign held
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two conference calls with reporters this morning to try to explain 500 pages of tax documents. virginia governor bob mcdonald has endorsed romney and has been campaigning with him. thanks for joining us. how does this tax issue play in a campaign year when you have high unemployment and people underwater in their houses, romney is trying speak to the concerns of the electorate, but he has been forced to finallily release all of these tax returns and show that, as we would expect, that he made a lot of money and paid 14%, that is less than wage earners are paying. >> he released them a couple months ahead of his original plan, i'm glad he did. let's get it out on the table. he paid 100% of his tax
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liability. and he paid $6 million in taxes and donated $7 million to charity over the last couple of years. the issue on taxes is not his returns, it's what is the right tax policies for america, and i tell you between barack obama continuing to want to raise taxes on people in america and mitt romney having cut taxes in massachusetts and keeping taxes under control as president of the united states, that is the issue in this campaign fwlmcamp. >> on the tax issue, is newt gingrich seizing that he had a half million dollars invested in fanny and freddie? this after making a big deal out of the money that gingrich was earning as a consultant to freddie mac? >> no, i would say, there's a lot of details in there. romney has been successful. he has lived and understand the american dream and wants more team to achieve that.
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if i'm voting for someone for president, i want somebody that was successful and created wrjo and understands what it's like to create the american dream for themselves so he can help others create it. the details in his return are less important. he has copaid the taxes he owes and the bigger question for gingrich to answer is his $1.7 million in earning from freddie mac right before it was getting ready to go down hill, and why is he criticizing the budget and do tv commercials with nancy pelosi pushing for cap and trade. those are bigger issues for the republican voters than romney's tax return. >> why do you think romney has had problems connecting to
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american voters. we saw a more combative romney in the debate last night. how important is it that he stops the bleeding and wins florida? >> i say he connect well in iowa and new hampshire, look at the polls it was a dead heat. he won big in new hampshire. we are disappointed about the performance in south carolina. speaker gingrich had a couple of big debate performances and swayed the outcome down the road. that is three states. we have a long way to go. i think that mitt romney, listen, he is a ceo, can-do conservative and has a record of getting things done that stands in contrast to the speakers. i think that is obvious with an 8% unemployment rate for 35
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months now -- what people want is someone that will create jobs and cut deficits and romney is the guy to do it. >> thanks for being with us, sir. >> okay andrea. >> and a reality check, can the president and congress get anything done? >> the rest of the country especially after south carolina with newt gingrich winning, will wake up and see that negative politics and not cooperating is just not working. the parties must work together. but last year my daughter was checking up on me. i wasn't eating well. she's a dietitian, and she suggested i try boost complete nutritional drink to help get the nutrition i was missing. now i drink it every day and i love the great taste. [ female announcer ] boost has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to help keep bones strong and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. and our great taste is guaranteed or your money back.
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thanks for coming, you watch this every day, and we watch it slightly removed. it seems to me that nothing, nothing is moving through congress, this is one of the most unproductive congresses in history. what are the chances now? >> nothing. the entire year last year was devoted to simply keeping the government operating. i mean, there was several near government shutdowns. we almost went into default and barely avoided that and this year, i don't think that you'll see the president are really layout a big policy agenda for this year, because the chances of getting anything through before the election seems impossible. you know, there's house keeping items that they have to do. like they have to keep the faa open, and do a highway bill, things like that, that they have to still get done. the payroll tax break is set to expire at the end of the month and the president will talk about that tonight as well. if you are looking at a big agenda, it not going to happen,
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it's a grid locked place. >> of course he can layout what seems to be ambitious simply for setting up congress for the fall and setting them up for taking the blame. >> you'll see the president talking about what he has done and what he would like to do. the argument is that they will say they are out to protect the middle class, of course, that is what both sides will be fighting for. those set of voters, but if you are talking about whether they can actually help the middle class, i'm not sure a whole lot before november. >> thank you for joining us. and topping the headlines right here on "andrea mitchell reports," the public is getting a chance to say goodbye today to joe paterno at a viewing on penn state's campus, the closed casket is flachk flanked by foo
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president suggest tonight that will do something about the economy and unemployment and the housing crisis that is fundamental to the struggle we are having with the economy. assemb >> he can talk about the things that the democrats and republicans have in common. for the last three years and probably for the last 50 years, they both agree that we need to have a transportation bill. for every billion spent we create 20,000 jobs. so if the president lays it out as a way of generating jobs and then the republicans move away from it, it proves the point that the president tried to make which means held not cooperate with him under any circumstances. >> isn't that setting up the blame game, saying that the here is something that the republicans say they are not supporting it and you are creating more grid lock.
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>> i think the grid lock is already in place. and the president is trying to make sure we have a level of bipartisanship, even angered democrats that thought he was playing too softly. i'm not one of them on that position but the president has to say, this is what i'm for and historically the republicans have been here too, so why can't we come together. >> you have been creditical in e past of the president. there was a sharp distinction between what mitt romney and newt gingrich had to say about the dream act in florida, where you know, there are a lot of hispanic voters cuban americans tend to be more republican than democrat democratic. >> i would work to get a signable version which would be the military component.
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that part of the dream act i would support, not the part that says everyone that goes to college is waived for having broken the law. >> questioning continues. >> i note that is the same position that i have. i would not sign it as it currently exists but i would sign it if it were focused on military service. >> you were among those that were arrested in protest against the immigration policies the deportation policies of this administrati administration, have you seen any moderating of that? >> i have seen moderation and change and improvement. they finished an evaluation under those under order of deportation, cancelling 15% of them. i think we should take another look at those people. so what the president is doing, he is saying there's a difference between those caught in our system and those that are criminals. if you are a murderer or rapist,
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you are simply a foreigner that we need to get rid of. there are those that have jobs here and have undocumented parents, i'm happy that the administration is looking at the pow powers. so i'm happy he is taking those actions. >> what do you want to hear from him tonight? >> i think what i want to hear, i know that you said earlier that it set ting up the blame game. it the answer, we need to fix our economy. we need to rebuild bridges and roads and those are the kinds of things that any economist will tell you stimulate the economy. look, when barack obama got sworn in as president, you and i know, we are losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month. we are creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.
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so don't say that his policies have not worked whatsoever. if he takes blame or responsibility for the totality, he should also be rewarded for the changes that are taking place. the american public wants to work. i have watched many of the debates. and you know what in tonight believe is the beginning, probably for the president of the united states, this is his moment. they have been in the debate, calling him a muslim and unconstitutional, and they are never correcting them. this is a time to show him as the president of the united states, the american that he is. >> not the food stamp president. >> which of course is the reference that newt gingrich has been making in all of the debates. thank you very much. i know you'll be in the chamber tonight. and we will be watching. the kennedy library has
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released tapes that give a fascinating look into the meetings that he had when planning his campaign for re-election. >> we can make them decide that they want to vote for us democrats and kennedy, appeal obviously as it was 20 years ago, the younger people, party label. what is it that's going to have them go for us. we have to sell prosperity but for the average guy, the prosperity is -- >> bob shrum spent many decades close with the kennedy family. thanks so much, bob, great to see you, these tapes are a window into the mind set of a president that was about to be struck down, it's striking that
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there's parallels with what is going on today. >> john kennedy had a sense of what was going on in the country, in part that was because he was a the first president that was nominated in the primary process. he spent months and months and months out there in close contact with people and then conducted an on going discussion with the american people. and the fact is that governors in times with congress deadlocked, he had a 60% approval rating. it was higher than that than in the south. in the south he had taken a hit because he stood up for civil rights. when you listen to the tapes you feel a sense of what the country lost on november 22nd, 19 sq63. >> the president seemed to preview the themes and tone in his speech in kansas, december,
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december 6th. >> i believe this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, when everyone does their fair share, when everyone plays by the same rules. >> how does that play as a campaign message especially if he is running against mitt romney or newt gingrich? >> well, i think that mitt romney is a perfect book end for that actually. i think the president understands that the big issue here, and it driven by circumstances is whether or not we will have fair economy, who will stand up for the middle class and who will stand up for economic justice. whose side are you on. and you are right, these speeches are inevitable in a political year, and he will have a substantial opportunity to build a economy that lasts but i think he will draw sharp twisha
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lines. >> when you watch the republican's debate, you have been a debate coach and campaign consultant in past lives before being a professor at nyu, what do you see with them going up against each other? >> gingrich himself is a masterful debater. he was dialled back last night. i don't know why. romney has run out of positive arguments for himself. the country is not necessarily interested in having a ceo of the united states, so he is throwing the kitchen sink at gingrich. >> thanks for being with us. and courting evangelical voters, if not santorum, who? wanna know the difference between a trader and an elite trader? it's this... the etrade pro platform. fast. beautiful. totally customizable. finds top performing stocks -- in three clicks. quickly scans the market for new trading ideas.
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craft the 1996 state of the union, will the president take a cue from that address and we will talk about what we can expect tonight. gabby giffords will attend the state of the union and sit in the seat that was left empty for her last year. up next, life here on "news nation." prominent evangelical leaders got together to try to stop mitt romney by endorsing rick santorum, so far it not had much effect, santorum is in the last place in catch and in the polls. tony, thanks very much for being with us, do you have a second choice, a back up to rick santorum if he cannot survive this? >> well, as i stated earlier, i have not endorsed or
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organization or or organization the not endorse, there was a meeting that they looked at the trends and the polls and based upon records, a majority of them voted to pledge their support or indicate their support for rick santorum. i have not, as i talked to some of them, there's not been a follow-up meeting. it has not changed though. they see the race as volatile, with each candidate winning a state. we move to a different part of the race. as that president lays out his political platform. it will add, a new dimension to the debate i think that south carolina, if you look at the exit polling, 80% of those voters in south carolina is watched the debates and the
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debate had a major factor in how they voted. >> and they like newt gingrich. they liked newt gingrich whose record, his past record does not speak to the evangelicals. the reverend dobson was harshly personally critical of newt gingrich and his wife, callista saying she was his mistress for six years, his comment not mine, and that had an influence on the other leaders there. >> i think that was a more passing comment. i don't recall it being discussed. what we did see in south carolina in those debates when the issue was brought up, i was actually there when the question was asked. i think it a legitimate issue that voters have a right to decide, i don't think that it was the format in which those issues should be brought up. it was an awkward moment for those there and newt gingrich did what he has done very well, he turned it around and talked
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about the media. that is an issue that voters connect with. and they saw him coming out, kind of swinging against the establishment and in the end you have to respect the voters of south carolina, and what they decided. now we move to florida and see what happens from there. >> if newt gingrich wins florida, the that effectively end romney's campaign despite his organization and money? would another candidate be someone, would you be looking to fill the vacuum or would you get behind gingrich? where do you see the faith voters going? >> i don't see florida necessarily deciding anything. what we do know now is this is going to be a long nomination process. i think the senate -- the santorum campaign is in it for the long haul. i think that newt gingrich is as well and mitt romney has the resources to go for a long time. so, i think this is going to be
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a very hotly contested nomination process. which i think is going to be healthy. we are going to have lots of debate and a lot of differences brought up. >> tony per kins co s coming t today from baton rouge. plus res. it's the only listerine® that gets teeth two shades whiter and makes tooth enamel two times stronger. get dual-action listerine® whitening rinse. building whiter, stronger teeth.
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i'm going to watch the state of the union. i'm interested to see what he has to say about the economy and the state of jobs. >> which political story will make headlines in the next 24
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hours? chris cillizza, the president coming here, delivering his third state of the union. we're going to have all of these symbolic guests. in the first lady's box you'll have warren buffets assistant. you'll have the widow of steve jobs. this goes back to the tradition of the ronald reagan started. that has now become a state of the union tradition and a slight cliche. it's very special with mark kelly. >> absolutely. i would say, look, this is a speech the president is projecting beyond the chamber. the american people is the audience, not congress. i think putting people in the first lady's box, referencing
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them, it allows any president to connect or try to connect with average people's lives. it's hard to give a speech to a room of people, at least half of whom are not favorably disposed to you because of your party affiliation. he's trying to connect beyond the room bringing every day stories of heroism a. >> our thoughts are with senator mark kirk. he is recovering from a stroke. his bipartisan seat mate will have his seat open for him in the chamber tonight. thank you very much. we'll be watching. we'll do it again tomorrow. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell report reports". we'll have a complete wrap of the president's state of the union. my colleague craig melvin has a
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look at what's next on "news nation." any minute newt gingrich is expected to hold a rally in florida. he threatened to pull out any future debate if the audience can't participate. i'll talk to steve dade who is credited with helping get romney defeated back in 2008. one of the chief architects of president clinton's state of the union is with me. "news nation" just minutes away. i love that my daughter's part fish. but when she got asthma, all i could do was worry ! specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... and my hands were full. i couldn't sort through it all. with unitedhealthcare, it's different. we have access to great specialists, and our pediatrician gets all the information. everyone works as a team. and i only need to talk to one person about her care. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare.
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that's how it is with alzheimer's disease. she needs help from me. and her medication. the exelon patch -- it releases medication continuously for twenty-four hours. she uses one exelon patch daily for the treatment of mild to moderate alzheimer's symptoms. [ female announcer ] it cannot change the course of the disease. hospitalization and rarely death have been reported in patients who wore more than one patch at a time. the most common side effects of exelon patch are nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. the likelihood and severity of these side effects may increase as the dose increases. patients may experience loss of appetite or weight. patients who weigh less than 110 pounds may experience more side effects. people at risk for stomach ulcers who take certain other medicines should talk to their doctor because serious stomach problems such as bleeding may worsen. people with certain heart conditions may experience slow heart rate. [ woman ] whenever i needed her, she was there for me. now i'm here for her. [ female announcer ] ask the doctor about your loved one trying the exelon patch. visit to learn more.
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i'm craig melvin in for tamron hall today. preparing a message for the middle class. "news nation" is following president obama before he delivers his third state of the