but i'll be the first, because the t-bank app suggested who to invite. invite a friend to apply for a black card before june 30 and get up to 3,000 rubles. t-bank, there's only one like it. beyond the pale. in our studio, shedding bitter tears, alsu eliseeva from the chelyabinsk region , together with her son alexander, begged for help in restoring justice. her daughter, a mother of many children, was accused of offering a casual acquaintance 100,000 rubles so that he would rid her of her disobedient twelve-year-old daughter, took the girl to the river and drowned her. and this can't be, because she's not like that, she's not capable of it. how can you even offer 100 to a person, even to someone you barely know? just like that, just tell him to kill a child, well, that's just, well , that can't be. the killer

agreed to carry out the order, but only in order to save the girl, he took her to his home and called the police. the investigative committee opened a criminal case under the article incitement to commit murder of a minor for selfish reasons. the man's acquaintance nikolai vydrin called his hero. he got his bearings right away, he saved, i think he acted, well, courageously, fairly, and the opinions of the experts in the studio were divided. some sided with the man, others suspected, perhaps the girl herself ...

propped up the house and tried to burn it down. she still insists that her daughter is innocent. in the studio is the mother of the accused alsu eliseeva. hello, alsu. hello. what has changed in your daughter's case since our first meeting. but she is also in pre-trial detention. and i became a guardian on the fourth four children, one of whom is a disabled child. for a period of 6 months. mom came back home because she wants to, and the children are waiting for her, especially the little one, she asks every day, where is mom, she knows that she had to go for an operation, we say that she is in the hospital, when, she says, will she come, but i hope that she will return to the children for her own, and the children will be with her, you live with your granddaughters in your daughter's house, well, for now yes, but i want to go to my place there next week, because i also have my own house there...

abandoned remained, while i go there with them, until everything is resolved, in what condition is the granddaughter in whose case your daughter was accused? is she normal, i told her, i say, oksan, you tell everything as it is, she also says, i tell everything, everything , everything, everything, mom will still come back to us, but does she communicate or has she withdrawn, well, sometimes she is not in the mood, did you talk frankly with your granddaughter about what happened?

does the realization come that everything that happened to your daughter may turn out to be true? no, after program you were able to meet with the man who said that your daughter ordered your granddaughter, i did not meet him, after the program was aired, the same neighbor who, as you think, slandered your daughter, decided to tell us himself what happened, today he came to our studio andrey altynov, hello, everyone, hello, andrey,

andrey, what made you come to us today? i just looked when the program was aired, that's when the brother said ёшний, that's when the mothers said, they just talked such nonsense, first of all. for me, well, it touched me, affected me, well, and i decided to talk to them, they said such things about me there, well, just like he cut his father there, burned his wife there, as if it didn’t happen, i had a case, the house burned down, but i was there alone, my wife wasn’t there at that moment, pregnant, no, she was pregnant, we already had a son, but she was with her sister in magnitogorsk in the city, not in this one, not in the burnt house, no, well, and in general the whole situation, as if i’m ready to answer any questions, they just don’t believe me, as if well they are also there now in the village, as far as i know, but no one came to me, no one would ask any questions, well, i am ready to answer any questions, tell everyone the situation itself, how, well, how it really was, and what do you think, why didn’t they come to you, it means they are not interested, probably, just, well, if i had some kind of question , yes, serious, especially concerning my children, i would, for example, in any case, go to any person, no matter who would ask it, well

was, wasn't, how in general, well, that's how it happened that you met in our studio, alsu, are you seeing each other for the first time today, what question would you like to ask andrey first? well, how did it all happen actually , it was evening, we just have a lot of shops in the village, we are in a living settlement and they all work until 80, the shop where we met, that is, it is located at the far end, it is the only one that works until nine in the evening, i was at home after work, i came and wanted to fry some meat well i went there for shashlik , everything was ready, it turns out she and her daughter bought their goods ahead of me, they went out , that is, i went in, took what i needed , i rode my bike, went out to...

what can this do, i say, well, i can if i pay, well, why not, she, well, let's go, i'll show you what needs to be done, i say, well, let's go, while we were walking home, we talked like this, what's their name, where are they from, well, i don't know them, i saw her a couple of times before in kindergarten, i was taking my son to kindergarten , she was some kid, my daughter or something, well, you know, hello, hello, well , nothing more, and we were walking all this time together with the girl, and the three of us came home there, well, to their yard, we went behind the house, there was a bench, by the way, i sat down on the bench, and what should i do, the yard is clean under... the whole chick, that is, nothing needs to be done, what should i do? she started to invent there already, well , like making some beds there, i say, what do you mean, a gardener, what beds are there, and this girl was also on the street, she kept yelling at her, there go home here and there, that girl left, okay, that's it, i sat down on the bench, she was walking around standing here,

and you know, she started asking questions like, you're a convicted person in the past, not a convicted person there, i say, so what, and for what, for murder, no, i don't have a conviction, i say, well, what difference does it make to you what i'm convicted for, it's my life, my problems, why did you call me, tell me there, well, and then we started talking more, she says: do you want to earn money? i say, well, naturally, that's why i came here, in principle, what did you suggest? she says: get rid of my daughter, i say, i don't understand, how to understand, get rid of? she says: well, kill her, i say, are you normal at all, no, like, well, well, like a child, i just like, well , not that i was confused, well, so unexpectedly, she straight out, she said so, kill her, yes, right in the forehead, here i was sitting like this, that's it... she was standing in front of me, she says, well, kill her here and there, throw her in the river there, i say, no-no, i this, well, i went, what's going on, what the hell, i went out, i have a bag of meat here, i took the bike, well, i walked away from the gate, i see, she comes out, stood on the fence, stands there, i think, well, is this really true or not, well, what's going on

, let me figure it out to the end, i put the bike on the fence, went in, i say, what does she say, here's 100,000 here and there, i say, no, no need for 100,000, give me ten dollars, well, i think, will she give or not give money, is it true or not, well, what did she suggest, did you want to check? yes, she says, let's kill her, take a picture, in short, throw her in the river, that's it take a photo and bring me the photos and show them to me, i'll give you the money right away, i tell her, well, come on, bring your daughter in and i'm standing there, in short, well, i'm afraid to go into the yard, well, you never know what she visited her there, well, if she asks to kill her child, this already says that there is absolutely no understanding in her head, and why did you tell her to bring her daughter out, well, in general , to check to the end whether she will bring her out or not , is she being a fool or not, well, how can i understand what at all? that's it, she went home, i think, maybe now she will call somewhere, maybe something there, well i don’t know at all what ’s going on, i followed her, i got the porch here into the house, the door opens there, i she calls her by name, and comes here, dresses her there, throws something on her, i don’t remember, go for a walk with my uncle, that’s all, i’m there with money on the porch in general, well what, well she,

that is, already gives her daughter, that is, this already says that, everything, well that is, you understand, i told her, let me do it, that is, she lets me kill her, everything, that is, you understand that her intention is serious, her daughter came out scared. i say, it's so and so, i told her straight to her face, i say, do you hear, your mother asked me to kill you, what's going on? she says, i heard, i say, that's it, send it to me, and she had a phone in her hand, what state was she in? well, at first she was like, well, kind of confused , at first calmly when we went out onto the veranda i say , don't be afraid, come with me, i'll take you away from here , then we'll figure it out there, that is, she started crying , no, it wasn't she who started crying, i say, don't cry, i hugged her, i say, don't cry, everything's fine that's all i didn't have my phone with me she had a phone in her hand i say let me call my wife well where can i call for protection or where just what in general she says i have no money or internet i say well that's it come with me don't be afraid i won't hurt you let's go to my house i have a wife kids at home everything we got out from there it turns out we're walking there's a street, well we turn around, and there on the left side there's a private store,

i know them very well, i look, there are cars parked there, they're getting out of there, that's it, i come up there, vanya is like that, i say, vanya, and so on so, that's how it is, i say where should i call, vanya says, let me call the local police officer, i say, call , he called the local police officer, he says, that's it, the local police officer, he'll be here soon, well, that's it, she's at my house, wait , he tells it differently, and they told me that they didn't meet that way, that she went into a store and asked the salesperson for some... drove back and forth, they bring her there, she, that is, already changed, she goes in there

, they ask her, do you know him, she says, no, this is the first time i've seen him, i don't know him at all, who is this guy looking at me, i'm sitting there thinking, how do you leave for the store, there are cameras everywhere, there are cameras on the street, there are cameras in the store, there are cameras there, even ones that don't just film, but that record your voice, we went and looked, these cameras confirmed your words, but i don't know, did they look, they didn't, they don't tell me either, well, she's dressed up, i say, well, she wasn't dressed like that, not how she was dressed, well , i explain it there. probably because she saw him for the first time, everything is correct, she

everyone around confirmed it, i don’t even know, andrey, if she invited him as a master, that she doesn’t know and even talked to him about it badly, they didn’t agree, so how can she say that she knows him, of course, she didn’t know him, she could say so, she saw him for the first time that day, lyudmila, that is, you are also confused by andrey’s story, even now u... started talking, and i already see inconsistencies, firstly, i want to say that the people who were in places of imprisonment, in general, i say, in general, they are very good understand the criminal code better than others, so when a person says, he is now saying that she wore a leather jacket like this, which no one here wears, and she did, that means he knows her, that means he saw her, that means it was not the first meeting, i agree with my colleague that yes, in places of imprisonment,

it will be assessed as he wanted, he is an accomplice, he tried, and then changed his mind, he is in a difficult situation now, he took, as if the money and the whole dock, he also put it on himself, and he from them, yes you what, i don't need money, i'm leaving , to be honest, this already alerted me on the last program, andrey, why didn't you just turn around, run away, why did you take the money, basically confirm the fact, as if you agreed to this order? money or you didn't take the money, i didn't take any money, she said, when i told her, i said, don't give me a hundred, ten, she told me, bring

me proof, photos, i'll give you the money, that's it, i left, i didn't take any money, there are two points here, firstly, all our police know me very well, that is, i am not capable of such a thing, and what articles do you have, there was the 105th, i was locked up under it for being a taxi driver, there was no attempt, there was an incomplete murder, well there was 105, i was acquitted at the trial, rehabilitated, that is, i received a cash payment for... i haven't received it yet, i have to receive it. and what articles did you serve time under? robbery, robbery. well, you started talking about the fact that, firstly, because everyone knows you, and you were not afraid go with the girl, and secondly, well, just the situation. just to clarify whether it's true or not, when the police arrived, they said: well, we'll probably give her back to her mother, i said, it doesn't matter to me , she asked for it herself, take me to the orphanage, i'm afraid to go to my mother, let's andrey, we'll talk to your wife to find out what she remembers about that terrible day, today she came to us, anastasia boltinkova, hello,

when... oksana came to the door, in what state was she, tearful, confused, well, she was stressed, she was even afraid to go. don't you think that your husband could have scared her like that? no, what characterization can you give him as a father? well, a positive one. andrey, well, you're sitting so modestly, maybe you can tell me what kind of father you are? the children will grow up and tell you. i noticed on the last program that you are a young father, that's why your heart ached so much for oksana. i don't know, i just found this situation interesting, well, really, i didn't know what to do, and we were probably two months before this, yes, in brytsentr we went to kizil, we went to the police station, well, there we talked about the moment, there our son mishka was acting up in the kindergarten, well, they called him in for a talk , that is, we talked at the police station, then this girl who works there as a police officer, that is, she called her on the phone,

that's how it turned out later, now we know this, at that moment we didn't know, that is, do you remember that moment, she called her. a crime that my child, my daughter, my loved one there, couldn't commit such a thing, but they actually commit it, secondly, if a person lives early conviction in a small, especially district, all the operational services know him, they know whether he can commit or not, why he is so confident, because the operatives know that this vanya, he will not commit murder,

yes, he may steal bread or commit robbery, but he has no murder, so i can tell you for sure that the operatives, andrei did the right thing by taking the child, he took a certain risk, why could the mother call, report the kidnapping of the child, she did not did, and this indirectly speaks in favor of andrey, that he is telling the truth, let's say, another point, andrey does not take the child, goes to the police, says that he was asked to commit murder, a crime, then both the mother and the girl with whom she worked. the mother denies it, what next? andrey is accused under article 306, knowingly false denunciation, simply if he had not taken the girl, he would not have proven this very important point, that the mother did not report the kidnapping of the child, which means she, indirectly, can be assumed that she agreed with the fact that the girl went with andrey, anna, you wanted to add, please tell me, you asked your granddaughter

how she went, why she went with an uncle, with an unfamiliar uncle, she told me that she went for a walk, with whom? look, why didn't your daughter call the guardianship authorities or the police and say that the girl, her daughter, was kidnapped by some unknown man, unless she herself voluntarily let her go with him, i don't know, i told you two or three days ago, yes, i told you, i'm telling you, you know who i met, i didn't know that she was in i came to the village with my grandmother, i went to the store, in the evening i went with my son with mishka, i was walking from the store and she ran out of the bushes right at me. at first i didn’t understand that it was her, then she said hi, i hopped and looked at her, but she, i said hi, and what about you, how are you even here in the village, she says, here’s my grandmother who took us here and there, now we live here, she tells me, she comes up to me, i walk away from her, i say, don’t come near me, don’t come near me at all, to hell with it, in short, i say, do you miss your mom, she says, well, there is a little bit, i say, how are things with grandma, it’s fine, nothing offends her, no, well, she asks me, is it possible to somehow

replay this, in short, the situation, i say, in the sense of replaying, i say, no, i will not replay anything, like, well and... i understand perfectly well that it is within my power, because i am the main witness for the prosecution, in fact, that is, she asked you to change your testimony, not that she asked, she led you to this, for her 12 years, you know how literate she is, and what do you think, she does this she came up with it herself at the age of 12 or she was taught to ask, i don't know, maybe her grandmother, i say no, i won't do anything, i told her how it was and i won't make up anything, firstly i don't need problems, hemorrhoids are like that because of you, they pull me here and there, i also understand the position absolutely, alsu, you didn't have such dialogues with your granddaughter, didn't ask her to come to what no, no? and you knew that she met with andrey after everything that happened, i can explain this from the point of view that they don't have a trusting relationship with grandma, now you say that you already communicate with your granddaughter? with you, you still can't answer the main question, how does a girl go with a stranger, where is she going, why is she going, why is she going, considering what andrey just told us,

that the girl heard that they wanted to kill her, and she told me that i made it up, i say, i didn't hear, oh, i didn't hear any conversation, then why did she go, if she heard, then it's quite understandable that she just scared.

mom wanted to kill you, i went for a walk with a strange twelve-year-old girl on the street at night, i know something to such an extent that the girl's grandmother is silent about it, i know everything perfectly well, both about this girl and about this family. i was simply shocked why alsu was silent and did not say anything about her daughter. we will find out after a short pause.

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the devices. selfdogs vision: help your eyes! what's your name? dubrovsky, and is he still hanging around, wherever he wants? of course not? well, i can't, i'm just sitting around doing nothing, what's going on? yes, it looks like a murder, we're getting to the perpetrator, the perpetrator is leading us to the customer, classic, can you help with the composite sketch? you'll get off with the minimum, you'll give your word, the officer's word, who is he, a little nickname, a killer, a suspect in a cell already , time is working against us, well, yes, a dolphin, that's when we'll get him, today at 8:00 pm on ntv, beyond the pale, that's beyond the pale, her daughter was accused of ordering a neighbor to kill her twelve-year-old

daughters, only a woman. we don't know how the girl left, we don't know if she was afraid of her mother or not, this is purely hypothetical, we can assume, we don't know what kind of relationship the mother had with her daughter, because when a mother unconditionally loves her child, there are situations when in a fit of emotion she can say, i'm ready to kill you, you're getting on my nerves, i want to sleep, leave me alone, but at the same time she doesn't stop loving him, if you think that the mother didn't order the murder

of her daughter, then why is andrei doing everything this? said, well , there can be different situations, can i tell you a version, yes, colleagues, look, what version i have, the girl had a fight with her mother, this is a common thing, we are all parents, we fight very often, a small village, the girl had a fight , went out with her uncle just for a walk, really by herself, maybe she didn’t even hear something or heard something, then the man for some reason takes her with him and tells her, mom wanted to kill you, did they call? the guardianship authority, the police came, in this case he got scared, and i want to say that because for all these actions he has two articles hanging on him: firstly, it is slander article 128 with the icon one, he accused the mother of preparing or inciting her, yes, well, i am just telling you one version of the investigation, and he accuses her of hiring him to commit a serious crime.

this is already part four, this is already up to 5 years, this is the first article, while he is talking to the girl, he tells her that come on now your mother wanted to kill you, your mother is bad. a question for you, what do you think, i have an instinct self-preservation, i had a twelve-year-old girl i was walking with at night on the street, i am at such a level, or something, i apologize for the expression, but you are talking such nonsense, just like my grandmother did with my brother, she talked him into it, are you out of your mind, a twelve-year-old girl, i had such a version , my grandmother had such a version , they answer victoriously last time, alsu, i

think, voiced the version that the girl talked andrey into slandering, i would also like to say that the court does not arrest for no reason, which means there is some initial evidence, which are indisputable at the moment, this evidence formed the basis of the initial accusation, this is firstly and... the court, excuse me, but they are not stupid people at all, and they will not take such risks for the sake of some village case in order to risk their reputation and absolutely nothing to arrest a person, especially since this is connected with the murder of a minor, of course, the investigative bodies and the judicial bodies carefully approached this, i want us not to forget this either, absolutely right, a woman says, look, a lieutenant colonel, a forensic expert, a seasoned uncle, came from chelyabinsk from the department to figure out how... when and after he had figured it out completely, they locked her up, anastasia, andrey brought oksana to your home, how did she behave? well, she was crying, she said,

so and so, i heard everything, well, a conversation with mom with uncle andrey, i say, what did you hear there, mom said, drown me, she here, well, started crying and i started crying, i felt sorry for her, i say, how many of you are there? i say, we'll call now, we'll continue that's it, then when we were sitting and talking, she says: i want to go to an orphanage, i don't want to go home, to figure it out, al su, that she could say that, and why then did she ask, when she was in the orphanage, for her mother to take her,

well, my daughter told me, she says, call me, when will you take me, take me quickly, when she told you, well, like on the phone, she was still at home, i was there in my city, andrey, and what's strange about you, she seemed to tell you everything, any question you... ask, regarding their family, that is, her, your daughter, your grandchildren, you couldn’t answer a single question, what are they, how are they there, you don’t know absolutely anything about them, absolutely nothing at all, just like i don’t know, that is, for me they are an outside family, i don’t know anything about them, just like you, you don’t know anything about them, take any grandmother who communicates with her daughter and her grandchildren, she will tell everything for them that even a mother can’t tell, and you didn’t answer one question, which i didn’t answer, where is he? by the way, he... unlike you, very wants to talk to you, he came to our studio, alexander eliseev. hello, alexander, you're a freak, right? i'm talking, normally please, unlike you,

what? and what do you know about me, i mean unlike you, i mean unlike me? come on, come on, sit down, let's talk, let's talk, i'm adequate, are you adequate, when did you meet her with my sister, in the store? where did you go there to her where she lived to see where she was she needed to dig up potatoes in the yard not to buy potatoes she asked something to transfer there something well and then immediately there was a conversation she suggested to you as if you sat down talked got to know each other where from she says here from yuburg moved here and there and then everything and then as things go on as things go on as she suggested to you that you could kind of drown my daughter yes at first she asked me what i was in prison for i didn't tell her what for look you yourself you yourself are a person who was in prison are you trying to drown my sister for what a mother of many children? how it was, i said how it was, how well tell me again, she suggested to me, you want to earn money, i say, yes i do, what should i do, what happened next, you left, she ran after you, or did you take her right away, why initially, the first time when i went out, your sister came out after me, well, she was just

standing, i walked away, i think, maybe this is not nonsense, everything and then continued the conversation with her, she gave it to me, go for a walk with your uncle, that's all i went, and how did she go for a walk with your uncle, she had some kind of quarrel, she exactly what did she tell you oksana? maybe some kind of quarrel happened same thing. it happens with children and parents, i'm talking about a theory, maybe andrey is talking about the fact that your sister suggested that he kill his daughter, i definitely don't believe that, but why is andrey talking like that, well if all this happened, you, what happened next, you went to the police, yeah, yeah, they called, bye, yeah, and what did they say, well okay, everything i explained to them about the situation, that's it, they took you away, they didn't offer to do anything further, didn't put a microphone on you, or a camera, they just kind of let you go home, yeah, that's it, i went home, you yourself understand what it is, what it is. so it was, it turns out, everything now about my sister,

that the investigation is being conducted on the basis of only you, right, yes, my testimony, of course, and that now any person can not oksanka 's testimony, what oksana told you, she wants to see her mother, she misses her, she is very happy, she was happy that this whole situation is now being clarified, last time you said that perhaps andrei blackmailed your sister, do you still think so, maybe, yes, blackmail on what basis, well and the money, alexander, alsu, i want you now... to try to talk to andrey, do you have any specific questions for him that will help you clarify the picture of what happened? and what, i don’t know, what other questions could there be, it’s just that everything is still unclear, there were 10,000, there weren’t, the words of just one person, well, based on one person’s words, to put a mother of many children in jail, you talk about incomprehensible things, but you don’t ask questions, but nevertheless after the last program was released, we were contacted your relative, who just happens to have.

years in danger, do you understand this or not, my soul is torn apart,

like a mother's, if it were not for my grandmother, these five children would have been dead long ago, her daughter was deprived of parental rights, led a moral lifestyle, she has no maternal feelings, she has no maternal feelings, how many times have i met her on the street, she is walking with a stroller with her third child in her arms holding alcohol, marina alsu says that her daughter... stopped leading a moral lifestyle and began a good mother, she is a mother, she protects her child, i know everything from the inside out, that she has been corrected for 10 years, she is exaggerating, you started with the fact that alsu was getting it from her own daughter, what did you mean? yes, i met her once, she had a black eye, that's not true, marina, when she me, yes how would she me, yes i myself would have been the first to deal with her, you told me once, when you came home,

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directly to oksana herself. alsu, do you mind if we talk to her? no. your granddaughter in the studio with psychologist tatyana vargul. hello, oksana. hello. oksana. you are in a good mood now, tell me, i know that now you live with your grandmother, with your sisters, are you happy about it? yes, what is your relationship with your grandmother? good, how does she take care of you? good, she takes care of you. by the way, what is your relationship with your sisters? good with everyone. and how was your life when you moved to the village? were you happy? well, yes, it is calmer there. and did you tell your mother that you were glad that you moved? i didn’t say, well, did you discuss it with your sisters? well, yes, there was, i think you probably had friends in the city, you missed them, yes, in the village you managed to meet someone, make friends, well

, yes, i communicate with many, the guys accepted you well, well , at first somehow not very much, but then they got used to me, well, you are such a sociable girl, well, yes, and mom found new friends in the village, well, not really that many, well, some, they came to visit you, or mom, maybe, went somewhere to them for a walk, well, yes, mom... went to the saleswoman to visit too, andrey, anastasia, have you ever seen her before all the events? no, are you ready to talk about what happened, i don't really want to, just tell me the main thing, do you miss your mother? yes, what would you like to tell her? what i wanted to tell her, but that i love her very much, i want her to come back, and for you all to live together again? yes, would it be better for you with your mother or with your grandmother? well, i think with your mother. well, should your grandmother stay with you in the family or can she leave? well, your grandmother has her own farm, her own house, so it's better,

well, to herself, probably, it will be calmer for her. but will you cope without her? if with mom, then yes. oksana, thank you for coming to us today. let's let you go for now, we'll talk to your grandmother a little more. svetlana, what impression did oksana make on you? what she said, which i don't want to discuss, on the one hand, i understand that she is a daughter, first and foremost a daughter, and she really misses her mom, and of course she would like everything to be different from how it turned out, that's the phrase she said andrey, is it possible to replay everything, for some reason it seems to me that it is exactly like when you make a wish, like before going to bed or something else. how great it would be, if everything, everything were different, it seems to me that it is just painful for her, it is just painful, but she is a good girl, ilona, did it seem to you

sincere that the girl spoke about her mother? firstly, it seemed to me that the girl is very smart, secondly, she looks like an intriguer, but i still got the impression that she does not understand a little now, if she tells everything, will she help or not help mom, so she refrained from commenting. alexey, do you agree with ilona about the intriguer? yes, i agree. and in general, from practice, children who quarrel, come to us, for example, to the police, complain, but some time passes , two or three weeks, they heal early, forget how they were scolded, how they were beaten up, they then, please, let my parents go, so i agree with ilona, she has an inner core that plays, i looked at her psychologically, she can twist everything to forget, now she regrets, and i agree that in andrey she came. "let's reverse this by 180°, i will forget everything, my mother is good, as a rule, they come running, let

them go, please, they complain, well please, but andrey should be led on"? to refuse, no, of course, to lead to the end, he knows what the consequences and giving false testimony are fraught with. tatyana, what can you say about the girl's condition? at first she was just as constrained, and naturally, she does not really want to open it all up and disclose. regarding conflicts with her mother, she says: of course, they happen, she didn't draw me a rainbow mother, but she's not a bad mother, and i'm not nasty. that's what all this gossip is about now, i say. i listen, i read, everything is not so, i did tests with her, drawing tests, where you can't deceive, here's a picture, who you sit to the left of you, look what's there, and this is like a table behind, this is a table on it, a cake, there's a candle in it 13 years, this is what we fantasize about a future birthday, mom is sitting next to her to the left,

then on the right, and who will you seat here, she seated her sister, but because of some rumor about him she invites him to the festive table, any child wants mom and dad to be there, i asked about grandma, grandma, she says: grandma is good, i love grandma, but mom is closer, mom is dearer, that is , she trusts mom, she trusts mom, did you talk to her about what happened, of course, what was possible to find out , what she told, that day,

yes, they met - in the store. yes, and mom brought him home, that is, for her he is already at the level of this reptilian brain, a stranger, he is no longer a stranger to her, they were doing something there, and then she says that he said that she urgently needs to leave with him, that he will save her, she does not understand how true this is, i say, wait, but you heard it yourself, she says: no, i did not hear it. my uncle told me about it, she went with him, and how does she explain that she was scared, but nevertheless went with andrey, well, he told her that he would lead her to save her, there is a wife and children, she did not know what to do, and you know, at 12 years old, if they tell me something like that, i do not know what i would have done, and why did not she run to her mother, they left the house, but she could have gone back, said, there is some guy saying that you want

to kill me, and he held her back, she could have, she had already fallen under his charm. now does she believe that her mother ordered her murder? no, she is very scared, what if suddenly everyone says that this is so, well then, by and large, the picture of the world is simply destroyed, and if it turns out that this is true, how can the girl live on, tatyana? you have to work with the girl. dmitry, and if it is proven that the mother really ordered the murder of her own daughter, will she be deprived of parental rights? 100%, of course, of course, that's not even the question. she will have real imprisonment, there is no way to avoid it, this category of crimes is considered especially serious, the punishment there is from 8 to 20 years of imprisonment, in exceptional cases even life imprisonment is allowed, but considering that she has many children, minors, including hers, mitigating, no aggravating circumstances, no criminal record, that is, yes, no criminal record, not registered, therefore i think that

the provisions of article 64 will probably be applied to her and... i am ready to prove to the whole country that the mother of many children, whom he met in a village store, really tried to hire him as a killer for her own daughter. did the accused tell you to kill her daughter and drown her in the river? yes, the accused offered you 100 thousand to carry out the murder of her daughter. yes. the sensors record andrey's reactions to each question. the man continues to answer calmly and confidently. did you really plan

to carry out this order, to kill the accused's daughter? no. did you somehow agree with oksana to put her mother in prison? no, did you somehow blackmail oksana's mother? no, do you have any intent? to slander oksana's mother, no. andrey, was this your first test in your life on a polligraph? yes. were you worried? well, not that i was worried, as if, in general, i don’t know, i’ve never encountered it. anastasia, are you worried about the results of this test? are you sure about your husband? are you ready to find out the truth? yes. what will the polygraph test show? is the failed killer telling the whole truth? and also a dna test for a mother and daughter from udmurtia. on the air of the dna program , they heard the name of the man from whom the daughter, according to her, gave birth to a boy 17 years ago, however, the sisters of the alleged father assured that, in addition to the son, with whom the relationship has already been confirmed, the brother has no other children, we will find out in a minute

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on our family, father, he does not look like the supposed one, i open the envelope, dna, today at 17:50 on ntv. beyond the pale, this is beyond the pale, the man assures that a neighbor with many children asked him to kill her twelve-year-old daughter, and to prove that he says the truth, he passed the lie detector test. let's find out what the polygraph test showed, i invite oleg baryshev to the studio. hello, oleg. hello, hello. oleg, were there any problems working with andrey? he tried to be honest, he answered the main questions honestly. well, there is, you know, there is not fundamentally distorted information, or inaccurate information on secondary issues, that is, he tells the truth about the main events, he tells the truth according to the algorithm of the situation, there is on... the polygraph

the so-called uncertain result, it is connected with several issues, well, for example, the issue with money, according to him , what can you believe in him, definitely, that the offer itself was stressful for him, that is, the offer to him from the accused, i confirm the fact of such an offer, i will support his phrase with some jargon that he was kind of stunned by such an offer and even decided to double-check it in his own way, as if he began... to bargain over money, did the thought flash through his head, to agree to the offer to take money? it was n't that he was taking money specifically for carrying out the massacre, or for killing the girl, on the one hand he went for it, for a money conversation, in order to check whether this woman was communicating with him adequately or inadequately, and that's the reaction...