welcome everyone, us, israeli genocide in the gaza trip has led to unimaginable misery for palestinian civilian population there, and since it's very onset in october of 2023, the palestinian people, resistance and their allies have been pushing for a sease fire and an end to the barbaric targeting of gaza's civilian population. now while we have yet to see any sense of urgency from us in israely leadership in accepting or implementing a ceasefire.

and not through un resolutions, not through mediated efforts have we seen tel aviv or washington signal that too many innocent women and children are being killed in gaza, and just this year a multi-phase deal was greed upon and implemented, one which the israelis with the trump administration abruptly cancelled and resumed the campaign of genocide, and the us president's west asia envoy now, steve witkoff has another true offer to put an end to the bloodshed, one we will dissect and discuss in today spotlight program, but first let's watch this report. this is the moment an israeli air strike hit a building in gaza city, like countless attacks on the palestinian territory since october 2023, it is caused significant damage, but gaza has become synonymous with damage, destruction and death, and all efforts to bring an end to the genocidal war against palestinians have failed, and now another ceasefire proposal has been put forward, this...

time by us special envoy to the west asia region, steve witkof. critics say it's just a time out for israel's war machine. meanwhile, hamas demands guarantees the genocide against palestinians won't continue. let's take a look at the critical gaps between the us mediated with cough plan and the hamas counter offer. the first difference is wouldkof propos a 60- days fire while hamas wants guarantees to a deal that would lead to permanent cease fire. second is the captive's release. witkov asked for batches of captives for temporary pauses like the fail 2023 deal, while hamas demands gradual releases only if israel fully withdraws from the gaza territory, learning from past betrayals hamas wants no more open-ended pauses on humanitarian aid and reconstruction. witkov proposed israel control the aid flow like the current starvation siege, while hamas asked for a three to five year rebilding plan without this gaza stays in israel's chokehold, and on military withdrawal, the true...

colonial spirit shows its head. witkov proposed the gradual withdraw of israeli soldiers north than south, but hamas demands a full and immediate withdrawal from day one. hamas won't repeat past mistakes where ceasefires became cover for reoccupation. on the post war gaza plans. witkop was wake on governance with us katar overside, while hamas asked for technocratic administration and independent governance for five to seven years. hamas presents detailed political end game. bosam naim, a member of the hamas political bureau, has said the us framework doesn't respond to any of the palestinian people's demands. naim said the new proposal provided guarantees neither for 60-day cease fire and the transportation of humanitarian aid into gaza, nor for an end to the war, a permanent cease fire or the withdrawal of the israeli army. the essence of the israeli response is the perpetuation of occupation and the continuation of death and famine even during a temporary cease fire. this proposal.

fails to address any of our people's demands, foremost among them ending the war and famon. although the proposal failed to meet hamas demands, the group responded in a positive and responsible way. the us side, however, deplored the hamas response with witkov saying on his social media account later that it is totally unacceptable and only takes us backward. hours after ritkov's remark, israel's minister for military affairs said he has ordered the army to push ahead with its fight against hamas, regardless of any. negotiations, this is yet another proof that hamas has every right to be cautious about real intentions behind any u.s. back ceasefire proposal and ensure that its eligible demands are met. many believe that the ultimate goal of the us and israel is to dismantle hamas and its governance in gaza and take over the palestinian territory, the land that has always belonged to palestinians and now for our guests. we have miss joining us.

political analyst for lebanese capital beirot. and mr. sakina datsu, author, journalist and producer joining us from london. hello and i like to welcome you both to the program, i guess mr. risk, we'll start with you. uh, good evening uh, sir out there in beyroot, hope you're safe and doing well, now that january uh ceasefire that we had uh mr. risk, it was working and it stopped uh working partly, but not not holy, but partly due to uh us deciding to propose an extension of 60 days for uh to get more captives out of gaza while not giving the palestinians anything uh basically this while the deal with. enter a second phase you very well know which would have involved uh some to some point more withdraw of occupation forces from gaza, more aid getting in and more importantly talks on a permanent end to the uh to the genocide in gaza. you're opening take on why we're right back at a 60-day offer by

the us? well, i think that there was before that... sometimes they have reached some sort of an agreement of a ceast fire in gaza. who broke this is fire that time by then, but now how can the hamas leaders trust the words of the the mediators, all the mediators who are not responsible and showed no responsibility of respecting or... accepting the terms or the wishes of hamas leaders inside gazza, so that's why i think that the cease fire that they are asking for now or they are talking about is for 60 days, is nothing but a maneuver to release more hostages and after

they reach their goal to release all all the hostages from gaza, i think that they are going to do a very brutal operation against. the civilians in gaza, killing or eliminating every single person in gaza after that, so who can who can give the guarantee or can guarantee that such a massicre of two million people in gaza won't happen by the israelis with the help of their allies, so that's why the hamas now is asking for a permanentcy fire, rebuilding plans and full opening. of the passages of you know to for medical and human humanitarian supplies, so the hamas leaders are aware of this these maneuvers and they know that they they cannot trust the israelis and neither the americans, the americans may be

showing some sort of twisting in their position, but i don't think that we can built or depend on, we cannot give it a high hope, but but you know there are some signs that the americans cannot afford for the massacers to keep on as much as it it did before and today the last time that we we saw a very brutal attack against blocks of three buildings and more and more of children women are being killed by the israeli machines and the americans did not do enough effort or serious effort to stop this massacer, so i think that in case of reaching a permanent seas fire, that will be a divine victory for the resistance organizations in gaza, for you know a divine victory for the whole nation and for the for the gaza's people,

especially the people who are you know the civilians who were not fighting and not involved in the fighting, so so far i think that the americans and the... europeans must do something to stop this massicre, they cannot just stand watching what's going on anymore, it's reach a point where it's it cannot be, no one can afford to back up the israelis and that's why we see this twisting positions along or among the whole world, you know, even among jews who are standing and demonstrating against these zionist actions and this... holocaust what they call against the palestinians, say the jews are suffering and now are paying very high price wherever they live, because people are looking at them in a very weird way, they cannot, they don't, they are not accepted in any societyound, are you going to let me welcome mrs. sakino,

please, sakino, thank you for your patience there, welcome to the program. sakina, i also want to get your initial take, like mr. risk uh was saying uh, the us uh, basically it seems like there's certain plots involved here, steve widcof's proposal, hamos has called. it unacceptable, we're going to get into the ramifications on why. okay, but your initial thoughts seems like i said earlier and to mr. risks point, he also loded to it, we're back in this mid-january, it seems like dealing with this us offer not to end the bloodshed, but to take away the palestinians only leverage to end the bloodshed. there's absolutely nothing new in this, it seems like we are you know always back to square one talking about the same riddle, it is absolutely... correct and i agree with it that this is only a way to get hostages released and the reason for this is two fold in my in my

view, one is internally. netanyahu has been facing a lot of pressure internally given the hostage situation and for all this time he has really not been able to achieve anything despite all the show and what they have achieved achieved, of course they have achieved the killing of babies and children and women and starving people. in gaza and turning it into a rubble, but they have not been able to get any of their hostages. the only time hostages were released was during that sease fire period, so there is a lot of heat he is facing internally on this on with one one hand. on the other end, it's like the other guest has alluded, it's the global pressure now. here for us, for example, in the uk, we have seen a change of tone completely, not just from the government who have been asked. continuously whether they will stop supplying now you know arms and they have alluded to that, but also in the media it is

unbelievable in a way the tone that we are seeing you know from the kinds of ps morgan and others who are now just don't hesitate to speak very eal of israelis and this is only natural when you reach a stage whereby you can observe how people are being starved to death how children and babies are being constantly every single day massackered the the the... pressure has mounted so much on all global leaders that they want to find a way out, but there is no way that they are going to find a way out, because as we know, you know trump was put in place in his office by the israeli lobby, some of the people who contributed maximum on amount of money for his re-election were stonch zionis and they are never going to accept anything other than you know a deal that works for israel, at this stage israel is just lying as they have. done always, they want to have the hostages released and then the leverage is gone. we don't believe at this stage anymore

that there is going to be a long-term cease fire, there is no question of a permanent cease fire. they have basically already ethnic cleansed gaza, so what is left for them to do? so i don't think there is any value even even the paper it's written on of any cease fire deal that is being discussed. thank you, and mr. risk, there's also we have the israely defense chief. saying that the occupation is going to push ahead with this uh campaign regardless of negotiations or a ceasefire, so how does that and other similar voices in the current netanyahu cabinet impact ongoing um talks for a seas far, can hamas, can the palestinians, can resistance uh trust the process at this point? well, i think that... netanyahu is is not paying any attention to the uh to to the

voices around the world and he is he is determined to to to go along with all the not worried about the consequences of his actions against against the palestinians and the the holocaust that's committed by the israeli government is going to reflect on the israel relations all over around the... world and we know that this this government is extreme zionist rightest government, has its own plan to create or to develop or to found the greater israel, and we all know that we have reached a ce fire in lebanon months ago, but what did the israel is respected that? they did not every time we are we are experiencing some sort of ' destinations or air raids all over lebanon, so the resistance

has no choice all over in the region, even in gaza or in beirot in lebanon or in yemen, but to resist, to bring this to to bring or to to to bring to make this rightest government or the americans and their allies or the natos to wake up that this cannot the resistance group maybe. they lose around or maybe they lose a bottle, but they are not willing to lay down their arms and surrender to such a government, because we know that we the government, the israeli government. is willing and has all the means to to go for a determination or eliminations if any any person who might be might resist the plans of israel in the future. thank you and sakino, i want to get into the the the parameters, okay, even under the 60-day, in in 60 days what widkov wants to see happen, he wants to, they

want, he wants see hamos release uh 20 captives, 10 bodies, 10 alive, but he wants basically five and five, the first 10 released on day one, the second on day seven, and then 53 days of down time, hamma says like, no, we can spread this out and throughout the process, we'll give you the that amount of bodies, we'll do it through the whole 60 days, while engaging in talks to put a permanent end, you mentioned this earlier, they're being very obscure about a permanent end to the onslot right, and hamos just wants these 60 days to go through that to that effect that. objective, use the time, we'll give you the the the captives, the the number you want, but let's not waste the entire 60 days sitting around for 53 days and not talking about an end to this onslot. i mean, this is this tells you the intentions, the fact that this is how they want to put it in place tells you that they have no intention. i mean, i don't think really there is any doubt about the fact that there is going to be

no permanent size fire, the moment you know the the hostages are released, it's over, i mean. like you know the other guests alluded in in lebanon they haven't stopped really boming people, but in gaza in particular, what happened last time, it it didn't even see, we didn't even see it last you know the discussions were on for a permanent, nothing really happened, so there is no intention really, and this is the reason why you see this block of trying to release the first you know on the first day and then living such a long gap because they don't believe they will reach there, they will start bombing yet again and "i think you know when we are talking also of the resistance, it's not only hamas or the resistance groups here we are talking about. in my view, the real resistance are the people, they are the people of gaza, you speak to them every day and they have been through so much by now that in fact this constant displacement has actually made them now even stronger, when i

speak to people in that part of the world and especially women, they say we are now not going to be displaced anymore, we are going to stay. put and whatever happens happens now, if they kill us, they should kill us, and and the reality is, how many are they going to kill? so the resistance are really the people of the land, and it is israel whose pr in this process is really going to look bad, because what are they going to kill all the palestinians, all the people in gaza? so i think, i think this seasfire coming from america is to try and avoid that negative picture that is likely to happen, also if you look at what is happening, with yemen and how yemen has been boming especially making sure that the airport you know the bengurian airport is becoming completely cannot operate these are all the reasons why now there are talks of some sort of a cease fire even though i believe that they don't have the intention of holding on to them but it is also for them to regroup themselves to ensure that you know the attacks from yemen stop

and this is not going to stop because people may have believed them at one point but at this... stage, i think you know really nobody is buying it anymore, thank you, so mr. risk, another thing we have to mention under a steve w's plan, aid as soon as hamas and the israelis and everybody accepts this plan, you gets implemented, day one, the us is immediately it's going to let in um aid into gaza, but hamos is saying, look, have you seen the the situation of gaza, we are far beyond just needing food and medicine for our people, we need reconstruction material, we need the siege uh lifted, we need a chance to rebuild school. and hospitals immediately, why are plans for reconstruction and that kind of aid being completely left out under witcause plan if there are not other suspect machinations involved? well, i think as you and your guest mentioned that it's nothing this plan, we have to be very careful dealing with

it, because i feel there is a plot or maybe some sort of a lie lying, you know, laying behind these talks, because all they want to do, their target is to get all the hostages out and then they will continue a very severe fighting, wiping gaza off, so that's why hamas is aware, i think they are aware of this, this kind of trap, and they are not going to to go and fall in it, because they want... permanent cease fire, they make sure that the attacks of the israeli will stop permanently and then starting rebuilding up the the whole the whole area, the whole uh gaza strip because it's we are not talking about the infrastructures here, we are talking about shelters for the people who might face severe situation by living in the in

the in the rebels, so that's why hamas is asking and determined and demanding at permanent cease fire first and all the supplies to to to flow into gaza, so this is the only solution with i think is trying to serve the israelis by dragging hamas into some sort of short s fire of 60 days with no guarantees of rebuilding or supplies to gaza will be will be aided and then what's what's the guarantee for hamas after being stripped of all the cards in its hand especially the prisoners in in in gaza and it's not not. about life in in gaz only, we are talking about prisoners being released from israeli prisons who who are serving maybe multiple life sentences in in the israeli prisons and you

know thousand tens of thousands and the number is enormous and that's hamas is dealing with the palestinian cause not only with gaza gazah problem now i think the hamas is dealing is is dealing. with this negotiations in a very very experty way, thank you, mr. risk asakina, i think we have just enough time to get this last question uh out to you, another very vague part of this proposal by the white house of witkov is a post war uh gaza, why does this have to be the most obscure uh as well as the permanent seasfire issue part of this arrangement now the part alluding to post war under whitkov's plan says for permanent seasfire talks will begin. day one under us, egypt and qatar oversight. this is the road you very well know we've been down uh before uh sakina. hamas says this is just too vague, it leaves too many

questions. we want a full guarantees of what kind of prisoner exchange we're going to have, a permanent cease fire, technocratic administration in gaza, independent governance for for five to seven years and that is to uh many of us a lot more than just let us the egyptians, the qataris and israelies talk about it. "your final thoughts please, yeah, absolutely, i think again it is the same issue of this is all bluffing, because we know that qatar and egypt really are not don't have the interest really of palestinians at heart, they have proven this time and again with the kind of cease fires that they support, but also you know the the fact that there is no serious plan for a permanent cease fire also post war gaza is because of what also is happening in the region, the geopolitic" if you look at it, if you look at the americans, what they have done after lebanon was bombed seriously, the they having imposed their poppet government over there, and then after the

fall of bashar al-asad in syria, them having recognized youino, jolaani and the isis basically is the legitimate government, this tells you that there is no intention of a peaceful future in the region, the west bank at the moment we are also seeing you know the increase of settlements, if there was any... real genuine intention of talking about post war, of of putting something permanent in place whereby everybody was living in peace, we would not be seeing this other elements that are going on. this tells you that there is no genuine intention of creating any kind of you know peace, and in fact this is aiding america and the europeans are only finding ways of aiding the expansion of israel, which has been always the plan since the day you know of the warfur declaration. thank you. both uh sincerely for joining us on the program, it was a pleasure to have you both on, mr. rabwan risk there joining us from beirot and sakina.2 joining us from london and viewers, this

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