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international news live from marty here in moscow was just turned nine pm seven pm in tripoli and so to our breaking news this hour where the fast moving developments in libya continue rebels say that they now control most of tripoli and have taken libyan state t.v. off the air but some reports also suggest that opposition fighters have been looting private houses three of gadhafi sons are now thought to be in rebel hands the position leaders say a large number of their fighters have been killed there are reports rebels are closing in on their peace compound but the whereabouts of the colonel are some rumors suggest that gadhafi may be in talks with south africa about a possible escape route despite denials from both sides and nato insists it will continue combat air patrols until all government forces surrender from out of from the capital crowds be seen in tripoli's central square waving revolution. where journalists trapped in a tripoli hotel say there are heavy explosions close by power is down and there is
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gunfire outside. who is among those in the hotel is afraid for his safety and says he's being threatened. the situation's gone more tense more members of the previous hotel staff and security. the media group that was responsible for us have returned with guns obviously because they were fighting these are volunteers they're not soldiers they returned with news from the fighting and the picture they've given us is not a picture of loss and they were fairly confident and i believe i'm sorry to say i couldn't go further than one of them waists might have been killed from the hotel this possibly acting on it for me right now because they are sniper someone tell. me you've been given messages by us c n n for example month to continue right here and that is we did this. threat in
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my eyes based on except it will say that censorship. in news came of. the. conflicts in what the western media the us are saying c.n.n. journalists picked up and they i believe they contacted needle in the rebels and i believe. the life of the journalists who were not reporting. for not reporting. the framework of this consensus like saying danger we feel threatened by the rebels and by the gentleman the journalist here i'll tell you right now some that you know since you have written my name isn't real here we have snipers here somebody was shot that are moved again i'm sorry to say i cannot go of that for the traffic and once the person sure they left in their car and asked to come back with a message was we are hearing maybe i am letting you know that the messages we are hearing on the ground are conflicting what the reports say what al-jazeera seeing
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what's happening and seeing and it can get very upset very very upset. if things are not going with a lot. well there are reports of gunfire on the libya tunisia border at the moment thousands of libyans heading in that direction to flee the fierce fighting between pro and anti gadhafi forces and correspondent i mean again this is out the border there has been rather intense fighting reported missing through kentucky and rebel forces about fifteen kilometers from the border with tunisia in. the border between libya and he have been unheard of in the razor played out over the past five months people have been trying to keep pleading because they have theories like given what's going on you know. no one would be enforcing literally attacking going over out of their way over tripoli. to get even more people who president
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every. day i don't know the past couple of weeks here have been reported we are not identified are armed and leak and border guard. there have been sightings of. vehicles road is but people are reportedly everywhere libyans the license plate so hard to identify exactly who those people were now are you in the clashes that we were pretty early or even for trolls and i'm just trying to be in government there have not been here for you to. meet this already to see to believe. the gunmen on the libyan flight five. hundred. that's and then they're going to come there into news here when we can now cross to journalists to miss song he's founder and chairman of the online newspaper the volt ten network he is in the rixos hotel thanks very much indeed for joining us there
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on the phone we've just been talking to a journalist who staying in the same hotel as you he was saying he feared for his life he felt threatened and very much in danger. what is the situation from your point of view. it's a strange situation because we're now in the sort in which is no more the leaders of the country they do with from the otel but now there is only so much normally seen friday you tell that as you know some of the u.s. journalists are not journalists at all they only speak with the code of journalism so there's people try to keep the all those inside the hotel know the hotel is. without electricity and no food and we had some. legion fighters inside to protect us against the u.s. and. the outer lisa surrounded by the triage no two to prevent the entrance of need to here but you need to lose
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a lot of. ground today especially reception those a big consultancy from the royal forces and they ousted the rebels from a. part of the town not all but a great part of the town and you know it's always the same think what happened in the last days in other towns that were doing the night the need to is bombing the places in very right that we've actually cocktails all day we have a vehicle tells to shoot everybody in the street and after that only after that the so-called rebels end of industry so it's very easy of course but the military action is not performed by the so-called rebels good therefore my need to that's why they are doing all the things during the night to heat what other people are doing the action but in the in the day each time we see rebels in the deed
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for you will yell for his flight to. come full again. let me just let me let me just. let me just quickly ask you it's you the journalists who are providing us with the firsthand accounts on the news of what's happening there in tripoli you say you're under threat and you were talking about spies being in the hotel all day just to make it clear representing gadhafi loyalists oh are you concerned about anti see rebels infiltrating the hotel and being. i'm saying to you almost so-called journalist in. u.s. actions. and what are you saying to them and i mean clearly if in the same hotel as you are you know what they're doing there and trying to identify who they are and what their mission is a certain everybody knows everybody in the story from the very strange i know they
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ought. to keep. it clear american cia agents why do you feel threatened then. so i will not explain you all the details. but. this security issue is a lot of people from the people from. the cia and the like just briefly just briefly finally terry is not clearly in tripoli what you anticipate tonight just briefly what can you from the sources you're talking to anticipate happening next just briefly yes i think it could be. very very. likely life like last like it was a tremendous fight. we don't know exactly who these guys. doing to the first part of the night it was only the first part of the night there was. one thousand four hundred people killed and five thousand.
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to. host all right ok well no one. i'm sorry we're running out of time no doubt we'll make contact with you later but in the meantime keep safe thanks very much indeed journalist joining us live there in tripoli. while members of the european union of once again called on gadhafi to relinquish power but euphoria over the ongoing assault on tripoli is fading replaced by concern that the new government may not have the authority needed to bring and maintain peace parties are bennett says following the reaction from london. the prime minister david cameron is very confident that this is the beginning of the end he said he is on his way out he's recently just been on the phone to the leader of the national transitional council mustapha. stressing the need for a smooth peaceful and that's going to transition to this new democratic leadership at the same time as all of that he did say that nato forces mandate for being in
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the country expires in just one month will stay there for as long as it takes are quite an open ended response to that question if there is some uncertainty tempering the jubilation around the rebels presence in tripoli the other uncertainty is over the question of the frozen assets britain has said it's prepared to release them for the building a new infrastructure in the country and stabilizing it but there is a month and here's who those will go to and how they'll be used also uncertainty around the e.u. sanctions a spokesperson for the e.u. foreign affairs committee has said for the time being will remain in place over libya and will be lifted when the time is right and finally get down to where received. about is still unknown and britain stance has changed once again about on that issue prime minister saying this morning that his future will be in the hands of the rebels themselves to begin with when the campaign started six months ago he was saying that gadhafi must go then they changed tack about
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a month ago saying that he can stay in the country so long as he stands down but living in exile now there seems to be washing their hands of it once again saying that it will be in the hands of the rebels in libya potentially precarious state this post dictatorship in limbo and we've been here of course before with iraq when mistakes were made and like iran libya sits on a great deal of oil wealth so that really complicates the issue considerably unlike iraq however there is the foundation for a new government already in place that is recognized around you they already have been matched. mission here in london but already the british press is quite skeptical of their ability to govern democratically saying that there are there is potential for infighting with a lot of interest. well for more now on the future of post gadhafi libya and the interest that various factions have in it i'm joined by mark on he's professor at oxford university thanks very much indeed professor armor for being with us here on
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our team now six months and thousands of deaths later what do you think's been achieved will the transitional government deliver the freedom and justice it's promising. it looks like we have a problem with the communication lately too while there are many but we did establish our contacts with them can you hear me now or professor aman i get i can hear you i can hear clearly yes and you know yes fine did you hear about a question so i came to the first question that i got the idea why did you get stranded we've heard the idea that this is the end of the beginning if you give the case. for your service kids. the next hours of tapes that's a lot about one problem to come because what united the rebels is that the teacher colonel but what divides them for instance the regional interests of each person's voice for one and tribal leader religious radicals and so i think we've heard all
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the right words from the people of the exiles the sensors of the transitional national council very very. well in practice when she will the tensions working with her to remember what she wants to go with murder all the commanding general of the units and so on distinguished between tradition try to recall and i'm saying a sense once if it is the case that was constructed. we may see there's tension surface. now the thing is your leaders have made it very clear they will continue to support this new government when it does get set up will the libyan people though and you mention all those different factions in the different interest do you think overall the libyan people will welcome continued interference from the international community over its future. well ahead. she really york and the nation in terms of american. troops on the ground also have some special also the parts of the next they don't want to call the reinvigoration you
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interviewed by themselves so that conflicts with your words and that's partly because they recognize. change and they can sense they have really lives somewhat of a machine very quickly let's say the situation that will flow and in a sense from the films to the i was i think a lot happening we can forget about what goes on but. also if it was continued. for all. extra war then of course. in the western states libya with are much more comfortable it was much harder than sermon. of course much focus has been made on libya's resources and gas and the rebel factions they've made it very clear that it's a priority to secure gadhafi the oil facilities but looking further ahead what will we see some sort of contest competition and indeed
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a fight over these oil spoils of war and they could be described as you say we should remember that one of the sources of the rebellion was that he should. control the territory most of you know it's very much a very dysfunctional but yet as we can see that final crisis of the final crisis there hasn't seen change when rebels of the last march of the rebels in the west where we won the civil war which controlled the country we don't recall we read our back to them doris edge book the brain goes it may say we didn't start much about it anymore so it's continue to subsidize the millions of people just going there that's so we have a big east coast slash the national service between parent groups and also some of submitting schools to there's a much more severe you go through to learn and use and with us it's always good to hear we have to say thanks so much for joining us live there not to pass a mark on that the office that you know best in the u.k. thanks very much indeed thank you. well the news of the rebel advance into tripoli
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was greeted warmly by investors around the world sparking an immediate drop in oil prices a matter of just been discussing there with professor analysts say that the most important question is just how much stability this new government will bring and sara first has more on this for us. what we see really is a kneejerk reaction in the oil markets to the events in tripoli we see in the oil prices as you say talking almost three dollars in festus thinking that there are some oil production could resume shortly now it's least foreign minister has confirmed that the italian oil company any has sent workers back into libya they've led the way really in sending their workers back there now what we've seen is the other big oil companies such is b.p. have actually started the fence at the moment they're waiting to see exactly how this plays out what's going to happen if the coming days and weeks what we've heard from the information manager of the libyan rebel oil is that they said they don't
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have any problems with western countries western companies italy france the u.k. there are a k. but they could have political issues with countries like brazil china and russia now if that's to be the case then that could certainly be a major setback those countries you could see the loss of billions of dollars worth of oil contracts i was speaking to one of the editors today a very large he's taper here and it's the and he's been following the situation very closely and how he described this was like a chess game now between the oil companies between the front countries on the ground there is still an extremely confusing time in libya what's happening in tripoli now there is still a lot left stalls out and say certainly by no means is this game at the moment but that does spell the potential problems for those countries that the libyan revolution had pointed out that amongst to
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a market that there will be output in oil production restored some point in the near future in libya. reporting now let's now get analysis on the situation more analysis in libya from david my melon he's from the south africans for peace in africa and if you don't joining us live thing in johannesburg david well it's pretty clear what your stance is but i must then begin by asking you apart from gadhafi supporters it seems to many people around the world that it's quite clear that what's happening there in libya is what the people of libya wanted and values wishes would not have been achieved without nato support. look must put it quite clear that we are not in support of either of the parties that are involved in the conflict in libya at the moment what we have been convening around in southern africa and in the continent is the fact that nato should stop immediately. terrorism in libya. the terrorism that
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has been going on for months now killing innocent lives of the libyan people and we've been saying that surely withdraw their military forces and actually allow the roadmap that has been outlined by african leaders to resolve the conflict in libya peacefully we are not in support of either the rebels. or the pro got us forces in libya do you think the african union would have achieved what has been achieved so far some would say that they haven't really played a big role in this. no the nato nato has not achieved anything in fact nato is actually submitted to the probe no the african goes you are just going to have to interrupt i'm asking about the effort on the union. i'm trying to respond to both your questions the first one is that nato nato has not achieved anything
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even if they are to remove gadhafi and his government at the moment what we are going to have is. forms of political instability and further breakage of the civil war in libya and in terms of your other question a you say you has shown to have the capacity and the political will to intervene on a number of african conflicts in the continent there isn't one has been the sudan sudan conflict as you know there are still outstanding matters but largely the conflict has been resolved there's also been. the conflict there's also. of. conflict in two thousand and three and many others like goonda and so forth so really this propaganda which is misleading the whole. a you is incapable of intervening in african affairs is actually
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a lie and it must be exposed for what it is well let's look at the future and that's. supposed to nato will end its military mandate as it's meant to by next month by september i do therefore not have any faith in the national transitional council that it will be able to carry out a legitimate and effective government and you believe then that there could be greater political instability and problems in the area you don't have any trust in the m.t.c. . we are not sure if they are going to pull out of libya immediately i mean the recent example of iraq at the moment they are still in. their coalition of. forces that are against democracy in the way they are still in iraq at the moment as we speak so the speculation that they'll be out of libya in a matter of a month can also be found to be false when you look at the experience of iraq.
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but i think what is important here is that we do not have confidence that the military intervention. nato is going to bring about immediate peace and stability in the because we know that violence begets violence if you respond to a violent conflict through military intervention like we have seen in libya at the moment we are likely to see a proliferation of. like you to see the proliferation of terrorism and. terrorist organizations actually repositioning themselves in and outside libya and including the surrounding countries. bordering libya so we are not only going to be dealing with conflict also libya but. we will have to leave it there very interesting here we have to say thanks very much for joining us live there david live there in johannesburg thank you. well the white house
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is hailed the rebel advance into tripoli saying the situation is tipping point he's going to check on has more now on the reaction from across the atlantic. well from the latest here the u.n. secretary general has called on colonel gadhafi forces to cease fire immediately and make way for a peaceful transition and that the u. when he said stands ready to provide all possible assistance to the league good people he also said that the u.n. is going to hold a meeting on the recent developments in libya with representatives from the e.u. the arab league and the african union as well as other organizations well the regime is falling apart that's obvious to everyone with the enormous help of nato and the airstrikes in the meantime washington a key player in this fight so take that full force says they are in close contact with the rebels leadership and that the west will support and direct quote president obama at peaceful transition to democracy well everything that was going
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on in tripoli this weekend was anything but peaceful we're talking about extensive nato bombing of the city before the rebels made it to the central square of tripoli we've seen the rebels cheering all night that very much reminded of what we saw in cairo when hosni mubarak was ousted but up until now that people in egypt are not governed by who they chose as their leaders and that's just one example of a revolution that any doubt with people not getting what they wanted and then leave those who took over and that is the transitional national council have not been chosen by the levy and people get the council has been recognized as a legitimate power in the view of by all allies who have been helping. me leave this are outraged by the fact that foreign powers of especially made those very important choices for them the war has been going on for six months it took many lives and a lot of criticism nato is facing a deadline in september when
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a resolution full strikes has to be renewed and given all the violations that have taken place it would be very hard to get everyone on board for extending the campaign with what we see on the ground in libya right now is. looks like the nato has met the nato forces have met the deadline it's important to note that colonel gadhafi had very few friends in the international community after what he had done to his people and the whole of the international community has been united saying that he must go he must step down all of the u.n. security council members shared that you including russia but many say the way nato has been accomplishing the goal of toppling khadafi went beyond the u.n. resolution from six months ago which authorized the military intervention some say it went far beyond the resolution was designed to protect civilians but many innocent civilians have been killed by nato strikes during those six months and also the funneling of weapons to libyan rebels as has been done in violation of arms embargo imposed on the as far as the rebels are concerned they are far from
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being there how margin is group sort of united there there has been internal fighting going on. but many experts are saying that the fight for being in charge of leave here should be no surprise to anyone considering what's at stake here we're talking about a nation that has the richest oil reserves in africa. the french president nicolas sarkozy is announced to hold a conference with the leaders of the libyan transitional government later this week and daniel bushell brings us more now from paris the french defense minister says the has called for a meeting in paris to play what he calls a roadmap for libya french france's foreign ministry says the talks are on the way level and that nicolas sarkozy the french president will meet with the head of the transition later today france is that the transition. as it
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moves forward now as it plans its future libya is a potentially prosperous country but it needs assistance from the west to come through with those plans to brussels the representatives have said as the u. . state seems to be taking a back seat in these negotiations they see an opportunity to fill the vacuum admitted the hard work lies ahead and the divisions between rebel factions means that it will be a difficult time because when there was a single enemy it was very easy for various factions some with very different interests to bond together and now there are fears that this may collapse and there may be a power vacuum france in fact claimed that the mission in libya is over now defense experts here in the european union of concerned by such statements because with the absence of gadhafi and any sort of real power structure there are concerns that there could be even more bloody civil war emerging than
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if you join is very welcome this is our breaking news this hour rebels claim to control the libyan capital after a major nato back to default was thought three of colonel gadhafi sons were captured by the opposition but one has reportedly a skate with the help of lawless fighters and. opposition supporters rejoice hoping the forty year old regime is nearing a dead end but skeptics point to the bitter disillusionment that followed the fall of egypt's dictator. and the international reaction ranges from euphoria to push and concern over the likelihood of an unstable rebel government torn apart by competing interests. brings you up to date for the most obvious but with more of those developments there in libya in about thirty minutes from now in the meantime it's our special report now looking at life after the death penalty in the u.s. .


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