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the center of the dialogues to reevaluate the results of the arab spring. most definitely leave tunisian writer and i was so founder and director of the new york university. center for dialogue it's great to have you with us here today. tunisia has been caught up in a wave of anti western protests where protesters were actually tearing down the flecks from the embassy four people died some buildings were looted and now we hear that some of the government members one people who took part in this protest executed now if that is true that's a very bold decision ok if that is to happen do you thing that that could actually
put an end in the future to an extremist way of protest or in a country that would steer more anti-american and anti western feelings in tunisia in the present government and particularly the islamist majority in the government the government does these things it is because the pressure of the united states has been such that the head nor the choice. over my view of what happens if the united states government. called the president through these you could. if the same thing that happened in libya. getting better than it would have been in news you you would be responsible to your be a sponsor to the president of tunisia had to send the presidential guard excuse to read the ambassador and his staff to bring them you see. and so there was
a void but it was really going to sequences the exactly what you expect. consequences the consequences i think that would inflame more feelings among the groups that are in fact part of the now that they're not outside of it you see what you have you know what you haven't really is an islamist party that speaks with the language that speaks a double discourse speaks in a discourse to its internal. groups and the discourse outside outside they have to show they need to show that meaning america and the west the way or just us to the world is the rest of the world and including two million society two million secular society all we are very moderate we are very modern we are very open to do what we want to respect or defeat them censor and then incite they say different things for instance i give an example the video was discovered going back to this
octal and other words about the time these things were happening and it shows. he cannot deny that it's him he's speaking mr van which is the head of the islamist party. because they had of the islamist party there also you know he's the head of the he acts like a whole. somehow so he really doesn't get high anywhere. but he's really the source of authority if you look at who is the source of authority without him nothing will happen now the video shows him in consonance in a discussion with the chief islamist in his office what was he to them he was standing them well look you have to be patient we both you and i we have the same objectives to the contrary you have to be patient we have the same objectives now this is of course a big school with no music and what does he say or so he says well we have to be
patient because the army is against us not against us the administration we do not have the administration or ones let's first have the army let's work to have the police let's have the government because it is the structure with us then we can so slowly we will do it in other words the objectives of the extremists and the objective of the so-called moderates exactly exactly said but isn't that ironic. that we would see islamic government come to power in tunisia not only in tunis in egypt and every other state that has been swept by the revolution in the arab spring and then at the same time they've been helped with the united states and that's not a secret for anyone how does that really go together at least honest government and we can and says i mean it's almost as if like the united states are making the same mistakes they did in afghanistan in the eighty's you know when they created a headings and then they turned against them i would agree with you but there you do in fact this is what they say publicly what happened is that the u.s.
had no choice they had to deal with the. islamist that did not mean that their proof of their id is oral and as a result of what happened the libya what happened in tunisia i believe the days now reassessment of the position of american side of the american side what exactly do you mean by reassessing because well hillary clinton came out and said after years and last year was killed in libya that how could this happen in a country that we have helped to liberate maybe the oversimplistic approach may be this stereotypes are chilled lame for the fact that american escape trick creating the same traps and obstacles for themselves as far as the arab all good to know what i mean where is why don't they get the arrogant ality i think the problem here is the lack of knowledge of the arab world and didn't mind eleven if you would go to an american bookstore looking for any book dealing with issues concerning
the arab world you won't find many including in fact sometimes in academic bookstores and then suddenly after nine eleven. two weeks later you go to any and you know new york you started new york you know you will go to any bookstore of barnes and noble and suddenly you have these books and this is in a way also the american attitude america has always been able to act according to the sense of crisis without a crisis no one cares where the big prizes then they put the means however when they went to iraq they did not really have the experts this explains the horrendous mistake that were made in iraq. i give you an example this is a personal example i was called i think two weeks before the launching of the hour of the iraq war. to brief members of congress at
a breakfast there were about twenty five of them spoke including the three chairman of the. congress could be. and the idea was to really give them a sense of what islamic civilization what out of the resistance but there was amazed at the kind of question they were that has basically about what is she what is. wrong and then you wonder these are the same guys who are going to make us to decide on war and peace how does the lack of knowledge america lack of knowledge of islam and the arab world reflect on the decisions they're making in syria right now . i think the same the same mistakes and the same approach is who are you to day i think hillary clinton when. almost you go when just we were just at the beginning of the. arrest in syria and said well. that's
a good you know like the dismissive way it's like we decide who should be president or should not be president instead of that time there was still a possibility of trying to find a consensus among groups with the government with the it's not there to somehow for a new solution and new beginning for syria instead of that we went from one it's collusion to another escalation and now it's probably too late should he go though at this point because the how could he really reconcile with his people after everything that has happened how could he rule syria even if he was to win which is very unlikely it is up to the syrian people to decide. the syrian people are simply on both sides you know you still think it's if you don't mention it well we don't know how would you decide it's fifty fifty if you do not have elections so having experienced libya egypt pakistan now syria afghanistan what are the lessons that the americans have learned in your opinion and once again talking
about the reassessment of their policies how would they reassess a new. appear i think what they have learned is that you should not get and to any situation that you do not know you have first to listen to the experts second to be modest and to have a sense of humility you cannot rule the world today you have to listen to the audience you cannot decide who should go and should stay that is very important so these international role there is security council there is the united nations general assembly there is the international community you cannot go your own way to solve problems soulforce this is over that time is over that is number three number four you have to be careful about those who you spouse today as your friends they might turn against you one day you have seen ever going to stand you might see that now with this coziness with the islamist parties so what is the final
conclusion that you have to stick to your values you have to stick to the red lines you have to say clearly since you deal with these leaderships with these new parties. they are red lines and there is an avalanche because freedom of expression freedom of religion pick egypt the coptic minority is leaving egypt. the coptic minority is leaving lebanon the coptic mentality is that the christian minority is giving iraq if we do not take the necessary action to reassure these minorities. the middle east which was rich because of all these minorities would become a desolate landscape is to became a wasteland so. stick to our values say to these regimes if you cross red lines. we would be tough. and if this happens then i think we can have
a better future for the vision for america to step up to me thank you very much for this interview thank you. if you're passing through rushes to be a region you really can walk on the wild side thousands of kilometers of unspoilt countryside make up an area where it's still possible to live off the land such spectacular scenery makes it a paradise for fisherman and provides a business opportunity for hunters there are defined hunting seasons in russia but lax enforcement means many animals are killed out of the allotted times which can leave young animals orphaned and unable to survive the heart of just u.s. forest provides a sanctuary for the most famous beast in russia it's home to a group who rescue often bear cubs and raise them when they're old enough to fend
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paving the way for scotland to go it alone in the u.k. prime minister and the first minister of scotland signed the deal a referendum on scottish independence and two thousand and fourteen. moscow says it's impossible to confirm whether the mouse's is using a soviet era cluster bombs against rebels on the country's being flooded with illegal weapons from abroad meanwhile the e.u. has slapped the syrian government with new sanctions. on one man stuck in the seizure of the libyan opposition his last stronghold tells our supplies and bani walid are running out conflict there has already killed ten people in a series of armed confrontations last week and. thanks paul has the latest from the world of sport.
thank you very much kam welcome to the sports headlines here is what's coming up road to rio russia's football team prepares for their one hundred percent record in two thousand and fourteen world cup qualifying on the line against azerbaijan. seat swap after his win at the kareem grand prix second top of the f one driver standings rumors circulated sebastian vettel could be on his way to ferrari. last night on the ice we bring you the best of the action from the latest round of matches in the kontinental hockey league. but first russia will be looking to continue their one hundred percent record on tuesday as they take on azerbaijan and their latest twenty fourteen world cup qualifier on the hosts will be hot favorites to win as which have been portrayed explains russia's world cup qualifying campaign
is going from strength to strength nine points from free games and no goals conceded sees them sit top of the group capello sign put in a very good battling performance against a portugal team run for from the world that's about jhana certainly not in the same class and almost one hundred places below the russians how well the italian is expecting a tough game on tuesday. i know their head coach bertie votes very well and i played against him azerbaijan are a well organized side and are disciplined i have noticed that they have a number of decent footballers who could cause problems and also have the potential to create something out of nothing capello has hinted that he may make one or two changes to the starting lineup that played against the portuguese did the school should call from a replacement to face all in who was brought up at half time look i'm achievement fielder put in a good performance and he says he's expecting his side to be on the attack for long periods on tuesday. i'm pretty sure that as a boy john will look to defend the numbers when the game gets underway i'm
expecting a tough game and it will be difficult to break them down russia ready have a healthy goal difference and with azerbaijan being one of the weaker side to make group this game could be a good chance to score even more goals however captain eager to nice of says he'll be happy if russia win one nil and get all three points then one thing for me is that will win i am prepared for us to play scrappy football and get to one nil victory but the most important thing is that we win i really want to play in a world cup as i haven't played in one yet in my career i am more than prepared to win every game one nil as long as you make it to brazil. pressure will start to straighten favorites when they take on as a pleasure another healthy crowd is expected of illusion at the stadium and it seems to be a getting the fans back onside after a disappointing campaign of the euro's and of capello's men get a free points and choose the better of taking another small stride in their quest to qualify for the next world cup automatically fabio capello's enjoyed
a dream start to his career is ahead courage the russian national football team has been proud to sit top of group with maximum points so far will not stop azerbaijan where russia will be hot favorites to win as they look to continue very impressive record and make it four wins out of four. don't see moscow. now staying put side where a selection of russia's former footballing greats turned out in force for a charity clash on sunday boundary to hold off following carping on hugo tito after some of the icons who shaped russian even soviet football those are many more big names playing in the news making a ring out of people who have suffered at the hands of terrorism and their performances were an added bonus demonstrating spartak foundation just three minutes into the game with this little piece of brilliance. caught on of them include matters three minutes after the break from the penalty spot but the red and white world. cup team to call it off sending the ball to the net as it used to do worse occasions during his eight year spell with the muscovite america's two one
the final school. meanwhile in formula one rumors have surfaced linking red bulls two time defending world champion sebastian vettel with a move to ferrari in two thousand and fourteen it comes just hours after the german dominated proceedings at the korean grand prix to overtake potential new teammate fernando alonso the summit the twenty five year old began from second behind current teammate mark webber but he soon a secured the lead before storming to victory with a full eight seconds to spare parts metals a third win in a row meaning he's also become the first driver to win four races this season webber was second. place but is now said. points clear of alonso in the drivers' championship before races left to go this season he was last on top of the standings way back in may. now let's talk golf where it was a weekend to remember for shane lowry on the greens the irishman when his first event as a professional in portugal lowry started sunday's final round four shots off the
top but took control of the leaderboard from vice after they stunning eagle on the eleventh beautiful twenty five year old would trade the lead with sharon indeed it was the englishman who looked favorite to claim the masters title heading into the last couple of holes but a bogey on the eighteenth would hand the crown to the delighted awfully native it's his second european to win but his first as a pro after winning the irish open while still an amateur. it's hard to explain. it's really it's a very complete understanding here. it's all a practice of dawn and all the people of. you know it is. very really meanwhile there was also a first time when on the p.g.a. tour persuaded a journalist blix winning frys dot com open. up already on the seventeenth followed by a level par on the final hole of the final round was enough to secure
a one stroke win with it a check for nine hundred thousand dollars. definitely a reason to celebrate now to the hard work where the l.a. clippers have recorded a ninety nine eighty nine win over the reigning n.b.a. champions miami heat in an exhibition game in shanghai miami stars dwayne wade and le bron james the players everyone wanted a glimpse of in particular during the chinese preseason toll on the jewish girl thing started in spectacular fashion. however the clippers led by the andre jordan would take a fifty seven forty three lead into the break the second half seeing l.a. stick to the script with miami just unable to turn it around way down james providing only eighteen points in total by the same amount as clippers sent to jordan ninety nine eighty nine clippers the final score their first preseason victory. now let's move to the ice where there has been a busy day in the monday with eleven games taking place across the continent garbage donbass and two one the other games are multiple east defeated
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