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it's going to lead to money to relieve. the wages of debt. coming up on r t a song still in limbo tomorrow marks three years in a series of detentions for the wiki leaks co-founder who is still stuck in the ecuadorian embassy will explain the latest right ahead in remembering mandela throughout the world people are mourning the passing of former south african president nelson mandela we'll take a look at that reaction and his legacy coming up and birth control pills for men it's been decades since the creation of the female contraceptive but how close are we to making the fill a bill for males we'll tell you about some breakthrough research later in the show .
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it's friday december sixth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm lynn neary david you're watching. we begin with the plight of julian the sons of co-founder of transparency organization wiki leaks tomorrow marks three years that assad will have spent in detention though he has never been officially charged with a crime on december seventh two thousand and ten the transparency advocate was taken to a british prison cell sweden had issued a european arrest warrant for a songe because he was wanted for questioning in a sexual misconduct case a songe feared that from snowden he would be extradited to the united states to face charges for releasing hundreds of thousands of documents containing american state secrets while a songe made bail ten days later he was under house arrest for five hundred and fifty days as he continued his appeals process to avoid extradition when the last of his appeals failed the songe walked into the ecuadorian embassy in london seeking political asylum in june of two thousand and twelve he was granted that
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asylum from the ecuadorian government in august but has no way to make it to the south american country because there are around the clock guards outside the embassy ready to arrest a songe should he step off the property and that's where us entre main the ecuadorian embassy three years after this whole legal saga began. and every year barbara walters does an a.b.c. special in which she highlights who she thinks are the ten most fascinating people of the year this year that list was expected to include everyone from miley cyrus to pope francis but perhaps the most interesting of her picks was edward snowden according to the new york daily news walters had a particular fascination with the former n.s.a. contractor and one point she believed he would be chosen as time magazine's person of the year as did many other people but even though walters originally granted snowden the top spot on that list executives at a.b.c. later nixed the idea of giving stone in that honor some people have speculated that
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the reason he can't take the top spot is because he's not quote interview. will that a.b.c. will only pick people they can have access to snowden is of course currently seeking asylum in russia and not exactly talking to the press but a network spokesperson already refuted that saying people are fascinating no matter if we interview them or not the most fascinating decision is not made based on who we interview and so why snowden was snubbed at the number one place will remain a mystery. and we continued today with the news of nelson mandela's death mandela guided south africa out of apartheid and into a multiracial democracy thereby becoming an international icon of peace and reconciliation mandela was ninety five years old and will be laid to rest at his ancestral village of qunu in the eastern cape on december fifteenth a week of mourning has begun in south africa and will include an open air service
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in johannesburg on december tenth mandela was imprisoned for nearly three decades for his fight against the white minority rule in south africa and in one thousand nine hundred four he became the country's first black president former u.s. president bill clinton had this to say in response to his death today the world has lost one of its most important leaders and one of its finest human beings we will remember him as a man of uncommon grace and compassion and the former president jimmy carter has echoed that sentiment saying his passion for freedom and justice created new hope for generations of oppressed people worldwide and because of him south africa is today one of the world's leading democracies here in d.c. people are laying flowers on the statue of nelson mandela at the south african embassy and has seemingly touched the lives of many for more reaction from around the world here as artie's laura smith. here at the south african embassy in london
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and public buildings all around the city flags are flying at half mast to mark the death of nelson mandela there are around half a million south africans living in this country and some of them have come here to the embassy to lay flowers and pay tribute to the passing of mandela and of course tributes all flooding in from elsewhere to the royal family prince william for example has called him an extraordinary and inspiring man the queen has paid a personal tribute talking of the great warmth she feels when she thinks of mandela saying that he worked tirelessly for his country and that his legacy is the peaceful south africa that we see today and political chippies to flooding in from all over the world lead in this country by david cameron he called mandela a towering figure a true label here and says a great light has gone out. but
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this is all i'm hung around if we look just at the conservative movement for example in ninety seven margaret thatcher who slammed him as a terrorist said that the a.n.c. could never rule south africa anyone who thought so it was living in cloud cuckoo land and david cameron also around the time he made a trip to south africa as a rising star in the conservative movement and they were not being against sanctions on the apartheid movement so most certainly. now it's not clear whether david cameron was personally involved but certainly the organization he belongs to was and it was a similar picture in the us but actually even more delayed in terms of his rehabilitation if you like mandela was on the terror list and he and his associates were removed from the database until as late as two thousand and eight nine years after his presidency of south africa was already over. that was artie's laura smith
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reporting. found in an arms mentally ill man has just been charged with assault in an incident where a police officer shot two innocent bystanders near times square the man being charged is glenda broad maxon police are holding him at fault for the injuries because they say he instigated the incident the altercation started when broad max walked into traffic at a manhattan intersection and jumped into the path of oncoming cars at that point police officers tried to detain him soon after a broad next reach into his pocket and officers assumed he was reaching for a gun so they fired mistakenly shot two women nearby broad max's lawyer is claiming that his client was emotionally disturbed saying he suffers from anxiety depression and possible delusions the attorney for one of the wounded bystanders had this to say about the charges it's an incredibly unfortunate use of prosecutorial discretion to be prosecuting a man who didn't even injure my client it's the police who injured my client
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regardless the bail for broad max has been set at one hundred thousand dollars and the two police officers have been placed on administrative leave. and it's not just glenn brought max who's suffering as a result of a mental illness it's also people like bobby bennett a mentally ill man who was shot four times by a police officer despite the fact that he showed no threat of force or how about kelly thomas a homeless man who was beat to death by six officers who responded to a call about a man giggling car door handles in a transit center parking lot turns out thomas was suffering from severe schizophrenia and of course there was the case of miriam carey a connecticut mother who was shot to death after trying to ram her car for a white house barrier later it was discovered that carrie was suffering from postpartum psychosis it's an altar patients like these that are beginning to call into question just how police are trained to deal with the mentally ill to discuss
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this a little bit more i was joined earlier by male bartlett a civil rights attorney first asked him whether it's mandatory for all police departments across the country to train their police force on how to respond to the mentally ill. well across the country east apartment can probably his own rules or regulations so it's impossible for me to really know at this point whether they all have such regulations but it's clear that each and every other arm and should and simply force them point that it's essential that people who may have mental illness whether they suffer from mental illness or to temporarily agitated should rest assured that they have the best opportunity to come away from an encounter with police in a safe way and it's equally important for the officers themselves because if there are properly trained they run the risk of escalating a situation and also putting themselves and their fellow officers in harm's way so are all for the police officers who are exposed to that knowledge what does that training look lighter look like or what might you think it would look like and
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would you say that acquit. i think that that training should deal first of all the understanding to generally time is on your side. and also the fact that the goal should be to deescalate situations and to keep them as calm as possible now of the vast majority of police department if not all trained their officers in how to deescalate and that's usually embodied in the use of force protocol which starts out with the officers mere presence alone and if you simply think about someone driving on a highway when you see a police vehicle on the side of the highway everyone driving tends to slow down and tends to drive more rationally than they would if that vehicle wasn't there is the same concept with the presence of police who are on foot right out will someone argue that police officers don't always know the suspect has a mental illness and that it's hard for them to distinguish between someone who is ill and perhaps someone who is under the influence of drugs for example
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a what do you make of that argument well i think that that's why training is so central police officers if you look at people who are in other professions it's less essential because you're not dealing with them in a matter which police generally encounter people but quite often police encounter people with emotional disturbance where they're going to render medical assistance to those people are they not a suspect of a crime national presence we have three cases right now where the police have shot and killed each of the individuals and they were not responding to a crime in either one one is kenneth chamberlain sr in white plains the other want to send crews in newark joe and mohammad by in manhattan and in each of those circumstances the police were called fair ball in two of the circumstances of mr cruz and mr abbas matters the police were called there by law the ones who were concerned about their family members but not because the crime it in committee and with respect to mr chamberlain who was a sixty eight year old retired marine mr chamberlain happened to roll over and trigger his life pendant by mistake and as
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a pennant it was designed to allow him to call for assistance if you. so there are these individuals were the policeman bureau wow well in the case of bobby bennett i'm not sure if you're familiar with that his mother did call the police department to come help with her son she couldn't handle it on her own but she specifically warned them that he had a mental issue of course we know that he was the grossly shot there after is there something more as a family member she was supposed to do to prevent that from happening or did she do all she could. well she probably did all she could because unfortunately we're not training in how to deal with mental illness all the other issues that the police department had available protocols and utilize those protocols because it's it's two things sometimes it is a protocol in place and a department or the officers are not aware of it or choose not to employ it but if they have a proper protocol in place they were brought to a mental health professional or with them and someone who would have been able to
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assess the situation and determine exactly what was necessary so that everybody could could leave that encounter safe right and right through there to give assistance they weren't there because he was committing a crime right exactly a what's your guess as to why the police officers in this incident didn't seem to act with any kind of sensitivity i mean do you think there is a breakdown in the way that that information is communicated to the police officers or is it just like you said you know they're ignoring the fact that he has a mental illness well the one that's an outstanding point because we don't know what transpired between that initial call for assistance. the message that the police themselves actually received so you can call and say that you haven't heard from your loved one in a long time you're concerned about their well being and we don't know what the police dispatcher is saying until you hear the radio one of the nine one one tape what will happen also is that the person was in the home and this may be one of the most critical points is that the person in the home has not called the police and
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that was mailed bartlet a civil rights attorney. and poland is in the hot seat this week after lawyers representing to guantanamo bay detainees told the european court of human rights that they are suing the country for permitting cia black sites to operate and torture their clients on hold or soil abdulrahim on the shiri and other lives of beta are considered high ranking al qaeda operatives before their capture they claim they were water boarded forced to stand in stress positions and went through mop. executions make good wall in these cia black sites only shiri was captured in the u.a.e. two thousand and two was found in pakistan and the two of them both went through the cia secret prison network after that the two men were sent to guantanamo bay where they remain to this day the men claim that they were tortured at secret cia prisons in poland a country that has laws against torture while poland has not officially admitted
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its role in the cia program there is significant documentary evidence pointing to complicity from poland romania and lithuania in creating these secret detention facilities reprieve research or crofton black wrote quote we have now heard overwhelming and uncontested evidence that the cia was running a secret torture prison on polish soil with the polish government's knowledge despite being given many opportunities to do so the polish government has failed to contest that it knew prisoners were being held beyond the rule of law and tortured by the cia inside their own country poland has been conducting internal investigations about their potential participation in the black sites but has not yet provided the european court of human rights with any classified documents. and keep your shoes on tighten your belt because your trip through security checkpoints could be getting easier pre-check is the members only club run by
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a transportation security administration that allows low risk passengers to get in the short line at the airport and is now getting easier to join this week indianapolis international became the first airport in the country to open a sign up center for its pre-check program right at the terminal pre-check program began in two thousand and eleven and while nearly twenty five million people have already joined there hasn't been any easy way for the average passenger to enroll of concern to privacy advocates is joining the program requires travelers to provide a back. check and fingerprints but the t.s.a. says that information will lessen the housel of going through security so the agency can focus on people who are truly suspicious the new and romans owners are launching and major airports across the country the next one is set to open at dulles international before the end of the year. and the holy see is awfully opinionated these days on everything from fracking to drones and it seems the roman
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catholic administration will not be slowing down any time soon just recently a representative of the holy see criticized some very controversial trade deals that are in the works those are of course the trans-pacific partnership where the t.v. and the transatlantic trade and investment partnership also known as the t.t. ip these are trade deals that have by and large remained secret from the public however the massive pacs are expected to affect jobs environment consumer safety and even the assess ability of medication in a statement the holy see said among the most damaging concessions developing countries make and regional and bilateral agreements are those enhancing the monopolies of lifesaving medicines which reduce access and affordability and those that provide excessive legal rights to foreign investors limiting the policy space for nations to promote sustainable and inclusive development and still ahead here
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on r t the world of birth control medicine may soon expand australian dollar scientists claim they've come up with a birth control pill for men but would then really be interested in taking the pill more on that after the break.
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i've got a quote for you. it's pretty tough. because they were it's about story. but if this guy like you would smear that guy stead of working for the people all titians in the mainstream media are working for each other bribe bribes digit by coming home. if they did rather. dramas that are trying to be ignored. stories others refused
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to notice. faces change the world writes now the. full picture of today's events my own designs from around the globe. dropped to. fifty. most women thought they would never see the day when men would be taking birth control pills but believe it or not that day is finally in sight scientists in australia say they are closer than ever to developing a male oral contraceptive this is coming from a study conducted by researchers that mel warns monash university their extensive testing on mice researchers discovered that they can block two of the proteins responsible for controlling the transport of sperm through the reproductive system and the investigators say that blocking these proteins had no long term effects on the sexual behavior or function of the male mice so that means this could be the
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answer to achieving temporary male infertility i spoke earlier with elaine listener director of the male contraception information project i first asked her why we haven't seen male birth control already. yeah well it's not about the biology it's about politics it's about money it's about sociology a lot of times you hear well it's a lot easier to stop one egg then and millions of sperm well that's true if you're taking the same approach in men as has been taken in women which is to try to shut things off hormonally that is difficult but men are different than women and the sperm all flow through a small tube called us deference so this approach that's been in the news and some other approaches trying to get a lot more targeted and stop the sperm in that one spot now that said so it's not rocket science scientifically but the problem is there hasn't been the scale of
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investment necessary there have been a lot of studies like this one in the news where someone got one hundred thousand two hundred thousand dollars to try something out and it worked but once you have that where do you go now it takes several million dollars to actually take the steps to get something all the way to market right and you. know i think that money is for going to be the talent going forward but i understand that you are familiar with some other kinds of contraception for males out there right now can you talk about a couple of those yeah there are a couple methods that are much more far along there's one called vassal gel that stops the sperm in that tube the vast difference as i mentioned in last ten or more years and it's non-hormonal potentially ten or more years based on a similar one called rice that was developed in india. we know that data because men have been using that safely for a number of years there's also a method similar to the one that's been in the press but developed originally at
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king's college in london that also that is a pill and a short acting it's called the clean sheets pill and i'll leave that to your viewers to put two and two together what that meant. it's about demand and that's been one of the big barriers is people have thought that men are not interested but times have changed maybe the men who were in power in the nineteen eighties and one nine hundred seventy s. and sixty's when female contraceptives were developed were not interested but men have a lot more responsibility now and are looking for some control to go with that responsibility sure. yes in fact there are are over eighteen thousand men on the on the list to hear about the clinical trials for the vassal gentleness and i want to get to that but briefly i want to go back to the research as i understand it scientists use something called knockout mice and i was hoping that you could explain to the audience what what that refers to ok so what that means is they have
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gotten rid of the function of a particular gene and they've produced mice genetically engineered that don't have that gene so whatever that gene was going to do these mice won't be able to do so it's very nice but it's a long way from use in humans the next thing that needs to happen is you need to find a drug that can affect that gene so because you don't want to go genetically modifying humans not that's not going to happen so. now once you find a drug which you can do by something called high throughput screening where you test thousands and thousands of different molecules then you have to see whether it's safe which is a long process which is why as a male contraception information project we say hey let's look at the work that's already been done and is in more advanced stages it's been tested in animals we know it works in some larger animals not just my snake the rabbit or monkeys some
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of the message we know work in humans and are in fact based on drug side effects of drugs that have been around for a long time. and we definitely should explore that but i want to ask you one more question before we go the only have like a minute left you know even if scientists and doctors can work out the biology which i'm sure this isn't going to happen for a few more years at the very late at the very least. it's more than likely that some men will find this this idea sort of and matthew waiting i you know how to challenge and you anticipate it to be getting male to sort of open up the idea of taking birth control or do you think there is enough demand there that you know it's not that challenging. i think that there are enough men and not everybody is going to be interested but the men who are are very passionate and it depends what you offer him and if we offer something that's as lousy as what women currently put up with now young men are not going to be interested but there are some better options out there and i think
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a lot of men think as well that we should be pursuing them and did some of it is very lousy. thank you so much elaine lesser director of the male contraception information project and tonight's resident we take a look at new york governor andrew cuomo has commissioned to investigate public corruption but what is that exactly take a look. earlier this year governor cuomo appointed something called the commission to investigate public corruption and it just released its preliminary report you'll be shocked to learn that the commission found a hell of a lot of corruption in new york but as far as state documents go this one has lots
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of juicy moment for instance in one hard hitting moment the report says that one out of every eleven legislators to leave office since one thousand nine hundred ninety has done so under the cloud of ethical or criminal violations it lists tons of senators in the same way members who accepted bribes and embezzled extorted committed larceny you name it one of the most entertaining moments is when the report transcribes a statement made by new york councilman halloran and at the secret conversation when talking about a case where a senator was charged with trading cash for m a r l nomination he said that's politics it's all about how much he can't do anything without that equity money but the real lightbulb moment of the report is when it says that much of the deplorable conduct of public officials is perfectly legal yet profoundly wrong it illustrates
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this by going into case after disgusting case of pay to play arrangements loopholes misuse of campaign funds conflicts of interest and so much more and it actually has moments where it offers ways to fix this crap like increasing transparency about politicians' income or their relationships with lobbyists. and more oversight of discretionary funding that goes into ways to overhaul campaign finance all of its recommendations are much needed no brainer solutions that any high school kid could understand and agree with but the final touching moment is when one of the commission's co-chairs issued a call to arms saying it's now up to us all to transition from this back fighting phase to implementation and legislative action these fixes that won't happen naturally which is so true because the people we need to write new laws that aren't filled with illegal corrupt loopholes are the same people who benefit from them
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never be britain legislating against corruption would be the most unnatural thing for politicians to ever do so who knows if it'll ever happen but at least for this entertaining report goes into the shredder and gets forgotten maybe our politicians will give it a quick read and remember they're supposed to be serving the public not their bank accounts for just one moment tonight let's talk about that by following me on twitter at the resident. and that does it for now for more on the stories we cover go to youtube dot com slash r t america check out our web site r t dot com slash usa you can also follow me on twitter and amir a david and don't forget to tune in at nine pm for larry king now tonight's guest is singer and songwriter jason derulo we'll talk about his newest album tattoos and
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