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there's just too much. coming up on r t the pentagon is looking for ways to save money on its equipment a part of that effort is the massive military junkyard stocked full of takes robotics and much more of our t.v. gives you an exclusive look inside that massive syllabi just ahead. and in the nation's capital all rallied to protect a free and fair internet concern grows over an f.c.c. proposal that could create bass lines on the web the details on that protest coming up. and in a world of growing surveillance here's a new product for the camera shy a chicago man is offering a realistic three d. mask that promises to protect your privacy we'll talk to him later in the show.
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it's thursday may fifteenth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm lynn neary david and you're watching r.t. america. we begin tonight with the news that a russian proton rocket with an advanced satellite onboard has crashed after lift off russia launched the rocket with a mission of loft ing the express am for our telecommunications satellite into orbit that launch took place at a space center in kazakhstan but in its third stage of liftoff there was an unspecified failure russian publication r i ain of os he says the rocket could have crashed over the all time mountains or the pacific ocean but its whereabouts are still undetermined however on a positive note so far there are no reports of major damage or casualties we'll continue to follow the story and bring you updates. with a december two thousand and fourteen deadline just around the corner of the u.s.
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is strategizing how and when it will draw down the majority of its troops in afghanistan but that's not the only task at hand a major project is underway to get billions of dollars of equipment and vehicles out of the country and once that happens the next challenge is how to store and repurpose all of that gear so that it doesn't go to waste in the latest installment of an in-depth series artie's mega lopez gets a rare look into the military junkyard that holds the answer to that question. we're not just a junk yard the stuff does not come out here and just park and sit and in rust and deteriorate donalson is in the business of recycling comet bagels. tanks armored personnel carriers trailers trucks fuel tankers water tankers heavy construction equipment bulldozers it's light sets his gaiters it's a.t.v.'s this is the spear army depo is a thirty six thousand acre patch of land in her long california and it is where the
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military and the army stores their equipment and actually said that out so that it doesn't have just one life but to pension every penny and every dollar so that taxpayer money isn't wasted after the war is finally over this stuff has been used once. we bring that value back by you have it being re used to get. sierra is america's largest repository of military equipment returning from war twenty six thousand vehicles and over one billion dollars worth of clothing have been shipped here on planes trucks and trains if they can still shoot roll or otherwise function don and his team take it into inventory fix it up and ship it right back out to troops and we're not just talking about big ticket items so you can see the workers here that are practically processing the material they're opening the boxes to see of what's inside it's an engine starter i don't know hundreds of dollars for
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a big truck or there's cables. there's filter systems there's a steering wheel it's not sexy stuff but if we did not do this the army would be buying all of this again and they're not have the do that now really different you . take bits are we are we talking about here millions literally anything that's in the army supply system we could receive here anything since kind of like a big home depot where you can just go to your aisle see it it kind of is in a. age where the military's belt is tightening through seaquest ration drawdowns and troop cuts anyone who can save the pentagon a penny is quite an asset one stark example armor used in soldiers that previously we would throw these away and the army would buy a new one but five hundred bucks we got with the manufacturer we said look kid can we do something with this to make it usable again for the soldier at a cost savings to the army so we now have a process we've identified where we can fix all of these little depleted
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deficiencies that our army in and the process is simple pay period to apply this the tape on air and seal it back on is permanently seal it is just like it was manufactured brand new at the factory the team then sends the plates through an x. ray to look for cracks and puts each one through a stress test two million plates and counting the cost is about sixteen dollars used to fix we save the army huge amounts of money in another warehouse workers sort through clothing then create a kit for individual soldiers based on their size and needs we pick the items for each soldier we pack them in the boxes and then we put them on the o.p.'s truck and we ship them out of here. we do this better than anybody in the world with the largest scale operation of anybody in the world that does this kind of job but with the war in afghanistan finally coming to a close more equipment is coming in than ever before the question now is what to do with these former war machines. for that the military is getting created this
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trailer is a water purification system it could soon be deployed to natural disaster sites humvees an emirates are being stripped of their heavy armor and repurposed for civilian use and the list goes on what can't be scrapped or salvaged is sold to the highest bidder often allied military is sometimes local law enforcement. it's all about that trying to bring some value out of something that made previously have not had value. presumably the return value was anything to save the military a few bucks now that the war drums have finally stopped beating hoarding in her long california meghan lopez r t. that was the final installment of a six part series on the challenge both physically and financially drawing down military equipment but joining me to discuss what may have been left out amongst other things i want to bring in the story teller teller herself our t.v. . there so this series was very expansive six parts i don't think that's anything
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we've seen at our t. so far talk to me about where it took you to and who you were able to meet this took months and months of research and so along with that research it also took months and months of talking to people it took numerous trips countless trips really to capitol hill to go to different hearings that took numerous meetings with activists with former military officials with former soldiers who were injured in i.e.d. explosions with them routes and things like that and i also went to. texas to interview ron paul and talk to him a little bit about kind of his idea of way soon also of the idea of auditing the pentagon and then i also went to obviously her along california to get to toward that thirty six thousand acre c.r. army depot so obviously it took me across the country and there are numerous other depots that was just one example it's the biggest repository but just one of them now just to go over the series really quickly and kind of refresh viewers' minds it
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covered the amount of quitman to cover the costs of all the equipment and then the second packers talked about afghan readiness and how much of that equipment they can realistically handle talk to the third one talked about those mine resistant ambush protected vehicles the fourth one kind of gave some examples of waste the fifth one talked about the idea of auditing the pentagon and getting its financial books in order which there was another meeting on capitol hill this week kind of talking about that a lot of members of capitol hill were really not happy. at the results that the military and d.o.d. were presenting them and this final one looked at the c.r. army depot where is one of the only examples of where the military is trying to save a couple of pennies a covered so much yet we were just talking earlier about how there was so many more stories you could have gone and explored it could have been a twelve part series is there anything that you could fit into the six part series that you felt perhaps was left out i feel like there are a lot of different details i always get caught in the details when it comes to
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a story so there are a lot of details that i was really attached to that just didn't end up making the final cut in the second in the first story for instance we were talking about problems between shipping equipment from through afghanistan through pakistan to the caracas the ports and then flying them out afterward now the problem with that was that there are a lot of financial boundaries there are a lot of cultural boundaries that i weren't able to talk about we talked about some of the problems that there was a for instance an attack on a nato attack that killed twenty four pakistani soldiers that actually shut that border down but things like the holy month of ramadan can shut down that port and that border for several weeks at a time so it was just it was a really little details that are important and lay a big role and how the equipment is transported that just didn't make the final cut and you obviously did a lot of digging into this story so at the end of the day what was the biggest takeaway for you oh i think the biggest takeaway for myself and i think of something that the viewers probably noticed the most was just the amount that we're
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talking about the amount of equipment that is going into these wars the amount of equipment that is the waste of the amount of equipment that's coming back the amount of money and the amount of time and effort that trans com that centcom have to put into all of these different stories in order to kind of bring this whole in the war together it's not simply bringing the troops out and wash your hands of everything there are lots of things to take into account and we only have a few seconds left for. the people that couldn't see this series week by week is there a place that they can go to watch it all and fall absolutely youtube dot com slash r c america we are going to put the series in a separate place so that everyone will be able to catch every detail and kind of walk with me along this journey that took months to cover there you go to live on in the internet excellent reporting and thank you so much. activists gathered outside of the federal communications commission building today in washington d.c.
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to protest chairman tom wheeler as proposal to govern internet traffic you have c.c. pass the proposal today that would prohibit companies from blocking traffic but couldn't give them the freedom to offer faster service to internet companies like affleck's and h.b.o. if they choose to pay a fee but free internet activists are still demanding a better deal artie's lindsey france has the story after an appeals court in january throughout the f.c.c. is net neutrality regulations chairman tom wheeler drew up a new proposal released today on its website the f.c.c. says it seeks to develop and implement high level flexible rules of the road for broadband to ensure that no one of the government and other companies that provide broadband service can restrict innovation on the internet what we're seeing here outside the f.c.c. today is on the ground after as i'm vs well funded lobbying efforts by broadband providers we have legitimacy of democracy crisis united states because the money's really not the people and that's what's happening here to comcast is ruling out the
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people to people ruled it be a public utility it be for the public purpose the reason today's vote is so important is whatever is in the rules they put forward today that's all they can do they can ask questions about different options but it's not included in these documents it's not on the table so the good news is they're asking a few better questions because of all the public pressure so this is documented his change the law because they're hearing from so many people the bad news is they're still favoring a path that would fundamentally change the internet and that hasn't changed yet and in order for it to change a lot more than the three million people who've already spoken out are going to have to keep getting louder i think this is setting a president in a dangerous line and we want to make sure that the internet is that fordable accessible for everyone in this country and right now the truth is that thousands and thousands of people are still on the wrong side of the digital divide and can't get on the internet we need to change that and close that gap the proposed rules would ensure one transparent. all i asked p's have to disclose to their subscribers and users relevant information as to how they govern their network to no blocking
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of legal content and three no unreasonable discrimination i a species cannot act in a commercially reasonable manner to harm the internet including favoring the traffic from an affiliated entity there's plenty of room for argument in number three according to tech companies big and small who fear the backroom deals with telecom giants to undercut the public interest companies such as google enough likes don't want to pay cable companies to reach customers and smaller startups without the funds to pay fear they could be left in the slow lane of the internet superhighway so to speak today opens another chapter in this debate with realtors notice of proposed rule making made public that public will have a chance to weigh in to help the f.c.c. flesh out how the commissioners intend to vote wheeler says hopefully that'll happen by the end of the year but any decision made is sure to hit the courts over and over again large companies with deep pockets touting free enterprise wanting to
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fight off the small guys who feel as the founder of reddit put it so simply that the internet is essentially a super highway there should not be fast lanes for people just because they can afford it at the f.c.c. and to friends r t. how the national security agency has been legally justifying its scooping up of billions of american bone records has long been a secret but according to newly declassified court documents one telephone company got a sneak peek into the government's reasoning for the program years before edward snowden exposed what the n.s.a. had been up to we're now learning that telephone company sprint began pushing back on requests from an essay to hand over all of its users call records in two thousand and nine sprint was apparently on the verge of filing a formal legal challenge over the order when the justice department asked the surveillance court to allow. the company to read court records about why it dean the program legal after sprint was shown the documents the company dropped its
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challenge and immediately began handing over call records to the n.s.a. civil libertarians see this as a reason the phone companies alone should not be in charge of protecting the public's privacy rights this new information also calls into question statements made by surveillance court judge clare egan in a declassified aug twenty third teen opinion where she concluded the program is legal she wrote that the telephone companies had no problem with the program saying to date no holder of records who has received an order to produce bulk telephony metadata has challenged the legality of such an order but now we know of course sprint was in fact the first to do so over the last decade we've seen a surge in the amount of surveillance cameras being implemented into cities across the united states and with more cameras naturally comes less privacy but what if you could do something about that one artist says you can he's developed something called the you are me personal surveillance identity prosthetic it is
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a realistic three d. printed mask of his face made from pigmented hard resin the mask has a photo realistic rendering of skin tone contours and they still hair so how exactly does this ward off surveillance joining me to discuss is the man behind the you are me project interdisciplinary artist leo leo thanks for joining me. it's pleasure to be here thank you for having me so talk about what it sees me talk about why you made the decision to explore this idea of an anti surveillance a mask. well sure so i started thinking about exploring this idea when i moved to chicago to be part of the interdisciplinary arts and media program at columbia college chicago. and my work at all ways dealt with identity but i was shocked to find out that chicago was the national leader in surveillance you know
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with twenty five thousand cameras all networked to this central hub called virtual shield it really kind of shocked me this led me to look at artists that were dealing with this kind of stuff and one artist was adam harvey adam harvey as you may know did this great project called c.v. dazzle in which he created all of these tutorials and how you could use makeup as a prosthesis to thwart facial recognition by painting things like triangles and squares on your face and having these asymmetrical haircuts. that was really one of the major major things that led me to creating this kind of work of art is a lot of talk about the hard resin mass because i think that's the main product here was the technology being used to create that. well the mask is made by my partners at that's my face dot com they have a proprietary kind of technology that allows you to submit to them a you know
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a photo a two dimensional image and from that image they're able to reconstruct a three dimensional model of your face with all of the same contours. all of the measurements that would be on your face they then print it using this pigmented hard resin i like to think of it as like an inkjet printer that prints solid material. so ok correct me if i'm wrong but the only rubber imprint offered to people would be a replica of your face you know so that means that anyone that does anything criminal for example and you'd be the person coming up you know on the surveillance camera it would always id you'll how do you plan to handle that for you know when it gets to the point where people actually want to buy this thing. well that's a really excellent question. i have thought about it and of course there's
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a significant criminal element in the project because we're talking about surveillance right i mean surveillance doesn't exist without a criminal elements and i've weighed you know i've weighed up the pros and cons and i realize that there may be a time where i may even be arrested for a crime that i didn't commit but that being said i think it's worth it if it if this project creates a public platform for us to start discussing surveillance and really getting down to the nitty gritty of who we are when we're being surveilled i should also state that while this is the first stage of the project i'm hoping that eventually what will occur is that i will be able to ask members of the public to donate their faces to the project so they're you know all different types of identities to choose from of all different races genders and other kind of factors and so the idea that like people could not just be wearing my face but be wearing other
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people's faces as well is something that i see for the future of this project all right so it's not just going to be you ok let's get to now what have you explored the legality of doing this in the first place i mean is it completely fine for someone to just walk around with somebody else's i guess quote unquote face on is that completely fine to do i don't know maybe there's a law against that well i should state that the reason that i'm starting with my own face is because i'm the only person i'm willing to put at risk. because there are a lot of laws out there and they change from state to state so there's no federal anti mask law but there are several anti mask laws in different states and even different countries throughout europe and in order to kind of let my audience know about the i have a resource page on the your me. surveillance web site with links to all of the ides of articles where people can find out. but what i would say is that this technology
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is so new and so emerging that i'm not really sure what legal precedents there is for something like this i mean look at the case of conrad's iraq who was a white man from ohio who. successfully robbed six banks he was caught eventually. eventually i'm sorry he was caught eventually and it was discovered that the way that he was robbing these banks was by using a latex prosthetic mask that made him appear african-american also in ohio an african-american man was arrested. for. these bank robberies so we already see instances you know outside of my project in which the legal ramifications of what's happening are very real but we just don't know where it's going to land yet here now as i understand it you also offer
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a more economic solution and the form of a paper mask can you explain how that one works totally you know when when thinking about the prosthetic i realized that it was going to be expensive it's a new technology and not everyone can afford two hundred dollars yet it was very important to me that the project be as democratic as possible and available to fit many people as possible so i decided to create a paper version of the mask now the paper version doesn't necessarily work out as well it is paper it's very easy to see that someone is wearing it but it what it does do is it does trick facial recognition even though it won't trick other people also i think has the potential to make this really strong statements about our right to a sir. herself in public space and so i've started to try and rebranded more towards a activist kind of device where there might be
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a group of people that want to you know go into public space and assert themselves but might have a bit of fear behind it they could have these masks on and avoid at least immediate detection of who they are while they get the word out and laughingly all tell us really quickly what point people can expect to see this on the market. hopefully by july i am not manufacturing them they're actually coming straight from my face dot com we're just waiting for the indie go go campaign to finish and then will will be having those products available to the public all right certainly an innovative project and our disciplinary artist with a logical thank you thank you so much it's been a pleasure. it's been a year and a half of fast food workers demanding a rise in the minimum wage and all those workers are making it clear that they have grown and scope and size today fast food workers in at least thirty three countries
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and eighty cities are rallying and worldwide protests on the issue what you're looking at now is miami video from earlier before on the protests in new york let's go to our tease on the. fast food workers first the fast food industry and the giant companies that run it on a global deal action this may fifteenth fast food workers have come out on to the streets to demand better working conditions for themselves throughout the world here in the united states actions and strikes are planted in one hundred fifty different cities we're at the protests in manhattan where at least a hundred people have so far showed up but more people are expected to come out of the probables throughout the world action is taking place in thirty three different countries spanning over six continents this protest matters because workers all over the country but even all over the world are getting paid horrible wages they're not living wages the demands of fast food workers in the u.s.
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have been clear since their movement really kick started in november twenty first while they want the minimum wage of seven dollars and twenty five cents per hour raised they want to be able to get fifteen dollars per hour and to be able to form unions without retaliation they say they're tired of struggling and living in poverty because of the way these corporations treat them we're here fighting for minimum wage fifteen dollars an hour respect in the workplace while the debate about wealth inequality has been key in the us in the years and days after the recession these fast food worker see that one major change is still being denied the fact that fast food workers are no longer teenagers trying to make an extra buck but in fact families who are struggling to feed their children while the giant corporations behind the industry make billions of dollars every. majority of those of us on fast food workers are the ages of twenty eight and you've got to remember most of us that are finger perry who are alive are going to keep coming out and
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we're going to keep supporting this oil until we get what we came out the hole which is the fifteen in the union i know people got up really early today. protesting in many cities. this movement is growing exponentially by leaps and bounds it's getting very powerful these protesting workers are saying they're going to keep coming out onto the street until their voices are heard by the companies they work for and by law makers and until real change is implemented in the us and spicy chicken at artsy new york. while that does it for now i'm a mirror david have a great night. i know. i'm.
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there's a lot of talk about robots these days how they're taking all of our jobs and how they could spell our do much even physicist stephen hawking just recently said that artificial intelligence might be the last thing humanity creates but war machines start out smarting us and taking over planetary control which is why this story is extra large maybe because now the u.s. department of defense is working on creating artificial intelligence that will imbue our robots with this sense of morality the project is being carried out by top researchers from top brown and the once
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a leader polytechnic institute has been funded by the office of naval research a wing of the department of defense that mainly deals with r. and d. computer scientists philosophers and roboticists are all working together on the project to try to pin down exactly what human morality is that's already pretty scary the idea of the u.s. military working on creating a definition for what morality is this same establishment that drones innocent kids all over the planet is going to determine what is ethical that's already ridiculous enough but then after they've pinned down what's moral and ethical they're hoping to create. a computer algorithm for it and then they hope to take that algorithm that reflects the morality of the u.s. military and implant it into robots then the robots can determine between what is right and what is wrong as defined by the us military and that is utterly terrified . one of the researchers working on the project sees the robots using
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a two stage approach from choosing right over wrong first the robot with the artificial moral intelligence will perform a lightning fast as a whole chapter should i stop and help this would guy and then the robot would perform a deeper moral reasoning like helping this one soldier more important than my current objective of obliterating as many people as the u.s. wants me to. the us military is already relying heavily on machines to fight its immoral war with drones and robots like big dog a kind of giant terminator robot the thought of instilling more rally into these war machines defies logic but the funny thing is that by some chance they actually succeed with this project and actually make a truly moral robot ime to the first decision it would arrive at would be to immediately turn on their extremely immoral creators and dismantle the department of defense entirely in which case this plan wouldn't be such
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hello there i'm marinated this is boom bust and these are some of the stories that we're tracking for you today. first something alex daly senior editor at case is extraordinary technology talks with us about the tax advantages of living and working in puerto rico kate long she's on the program as well to deliver it were bought all about the author of media land tells us about the precarious footing of the country's twenty fifteen budget and in today's big deal edward harris and i are discussing a net neutrality and mobile phone known wars going as moment and all starts right now. out this week citigroup fired eleven top employees that it's ben of next unit
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mexico the pink slips came in connection with the loan losses roughly four hundred million dollars worth made to mexican oil company oceanography now the bank has blamed those losses on fraud oceanography a was a contractor for a mexican state owned oil company pemex and they appeared to be falsifying invoices depend acts that were then used as collateral for loans from bene max along with many other banks in mexico now according to the wall street journal signs of trouble with better max's oceanography account appeared in february when bank executives learned that the mexican government had stripped. any further contracts from pemex for doing two whole years now the reason for doing this was because oceanography have failed to post adequate financial guarantee in the event that they couldn't feel their obligations now this cut off the company's main source of revenue which obviously then a worry of some top benefits that officials that they wouldn't be getting their money back and they were right to be worried now banamex as people requesting the
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meeting with pemex his people in order to get a sense of the bank's exposure to fia and fix stacks of invoices were supposed to reassure a better mix that had plenty of money coming in but when the benefits executives traveled to pemex his headquarters in mexico city they learned that many of the two hundred seventeen pieces of paper that they love to the meaning in big old boxes were apparent forgeries with fake signatures that kind of stinks now the second twenty times citi group was looking to boost its lending in mexico specifically in the oil and gas sector has a ortega mathematics banker he laid out more attic accommodating terms for oceanography in terms of the deal but rather than demanding invoices as proof of payment the new model called for banamex to accept work orders and not to bother corroborating the information with becks now the big question in all of this is why would city be so stupid to not look into this a little bit deeper other banks in mexico were pulling back on their loans to ocean
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over fia just to cities started rowing money at them to a greater risk management being asleep at the wheel now what you're doing business in mexico mexico for christ sakes it's really lost on you that it's a pretty corrupt place it's not like you decided to increase your exposure to oil and gas in denmark. puerto rico has some serious problems but is there room for opportunity well it kind of depends on who you are and we asked both alex daly and kate long and learned that they do not agree on that country's financial situation now alex takes it as the glass half full that's his approach and he says that for the savvy investor puerto rico also has some serious advantages alex is senior editor of
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casey's extraordinary technology had he sees puerto rico as a place to avoid federal income tax now he wrote a paper called puerto rico's stunning new tax advantages with casey's international man and i started by asking him why in today's global economy our businesses and individuals seeking low tax jurisdictions to minimize their tax bill take a look at what he had to say. we've been seeing a flight of talent a flight especially in financial sectors information technology areas like that to nominally advantages it vantages places so you're seeing silicon valley where you can raise a lot of capital but you're also seeing bankers go to singapore to hong kong to other places where they can lower their tax rates and make more money they can hire good talent they can build centers of innovation and what we're seeing now interesting lee for the first time is that starting to happen to americans americans have traditionally always been the only people in the world who were taxed based on their citizenship and not their residency but now with puerto rico
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and the virgin islands you're seeing people moving out of america seeking lower tax jurisdictions just like they've done with in america going to michigan in new york and florida places that offer tax incentives americans are now headed to puerto rico is offering a significant tax savings for american businesses who can relocate there now i have to ask is that something that you yourself have done i know that you're in puerto rico yeah i'm talking to you right now from thomas del mar part or you go i've moved down here myself and i've started a few businesses down here what i'm finding is that the entrepreneurial climate down here is absolutely fantastic the same kind of energy i saw in new york in silicon valley in the late one nine hundred ninety s. when i started my career as an investor i'm seeing down here people talking about deals people building businesses people building big job growth incubators i'm seeing biotech companies software companies financial companies all putting their nexus down here high income earners in canada europe asia and south america they can pay high marginal tax rates so here's an example now though the top rate in france is forty five percent french president francois laws have been looking to
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temporarily raise the top marginal tax rate to as high as seventy five percent so how do you think high income earners would respond to this type of policy. well we've already seen a flight of capital in a flight of intelligence out of high tax jurisdictions in europe you know at first we saw people leaving london london has an extremely high tax rate between local municipal taxes and national taxes they also have some penalty tax rates on hedge funds and other people in the financial business and a lot of people have left major financial centers and major information technology centers in europe to head to lower chat tax jurisdictions already we see people headed to the cayman islands we see people headed to singapore hong kong and the people in those countries have been able to always lower their taxes by simply moving there was even a flight of people from london to paris and i think the increased tax rates in paris are largely a response to that to say hey we're now that we've attracted all this capital let's
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find a way to tax it which is a problem europe has had for a number of years and is continuing to have it's one of the reasons it's had relatively anemic growth outside of germany anything in europe outside of germany has really been slow to grow over the last few years and most of the growth in the world has been happening in china and india and brazil and these more entrepreneurial all economies now here in the u.s. citizens are taxed on their worldwide in town so individuals can't lower their tax rate except by switching residence between american states and territories and judging from the pressure that we've seen on football and it's fair to say that the u.s. tax authorities are pretty aggressive but what's your read here. well the us tax authorities have been rightfully aggressive against those places like switzerland that have relied on reducing people's taxes by skirting the law by focusing on banking secrecy and hiding money and moving things off sure what you're talking about with puerto rico is a really unique opportunity to be above the board to follow laws that have been in place now for going on about one hundred years the tax treatment of us
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protectorates has been that they have their own ability to tax their own residents at their own rates and that american federal taxes don't apply for those residents the virgin islands has had an e.c. program an economic development corporation program in some form since the mid one nine hundred fifty s. the problem of course with the virgin islands is there's a limited amount of infrastructure there very small islands can be difficult to get to and from them they don't have really big airports they don't have great internet connections strong power systems nor do they have a network of people or large employer bowl well educated population they have smaller versions of all the same things puerto rico on the other hand now with acts twenty and twenty two also with previous tax incentives that have brought down companies like pfizer and microsoft and bart and bristol myers and many other companies that are already here but he has found its place as basically as much infrastructure as any state in the united states now i have to ask you what the dire fiscal situation in puerto rico make it tempting for the government to raise taxes on individuals as they have done on business. dire is
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a strong word puerto rican debt when you look at the numbers that are thrown about in the media are often a characterization of all day on the island including not just federal debt but all municipal bond debt all debt for pension systems all debt from medicaid all debt for all the types of things in the u.s. that are normally thrown out and we talk in the us about the fact that we have about one hundred twenty percent federal debt to g.d.p. ratio puerto rico is pure federal debt to g.d.p. ratio is actually only seventy seven percent so it's significantly lower than the u.s. if in the u.s. you were to add all the state debt all the municipal debt all this unpaid state pensions and all of that together you get significantly higher rate somewhere in the two hundred fifty to three hundred percent debt to g.d.p. ratio where puerto rico is only about a one hundred forty percent with those same way of measuring it's not spain it's not italy it's certainly not greece with a four hundred percent to get that to g.d.p. ratio but i think what's more important is the direction they're headed on last
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tuesday the government announced the balanced budget for the next fiscal year when's the last time you saw that in the united states they actually have twenty five departments closing their consolidating schools they're making the right moves to get it so that the government is more fiscally responsible and is living within its means so you have a balanced budget with a projected flat tax revenue if the if they can continue to grow the economy as they've started to again finally picking up after the stall out from two thousand and eight i think you'll see a significant surplus here in the ability of puerto rico to pay down and level off some of that debt and they're certainly not seeing the same type of action in the united states or in much of europe you have a balance up or ago it's not a sovereign state that can print it down money how do you then what do you say to that. well that's a good thing and a bad thing for businesses if you're looking to relocate a business internationally currency risk is a huge concern in puerto rico currency risk is effectively zero you know the u.s. dollar is the reserve currency for all the questions we have about u.s. debt and about our ability to manage our budget and the worth of the dollar over
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the long run it still is the most stable of the theocracies and so for a lot of businesses doing business in puerto rico is an international taking advantages of the free trade zones they have down here manufacturing incentive service export excess incentives this can be a major jumping off point for a business without introducing a lot of the risks that come with going to other sovereign places that do have control of the debt that was investor alex daily on the tax advantages and overflowing opportunities and puerto rico. time now for a very quick break but stick around because one river turn i sit down with that movie and expert kate along to look at part because finances finances and from her on the glass loops much much and yeah they're nuts out there and it is a big deal it's thursday edward harrison and i are talking about the impossible and net neutrality and a revolution in the mobile phone market but before we go there i look at some of
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your buzzing numbers to balance stick around. the media leave us so we leave them to. the same motions your. party is it that. no one is that good with to get that you deserve answers from. politics. that are today.
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now you just heard from alex daley and his saying we knew about investing in puerto rico but things aren't all great there says many land blogger kate long now you might say that she sees the vaso as half empty you like my spanish accent there actually closely follows the municipal bond market and reported last week that puerto rico is april tax collections took a four hundred forty two million dollar hit that's twenty seven percent below projected revenues which could jeopardize the twenty fifteen budget now bondholders were promised the budget would be balanced so something's got to give now i spoke to kate earlier about the state of finances in puerto rico take a look at what she has to say the governor recently proposed
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a new budget for fiscal year two fifteen twenty fifteen which begins on july one it's at the same level of spending which is nine point six billion dollars as does the fiscal year we're in now we're looking very closely at april and june tax revenues that will be coming in to see if they meet their projections if they do there's a chance that they'll be able to roll the budget over into next year in and stabilize the situation. ok interesting ok i want to know what does the economy and puerto rico look like right now. the economy is still very weak it's in mild recession the last month's march is economic activity index had it moving down about zero point eight percent a little less than one percent employment has somewhat stabilized but they're still losing jobs so it's still pretty weak picture now one of the best cut best comparisons to puerto rico in the muni bond market and how do those
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issuers compare in terms of debt to g.d.p. deficits and by other macro measures. puerto rico is off the chart when you compare it to u.s. states i asked earlier today on twitter what other sovereign bonds were trading in the same range as puerto rico and what i got back was ukraine venezuela and argentina puerto rico does not have the severe economic collapse that those countries do but they do have really really big challenges ahead of them and it's reflected in the bond yields kate i want to ask you i'm trying to you know get a look at how puerto rico has debt burden in the context of its fiscal responsibility you know essentially puerto rico it isn't a state but it also isn't a sovereign nation so what differentiates puerto rico in terms of fiscal cost from sovereign nations like greece or spain or states and provinces like illinois or ottawa or even countries like scotland. you know like i guess. the
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quick answer is that bonds are a contract between the issuer whatever their status and the bond holders. puerto rico has a. debt that's about equal to its g.n.p. that's actually a little bit lower than some other countries but it's more a question of how much debt service and how much general revenue they have to service that it's the service seen dead is about thirteen percent of their general fund which is pretty high and again it's a question of whether tax revenues come in line in there are able to pass that cash through to pay the bondholders. kate in today's global economy businesses and individuals they're no longer bound to hide domestic tax rates and often seek out low tax jurisdictions in order to minimize their tax bills now isn't the fact that puerto rico riza destination for americans because of the federal tax exemptions kind of help it as it tries to get its economy back on track you know that's
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a very good question aaron it's that that you're referring to i think a lot of air act twenty two which gave american investors the opportunity to move their shelter their capital income or basically pay a four percent tax on and pay no federal income tax on their capital gains it's really there's no clear evidence yet that that spin is support to the economy they've been pushing very hard they had this investment conference a couple weeks ago led by john paulson hoping to attract more investors and i heard they got about thirty requests for applications from investors after the event. is no clear evidence yet that that's a given a boost to the economy i know there's a great hopes that it will do that now what the dire fiscal situation and for the rigor make it kind of tempting for the government to raise taxes on individuals as they've done on businesses. you know it's really tough they keep raising taxes on the domestic people and the local people in turn turning around and trying to
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attract overseas people with no taxes but they have a pretty high tax base and somebody has to pay for it either that or they need to shrink the government and provide services. what about our u.s. tax authorities i mean if suddenly a bunch of high income earners hedge fund manager john paulson who you mentioned earlier they pick up and move shop won't congress look to close those talks exemptions in puerto rico. absolutely there's no question if it becomes a big deal and there's a lot of income being sheltered in puerto rico congress could easily change the tax law i've also heard in some cases that public pensions are putting pressure on some of these hedge fund guys to say don't move your assets or you know don't move your income away we won't look at that currently can't last time you're wrong we talked briefly about the fact that puerto rico has so to its people you know we're looking for suggestions and there's no ideas about idea in brainstorming and there's been suggestions like rico i was prostitution and they already have legalized gambling
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legalized marijuana all these other things what does this say about the fiscal situation of the country and just their finances in general. you know it's just a very very difficult situation they have had budget deficits for twenty years they've borrowed in the bond market for twenty years to cover those deficits and to suddenly change course and try and get a stable and balanced budget is a huge endeavor especially when you have a population that's very reliant on government services in the form of you know housing or health care education and it's i think they're just pulling all straws they can and they're trying very desperately to come up with any kind of combination of things that will stabilize the economy and get it growing again but there's a lot of headwinds is not generally growth in the united states i mean or there's relatively slow growth so it's not like they have you know that tailwind to take advantage of so they're just basically trying whatever they can try. kate if you
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were a betting woman would you vote yes or no on their success of. succeeding in this endeavor. i guess in the context of bondholders there's a lot of debt held by their government and some of it needs to be restructured and i and i do believe government would do the right thing just to go ahead and address some of those categories of debt and restructure it because even if they grow the economy they're still going to have this big lump of debt that needs to get service so for the next ten or fifteen years they're going to be weighed down by pain bondholders which means they can't provide other services to the people it's kind of simple fan of it all but when i ask you can you give us a general update on how the muni market is doing right now. i mean these are doing great there's massive demand we're trading near you know several year lows as there's demand for treasuries there's also demand for municipal as i just read
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into a big c.e.o. over at reuters and he told me he's been buying a lot of municipal bonds there's just a lot of demand for for the paper. that was kate long who authors of the blog muni land with the other side of the puerto rico debate time now for today's big deal. i'm joined now by my partner in crime mr edward harrison and today we are discussing two very important topics net neutrality and the mobile phone clone wars continue all right now we have a lot to get to so i just jump right and now the first topic i want to talk about is net neutrality now a quick definition of net neutrality is the idea that internet service providers should not charge more for certain types of data on the internet so browsing facebook should cost the same as playing a video game or watching netflix now the f.c.c.
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is trying to figure out what to do after a federal court struck down the commission's open internet order and its latest proposal has gotten a lot of criticism now today had voted to move forward on this person proposal and now it moves to the public comment period after which the commissioners will vote again now part of the f.c.c. is problem has to do with how the f.c.c. categorizes internet service right now broadband is considered an information service but edward how does this differ from a telecommunications service what to do with those two well it was highly regulated if you think back to t.v. there were enough provider they were basically considered a utility and therefore it's highly regulated but in the telecommunications act that we do you have this bifurcation between the internet service and. the traditional sort of blend that you have and so forth so that's regulated the live but the species who are giving you the internet service the broadband like
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a free for all it's not considered a utility it's considered a completely normal type more interesting no one ask you how are these rules currently. taking shape and what do you find problematic about. well here's the thing is that if you look at the internet as it's as it's done today really you just have a bunch of big players who are just take a look at the whole linsky. you have a lot of different players who are very large. cable on the one side then you have a lot of players on the other side that are very large netflix you have google and the thing is is that the people who are the eyes peas have integrated backwards into the broadband thing and the people who are in broadband like level three have been upgraded forward into things like caching and so i do get into each other's territories and as a result of that you get in these conflicts between monopolistic players but at the
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end of the day it's really the last mile where the biggest problem is because if you think of it as a highway you know if you want to get off the highway you have to go to only one different one player there's only one way off the highway. oh if the exit is own. or horizon or whatever they have the potential to actually charge you an exorbitant amount of money to get off that because you have no other way to exit and so that's what people are concerned about and i think that there's a legitimate reason for them to be concerned that with this new ruling that's really what's going to and it's a fine up to last the start but i want to move on to our next object and i want to talk more about mobile handset clone wars now motorola has come out with a smartphone for one hundred twenty nine dollars and blackberry has launched a low cost smartphone in tunisia for only one hundred ninety one dollars and yet another company called one plus one offers a premium plan for three hundred bucks now these prices are without any contract so
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you get this totally lowballing contract for the i phone five which is comparatively massive compared to these other ones at six hundred fifty dollars. which seems ridiculous when we're talking about fans of one instead of the others but your theory is that this is a new clone war and i love that term can you explain to me a little bit about what you mean you know back in the day apple was pretty much in the same position that they are in today which is that they're one company making hardware and software for the only the only person in that ecosystem versus another ecosystem which was the i.b.m. p.c. ecosystem and i.b.m. opened up their market to so-called clones of these these computer companies that basically cloned the i.b.m. p.c. and what we saw is that there were so many competitors in this market that prices dropped significantly i.b.m. actually started to lose share and was eventually forced out of the market but was well was crushed by the onslaught from these companies right who were just
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releasing product like crazy prices were dropping and apple couldn't compete and therefore they lost market share by trying to keep their prices high now when i ask you how will this play out in the mobile market as a whole they basically how will the clone wars affect the consumer at them i think will be a good thing because basically what we're what we're seeing now is huge saturation in terms of the developed economies so you mean most everyone has a phone in a mobile phone of some sort and so the degree to which they don't have a smartphone they have a speech or a phone and they're going to move up those are more cost sensitive buyers and so they're saying to themselves i don't want to pay six hundred fifty dollars for. i could get a phone but then you know i could get it for two hundred but that i have to pay the subsidy of twenty dollars a month for my it's not of little or they could just actually get a phone for one hundred twenty nine dollars and be done with and that's where it's
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headed and i know we're going to hear more about this and i want to talk about what new front we've got to go we're out and you can watch everything on your t.v. . there you are a slash start. i'm errant that's advice they don't march out. cross-talk
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rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want. he's all pinion ated outspoken and ready to take a stand on the day's red hot issues he's my good friend bill maher get ready there's he's joining me for this edition of politicking. politicking on larry king joining me one of my favorite people who's never afraid to say what he wants the host of real time with bill maher on h.b.o. the one and only maher himself and by the way in addition to real time bill will be at the murad theater in indianapolis on may thirty first and on june seventh at the car not a theater in rockford illinois west of chicago work the country larry i know i do
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let's get right into turn issues none more current than this to sterling now i've heard that you have attacked the fact that he was taped. yeah that's yeah but i know dns them justify the means but this is absurd well you know it's been good if we could keep two thoughts and i had the same time you know no one forgives the racism it's nice we've reached a place in america where that's not even debatable nobody stands up for the racism but you know the fourth amendment isn't beanbag you know i get it that he's in a kind of a quads i public situation there with the team it's not its own not public but it's the other owners can kick him out tonight but when i was saying a lot of people it's interesting i almost never get cute does from both left and right both left and right like that i said you know what if you can't do your own girlfriend in your living room without losing your property. then what is before
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the men because the fourth amendment is the one that says we should be secure in our homes secure in our property secure in our persons and. you know racism is bad and so is losing the fourth amendment so what do you do when it bounces what once is out the owners have no way to go i mean they can say well yeah we shouldn't take them but what do we do right now i don't know what will they would they would i mean i had kareem abdul-jabbar in the week before and i said you know everyone saying how brave commissioners solver was well he wasn't exactly brave i'm not saying he did the wrong thing but it's not brave when you do something that every single person says you should do and brave is going against the grain the grain is we're getting on the air and you know what the owners wanted to get rid of sterling because it's going to hurt them the business the players would have just revolted it's been there already african american league in it so you know it wasn't brave
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but it was perhaps the right thing to do i'm sure it was the right thing to do like how do you think it is who's advising him on doing other appearances close foot in the mouth is a classic actually i think. judging from the anderson cooper and you know view that's actually going to help him because now people are just going to think well this guy is it's pathetic dimentia you know i mean no one can be that bad. you know on purpose you can't act that stupid and he said about the wife. from what i read she's a racist i mean it well yeah but she was kind of his right hand man with the apartment buildings and you know i it's unlikely in a marriage that long that they would have very differing political views it's it's rare when you find a mary matalin james carville kind of marriage usually husband and wife are aligned on those kind of issues so i don't think she's some sort of outlier in this i think
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she's. guilty to know the number of patients in all he is and i have been interviewing bill maher since one nine hundred eighty seventy nine eighty he'd worked in washington one time when my on my radio show he was a regular not ninety ninety nine i think the first time i was on was when i was on politically correct which is early nine you know you want in a club in washington really you were it was in the eighty's you were made out of gardens that club and why get involved produce a pipe pipe a loved you and say you got to have this pile seemed sound and that said you have a better memory than i do let's say in all these years and then it is why in two thousand and fourteen is this the racism in america i mean what's stupider than not liking someone because of its own risk in which they have nothing to do with what is stupid in that i mean people won't give how going to anyone with half a brain i don't know why i know what i do i fancy this where he goes i'm going to genius god to do you know. you know i'm the one who's always saying america it's
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stupid in that big book it matter but you don't but they say well i can prove it jobs are in various you know sixty percent of the people think noah's ark story is pro literally drew i mean our people stupidly got everybody on library count the ways i mean i mean racism is obviously fused with a lot of different things some of it is just lizard brain nonsense you don't look like me i hate you some of it has to do with economics and class and the way rich people are able to use things like race to divide poor people you know it's very easy to get people distracted from the issues that they should be thinking about by pointing to race that mexicans going to take your job well that mexican is probably not going to take your job because as it's been proved over and over again john mccain said it once and you can do it my friend you can't pick fruit and the sun all day white people have tried and they will to buy lunch and other areas. it's
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engressia list a geisha him to bend yeah well you may have the democrats are saying that this is a phony thing well it is a funny thing it's been a funny thing from the beginning i mean it's a tragedy but not everything bad that happens in the world is obama's fault or is that they're always there template for everything is to work backwards from obama is evil obama is a socialist obama is a screw up somehow he's simultaneously an evil genius and also completely incompetent and just terribly dumb so it depends on what day it is are as funny at the end of our show this week our little editorial is about. we're egging the democrats the republicans on to impeach him because i think that would be very good for obama if they would go ahead and impeach him and i would like to challenge the republicans if ben ghazi is as awful as they say it is and let's get real there
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investigate it for the eighth time almost half of republicans in america say it's the worst scandal ever in american history absolutely worst scandal ever so if it's really that bad then isn't it your obligation to impeach him and that would be great because that would fire up the left wing base so i'd like to see the impeachment go for i like this in them put their money where their mouth is and get do you think that's partially racial. at least partially absolutely i think a lot of this country has never gotten over the fact that we elected it and not only just elected i think what really blew their minds was reelected you know the first time they could kind ok everybody experiments. this second time really bothered them because it's like wow america got a real good look at a black president and went for it again that i think psychologically was the most
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damaging thing that's happened them because of the bronco bamma that they want to people who saw him and still voted for their return of monica lewinsky. yes i defended her on the show last week you know i read the vanity fair article i was very moved by it this is a person who's basically spent almost twenty years now and from this person prison . she can't get a job that she says you know every time she goes and they make some excuse and we understand why because it's a distraction. probably a very bright when she went to the london school of economics i never met her but she does make a great point which is that she said if i'm so stupid how come my first job out of college was working at the white house also i kind of got on people who i think are hypocritical about getting down on her for the affair as it wasn't a she was in her early twenty's and if you remember back that far larry i barely do
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but i don't know girls in that age that's the experimental age like college age early twenty's late teens so that's when they're having sex with people they have no intention to stay with you know that and that's ok you know sex is not harmful if you you know take precautions and so forth so while other girls are having sex with you know i don't know the bouncer at the club and this idiot who lives next door to them in the condo and she's having sex with the president of the united states and said i'm talking with him she says it was an actual relationship that was intimidation and his communication they were gifts exchanged promises made. so you know the whole world is looking for five minutes with this guy and by the way this is when clinton was in his forty's he was very robust he was very well so she's having sex with the hottest guy in the world and our first job out of college is in the white house but she's the more you know i mean it looks like it was
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a fun relationship to lynn cheney on as lynne cheney suggested that the clintons were behind the lewinsky article that they had vanity fair publish it to get the story out of the way by that well it's a bit of a conspiracy theory but i mean. it wouldn't be the strangest thing i'd ever heard of in my life. it makes sense in july to want to win nakia late idea is good know the bit about monica's point was you know why now because hillary is most likely going to be the next next president and maybe for eight years and of course if that happens then she's going to lose another ten years of her life so c'mon let's how about a moratorium twenty years is a long time to be in and christian ethic is to forgive and forget what. you know just let her have a life. what do you make of the novato. mr bundy kleiman bundy and he is faced with the feds lots of the right wingers love this guy until until of course
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the relevant point is that they should not love them to begin with he's a scofflaw you know he somehow did the rule of law people except he didn't like him they liked him because he thumbed his nose at the federal government and as you know larry the federal government is always evil and needs to be drowned in the bath and so somebody like clive and bundy who does not let the revenuers from the government push them around he has of course a hero except he's not a hero he's a guy who didn't pay is grazing fees and by the way those people who are mad at the government on so much lead i'm glad the federal government owns that much lead because what would the other people do with it probably ruin it like they have with the rest of the country it's that's why the federal government owns a lot of land so we can preserve our national heritage it's all our land and some of that needs to stay pristine and polluted these idiots now when utah want to drive their a.t.v.'s into the land just because we say we can't do it yes let the
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eco system live somewhere and so logical it's what isn't logical plays larry. he now moves to the world of politics and she's slow do what is bill think about who might be the g.o.p. nominee will in the battlefield and does he think hillary's automatic as when somebody. may be very hard to take. on. that. really got her here. glenn
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. i think. everybody thought if you are still good you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy schreck albus. well. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and our crassus integral we've been hijacked by handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers once built that's my job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of
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what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem. rational debate and a real discussion critical issues facing define are you ready to join the movement then welcome to take. back with bill maher don't forget if you're in indianapolis he'll be at the murad theater on may thirty first was about you mentioned i didn't write oh i'm glad you do i think i don't think it's pronounced near it well is more apt s m u r a t how raw i think we don't pronounce it too whichever it is i'm funny about it how would you get there you are off when you're going to the theater like what this guy pronounce the name of that theater badly he's agreeing not a great show is that the car not the theater in rockford illinois on june seventh
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and of course you can't miss the great show on h.b.o. rockford files real time real time with bill maher is really friday night a must and they repeated seven thousand times in my career in the week chris christie does you have a future oh yeah. garbage removal i don't know but politics now i think he has a future i don't know. i think you know we did something about the fact that he should have run in two thousand and twelve because the longer you stay on the vine the more likely something like that is going to come up obama was very smart remember when he ran every said how can you run you down he been in the senate people don't even know who you are and he went exactly that's exactly the point they don't know who i am if i wait around in of the four years old i'm going to pick at more votes to use against me and chris christie if he was smart should have run in two thousand and twelve when he was still have that new candidate smell
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really good been indicted you know they yeah it's looking worse and worse because of course when the press doesn't cover the really important stories of the t.v. press anyway but boy when they get their hooks into something that scandalous they will just root and room out of the big medical you are and that's the funds you think the president's democratic liberal a liberal does something like this they're going to action it yeah yeah absolutely there's no prisoner that's right ok. a lot of people are saying the best race would be jeb bush and hillary clinton it would be issue oriented wouldn't go into the who would fall asleep well i wouldn't fall asleep but we're talking about two centrists corporatist type people who are going to left a little right a little left leg who are not really going to new vis country off the track it's on i can't see either one of them doing ending bold like demanding a carbon tax you know if you pick up the paper almost any day that we dissenting
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really really scary and frightening about the with the where the climate is going and i don't see either one of them and of course if you look at the polls the people in america these geniuses don't even have it on their list of top ten things to be worried about so it requires great leadership i think it's obviously the most important issue of our time requires great leadership i don't see it coming from either a hillary or a jeb bush you see it coming from anyone yes i think something like elizabeth warren one of the most gutsy people i've seen in politics in a long time she's somebody i think who would really say what she feels and she may never win anything but i'd love to see her her run with hillary about that a granny ticket. from around paul. rand paul i like his father i like half of them. you know half of them makes so much sense and says the things that nobody else to say. let's end the empire nothing in the constitution says america has to have an empire about droning let's bring the troops home he's not running as
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different drowning as they were drowning you attack that you love the fourth amendment you favor droning a citizen without a trial in another country well i thought you said droning in the morning about a citizen that's a different issue as well rand are all is made up that also i yes i do favor at the citizen we did drone i was in favor of that just because you're a citizen of america that should not serve as a shield to you if you are attacking americans which that guy was absolutely larry and say just because there's a flaw at the moment don't say stupid things in private well that's a very different reading of the fourth amendment we're talking about it don sterling and his living room had been talking about bombing the white house i would have a very different view about about that he still was taped and you're against the taping of him and making it public you know you got to be gay and have it both ways these are two different issues larry i can have it to do though they don't situation on you can't kill an american citizen without a trial you also cannot use the constitution as
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a shield if you are plotting against american citizens it's very different to be spouting off about whether your girlfriend brings a black guy to the ballgame is a little different than what out and more ella locky was doing which was inspiring people and plotting to kill americans and that should not be used as a shield as far as droning goes i'm sure we could do the droning program better but i was never in favor of invading iraq as a way to fight the war on terror which is really the war against muslim fundamentalism. but you have to do something i'm not for doing nothing so using whole armies against terrorists is a very bad idea because that's not who they are there's small bands of people anyone. the war on terror well you don't ever win it right it's like crime there will always be some crime but there are some people in the world who do need killing and drones do that better than armies we kill we know how many iraqis when we sent over the army that well
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a lot of them killed each other but hundreds of thousands at least a hundred thousand we haven't killed anyone near that number when we when we use the drones and what is it you need that said the botched education secu sion in oklahoma wasn't botched they killed him but should have been over they didn't care right that was pretty funny what do you make of the whole death penalty if that is the craziest situation because first of all this is a country that kills so much he would just talk about droning gun violence a texas texas alone right i mean killing is what we do in fact that we have this this issue with killing people i mean we're over thinking in this i mean none must be like what it's like to put them in a pit where the wild boar your people are thinking too hard about this why don't we just look here's here's we know how to make people fall asleep right get michael jackson's doctor in there ok he used to do it once you have them out. just tell them in any of the ways we know really do work gentlemen that team electrocute the
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firing squad did a lot of one stare out why do we have to like have this idea that we have to nudge them just ever so slightly into death like we're you know really doing idling name you know here. it's not humane about how you do it you're killing them ok so this whole idea that we have to have this cocktail of drugs for it's like the razor you know the first blade lift the chef the first drug kind of gets you sleepy and the second one puts you out and the third one you know terry it's like you're on a massage table with norah jones playing in the back it's insane knocked him out and kill them or just shoot them it's not a big thing do you favor the death penalty you know i always have in principle it's just that we don't do it well enough you know this to me they were invincible yes i mean i do favored principle i just think this to many people i think our justice
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system is too screwed blued and tattooed black and blacks or asians or that whites are not well i mean that's part of it there's a racial element that just is incompetent it that element to it you know that there are probably some innocent people be put to death but i think i would if it was may i would rather be put to death than live in solitary for seventy years we put people in solitary that is truly cruel and unusual punishment if you to be alone year after year after year we didn't use we used to do this very very sparingly now we do it all the time and that is the i think the issue that they should be talking about with prisons only if they reserve which is marijuana you've long been an advocate of this legalization it appears are a radical and behold obama said the other day that no one is no more dangerous than alcohol but he quickly stressed that he does see pot use as a bad habit and a vice well you know he's a politician he's got at that but it's not about the medical use. well of
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course for medical use i mean to talk to anybody who's used it for medical reasons and they will tell you that very often provides a solace that nothing else they tried that's coming everywhere but there's that but we don't have to use that excuse anymore it doesn't have to we don't have to have the fig leaf of oh i'm using it because i have this whatever it is i told them i had how about just because we want to because of all the drugs of all the mood altering agent you could get your hands on this is the one that's that's least harmful and also again a freedom issue how about that for the republicans where's the tea party on this this but to be that people love freedom so much what could be more cause for freedom that we're at and what happens in your own head how you treat what goes on in your own mind the mood you want to put yourself in so i think it's an issue that the republicans could steal if they were smart that's another issue where rand paul probably could take rand paul could be interesting because he quit his views on
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privacy his views on bringing the troops home and no more empire his views on stuff like drugs he's pretty good on race issues he said to mention he could steal millennial away from hillary clinton i don't think that i just a vote for hillary or you shot as many as how quickly the gay shoe has changed in this country more americans favor same sex marriage a football player is drafted he kisses is harder on television right ok yeah how did that happen so quickly the gays insisted but it is it is amazing that it was only maybe twenty years ago that the closest thing to a gay marriage was lies in minnelli and david geffen i mean when they were married that was a gay marriage i was invited. you didn't want to say. and yet they just they just insisted and of course the other thing i think that turned it around was television you know people don't really read the news they don't pay attention to
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the president. that much but they do watch television and once they saw gays on television shows wow they said look at this they were like oh ok you know when it's not that weird and then of course gay marriage in a couple of states and the world didn't fall apart and they kind of got it as recently as two thousand and four bush remember put karl rove put gay marriage on the ballot in key states and just because he knew it would get every redneck to come out and while they were in the booth that of course voted for bush and those are all people who were scared that gay marriage was going to screw up their life somehow i know you are critical of organized religion you made a great movie cloverlea just city rule you make them think you know that catholic church in the blue and it's attention played to can the zation team in making this john paul the second to saying the same two cents to say the john pope john and pope john paul two well they need some good publicity you know after the and i said
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yes larry with a little boy you think those well i mean that kind of fast tracked john paul i mean he you know he got it you need to make you know you need to confirm miracles to be a saint and he got his two in five years which is you know i'm just saying the man works quickly after he's dead because that's very quick i mean others say it's taken hundreds of years but john paul the second he just rolled up his sleeves and got those miracles like really and we know that there's no afterlife i mean i know in those no one knows you know in those regions intentionally added i've never said i was one hundred percent sure we don't know what happens but. you know what i'm pretty sure of is that it's not the myths that were described thousands of years ago by people who knew nothing of science and which people still to their intellectual embarrassment still cleave to today i doubt it's that god had
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a son. you know he's this orb of perfect energy powerful beyond imagination but he's got kids i i i'm guessing it's not that so you know we don't know we're you know i watch that show cosmos it's a great show science show or b week he's brilliant he's no aggressiveness and yeah and a great explainer asses and you know they go into the first episode it's a good the big bang theory which is the entire universe that's not just every planet every star piece every galaxy was in something the size of a marble when it exploded thirteen point eight billion years ago and when you hear that and you hear that everything in the universe all the planets in the stars in this and we're in something size or marble you kind of want to go you know give me the jesus thing that's just that's even crazier but i know they're right thank you bill they're always the best things larry is great is that he is one of the
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funniest and most incisive people on the planet we thank him for joining us on this edition of politicking for my viewers out there want to hear from you join the conversation on my facebook page for shape. at. all. well. it's technology innovation all the developments from around russia we've got this huge area covered. pearl.
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led. pearl. i would bet that. a society case big corporation kind of can. do. the bank all that all about the money and the balance that for a politician to write the laws and regulations that. there's just too much. of a society. that. what's
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happening people i'm out in martin and this is great in the sat so yesterday we learned from two anonymous pentagon officials that the army is trying to move whistleblower chelsea manning from a military prison in fort leavenworth kansas to a civilian prison now the whole reason behind the move is because manning is seeking treatment for her gender dysphoria a condition in which a woman is trapped inside of a man's body or vice versa see unlike civilian prisons the army can't provide manning's requested treatment because then it would have to acknowledge that transgendered people exist in the world of course officially transgendered individuals are also barred from serving in the u.s. military goes on at the very least it's a good thing that the army is trying to accommodate manning's necessary treatment but how sad is this that our life may be put in harm's way just because the military is still operating with a twentieth century mindset civilian prisons are notoriously more dangerous than
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military ones in fact manning's lawyer david coombs had this to say about the situation is that the military's refusal to provide necessary medical treatment to chelsea is flat out transphobia rather than deal with the reality that transgendered persons are currently serving in the military the military would seek to pawn off and responsibility so if you want to see the army live up to its obligations and provide chelsea with the treatment she needs and deserves and join me and let's break this. the. it was a relief very hard to take over. again. when you have had sex with her right there looking.
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back in january a federal pills court shocked the online world by allowing internet service providers the ability to manipulate the speed of web traffic this ruling is now pave the way for the destruction of net neutrality a concept that has existed since the inception of the internet providing all users equal treatment and access well today the federal communications commission or of c c voted to move forward on a proposal that could completely change the internet we know one law of this has been met with fierce opposition by open internet activists and today they rallied outside the f.c.c. breaking a separate or cody cell has
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a story. well activists have come out in full force today and gathered in front of the f.c.c. headquarters to voice of their concern over a proposal that many say could be the end of the internet as we know it now earlier today the absentee voted to release chairman tom wheeler his new proposed rules for broadband internet providers to the general public and these new rules could potentially allow web providers such as comcast and arising to establish a paid to play system in which traffic would be divided into slow and fast lanes leading to. a major advantage for companies that can afford to pay for higher speeds now backlash from the internet community has already pushed were to revise his original proposal to specifically give the f.c.c. the power to examine any deal that would put nonpaying companies at a disadvantage but activists here are saying that this proposal doesn't go really far enough to ensure access to a free and open internet for all they're calling for broadband to be classified as a public utility and have the equivalent regulation of electricity and water
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a public utility is something that we all use so you know you're roads are a public utility when you have a phone line in your house it's a public utility why does the internet why is the internet any different right now we're facing a frightening future in which there be a fast lane for mega corporations like the rise in comcast essentially a tiered internet which would allow them to flood the internet with their content to dominate the internet in essence at the expense of the rest of us so startups nonprofits small news organizations would be suffocating under these new rules that would destroy the things we prize internet for like entrepreneurship innovation creativity free and fair information sharing it's unconscionable it's it would be like telling people you can't buy a newspaper you can't have access you can't print in a newspaper you can't communicate with people if they make our speech controlled meaning we don't have the free access to high speed and able to connect all services that so an infringement of our rights and we're not going to sit back and
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take that lightly it will also impact average consumers because it means you're going to pay more for access to the internet and you're going to face a system where you might be able to pay for a basic internet service but then if you want to fastlane to facebook and youtube and sites that use every day you could have to pay more for that and what you won't get is you won't get fast access to your uncle's blog you won't get fast access to the next startup you won't get fast access to non popular speech and that has dramatic. impacts on the economy on free speech on the internet and the future of this country so clearly you can see that the issue of net neutrality is vitally important to all of those here today as well as internet users around the country and no matter what happens next with these proposed rules those that have gathered in front of the absolutely today will not be satisfied until air net of corporate manipulation and discrimination is only cemented and codified in front of the absentee buildings of downtown d.c. . breaking the set. so now that you've got
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a sense of what happened on the ground today outside we have to see i want to get a perspective of neutrality that's rarely discussed how creative entrepreneurs particularly in a kind of musician as an artist will suffer in a post not in tragedy world to discuss just that i'm joined now by casey rae director of the future of music coalition casey thanks so much for joining me thank you as an advocate for fairness in music independent musicians i want you to explain to our audience how does music relate to net neutrality that's a level playing field i mean independent musicians in particular don't have the resources that these giant companies have so they're going to use these open internet platforms to try the next new innovation you know reach fans an audience and basically they need some guarantee that their creativity and their you know business model is going to have a shot at succeeding in this digital environment absolutely and let's talk about how music online is already online could be affected by a post end of the world and terms of sound quality or access to the music for sure
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well you know when you think about music it's not just three file anymore music is an indispensable layer of all kinds of media so we're in a post media or a mixed media environment and we don't want to disadvantage tomorrow's creators in trying out new things in creating amazing and exciting new content we want that content to have an opportunity of reaching fans even if the creator of that content doesn't have the deepest pockets and i was even thinking like sound quality like sound cloud i mean if they pay these internet service providers the money i mean who knows how that will be a fair. it is all to simply listen to music that's right and you know there's been a lot of talk on the musician side about which business models work better than others and some musicians feel that spotify or some of those big platforms might not be the best deal economically well you want a fighting chance at something that might be more workable for musicians where's that going to come from probably not the big corporate side maybe it's going to come from a smaller innervate or like a developer or whatever and i think it's really important to for artists and
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developers and folks who create these platforms to realize that their incentives are aligned here we want to get that music to people we want people to find it in the most exciting ways we want the creators to be compensated and we want them to have a fighting shot and is this why the future of music coalition signed this letter to the f.c.c. chair tom wheeler one of the letters say and who was involved in the draft we're so lucky we worked for fourteen years with a lot of really great musicians from bands as big as pearl jam all the way down to you know developing artists and it's a really powerful thing when you've got folks like eddie vedder from michael stipe formally of r.e.m. i mean ghazi the legendary. united just signed this letter how cool is that so we feel that the you know the artist speaking for themselves from a place of conviction is the most important thing lot of the future of music coalition or independent artists label owners and so on and so forth so we know what it's like to be having to compete with these big companies because in the old
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days it was hard to get a record into a record store it's hard to get a record on radio we know what it's like when there's a bottlenecks in gate keepers so an online level online playing field is crucial to the independents it indeed is and you talked earlier about spotify how this might affect some streaming services such as that of course major streaming services kind of forward in this fast here and of course tech startups might not be able to if they're trying to get and they're trying to get to that advantage casey how will this also affect the pennant musicians i know that you can. it is outlined that but just to expand upon that yeah i think you really just hit the nail on the head right if you don't like the current system that might be controlled by major labels or giant companies that have enough venture capital investment to do anything they that they want in this space then you're going to want an alternative independent artists are always in a really unique position to pivot because they're the ones that can make the use of those innovations more quickly the major labels that's like steering the titanic you know so all of the really exciting things that we've seen happen in music from
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twitter to youtube of qana been embraced by artists who are a little less afraid to try new things and that's really really powerful i also think this is important not just for the independent musicians but also independent labels because getting back to that point that i made before in the old days it was really really hard to compete against the major labels and pretty much controlled the entire space where music was concerned this net neutrality concept the idea that delivering your content to the end user is going to happen without unnecessary interference is really crucial for all of k.c. we were talking before this started about the concept of neutrality and we've been kind of fighting we've been trying to tell me about this for years and years and no one kind of grasp it i think now it's kind of in the mainstream consciousness this is really about the freedom of the internet is kind of a vague term that's now kind of becoming cemented a lot of people's minds and what's at stake talk about what happened today to this proposal tom wheeler and how his background as a former telecom lobbyist wall affected the outcome of this well you know on some
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level that is the washington culture and you go work for these guys for a little while and you go into government you go work for these guys a little while but you know chairman wheeler also has worked for you know internet entrepreneurs and this sort of vacuum unity so you know at least you can perceive the space i think that sometimes these folks need a nudge and what i'm really really encouraged by is that the general public understands us at a level that they might not have been five years ago or the last time that we had this debate and that's because the internet really does feel like a utility. it's our lifeline it's our main communications portable portal it's how everything we do everything from sharing recipes from grandma to downloading a movie you know it's really powerful and people get that and i think that at the most basic what people want to do is feel like if they're paying one hundred bucks a month comcast or whatever their provider is they don't want that provider to interfere with the content that they have chosen the lawful content that they have chosen to write we want to take the chance that they'll. be biased or
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discriminatory and i have to mention that tom wheeler is also putting out one hundred twenty day review comments section we got a flood that's how i know that you guys are planning on fighting to be about twenty seconds left everything that you want without is right i mean every week you get really excited about like let's share this memo on facebook but you've got to stay in the process we've got one hundred twenty days to tell them that we need the strongest rules that can give us that baseline level playing field so we can have a shot at getting our music out there to people for decades to come let's cement net neutrality once and for all thank you so much casey you are a director future music coalition really coming on that's coming up you guys i'll talk about a trigger happy f.b.i. agent who's gotten away with murder say ten. i think. it was like the old you just did you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy albus. in
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fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the quote for the takeover of our government and i was proud cynical we've been hijacked like handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers once all just i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem. rational debate and real discussion critical. issues facing not to find her guilty ready to join the movement then welcome to the third. floor this was the washington well as the misleading entry is being suggested in the latest numbers among the many candidates are perceived as more an issue that actually back you and doesn't do too much for ad revenue my own tech agriculture
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giant teeth on a seventy six year old american farmer based in india fallout do you think this is going to create for the cia do you think this is what's triggering a great america is the largest economy in the world it's also the largest debtor nation in the history of the world breaking the set is mostly about alternatives to the status quo one might give real terms of points to the working poor the american dream the next they were just trying to survive it's time for americans and lawmakers in washington to wake up and start talking about the real causes of.
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last year the city of boston was shaken when its annual marathon was tragically bombed we've been three people dead and two hundred sixty four others injured the alleged mastermind behind the deadly attacks. was killed in a shootout with boston police his little brother an alleged cope perpetrator joe har is now waiting trial and potentially facing execution but the insanity ensuing from last year's horror there was one story largely swept under the rug the bizarre execution of a twenty seven year old chechen american man named in the beginning scares me to have since it all showed was interrogated by state and federal officials at his orlando apartment for four hours about a month after the bombings about his alleged association with the surnames but before any connection was proven he was shot and killed first the official f.b.i. narrative said that he was in the process of writing a confession to a triple homicide completely unrelated to the boston bombings one of broccoli you flipped out pulled out a gun then the story changed to a sword then they said he threw
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a chair then an entire coffee table which they claim struck on the officials in the head that's when law enforcement claimed to dosh of ran into the kitchen and armed himself with a metal broom handle on the unfolding story quickly fell apart when they were forced to admit he was completely armed but being trained in martial arts they ended up claiming that his body was the weapon and he attacked them with the pole thereby justifying the use of deadly force however mere days before he was killed today had serious knee surgery that rendered him unable to walk without crutches so it remains unclear how it is that how he was able to pose a serious threat in the end to the ship was shot seven times once in the head and unfortunately we know more than little details about his death because the f.b.i. blocked local authorities from releasing the autopsy report last year i spoke with you brigham's wife running to da shop about what happened and why she thinks her husband was executed. and i do that now i can say why. it was just
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you. i don't really don't know. if you saw the big five deadly shots they were trying to say there was a self-defense they were trying to stop him that is so an acceptable to wear how you started first and there is not a single shot in them our. legs anywhere three in heart and one in lever one in the head so that's just a straight down. indeed it was deadly despite multiple investigations launched to get answers in an internal f.b.i. review and the florida state attorney who recently cleared the f.b.i. agent who fatally shot to shove of any wrongdoing in the florida prosecutor's ruling stated that the actions of the special agent in the f.b.i. were justified in self-defense and in defense of another the other state trooper present at the time of the shooting stands in solidarity with the special agent claiming that he was in fear of his life that the shooting was indeed justified what a shock over the last year the f.b.i. in massachusetts and the florida state officials have kept the identity of those
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involved secret for fear of repercussions thanks to act and documents obtained exclusively by the boston globe we can now identify the f.b.i. agent who ended up executing to shots as agent aaron. and wouldn't you know mcfarlane was an oakland police officer before becoming a special agent no wonder he shoots to kill turns out this guy is quite the controversial record in a short time on the o.p. force see mcfarlane worked with the opie during the biggest scandal in the department's history between two thousand and four i'm sorry between two thousand and two thousand and four when the boston globe opened fired four police officers who called themselves the rioters after prosecutors filed criminal charges against them in two thousand on accusations of beating and kidnapping people making false arrests planting evidence and falsifying police reports now mcfarlane testified in defense of the writers when it came to light that was also fraudulently filing police reports at the request of the main writers he ended up pleading the fifth to
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prevent further incrimination against himself but it turns out that he was in legal trouble also for committing the same types of acts as the writers and two thousand and three mcfarlane was sued twice for as egregious behavior as an oakland police officer first for beating both a man outside of a hospital and a witness who saw that beating and for falsely arresting that witness another case was a similar falls in prison in prison meant. an unlawful beating sounds like a really really great guy serving and protecting by singling out witnesses and beating the crap out of them good job after serving a long and hard four years in the police force mcfarlane complained of injuring his leg and i never tired with a hefty pension or more than fifty two thousand dollars annually for the rest of his life but apparently that injury didn't deter me from joining the f.b.i. as a special agent and besides that the offer of killing we don't even know what he's been up to for the last ten years according to carol rose executive director of
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a.c.l.u. of massachusetts we still don't know what even happened nor why the explanations from those who were present at the shooting have been inconsistent suggesting at various times that mr to dosh allegedly threatened agents and clued in with a knife a pipe a stick or pole an agent's gun the system a martial arts training or even a samurai sword. unfortunately the investigators on the case of one even able to interview mcfarlane about what happened and simply had to make their ruling based on statements from the agent this own or should prove the reports inconclusive and the investigation should be reopened but don't hold your breath the new york times through a four year requests between one thousand nine hundred three and two thousand and eleven f.b.i. agents fatally shot about seventy subjects and wounded eighty others and in every single case the agent's use of force were determined to be justified one thing is clear though when a federal agency corden
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a tz with so many forces trying to suppress the truth and even the name of a public officer that works for us usually there's something to hide. this week over one hundred academic signatories including two nobel prize laureates and several. current u.n. officials published an open letter to the nonprofit organization human rights watch the letter condemns the organization and calls on it to close its revolving door with the u.s. government that's because while the watchdog organization claims its mission is to quote defend the right of people worldwide a closer look at its board members and donors reveals a far more political agenda and all one has to do is simply look at its history and see a clear bias on the reporting of global conflicts from syria to venezuela and i did reach out to human rights watch for a statement but unfortunately we never heard back so break down some of the h r w
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the hypocrisy is i'm joined now by one of the signatories journalism activist thank you so much for coming on pleasure so keep why you guys drop this letter and talk about how many established people are on board and how do you get those people well there's like you said their student peace prize laureates. pettus s.q.l. from argentina read mcguire from ireland and there's also the former u.n. assistant secretary of general hans von sponeck and also the current un special rapporteur on human rights in palestine richard falk in addition we have over one hundred different scholars researchers academics authors who are in some way or another involved in these kinds of questions and basically it's a very simple demand that if you claim to be an independent human rights organization then express that independence by severing your revolving door ties to the u.s. government and if you take
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a closer look at the ways in which you have personnel from advisory committee members to high level staff positions to boards of board of director members all of them are in some way or another many of them rather are compromised by conflicts of interest and can you give us a couple examples of that i think the most astonishing one is the case of miguel diaz miguel diaz in the one nine hundred ninety s. was a cia analyst focusing. central america he then went on to serve on the advisory committee for human rights in the americas after those eight years on that board on the advisory committee he left to join the state department and now his official role is described as serving as an interlocutor between the intelligence community and non-government experts so it really opens up a very astonishing form of conflicts of interest absolutely and let's talk about some examples of this of people who don't really understand how this would really
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play out and their reporting in syria for example aleppo there's a couple million people that are deprived of water being cut off by the rebels there of correspond certain large part by the u.s. and the and western allies and they've largely omitted this aspect of the reporting talk about kind of the reporting and syria and yeah i mean venezuela well i think that in syria there's an interesting point to be made about the way that they denounce were crimes and i think that they're accurate and we write this in the letter that they are accurate in condemning the use of missiles for example on the part of the syrian government what they will refuse to do is couldn't deb the obvious into a violation of international law which is consistent with the u.s. using the threat of force which is prohibited under the u.n. charter and when president obama used that threat of missiles that was in clear violation of the u.n. charter and on that key issue rights watch silent furthermore if you look at the
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research that they that they did after the the chemical. and the chemical strike in syria if you look closely at their research that was later pretty clearly debunked by an mit researcher who showed that the trajectories of the missiles which they claimed connected very closely with the syrian military base it would. it impossible given the radius of the actual missile which was three kilometers not nine kilometers so that may be an honest mistake but then you have to correct that but i think that the key issue is that question the violation of sovereignty by the united states in the international system superpowers can simply issue completely that prohibition on the violation of sovereignty and they can commit acts of aggression wars of aggression which under the nuremberg conventions are considered
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the supreme international crime human rights watch makes a very explicit point about remaining silent on that question so the most egregious cases of violations of human rights let's take the invasion of iraq by the united states and its allies which killed perhaps a million people chemical weapons during those as well while in the case of the iraq invasion human rights watch explicitly said that we do not take a position on the validity of that invasion so that's one of the key components of a way in which they use international law in a very narrow sense when it comes to war war related behaviors but they won't say anything about the validity of actual. aggressive action is very very interesting and like i briefly mentioned as well and of course there's a lot to get into but you've written about extensively about their their coverage of latin american issues and the coups kind of just their perception of the quds haiti honduras and venezuela the recent protests there but i want to move on to
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their donor ship who is backing human rights watch well it's interesting if you look at the two co-chairs they're both investment bankers if you look at their vice chair he's a senior managing he's a senior manager at the blackstone group which is a private equity fund created by. the kind of tory is a billionaire who's passionately sought to viscera social security and medicare and i think that what that gives you a sense of the. is there a large silence on the arena of human rights where it comes to social and economic rights the fact that the right to housing the right to food the right to employment the right to those kinds of social services those are largely kept away from the kind of narrow focus on. civil liberties and other kinds of individual rights we have about thirty seconds left of course george soros also be back i know that he's very interested maintaining the status quo and status quo who can we
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trust think of what organizations we go to to get the truth because i think a lot of people trust him and rights watch and see all these organizations what do you suggest for our viewers well what i suggest is to look at some of their rely on amnesty rely on human rights watch but also look much more closely and have a much more critical eye because human rights watch does do some good work but what you also see is there advocacy efforts overlaying closely with the foreign policy priorities of the u.s. government and that's why we're demanding a closure if that revolving door thank you so much came out really appreciate the measure that's our show you guys trying to get to my own to break this up all over again. i know c.n.n. the m s n b c news have taken some knocks lately but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be
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accurate. that was funny but it's closer to the truth and i think. it's because one politician and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on you look. at our team news we have a different. because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not. you guys stick to the jokes will handle them.
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i think. everybody. did you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy shrek help us. a little. bit like you know i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying the truth rational debate and a real discussion critical issues facing america ready to join the movement then welcome to the big city. oh i'm tom hartman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. american pharmaceutical giant pfizer is currently in talks to buy british drug company i was present for
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one hundred six billion dollars if the deal goes through pfizer would get to change from being an american company to a british one why would they want to know what does that say about our loophole and the tax code also six years ago saturday the supreme court declared racial segregation in public schools unconstitutional how much has changed since then and what do we need to do to keep the legacy of brown before a lot and every once in a while some crazy right winger like louie gohmert so that the things have gotten so more sure and then those time for is great to see i say let a bleed i'll explain why in tonight's. you need to know this america as
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a whole lot of welfare queens you're rich off the public dime cheap to cheat the taxpayers and rob the government blind or parasites it's time to cut them off from their life blood don't worry i'm going all bill reilly on you all the kind of welfare queens that republicans like bo riley are always talking about people live by are supposedly way too generous anti-poverty programs the really not that big of a problem in fact arguably they're not even a problem welfare queens i'm talking about are the massive corporations who by some estimates cost the average american family that see you around six thousand dollars a year per family in subsidies and give us these massive corporations and their defenders in the media are always whining about how robs them of their god given right to record profits. but there really should be singing big government's praises after all the taxpayer money to the tune of billions of dollars a year that makes the business models possible go to the cato institute that's
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right the former charles koch foundation federal subsidies to big corporations like koch give those trees cost americans around one hundred billion dollars every single year and that's just at the federal court in the new york times each year state and local governments in the united states spend more than eighty billion dollars or roughly seven percent of the total budgets on tax breaks and subsidies to attract investments from companies but direct subsidies like these are really only one of the most obvious ways for big corporations to leech off the public one of the most insidious kinds of corporate welfare is actually inside the tax code itself thanks to tens of thousands of loopholes the effective corporate tax rate in the united states is only around thirteen percent the lowest effective corporate tax rate in the entire world this saves giant corporations another two hundred billion dollars every year and while every big business abuses this tax code some are more guilty of it than others one of the worst checks cheats is pfizer massive
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pharmaceutical company that just a few years ago in two thousand and twelve paid zero income taxes on the seventy three billion dollars in profits it stashed overseas even though they made those yes to use of the american com it's that windfall apparently wasn't enough for pfizer though right now the company is in talks to buy a british drug maker astra zeneca for one purpose and one purpose only ripping off even more the american taxpayers joining me for now and now for more on this is my pappa tell me america's lawyer and host a ring of fire radio and ring of fire t.v. pap welcome back to. just great so what is the deal here advisor trying to buy astra zeneca i mean would buys or really buy another company just to cheat on its axis well of farms or is one of those companies that you. uses our infrastructure they use our police departments they use our fire they use they take advantage of the in i take of national institutes of health in basically stealing from them to
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make their new drugs we give them patent protection in the federal system we give them treated first protection they use our military they they they then take taxpayers' money in addition to all that taxpayers' money they take taxpayers' money because we use their product to give to medicare and medicaid in the v.a. so they make a ton of money by taking from taxpayers now their position is it's a one way street in read who's the c.e.o. and really is really part of the hall of shame of c o o's he says look i want to take everything from the united states but then i want to go to the u.k. because i don't want to pay any taxes now this is after those same taxpayers you and me that i'm talking about have already given this company two point two billion dollars a year in tax refunds that's not enough that's after you and i tom and the people watching this show have already given them the right to hold seventy three billion
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dollars off shore in tax havens where they don't pay any taxes but that's not enough so this is the this is a predator company and the c.e.o. of this company is one of the bought the true bottom feeder c.e.o.'s that basically you talk about in some of the things you've written about the new structure of the c.e.o. i borrow from one of some what i'm saying from what you've already written yeah well thank you mike and i'm honored. so pfizer wants to this is called an inversion there's actually a name for this becoming a foreign company on paper just to get a different tax rate and so the c.e.o. can make a fortune off his stock options why. is america continue to allow this to be illegal. well the truth is we could do something about it immediately ok you have an administration that tomorrow could do something immediately and it has to do
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with government contracts take them away if you don't want to be in america if you're not proud enough to call yourself an american company then we're going to take your american contract if you're not proud enough eyes or if you're not proud enough even read you bottom feeders c.e.o. then what we're going to do is we're going to take your v.a. money away from you we're not going to use your money to sell it and to use in v.a. to buy your product or we're not going to use it for medicare we're not going to use it for medicaid we could close their offshore banks and we could punish them for wanting to call themselves an american for everything we have to offer by taxpayers their protection we give them the infrastructure we give them all of these benefits we give them they want to call themselves america we could punish him by saying ok you want to do business overseas there's got to be a prize for this building that you keep here in new york right there on forty second street you're going to have to pay some extraordinary taxes for that but no we won't do that we won't do that because the american chamber of commerce has
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taken complete complete control of the legislative process in this country and a company like fives or is gets a one way street for them but a it is a one way street it's all take and it's no given even raw even read is a poster boy for what's become ugly about the new american c.e.o. it's called shareholder value ideology is the way they dress this thing up is they're actually new concept there actually is one mechanism although you know back in one thousand thirty five there was a law passed at the behest of franklin roosevelt called the buy america act and what it says is that anything that the federal government buys or any contractor working on behalf of the federal government has to be sourced from an american corporation. that law was largely followed up until the one nine hundred eighty s. during the reagan administration they started passing out waivers like crazy because of that loss of that american so that when you know government when the
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government was buying military stuff the military contractors could source their stuff overseas and by the end of the reagan administration just became routine that continued through the clinton ministration it continued through the bush administration and it has continued through the obama administration but the law is still on the books i mean obama could say you know you become a british company and no more militant you know the v.a. is no longer going to buy or drugs medicare is no longer going to pay for your drugs i mean you know that law is still on the books. well i mean it goes as far as you can say you want use of our police department you don't have to pay money you want to have our fire department you have to pay money you want you want to use of our bridges in our streets to to haul your products across the country you're going to have to pay money the truth is this is an extraction a predatory extraction machine run by in reed and fives or it's such an extraction machine tom here's the second part of it that is very important they have become such an extraction machine they don't spend money on research and development
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anymore ok they're not trying to find new drugs any new drugs they get they get directly from the and i were taxpayers pay for what they do now is they say their whole game is to try to figure out how to make a profit on the drugs they have had to maximize those in you know who pays for that when they do put a new product on the market the reason fires are year after year is in the news killing people with their drugs is because of their lack of research and development in read has turned all that attention to how do we extract everything we can out of what we have why because it's short term profits for a guy like me and reid he's there for five six seven years he wants to extract every dime he can and leave it for the next guy to figure out the sustainability of this company it's the new c.e.o. model tom yeah and it's wrong. the last two minutes here we go to court and center for public integrity the chamber of commerce has been funneling
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a lot of money into state attorney general races this is this is pretty amazing each year state and local governments as they spend more than eighty billion dollars roughly seven percent of their budgets on tax breaks and subsidies to attract investments from companies but that's separate from the thing. but why the interest in a.g. races this started tom with one of the cases i handle which of the the national tobacco litigation why. we did in that case is we got attorney generals to do what no what the government wouldn't do we got state attorney generals to go after our jr riddles and close them down if they didn't pay for all the carnage they have lead left in the state medicaid system so what you're asked chamber of commerce said is they start to see in private lawyers like me going to the a.g.'s say look you aren't capable of handling a big case against a company like fives or when pfizer sells defective drugs to the medicare system or
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the medicaid system let me handle it and at the end of it you pay me a percentage according to what i recover for the state now that was the only way to go after a company like r.j. our reynolds wolf eyes are a merck or any of these corrupt companies but so the a.g. the a.g.t. was the vehicle between you know trying to solve consumer issues trying to get mom and pop pension program pension money back from wall street the a.g. was the vehicle to do that now if the chamber of commerce owns all the a.g.'s all that goes away in right now there are thirty one a.g. races out of thirty one a.g.'s up for election this next in the u.s. chamber of commerce is pouring a ton of money to try to win all those rays literally bind the top the top completely on the top amaze my pap and tony always great to see it happen thank you thanks for being with us coming up thanks to the f.c.c.
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the unscrewed news net neutrality is hanging on by the thinnest of threads earlier today the f.c.c. formally proposed new rules that would allow companies like net like netflix to play internet service providers like comcast to add their contents to customers at faster speeds at decision which divided the f.c.c. along party lines came after weeks of protests from consumer advocates who worry that the new rules are to create internet fast lanes for companies that can afford to pay for faster speeds c.f.c. see vote in hundreds of protesters gathered outside its washington d.c. and borders demanding that the agency protect net neutrality and start regulating the internet like a public utility if c.c.
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did not listen to these protesters this time around is the comment period on its proposed rules begins their activism will be more important than ever who want to keep the internet our information commons open and free joining me now for more on this is benwick lark senior strategist for move on dot org who spoke in today's rally in front of the f.c.c. ben welcome thank you very much some great good to have you with us so you were there what happened i was outside the f.c.c. while they were causing trouble inside the f.c.c. i'm afraid to say there were hundreds or is about the dynamic in both places yeah well you know there's been occupy the f.c.c. protesters outside the building now for several weeks and chairman we were actually came out and spoke to the protesters at one point really yeah he would say not today the previous day so today you know they were in there having their hearing there i think four people stood up and protested and you know and they got their you know that's right. but it was one of these moments where we were kind of there's a show of force of the public there's a digital sign that of us that are brought that showed three point four million
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people around the world in the u.s. have signed on to petitions in support of this they're also move on dot org members outside of the offices of twenty different f.c.c. locations around the country so this is a you know huge so you get up right over three million activists a lot of them you know and what ten fifteen twenty companies that want the time we're going to be doing what he's doing yeah it's a tiny handful and really there's a few right at the top like comcast i would say most of all and we're going to be seeing them assembly seba that's right so therefore they probably will not be having this conversation probably not exactly the same conversation we're having these guys have tons of lobbyists the lobbyist have been there in force wearing suits you saw the footage the activists are out there in t. shirts but the activists actually have the public on their side people count on a free and open internet at this point people see it as part of free speech why. are they not responding why why not just do a title two thing and say you know the internet is just like the phone company the phone company can't listen in on my phone conversation and based on the content of
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my conversation decide how much they're going to charge me for a minute you know why can't we just do well we still can't so what happened today was actually the starting gun for a race it's essentially a race between big money and people power and over the next sixty days what you're going to see is millions of public comments flowing into the f.c.c. you'll see the lobbyists twisting arms you'll see protesters you know holding signs marching up and down outside of headquarters and the outcome of these sixty days is really what determines what happens with net neutrality this was this was a process that there's a what can people do over the next sixty days the first thing you can do is call the f.c.c. people have been calling so much that they literally turned off their phones they've never had this kind of pressure before but this is when it counts you should call them on the phone you should go to move on dot org or save the internet or go sign petitions and then you should submit public comments with your own story about why this matters moo. not organized as has been collecting stories from members we've heard from for example teachers who use virtual field trips school budgets have been cut so they can actually take real field trips now and they do
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video tour of the places instead but if those videos start stuttering because the people who set up the virtual field trips can't pay the way that you know a big company like netflix going to a million bucks to have come to exactly that makes education even worse i mean it's an underhanded cut and something that should be a public service then you're doing brilliant work thanks so much for being with us tonight thanks so much for having rates meacher or to have. been the best of the rest of the news sixty years ago this saturday the united states supreme court made what was arguably the best decision in its history on may seventeenth one nine hundred fifty four they ruled unanimously in the case of brown v board of education that racial segregation in public schools violated the fourteenth amendment of the constitution separate but equal the courts was inherently funny although met with fierce resistance to the jim crow era south of
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brown v board decision changed american history forever and set in motion events that led eventually to the passage of the civil rights legislation of the one nine hundred sixty s. joining me now to talk more about the brown decision and his legacy is joe madison to the joe madison show hey joe welcome back thank you great to see him so your take on where we are sixty years later well it's a mixed bag i've been to you. presidents of both teachers union in t. and they both agree that it is it is a mixed bag in terms of ironically schools are more segregated now in the north racially segregated than they were in the south at the time of brown versus board of education and a lot of that has to do with. with the economy and housing patterns. and and but then there's also more diversity for example
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the president of a have t. said at the time that brown versus board of education was decided that they had actually snatched the charter of several of their unions that had been segregated they took the moral stand and i was absolutely amazed i didn't realize that that happened in one nine hundred fifty four. so it's a mixed bag to be to be honest but also but there's also the the good news out of washington d.c. and several other states that have early childhood education that that's the best money that can be spent is early childhood education on the part of public schools then there is the conflict between public schools and charter schools that are also having somewhat of an impact but but basically what it boils down to is that
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the brown what brown did was that it changed this country dramatically it's not just that it wasn't just the socialization of black and whites but here we are not global economy seventy five percent of the part of the world are people of color and we live and so you're going to have to learn how to do business with people of all different colors and that's and i don't think brown recognized that but you know what i found interesting and i didn't realize as i talk to the daughter of reverend brown the namesake. he never met thurgood marshall really he that's what he did and she said that's one of the things that most people are very surprised that into a peek at cannes is. their good martial really never met the movie the
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lead plaintiff in the case and they may not before and not after and you have to understand this was a combination of i think about five cases. that that one of the mood was right here in washington d.c. and they had all been defeated in lower courts and that's what they had in common but the first scudi segregation case was not or was not brown it was eight hundred forty nine eight hundred forty nine school desegregation had been there there had been fights to desegregate public schools in this country or throughout the country eight hundred forty nine was one of the first school desegregation cases in boston. yeah which is where slavery was illegal yes is this is before the study was done because that's that's remarkable to what extent i mean there's there's been a lot written over the last. there's just been a lot written about last decades i suppose about the kind of research geisha of
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america and as you pointed out in many places in the north you get schools that are more segregated and they were in the south back sixty years ago. brown dealt with education. isn't the or is correct me if i'm wrong the education segregation. a resegregation a symptom of the larger problem of you know people living in neighborhoods having local schools and living in areas because of basically discrimination that is saying no the this is these kind of jobs are not available or these. that that i don't i'm not saying that's what i think i know where you're going let's start with one one red line and you know yeah that's all these are the things but let's start with one one correction here and that was that the n.a.c.
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pm brown versus board of education and as i learned talking to the attorneys was not just about the desegregation of schools what they wanted to do was really overturned plessy versus ferguson which is what they did that's exactly what it was it was to overturn the whole issue of separate but equal people have to remember that that plessy versus ferguson introduced for all part of the codified and legally that's legally created and substantiated jim crow. and that there were investing back try and remember now what happened in the supreme court dealt with de facto. and de jure segregation so it address de jure segregation which was the law but but but they went after they wanted brown to go after public accommodation so it was a whole series of things that they were they were hoping brown would go after what
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you're describing is de facto segregation and what i've always said about inner gratian when people have asked me to define it. i remember a definition that dr martin luther king gave. and that is that integration is really the sharing of power resources and responsibility so people what they segregated was power and remember now it was the phrase all deliberate speed which meant be deliberate you don't have to rush and there was so much pushback from from brown versus board of education let me give you an example in the commonwealth of virginia instead of actually. dealing with brown opening up the public schools they closed the commonwealth of virginia closed all their public schools. the whole state and so what happened was they
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started create whites created the religious schools private schools would that wasn't under brown and and black children their parents literally had to send them out of state to get up an education or home school. their home schooling i mean that wasn't even a thought but that but that but that's that's why there was so much pushback so what what what what what what brown did was and this speaks to we may live in separate neighborhoods but the reality is what we enter great is power when we integrate that resource and that's the big next challenge that's. legal matters and it's always great to see you thanks so much for being with us. coming up your take my take a lot even if you have skype want to chance to be next week's your take my take lives are going head over your computer right now give us a call our skype id is talk to top will be right back.
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chances are forcing at. least. six margins in the finish line of the marathon. well it. was probably a good month for her. at. this site but i think it kind of can. do and. thank you i think it's all about money and i have a family that for politicians like the lot and. i'm. here just to lead. today's.
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welcome here take my take live before we get the first video question and i want to tell you about something new we're doing every thursday will now be taking skype calls during our your take my take live segment so if you have skype call us up on the skype id talk to tom t.h.o. well and we're recorder scott question and air them next week so get skype right now at this point let's go to our first video comment for the night emailed to us at your take you can still do video comments by the way where you just turn your phone sideways point yourself record you know or your computer or whatever record or e-mail it to your take my take at g.-mail dot com here's our first one. mr hartman thank you for taking my video i have a question for you how many people in the united states realize that just because you are a veteran that you do not automatically get health care from the veterans administration
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has a. minor disability but it took me years and years of paperwork to get any access to health care as root. i still have to buy health care through a health insurance plan like anybody else my suggestion is to break the back of the problem of the v.a. health care system let's provide immediate access to all veterans who aren't discharge honorably from our services let's give them access to medicare let's let them take their d two fourteen to the some security office and i fly for medicare the day after they are discharged that's brilliant that's absolutely brilliant. it's a in answer to your first question which i you know might have been rhetorical but it's still a good question i would guess that probably the only americans who realize that just because somebody just got out of the military is
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a veteran now officially they don't have access automatically to the v.a. i would guess the only people who realize that are veterans and since we've done away with the draft the percentage of americans who are veterans has been you know shrinking steadily and consistently and the number of families who have veterans in them have been decreasing as well you know more well off families of not be had veterans and their families and what's happening you know we're kind of back to the world of jefferson warned us about where people where you've got enough poverty that people are willing to be shot at for a sixpence so most people don't know and i think your suggestion that everybody who gets discharged in the military should immediately qualify for medicare is brilliant we should also bring back the the other part of the g.i. bill or another we should bring back a part of the g.i. bill after world war two which said that once you get out of the military you can also go to college for free or go to trade school for free i think we should do
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both. here's robert in new britain connecticut who skype does this question and our skype address and talk to tom. my name is robert cain i've been watching your show for a few months now have great respect for you but the clyde and bun the incident out in nevada i was a little disappointed in your coverage of it and your opinion of the situation there as your opinion changed it or are you still on that clive and buggy as a racist millionaire freeloader kind of thing because you know they ran out fifty two out of the fifty three ranchers there in the bottom because they wanted it grabbed that land for rod development so let me know if you change your mind on that yet but i do enjoy your show and i will continue watching regardless of your opinion on clive and. robert thanks for the call i would strongly suggest that you check your facts you're right fifty two out of the fifty three
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ranchers in that area who were grazing their cattle on those public lands were asked to stop raising cattle on those public lands and did so. and. they all of them i believe were offered. compensation for that all of them took it. no i'm not going to stop grazing no i don't want the compensation and for twenty years to pay his fees and basically and he's got is his cattle herd is worth over a million dollars so he is a millionaire and he you know he's probably not a rich guy but you know he's got a lot lot tied up in his cattle and he is a free loader. and he is a law breaker so i'll continue to say that but the point is that it wasn't that the government wants that land for development i know that the right was trying to promote this idea that harry reid's son was a lobbyist for
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a chinese solar company that wanted to build a solar plant there well yeah harry reid's son was a lobbyist for a solar company for five years ago and they did want to build a solar plant in arizona but it was fifty miles more clive bundy was the reason that they were asking these ranchers to move their cattle off this public land was because we've been in a drought for decades out there the climate is changing the cattle were doing incredible damage to that environment and one of the major. jobs of the bureau of land management is to manage the land and the land was being destroyed by the cattle and so they and in fact there were a couple of species that were a risk there there was a tortoise and something else but it wasn't about the tortoise it was about the entire ecosystem these cattle were just ruining and they were ruining it for no good reason other than that fifth. ranchers could make a living could make actually a profit off you and me i mean if they wanted to go to private land no olders and
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and graze their cattle the average cost is around five bucks per hour per month that's going rate in nevada and there's a lot of private land that is ratted out to ranchers to graze their cattle the federal rate was a buck thirty five per col permit so it was incredibly profitable for the ranchers i mean that's this is this goes back decades the ranchers have enough political influence that they've been able to keep that price from going up so it's basically welfare it's been welfare for the ranchers and that and the consequence of that welfare is that the environment was being destroyed and so finally the a b.l.m. said enough you know we're not going to give welfare to these fifty three ranchers anymore and we are going to try to reclaim this land and turn it back into what it should be so and i support that so. robert you know we may respectfully disagree but there's no there's no development going on there's the opposite they want to
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let it go wild. here's another skype question we got this is from larry from fletcher north carolina. the question those what if you don't have the in the different grants. lindsey graham and the other people who are bush you go do you above the twelve years during the bush administration and the surge the people who voted in those attacks on us embassies it's a good question it's a question i wish anybody in the media would ask and i brought it up here several times but these guys here's what's going on hillary clinton was secretary of state . the center and therefore alternately responsible for the embassy now it turns out . as eleanor clift i guess rather in politicly but correctly
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pointed out the other day the ambassador died in a cia safe room of as fixation i would call that murder i would say was killed by the by the guys who set the building on fire but it was a cia safe yes i mean this this was a this was a there was a lot of cia activity there because they were trying to figure out you know we would move in weapons into the into there to support the insurrection against against the government and you know whether it was wise or not and i mean there are some legitimate questions and lessons to learn here but the fact of the matter is that because hillary clinton was secretary of state there are republicans looking at her as a potential presidential nominee think that they can use this to dirtier they did this story husband when he was in the white house they started out going after all a land deal that bill clinton was thirty thousand dollars in back when he was in his twenty's or early thirty's with whitewater and they were unable to find anything on that and so then they went after his wife for being
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a lawyer at the rose law at the rose law firm and when they couldn't find papers from twenty thirty years earlier when she was you know they that was a scandal where then they found the papers and then actually the conspiracy theories around that then she fired actually didn't fire they replace you know a new administration comes in it has new people they replaced people in the travel office people who set up travel for the for the executive staff of the white house and that became a scandal and there was an investigation after finally they discovered something the billet actually done that was illegal which is lying about having sex with somebody having sex wasn't illegal but lying about it was illegal and so they impeached him they're trying to do the same thing to hillary. and you know and they're trying to do the same thing right now to brock obama's well you know not so much of benghazi but with the with the whole i.r.s. scandal which turns out was a scandal but i wish i'm absolutely with you larry i wish that somebody in the
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national media would ask the same question where was all the outrage about the third of the twelve attacks and the sixty people who died during the bush administration in our embassies or for that matter where was the outrage about the failed intelligence around nine eleven let's go to russell in seattle and left us a message on our audio rant on. i heard you mention n.p.r. i thought twelve years ago i had a client in my studio spota graphing a piece of glass and i heard this segment brought to you by walmart building a better community some like that and i about flew a gasket i stopped i called our local affiliate and i said what the hell is going on and i agree the thing i noticed with n.p.r. about oh that's it years ago is still record on issues after it's fait accompli you're no longer cutting i just got tired of listening to them i really appreciate appreciate your show as well as democracy now thank you. thank you very much. it concerns me frankly the n.p.r. of the corporation for public broadcasting c.p.b.
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our i mean n.p.r. is down to seven percent government subsidy and so they've had to make that up by go into corporate sponsors and those corporate sponsors are increasingly apparently having a say in their programming and what they do or they don't cover and so now you're hearing the heritage foundation and no republican talking points all over the place on n.p.r. it used to be it wasn't so much that they excluded the republicans but that n.p.r. had a commitment to the actual truth you know to fact based reporting and now they're doing the same thing that the corporate media does particularly on the sunday shows which is that they let you know the right wingers come on spew their talking points which are often just plain old flat out lies and they don't challenge them. or if they have somebody on who's going to challenge them to try to do it a way that so polite that you don't actually say this guy's mind what's what is this kind of nonsense kind of you know it's just not allowed and i think it's just
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going back to the big picture on monday a bipartisan energy bill that should have easily passed the senate fell victim to more politically motivated washington nonsense the bill which would have tightened energy efficiency guidelines for new federal buildings in and out taxes. said as for making homes and buildings more energy efficient failed to receive the sixty votes it needed to overcome a republican filibuster so why did a bipartisan energy bill with a lot of support suddenly end up a deal way. because republicans refused to vote for the bill because democrats didn't meet their hostage taking demands to include a vote on the keystone x.l. pipeline in the bill instead of giving in to republican demands senate majority leader harry reid used
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a parliamentary move to block senate votes on the pipeline as part of the energy bill and while the keystone x.l. pipeline project remains stalled in washington new information obtained by the republican port suggests that one of the pipeline projects major consulting firms may have violated ethics law so joining me now for more on this new keystone controversy or scandal is lee fog the co-founder of republic reporter and author of the book the machine a field guide to the resurgent right lee it's great to see you again welcome back tom thank you so much for having me nice to see you as well thank you so do what is fever press. peter paris is a consulting firm that does relations another clue work or a sort of clients. public records request to canada i found that this firm beaver cross was one of many firms tapped by the out bird of government to promote the keystone x.l.
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here in the united states so it's it is there's something inherently wrong with that or illegal about that. well know any foreign government can. engage in policy campaigns lobbying campaigns here in the united states however they simply have to register their activities with the department of justice it's a law called the foreign agents registration act it dates back to the one nine hundred thirty eight when the nazi government was found to be spreading pop propaganda here in the united states to kind of keep the united states out of world war two. that law is still on the books and simply requires agents of foreign governments to register and disclose their activities on a regular basis so my story shows that out of all the consultants that were hired by alberta most of those concert consultants registered with the department of
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justice but this one p.r. firm fever press failed to just disclose on failed to register. which suggests a violation of the wall why did they do that. to question i reached out to both the alberta government and this p.r. firm and the alberta government says it's not their fault they were were hoping that their. their consultants here in the united states would have by by any applicable law when i reached out to favor press they said they would get back to me and they still have not what kind of work were they doing. well they're helping book. alberta officials onto media programs on m.s.n. b.c. and c.n.n. and giving them interviews in the d.c. press and trying to gin up. a media strategy for public support for the keystone x.l. and in memos i change through the same records request this p.r.
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firm is hoping to push back against environmentalist who have argued that the keystone x.l. would be bad for the environment and would explode emissions. and so where where do you see this going on is. what what you know come out of it. i think for one thing you know if this is just another data point that proponents of the keystone x.l. are spending millions of dollars most of it undisclosed to promote the pipeline and it's not just trans canada the maker of the pipeline if you will refinery in texas the canadian government is some of these other tar sands companies that would like to gain access. to oil sands in alberta and second i think the story could result in some major find another type of reprimands to this firm for failing to comply or potentially failing to comply with the law yeah i've seen reports that the koch brothers are companies associated with them are significant owners of some of that
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canadian land where the tar sands are going to come from and significant owners are refineries where it's going to end up down the gulf coast is that true. well the koch brothers through their very own coke industry is one of the largest american lease holders of tar sands up in alberta they're not the largest. suncor in some of these other canadian firms are the biggest they do hold an incredible share of land that could be developed as tar sands and as many of argue the keystone x.l. will. rapidly accelerating the development of this land and make their investments . more worthwhile that being said they also benefit from. the cheap kind of clogged oil in the midwest because they own one of the largest refineries in minnesota. many have pointed out that the keystones have been. the
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koch brothers have been pushing the keystone x.l. through their various advocacy groups like the american. i do love to hear your freezing up so many will get where we're flat out of time but thank you so much for the great investigative reporting your doing. thank you so much. here's the good the bad of the very very add bartley the good chinese army this month the world's largest army made a truly revolutionary decision and ordered all of its supply stations to stop purchasing g.m.o. foods in oils the reason health and safety concerns imagine that all countries all over the world have decided to strongly regulate g.m.o. isn't just saying no to them all together we here in the united states have become
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guinea pigs in monsanto's giant multi-generational experiment it's time for our government to follow china's lead into cracking down on. the bad rafael cruz in a recent interview with the conservative watchdog group media research center the father of ted cruz praised that organization for sticking up to the liberal media and compared the work care to compare its work to the work of you know jesus check it out. i am so so happy to see what you guys are doing you are doing something that it's absolutely necessary in this country when we have so much of the liberal media that they have ceased to be broadcasters a hep c. to b. to be really journalists and they have become mouthpieces for the administration they have apparently no concern for the truth all they want to do is promote promote the talking points of the administration soul you are standing in the gap
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you know that's right folks rafael cruz thinks that jesus wants us all to fight the liberal media can you imagine what this guy would be like as first father. and a very very ugly bill reilly during yesterday's episode a fact of the fox news so set down for. reverend jock. to debate the concept of white privilege segment when how you'd expected to go with bill totally rejected the idea that white people have any sort of advantage because the race you always want to is more ridiculous. you believe then why you believe it is in play you believe that there is a white privilege component to america. as well with yes ok let me stop you let me stop you ok now a really white guy when i was in hawaii last week i couldn't go in the sun i thought i was in the sun for three minutes my ears would fall off all right now bill o'reilly actually made the argument there because he gets sunburned white privilege can't exist he really doesn't get it does he and that's
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a very. nice time to let him go over the past few years it's become increasingly clear that as long as far right crazies and ultra conservatives in washington around the country are preaching policies that eat away at the very ideals that our nation was built on the american dream is going to remain out of the reach of millions of americans so if we want to have any chance of taking back the american dream we should just let those far right crazies and ultra conservatives run around washington in the red states have their dream of their own country let them secede start their own far right and i and rand inspired paradise piven bundy louie gohmert ted cruz ted nugent sean hannity let the rest of america is right wingers they can all move to west texas create
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a country of their own free from the tyrannical influences of the us they can even call this new i n. rand inspired country galt's gulch they get around firing off their guns not paying taxes and define authority all they want meanwhile the rest of us back here in america will get back to rebuilding the american. that reaganomics is largely torn apart as nicholas kristoff points out over the new york times we may have to rename that dream part because the american dream isn't really the dream the american dream anymore instead we better off living in the european dream or the canadian dream here's why just last month economists announced that for the first time in the history of the american middle class is no longer the richest middle class in the world canada does is part of that has to do with health care costs all americans have to pay thought to pay for health care costs with after tax dollars under obamacare canadians are basically getting free untaxed health care thanks to a single payer system and because canadians have access to lifesaving affordable
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health care they're living longer lives similarly children in canada are less likely to die than children in america and american women are twice as likely to die as a result of pregnancy or childbirth than canadian women canadians also work less than americans the average american worker puts works four point six percent more hours than the average canadian worker even though they have a better quality of life and a stronger and richer middle class and according to a recent report by the o.e.c.d. canadians are smarter and more literate than us to thanks to a vibrant well funded public school and university system that same o.e.c.d. report found that for people aged sixteen to twenty four america ranks dead last among wealthy and developed nations in math and technological proficiency the american dream has always been about everyone having an equal shot at living a comfortable middle class life from a decent job to a decent retirement whether you're born in an inner city neighborhood in detroit or
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up on the upper west side in new york the american dream is not supposed to discriminate but like canadian geese in the summer it looks like the american dream has migrated to the great north so after we have let all the far right crazies move to the west texas and establish the world's newest country galt's gulch maybe the. should join up with their neighbors to the north create a new canadian american dream that might be the only way to guarantee the equal shots at success and opportunity that the american dream once promised and that's the way it is tonight thursday may fifteenth two thousand and fourteen a quick programming note assured to its moderators will be airing my recent ted talk lincoln didn't quite the civil war to free the corporations and don't forget democracy begins when you get out there get active tag your.
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old. technology innovation all the developments from around russia. that's huge you're covered. this was in the washington well it's a missile that is being suggested in the latest numbers of the. candidates for the prophecy of covering issues actually back to a new doesn't do too much for ad revenue my own tech agriculture giant teeth on a seventy six year old american farmer based in india fallout do you think this is going to create for the cia do you think this is what's triggering a race america's the largest economy in the world it's also the largest debtor nation in the history of the world breaking the set is mostly about alternatives to
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the status quo but one might give real alternatives points to looking for the american dream the next they were just trying to survive stime for americans and lawmakers are forced to wake up and start talking about the real causes of problem .
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he's ten united outspoken and ready to take a stand on the day's red hot issues he's my good friend bill maher get ready there's he's joining me for this edition of politicking. in the politicking on larry king joining me one of my favorite people who's never afraid to say what he wants the host of real time with bill maher on h.b.o. the one and only maher himself and by the way in addition to real time bill will be at the murad theater in indianapolis on may thirty first and on june seventh at the car not a theater in rockford illinois west of chicago work the country larry you know i do i let's get right into.


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