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thursday israeli security minister. said two important things arguably one that assad of syria is part of an axis of evil and two israel is being dragged into a campaign against hamas what happened to the un brokered cease fire. ok i think israel is getting crazy they're trying to resolve all its of problems either in ten or experience through the military operation and aggression against the palestinians against the syrians again is there anything is there think that they are both they are low so they think that they are strong country they can target the country they can strike everywhere but i don't know about because i think that is why they try many times to target gaza try to impose to to kill more people more victims but they did not succeed to achieve their goals to break a mass down all to break the policy not people in gaza or to push him to. realize the way to fly i think we are struggling for our freedom to put into for
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the q patient to put in for the blockade and out to get already unity we will not settle and i do not equate and we will continue to fight against occupation no we want to defend ourselves because every every two days three days israel tried to strike in different places now we kill four people in the last we can to kill more than five people since the beginning of the march to kill more modern hundred fifty people and and injured more than fifteen thousand people so we as palestinians with all the racin of actually trying to defend ourselves in order to make kind of difference now to start taking action first right this is this is that the message of a massive brigades or the other policy infraction military wings we want to stop the israeli aggression against our people nikki haley trumps ambassador like the nation says that this is a freedom watch where all these casualties were undertaken by the palestinian people it was all
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a hamas operation today israel are complaining about something called balloons against their. warplanes and chris missiles i think and again is a learn is to be doing just one step just to to share. israel departed losses of his own there is they don't take in about the palestinian about the direction of the policy in all the american administration i think they are very strong with people who think they can they can impose their political team on the policy nancy companies from a space policy and people even they can accuse the brits drive a bus and here's the. operative i think they are going in the wrong way they will achieve nothing they will get big zero because i think as a policy unions we are united in order to refuse the deal of the century we are united to it to end the occupation we are united to stop the military aggression against our people sorry what they what scenario for will not help israel to
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achieve its goals what's the deal of the century i think sometimes they're talking about. a new political plan they want to pull a scene and just to forget. their identity they want to cancel what's called the right of return to cancer jews amazing cavite of palestine and they want to cancel the borders of palestine then they want a policy not just to live as a slaves under this week a patient and they want two months to make kind of. humility not development's no again will not accept as we are struggling since seventy years in order to indicate patient and to establish our state and to achieve our dignity the american that tested this to do that many times in the time of it land john and bush and obama but they never succeeded to do to impose anything on the palestinians by using force the british government abstained on a motion of the united nations on wednesday night telling us to release israeli
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prisoners and dead bodies but israel is being supplied weapons by britain what would you say to prime minister tourism may lie about always ways that it does not release more than seven thousand palestinians who are in jail and they spent more. some many of them stood more than twenty years ten years fifteen years and they are suffering and now all the world just thinking about their four who just came for five three years they don't think about their policy and tragedy the palestinian suffering why ok we want to we are ready to have a negotiation and to have a deal but we need also israel to release our prisoners we need them to do that we don't want our people not the southern florida and for a long time and you know that when you have a challis did in two thousand and eleven now is a real reality is that all the action prisoners and they kept him in the prison since. two thousand and fourteen ok but you know when you say what would you say to
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resume britain is israel with weapons at the moment look i think over time they pretty put the government making the wrong decision when they support israel and its policy this is a i don't hear that mr there is a it's a talking about the settlements are against international law or against the building this the discovery the war or against stealing our lands or against a blockade on gaza i think the war is is full with the political hypocrisy they don't take care about as i said the thrust of the policy you know they try to deal with israel a spoiled boy they want to build more settlements to to coalesce and to take jerusalem at their capital and they want to proceed to keep silent so i say the british government does deny that and the european union as well because they both the bridge covered in the european union see the settlements as being illegal but this is good i mean two weeks you know k. they have some statements but they did nothing this one way for example that
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wouldn't still i should have asked on the. terrorist organization but did not get the call as israel when they built settlements kill people still lands and they were not international law no one is right in the blacklist why well i'll tell you . why one reason is two palestinian children say a miracle never a name or a and. they were killed in an air strike israeli air strike british back in gaza. district two weeks ago. presumably and the way it's reported here with a hamas operatives where they have a human shields look i think we're human beings we never we never use people as human shields we never do that now people now they go to them up to the bar of the burdens which often is infections ordinary people represented of the association and syndicates in gaza no one to get them to go there no one and we have many many journalists many press media and the borders and they took control at taking photos
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and no one see how much they keep putting people as shields i think israel try to fabricate and try to lie and try to deceive the ward in order to to blame hamas to blame the police you know faction does there have a violent must know we're doing in order to keep this much as peaceful march but look at the reaction of israel now tell of the come over one hundred sixty people there were documents and one hundred and sixty people were killed ninety nine percent of them civilians the attack ambulances they attack a journalist they attack every thinking of everything under the striking gas and every day they strike sometimes these strikes the farms the. ambulances and i think it's open for them you want two thousand and fourteen they destroyed more than twenty thousand homes in gaza they destroyed hospital did a story schools they killed people inside the schools they destroyed some summer
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clinics in your real israel and have nothing and have no limitation for it's a crimes for it's a brutal. action against the palestinian people no one is there to stop them it's really an international community. the fourteen they killed more than two thousand two hundred people know any plans of looking we have about four hundred children and two hundred seventy five women will kill no one to care about this this is a kind of genocide again a simple as you know what you expect from people to do what but expect to ruin them people are boiling people are upset people are frustrated and you are just watching watching and doing nothing so people will do something in order to get the attention of the world to tell them that you have to do something in order to stop the crimes of the israeli completion against the policy in a civil citizens in gaza that we have invited the israeli ambassador to london and yet again he doesn't seem available to come on this program thank you. thank you
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after the break from smoke bombs to a legit smokescreens we'll ask jewish voice for labor of its anti-semitic to criticize the israeli bombing of gaza and offer a triumphant brick summit in south africa we offer the original economic hitman john perkins what nato nation sabotage may lie in school nola civil coming up about to a going underground. financial . locust is it is. must just. find nothing. you could. do it
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a little too warm. doesn't go to the religiously naive very. well it's only about the looking on the other end of the globe full to one of them i mean well collins i'm all. for. cut. you'll be up. for men are sitting in a car when the phipps gets shot in the head. all four different versions of what happened one of them is on the death row.
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there's no way he could have done it there's no possible way because the list did not shoot around a corner. this is harlan kentucky. no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the. people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking
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when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's how it's happened. welcome back in the past few days the u.k.'s three main jewish newspapers have united to brand they believe the jeremy corbyn an existential threat to jewish life they accuse him of dieting the international holocaust remembrance alliance's definition about the semitism but an international coalition of over forty jewish groups from fifteen different countries have backs the leader of western europe's largest socialist movement they reject the idea that it's anti-semitic to go israel racist one of those groups is jewish voice for labor and joining me now is one of its founders richard cooper richard thanks for coming on the show so i have to ask this question how can you support a labor leader who is a might and a racist according to a senior former labor cabinet minister margaret hodge has apparently now they deny
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that she swore. jeremy is not and has never been mocked or a racist. for margaret hodge to make the second station and to make an accusation in that form whether or not with the expletive deleted it should be unacceptable behavior and she should apologize that is not the way in which we come back to the labor party but she seems to have a lot of support from the blairite factions in. in the labor party you may have support from blairite factions in the labor party it has nothing to do with the labor party to the day with its absolute commitment to fight anti semitism in all its forms the argument is to water is anti semitic come to what extent criticism of israel may or may not be anti-semitic and it's important we make these distinctions anti-semitism in our view is hostility to jews as jews and it needs to be opposed believe the interest of israel is criticism of israel and unless it shows
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hostility to jews as jews it is political criticism and argument and has to be fought on that basis well it's being reported and supported it has to be said by journalists who are supposed to be impartial in the press regulation in this country that they broadcast regulation that the international. has a working definition they were announced it. is not or they have a definition and it's actually not a particularly useful definition in my view it's a definition which has been around since two thousand and five when a european body ear and see originally put it forward as a working definition to collect comparative statistics about anti-semitism and it was abandoned five years later as not fit for purpose they were issued a press release it has been reset wrecked it is now become holy writ it was never about it was a draft to be discussed and worked out and that's indeed what the labor party has done with its code of conduct it's accepted the definition it's accepted many of
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the notes of guidance but it is argued that other notes of guidance are not useful in the form in which they're incorporated in that definition and if it's offered reformulations of that it is taking out of so much as a more seriously than the i.h.r. a and trying to provide a working document so it can be dealt with in practice and in order to do that one has to be able to distinguish between what is semitic and what is. criticism of israel the i h r a definition makes it appear that criticism of israel is likely to be anti semitic and puts the onus on people who do not like what israel is doing is really government policy the racist foundations of its current nation state will use its anti semitic to do so roughly. forty five percent of the israeli m.p.'s alone would be anti-semitic and the mass movement of people in israel seen on the streets protesting about this though they would all have to be deemed as anti semitic why is it possible for us to have criticism of israel within israel
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regarded as legitimate debate and such criticism when voiced by jews like myself in britain as anti semitic or potentially anti semitic why should i have to prove that my criticisms of israel is manifestly discriminate three laws are not a matter of are not motivated by anti semitic belief they are motivated by a deep commitment to universal values to a gala terrorism to treating all people equally and within societies all citizens to be treated equally because discriminating against citizens and making some of them the enemy within that is a dangerous path and we know from the nine hundred thirty s. where that path can lead one to their cause here. why do you the prime minister supports this definition you have a problem with because britain selling arms to israel i don't think it's as simple as that but my feeling is they wanted a definition and this one was being touted it is not
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a good definition as i said before it was actually abandoned by the fundamental rights agency in the u. s. not suitable for the purpose of been drawn up for suddenly today it is now holy writ in the jewish tradition there is one book that is holy writ and it is not the i h r a definition which has to be subject to critical purview the told mood is a criticism of the bible. aligned paragraph by paragraph and the choose tradition is proud of its ability to take a sacred text and view it critically and suddenly we're faced with a text the i h r a definition which has got to be regarded to separate and they one can voice a word of criticism of it some of its causes are good some are very poor and contribute towards the restriction of our right to freedom of expression under article ten of the european convention on human rights why do you think your organisation i'm old school was of others into the support gerry corwin's line on
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this and yet what we're being told on stage when they did media here and certainly all the press here little on the board of deputies everything all these groups are saying we represent the jewish community and your group seem to be much more silent in the political narrative about the subject our groups are part of the jewish community the jewish community does not speak with one voice the jewish community has never done so and it's important that diversity and plurality within the jewish community are recognised and encouraged and we would argue that we speak firmly within the jewish humanitarian internationalist tradition and that we are basing ourselves on jewish values of respect for the other respect for all religions agalloch tarion ism and not making the kinds of legal distinctions between citizens which is now occurring in israel this is not acceptable democratic practice in jericho israel wishes to be called a liberal democracy it has to abide by liberal democratic values during a journey called
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a national autocracy it can continue along the line it is going on doing germany when israelis will be cowed by all this red criticism would be less critical of those policies you dislike of the israeli government i hope that jeremy will continue to be jeremy can stand up for what he believes in and speak openly and honestly and pursue the values he has always stood up for internationalise values gala tarion values to most of all anti racist values and standing up to all forms. and rice and including county summit which you could thank you thank you very much . well while the u.k. arguably debated food shortages after a brics it brics nations wrapped up a groundbreaking summit in south africa last week what dangers lie ahead for brazil russia india china and south africa trying to forge a post imperial world free of u.s. federal reserve neoliberalism joining me from new hampshire in the u.s. is who else the former consultant link to the u.n. the i.m.f. and the u.s. treasury john pracon is author of confessions of an economic hitman the shocking
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story of how america took over the world john thanks so much for coming back on the show so back in your day when you were an economic hit man how would you have responded to this new kid on the block seeming to undermine or these threatening to undermine the i.m.f. and the world bank's supremacy you know i mean we had a similar situation through the soviet union it was on the same by anybody but there was and there was a balance so if we were to strop just push too hard and strong i mean it on trade like let's say there were two or colombia or indonesia. there are governments i turned to the soviet union. and force us to try to soften our approach and then after the soviet union collapsed in the early ninety's world bank the i.m.f. and their sister organizations had a monopoly and they really abused it and i think that's a shame and they used it to we were exploiting the country even more now we've got
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to rex and we've got the. infrastructure investment banks and these banks have as more financial power in fact in the world bank and it's just us and so in a way we're reaching a balance right think probably if i were if it were america and i think robert people who are at the world bank today are really having to look at how they need to soften their deals what they need to do to be more competitive. you know it's the deuce basically chinese directed banks looking at it in ugly more a shadowy way though the be in breaks brazil is that is already now run by a former cia asset its most popular leader of course is in jail news every day against jacob zuma flooding mainstream media are there other ways to attack this brics new. new future yet it's difficult to stay exactly what the future will bring in this regard because it same time of course
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the us government is having this competitive it's almost like it as a tennis game are very very suspicious to me with china which we are with north korea with russia over trade wars in trade deals and i'm sure that's and people at the world bank and the other side to sions are being very much plato's cons in that game. i guess you have problems in tennis man talking about assessment yeah but then some a saying that as the the old policies a divide and rule fail to actually start to unite the perceived enemies of that. that paradigm is it was russia and china are arguably getting closer together in their relationship president putin and i was with him in st petersburg on a year ago at a conference there we were both speaking at night and a lot of time with his top economic adviser their very very sharp very kind in
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a very clever and you know there's no world leader going to much experience as president putin at least on a world leader of a major country with nuclear arms and i think it was very obvious that in the meeting between putin and trump putin want you know putin just made trump look like an idiot so i'm sure that putin and china are really looking at how they come together and how they can face off the no question that there's a huge broader g well a caused a sense in within the european union what supposed directed britain going to have to do to get closer ties with brics because apparently the nd in moscow relations have never been lower and you think london can make these post break to deals maybe with the shanghai cooperation council but the whole brush that issue is iraq in question right now. i think a country like england however really needs to look at how its kin does
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strike deals not only with the u.s. and other u.s. and european based but also with russia and china you know we're going to this period where we get something that's called the silk road that's connecting china through cazenove sound and many other countries with russia as i was in st petersburg i was also in conference on and president putin was there also as well as his chief economic advisor and this whole silk road idea of uniting that whole area is certainly got to be something your great interest to europe and to your peace and to the youth and just looking back on that seminal work of yours confessions of a hit on the hitman i mean is it does it sound like something of a hero i mean britain has failed to destroy say the assad government nato nations of the failed to destroy him a duro in venezuela. england trying to destroy putin that doesn't seem to be working and the days when they do nations could destabilize countries. over now
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because of the differences in this century i don't think it's over all i think you still have on a big scale the difference is. that there's been another factor that's coming in and that's a very strong militarism so about the time i was an economic hit man we were understanding that the war in vietnam was a failure on the other hand the overthrow of most adak in iraq by an economic man was very successful so for many years economic it francis and morris set into place as a way to respect and the global empire was really a corporate empire i think a big mistake was made in the round the year two thousand and later the bush administration the clinton administrations in the united states where in the military industrial complex basically said hey you know. the world has been kind of
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taken over by corporations but we're not part of that we're going to get back into militarization and nine eleven provided a fantastic excuse for the bush administration to get back into the military process we're in that yeah it's lose and it's our working on the other hand the russians and the chinese are playing the game that we used to play which is really our economic hit man. and that seems to be doing quite well that's going to be sixty to jump again thank you and that's it for the show will be back on wednesday when we speak to one of the world's greatest social geographers professor danny dorling about his new book the inequality britain's ticking time bomb and nearly one hundred thirty thousand children to be homeless in britain christmas still than he would have tried social media he was here on monday forty eight years to the day of the death of suspected communist hollywood actor francis foma played by jessica lange in the oscar nominated front.
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palestinian teenager and seeing many killed by israeli soldiers at the gaza border with the protesters journalists working with our state was caught up in the violence. we just woke up from inhaling it suffocating. going to want. also to come the recalls in the u.s. stop authorities using facial recognition software wrongly match photos of members of congress with criminal. tech giants like tesla and still not made a single cent in profits look at how that puts their work. at risk.


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