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as wrong or right or why he should be supporting to raise amaze position on media multiplicity via social media that strays i'm a who like corbin's political enemies supported the war on syria it's only a few months since the prime minister herself visited our a.f. akrotiri in cyprus from where tornado jets flew their sorties one thing is for sure media has been largely monolithic arguably in britain about to raise a maze a port for rebels trying to overthrow the government of syria and social media is certainly having little of what president putin and prime minister netanyahu had to say about last week's killing of fifteen russian servicemen after an israeli warplane attack on syria so let's go to what used to be syria's largest city aleppo joining me via skype for his perspective is aleppo's independent member of the syrian parliament be fires thanks for coming back on before we get to monday's deal what did you think of president putin's diplomatic response to the israeli bombardment of your country i think it sounded good enough and i think behind it there is a clear clear it's all it's all by russia really for that disguise of syria to make
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it off limits to all of these you know nato aggressors and to the special people these really really jets that keep. their national you know recognized rights you think it's good enough because putin appeared to say it's just a tragic series of events we didn't say didn't seem to tell israel to stop bombing and because israel for its sake says it was bombing to stop hezbollah or iran in your country you think putin's response is fine yes i mean he doesn't need to say it really are you not that that says that that will dismantle them and take them from our country peacefully we welcome it. if these agreements fear for whatever reason then we have no other option but the use of force to liberate our country to save between million civilians obviously is the being there and to make millions more return you mention the two kilometers away from you but i
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know you've warned us in an interview with the statement a b.b.c. here that there's a chance of them coming to their this studio what do you think the state of syrian intelligence is about the returning foreign jihadists as you call them to london and to britain look we don't lie and for indy hardy's to go anywhere because they are dangerous do they deal societies in danger what why do the why do normal british citizen citizens have to stop or from the stupid actions of their government this is no one like this we stop it from them and because from our somebody i'm telling you we don't want the suffering to be imposed on any nation in the world ok but what danger they pose what danger they pose britain these people that after a working order by britain arguably great danger great that you are actually you have base that some of their daughter is already dead but this government needs to change course immediately they need to establish beyond that they need to reopen
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their embassy they need to recognize the legitimate rights of the syrian people and the syrian state and they need to cooperate in the fight against international terrorism otherwise there will be the blame if any harm is to dog or on any british citizen but you support to resume suspending money for security forces that worked in areas controlled by terror i think you know i think the reason he is doing or not of policies and actions are to promote and to some boat that isn't syria there is so many clinched money in the white helmets the white helmets are known to be outside the us. army in it. you know are not the most mysterious only that it only in muslim thought only in the places where you have a guy got to lose their infant is a nato member like holland has refused has now stopped all aid to the white helmets
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will obviously have to get reaction well it's their legs it's still a big hole and there's been supporting beastie are these four now six or seven yes i mean no i mean they and this should be accountable because the officials in holland that support that did the ok i think all products that are that are it's organization even dutch law not only in british law when i married the law you m.r. so basically it's not enough for us to say well i still i don't i will end the of my financial support to these jihadi groups really what about your support really is that there what about the cost that the harm that you cost to us by the syrian people by supporting the jihadi groups are going to not you're not going to be held accountable to that let's just get on to this so-called false flag attack that moscow is warning the world about it's quite quiet here about syria in the mainstream media what do you make of this the olive group this british company denying it has any involvement in the at most because that they were involved in
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the training of people for a false flag chemical attack that we should expect what do you think on the ground there in the lead or does it sound believable. look exactly yes i mean this happened before and not you know if you remember when i was just sixteen and the place when they would be when they shot the movie the infamous movie the last man of aleppo in a limbo it was it was a real kind of this at the time and we have been when they weren't filming this so this will be the kind of course with the black flag we're protecting this site so same thing happened already in just a short in it some people also told us that there be they also feel a little be fabricated the movie and the city off and back to be aired later their movies are already recorded. just meet the bush start to start but them to air and those movies they are not the only thing there was more what is aleppo trade fair all we hear about is war there in britain of course supporting groups in
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your country there's a trade fair aleppo's slowly starting to get back to normal what it was before this war yes actually it was the only book fair and then after that there was just the recent one was the masters and that national affair was a lot more participated in the big number of companies. the economic life. was already starting to come back rapidly. specially the eastern parts of aleppo ma about eight hundred thousand people returned to eastern parts of malibu grooves that all these propaganda that he had on other media is really nonsense because the country is secure the country secular you are free to dress like you want you to do whatever you want not unlike jihadi land would you how the land women are the center second or third class citizens. they have to go they have to convert their faces they have to cover their bodies they can not go out. you know religious
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clergyman running the show you know it's totally different i mean we are we live a normal life that you see in the west. and we want this also this our lifestyle our freedom to reach also it lives so that the people of that live will be liberated and feel like they are real syrian citizens free of any jihadi mercenaries ruling by a travel thank you. you're welcome you well after the break. the burning towers but there's a climate of fear continuing in london's kensington and chelsea with or without megan local school will hold the civil coming of a bot to have going underground. it's
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become an international norm to say women's rights are human rights but in a world where women make up the majority of university graduates this may not be true how much more women's empowerment needs to happen in the fortune to face policies become redundant. ministries police forces and city administrations of many countries depend on one corporation that does what mike was hoping the board doesn't want the presence of god to just dominate the guns. into the sea it's like proprietary software you don't know. isn't that such a security risk when you have a black box operating in the public eye to microsoft dependency puts governments under a cyber threat not only that. mole. is
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selling. things this is. done with the old vision stopping them also sitting on holes in front is up and his cards on the sly. welcome back i'm at the council house community room just minutes away from the grand felt hour in the past seventy two hours former residents of the poorest area in one of the richest on earth around the grandchildren are in london have been given an ultimatum move back or lose access to their community with me now is helena thompson the artistic director of the social political independent direct theatre company and the writer of the burning tower about the granville disaster
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thanks elder for him to speed tell me about what the burning towers over the bank has about two girls who are sharing the history of social housing when you come to the play they fill you in on everything they can. and as the play goes on that one of them is occurring for survivor and she finds it difficult to talk about how experience it's you as an audience are asked to get involved and support her in sharing what she's been through before it's even revealed that one of them is a growing force of over the history they're telling very entertaining leigh with the audio and all sorts of other effects in the drama very different to the history on your documentaries about bridges tree there's something we yell about the history that we share i think and that with mt steve comes. we do have
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a living history program where kids go and talk to local residents about their member that social housing and that's what informed that's what forms the soundscapes that the trauma that's what informs the characters and that's what keeps their back authentic edge because the jupiter goodness are in their history that they're telling before this revelation they seem to suggest that it's really is a break in the whole idea and concept of social housing with vinegar in the first few years. that's right there is a line in the past i think what sarah said we'll welfare is gone and you think it's a wound you think it surrounds us all and the history matter is and can be protected but the actual safety net doesn't really exist and it's just that the whole grenfell disaster is not about clouding or firefighters not doing what they should be it's about something else about people being ignored correct and i think
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that that is the issue i think residents in social housing and not least into the housing is not valued as it should be and i think if we don't listen to each other that we sell ourselves short collectively as a society so the play is about the importance at least i'm sure the government would say see they are listening and that's where this is begin corey so. in a sense the government has responded to the critique in the book it's good that we have an inquiry i mean it would be a terrible mistrust if there were no inquiry bet there are a number of other things that the government needs to recognize as we failings there's a lot of social hasn't been torn down there's no investment in social housing social housing is often run down and housing is a basic human right we need to provide social housing and the sense of community that's built into the d.n.a.
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of these buildings is irreplaceable yeah due to dramatically the the communicate that without it being boring a door because it is clearly explained the tearing down. our approach was to bring people into social housing itself so it's really important that the play happens in a council estate community space and it's really important that that space actually comes to life that the history of that space that the sense that that space could be a place where a fire happens where. blackouts happen where the place is not maintained all of that actually happens and you experience it from we'll i think that's what gives the play its urgency and really makes you feel wow this place matt is it's bringing people together and it has a life of its own but ironic that it is in a community of the city which is being gentrified which is losing social housing
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and over the government's as it's now brings as well as in affordable homes the play also addresses that in fact yes the place where they play takes place is contested in a sense though this particular pace is council house community now that's a place that spirit score to score today in two thousand and five it was fantastically one down we had no security no leads since grenfell as part of our current formatters campaign and because of our own lives we were able to wear a one point nine million in we still need another half a million for two point four million we for up and that's us showing look we can invest in social housing we're going to make this place beautiful this place is loved it's historic it matter is so that's i think that's the hope that we're trying to express we're trying to say they would good can come from grenfell but you need to be proactive about it you need to fight it and just finally also when
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the play is rapidly and not only a century of social housing or more the windrush hostile environment is even injected is that the point is a rated making or systemic yes it seemed to me that wind wash was part of this problem of disempowerment where again people who've bought so much to our society and not been given a voice at the apologies are not felt to be sincere and the way they've been treated is insulting and the play gives them a voice and says these people really matter and if we're not careful we're going to lose them jobs and thank you frank. well i'm now joined by naomi israeli youth embassador for the smith company she lost friends on the night of the granville and we thanks for being going underground so how can fears help us understand grief and
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how did it help you understand your grief. me examine my grief because i thought i had dealt with. one of the people. she wrote on her facebook because she was able to get through. it made me realize. i actually feel and i know this many people in the area because you have to have to get up and move on. about your business because. you have to. because in the immediate aftermath the prime minister was great is. going there she eventually did visit the area yes she did. but yes she did. she said help. the first responders. but.
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you can't pick and choose who you're supporting. the choir it is ongoing but then this week we heard about these letters about the fact that people have to return to the ground. just tell me about the less isn't what you think of what they mean as regards the authorities response to the disaster. i think. i think. that just goes to show what happens when you hold people to account because i think people people. and rightly so for years they've been telling. anyone that would listen. isn't safe the clothing that is on it isn't safe. and then took in the same people telling you oh it's safe for the very same people. to people are dead and now they're telling them
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always safe to go back. and then also. you have you have people. telling them. this is what needs to happen it doesn't need to happen to have a heart compassion and understand that these people not only grief they're suffering from p.t.s.d. because they were told that they had to evacuate their homes but you're sleeping soundly to go in business and that's you know your neighbors a. house is probably in jeopardy because they did evacuate them for nothing i meant to tell them on the seo way is fine go on go no i would be i would be just as has since moved back. and remind us how rich the royal birth. is up the road. would you. have. looking up for. three cause of
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a million. because another be able to talk about the emergency response in the immediate aftermath of. just one percent of the value of a big house down the road by the paid for professional mental health services and emergency provisions right there in the state of the community coming together it just makes me think what is the point of having the council. to provide. safety and just help the general running of this community. the community stepped up we've provided. they should have been doing affectively they should. they should be in that position. because. now i know you've said before that despite the so-called social cleansing that's happened right across the country since the twenty eight crash you said actually community still does survive an up to the greenville business no matter what community so
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much. is vital we have to it's not so much of a question. maybe. because we can't leave it up to them because look what happened when we did we lost seventy two feet. and although many people in the area think. to agree with them. we just saw how we had to come together it was even that what would happen if we had waited to get this do. you see when you make an allegation like that i mean this program going into trouble from them i don't think it was promoting plus war when you say i think being protected adequately by the authorities. i mean do you think people should go to jail i'll go look if you killed seventy two people you would be in jail like i'm not talking like
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a little bit of. the. pay for all i know i mean like hard time because like lessons must be learned and actions have consequences and if you tell people did it have consequences. of people's lives of course maybe remarking on the fact that the royal palace is not too far from here being refurbished with taxpayers' money as is redevelopment of public resources here in this area well i have nothing against the world. i just feel like their involvement of grenfell it comes of may just comes across as is that like damage control. or are you just trying to like hide the fact that you've got all this money. paying for your house whereas you couldn't full cup an extra grad to make sure that my friends' homes were safe and as the media coverage of this movie you covered. for the community.
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but i'm glad. to help but i'd rather they use their influence for what we really want which is justice but you influence use it can also be just as they killed my friend like they killed my friends but like the whole family just like just now on i'm sorry it's like there's no no no i'm just what i need you have that in the inquiry. i'm going to mines about it. people are able to put that point but then i'm not so i'm not so hopeful of it because the fact that the had to campaign. unlike the rest of how it's been it's a fight to be a part of it. didn't sit well with me it kind of made me confidence and you know israel thing you think that's it for the show we'll be back next week hearing from
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the council up with kensington and chelsea council mason and we're back on monday to investigate u.k. arms to nigeria from the man who could soon be the country's next president till then social media will see on monday the birthday of the corner of the death of the american dream f. scott fitzgerald. might just as it should be. so they're going to build it up. into him on the question of how they. look. for the little guy we. don't want the money i don't know i don't want to
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know about. is it really. a mystery just. thrown on the downswing. out of a show host i mean we have been. calling the world. you'll get a little warmth and you know what. i'm going to. show what i do you saw. this i will do. it's hard to imagine decades after the war a nazi doctor was still active rich in the nineteen seventies crittle had as the
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chair of its board a man convicted of mass murder and slavery at auschwitz a german company develops a new denied a drug that was promoted as completely safe even during pregnancy. it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby anything. she said is just cut short arms minix a little mind victims have to this day received no compensation they never apologized for the suffering that. not only want the money i want the revenge. because there's no power in libya that is powerful enough to take over the country all of them. they can fight for ever and they do it with really over the last forty five years that's what they did they just kept fighting and fighting and fighting and nobody was able to win anything. from all of this is destruction of the country
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is the killing of the young people and the innocent and the life became so miserable in the country because of the.
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at least twenty four. state department accuses the syrian government. terrorists in the country examine whether or not the. reality on the ground.


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