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terrorists opened fire on a military parade in southwest iran killing at least twenty eight people as the country marks of the anniversary of its war with iraq. u.s. state department accuses the syrian government and its allies of helping extremists in the country. and the mixed martial arts champions of russia and ireland prepare
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to face off in one of the biggest in the sports. latest on the stories you can head over to dot com coming up though going underground looks into the israeli role in the conflict and if you're watching in the u.k. leading british astronomer is the text of the. times you know what you're going on the ground of the day jeremy corbyn tells you why he'll be britain's next prime minister coming up in the show is israel trying to derail a russia peace deal in syria we go to aleppo to investigate. a destruction from this week's ultimatum to residents affected by britain's worst. since world war two. but first jeremy corbyn may be rallying his socialist troops in liverpool
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but what about monday's speech by shadow chancellor john mcdonnell the british labor party conference this is what he told us about first being appointed by corbin when i asked him about britain's media landscape well we were the first people before anybody else to raise the issues about the abuse by the british media elements within the british media and before anyone else raised and we were doing on behalf of for example the national union journalists who had many of their members bullied if they weren't for example involving themselves in what may fall from professional practices intrusions in personal personal privacy of people and they were reporting a problem so we raised those issues and it all does all come down to a lack of democratic strategy control of our media but the concentration of powers in ownership of critique there is a lack of diversity of british media by u.k. shadow chancellor john mcdonald but what's happened since allegedly working with those who support try didn't nuclear weapons in scotland here is attacking the
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channel he appeared on one very clear thing that you could do is stop appearing on russia today which is we describe but what if you rode business as a kremlin propaganda vehicle i think that's right now and that's what i'll be doing of appeared on the past sometimes to challenge some of the issues internationally and also to raise issues here that we're concerned about in terms of well not just russia's role but also the international scene overall and i think that's right because i think from what we're seeing from russian today at times goes beyond objective journalism so why the change and why did they go on to say on the state mandated b.b.c. whose own political editor was criticised for bias against corbin by the b.b.c. regulator that m.p.'s shouldn't appear on this program r.t. is the biggest television news channel on the internet with billions of hits and you can tell us whether you think organs chancellor is wrong or right or why he should be supporting to raise a maze position on media multi. less of
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a via social media that strays a may who like corbin's political enemies supported the war on syria it's only a few months since the prime minister herself visited our a.f. akrotiri in cyprus from where the tornado jets flew their sorties one thing is for sure media has been largely monolithic arguably in britain about to raise a maze a port for rebels trying to overthrow the government of syria and social media is certainly having little of what president putin and prime minister netanyahu had to say about last week's killing of fifteen russian servicemen after an israeli warplane attack on syria so let's go to what used to be syria's largest city aleppo joining me via skype from his perspective is aleppo's independent member of the syrian parliament the fires thanks for coming back on before we get to monday's deal what did you think of president putin's diplomatic response to the israeli bombardment of your country i think it's added with enough and i think behind it there is a clear clear it's all resolved by russia really or that the skies of syria to make it off limits to all of these you know nato aggressors and to the special people
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these really really jets that keep redefining the national recognized rights you think it's good enough because putin appeared to say it's just a tragic series of events we didn't say didn't seem to tell israel to stop bombing and of course israel for its sakes as it was bombing to stop hezbollah or iran in your country you think putin's response is fine yes i mean he doesn't need to say it really are you not bluntly i mean it's obvious from things that we we starting to feel on the ground we knew you would be set. you know i don't think you would say good luck lightly that this really is you lose the hidden behind it deformed like a cloud behind the russian jet in order to really cause this tragedy and there are some you know also some theories saying that the israelis themselves struck the russian ship anyway and we have. fifteen russian groups that we consider martyrs
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and we send our condolences on their families and they die but that in syria there died with them in disguise of syria and the cost of their death without any doubt is on the shoulders of israel if the israelis really want to dest. political statement they should try again to see what happens but do you think that this israeli attack on syria the latest because there have been many i know in your country is linked to the sochi deal on syria between turkey and russia well most definitely when it comes only hours after the announcement of only hours this is not a coincidence this is this is a clear message clear message to everybody who signed the deal particularly the russians that they are acting on the no you know on behalf of syria and telling ben telling everybody in the deal that we can start whatever we want we don't like this deal we don't want you to do to aurilia liberate libya dismantle
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jihad is an implicit but just that the in his are dismantling jihad isn't it without fighting a single bullet and we don't want that we want it to be hot so on we want to know so i would just look at the branch in syria to be at there to be strong there and we will do reveal any effort to really is the situation this is the israeli message and they've always had that whenever there is such an improvement on the ground the we have we've seen we always saw an israeli air strike in the past but as i said israel says it was wrong to attack his buller but i'm sure by the international legal implications of that then he also has part of the deal that the players there russia and turkey which have fifteen thousand is the number of rebels in liberal incautiously seem to welcoming but are these fifteen thousand so-called rebels in adlib are they backed by britain well first of all the numbers not fifteen thousand the u.n.
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said that wasn't for indeed parties for in one thousand foreign we estimate the number to reach a hundred thousand. among the hundred thousand we think thirty thousand before enters we just want them out of our country they belong to one hundred and maybe three nationalities they're not serious they are the latin boys didn't they didn't notice from zawahiri from the cave in dunbar i don't know where do you think any country in the wards particularly the united kingdom would welcome only one or two of these girls why are why do it form for me as a syrian citizen why do i have to accept the existence of them thousands for in jihad he's only miles away from from this interview only miles away actually it's like to get ominous from where we are they are on the borders of course the knowledge and this office here the chamber of industry is on that board also so basically. whether there are ten thousand whether there are ten people whether
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there are thirty thousand or one hundred thousand their existence is not welcome here but if any agreements that that says that that will that will dismantle them and take them from our country peacefully we welcome it. if these agreements fear for whatever reason then we have no other option but the use of force to liberate our country to save the two million civilians obviously is the being there and to make millions more return or you mention the two kilometers away from you but i know you've warned us in an interview with a statement a b.b.c. here that there's a chance of them coming to their this studio what do you think the state of syrian intelligence is about the returning foreign jihadists as you call them to london and to britain look we don't lie and for indy hardy's to go anywhere because they are dangerous deal big deal societies in big what why do the why do normal british
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citizen citizens have the support from the stupid actions of their government this is no one like this we stop it from them and because from our somebody i'm telling you we don't want the suffering to be imposed on any nation in the world ok more danger they pose what danger they pose britain these people that after a were similar by britain are people of great danger great that you are actually you have base that some of their terrorism already did but this government needs to change course immediately they need to establish beyond that they need to reopen their embassy they need to recognize the legitimate rights of the syrian people and the syrian state and they need to cooperate in the fight against international terrorism otherwise there will be the blame if any harm is to do a grrr on any british citizen but you support to resume suspending money for security forces that worked in areas controlled by terror i think you know i mean i
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think the reason he is doing or not of policies and actions are to promote and to some boat that are isn't serious there is so many clenched money in the white helmets the white helmets are known to be outside. arm in it. you know are not the most mysterious are all good only in muslim only in the places where you have ok i got all of their pain friends as a nato member like holland has refused has now stopped all aid to the white helmets will obviously have to get reaction well it's their legs it's holland that's been supporting beastie are these for now six or seven years i mean no i mean they and this should be accountable because the officials in holland that support that did the ok i think all products that are that are is organization even dutch law not only in british law when i married the law you m.r.
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so basically it's not enough for us to say well i still hope i will end the of my financial support to these jihadi groups really what about your support read what about the cost that the harm that you cost to us to the syrian people by supporting the jihadi groups are going to not you're not going to be held accountable to that let's just get on to this so-called false flag attack that moscow is warning the world about it's quite quiet here about syria in the mainstream media what do you make of this the olive group is a british company denying it has any involvement in the us that they were involved in the training of people for a false flag chemical attack that we should expect what do you think on the ground there in the lead or does it sound believable. look exactly yes i mean this happened before and not you know if you remember when i was just sixteen and the days when they would be when they shot the movie the infamous movie the last metabolic bull in a limbo it was it was a real kind of this at the time and we have
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a big one there once filming this movie but outside of course the black flag we're protecting this site so same thing happened already in just a short in it some people also told us that there be they also feel a little be fabricated the movie and the city off and back to be aired later their movies are already filmed there recorded. just meet the bush start to start but them to air of those movies they are not the only thing filmed there was more what is aleppo trade fair all we hear about is war there in britain of course supporting groups in your country there's a trade fair aleppo's slowly starting to get back to normal what it was before this war yes actually it was the only book fair and then after that there was just the recent one was the masks and that national affair which i love but participated in the big number of companies. the economic life. is starting to come back rapidly. specially the eastern parts of aleppo ma about eight hundred
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thousand people returned to eastern parts of aleppo that proves that all these propaganda that he had on other media is really nonsense because the country is secure the country secular you are free to dress like you want you to do whatever you want not unlike jihadi land would you how the land women are the center second or third class citizens. they have to be have to convert their faces they have to cover their bodies they cannot go out. you know religious clergy member running be show you know it's totally different i mean we are we live a normal life what you see in the west. and we want this also this our lifestyle our freedom to reach also it live so that the people of that live will be liberated and feel like they are real syrian citizens free of any jihadi mercenaries ruling by a travel thank you. you're welcome you well after the break. the burning tower but
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there's a climate of fear continuing in london's kensington and chelsea with or without. going underground. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to the demonstrations going to be relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it. still in the middle of the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four. those who chilcote has invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. you
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know it's amazing that america people all join a group to save nine dollars on sushi with their friends and using the group of fact by health care but he said you know why why that group bought logic to health care so that you can afford health care at all make you bankrupt like the socialism but that they get all that because they've been trained by the professional media cocker c industry and propagandists to run the big media outlets for people to have a trigger response to affordable health care equals communist. welcome back i'm at the council house community room just minutes away from the grand felt hour in the past seventy two hours former residents of the poorest area in one of the richest on earth. around the granville tower in london have been
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given an ultimatum move back or lose access to their community within those helena thompson the artistic director of the social political independent direct theatre company and the writer of the burning tower about the granville disaster thanks elder for him to speed tell me about what the burning towers over the burning towers about two girls who are sharing the history of social housing when you come to the plate they fill you in on everything they've studied and learned and as the play goes on you stop at that one of them is it going for survival and she find it difficult to talk about her experience it's you as an audience are asked to get involved and support her in sharing what she's been through before it's even revealed that one of them is a granville's of over the history they're telling very entertaining really with or leo and all sorts of other effects in the drama are very different to the history.
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nor documentaries about bridges tree there's something we all about the history that we share i think and that with n.t. steve comes through we do have a living history program where kids go and talk to local residents about their member of social housing and that's what informed that's what forms the soundscapes of the trauma that's what informs the characters and that's what keeps it back authentic edge because the jugular you know their history that they're telling before this revelation they seem to suggest that it's really is a break in the whole idea and concept of social housing was really going in the burst a few years. that's right there is a line in the past i think it's we're well. you think it's you think it's. and the history mapped is and can be protected but the actual
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safety net doesn't exist and it's just that the whole grenfell disaster is not about clouding more firefighters not doing what they should be it's about something else about people being ignored correct and i think that that is the issue i think residents in social housing and not least into the housing is not valued as it should be and i think if we don't listen to each other we sell ourselves short collectively as a society so the play is about the importance at least i'm sure the government would say see they are listening and that's where this is begin querrey so. in a sense the government has responded to the critique in the book it's good that we have an inquiry i mean it would be a terrible mistrust if there were no inquiry but there are a number of other things that the government. maybe realized that i hadn't dealt with properly explored how i actually feel and i know there's many people in the
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area because like you have to have to get up and move on. and go about your business because life moves on you have to move on with it because in the immediate aftermath the prime minister was great is. not going there eventually did visit the area. she was very curated but yes she did but she said she wants to help. the first responders like the. second set of a she goes and. which is supporting them well you know you can't pick and choose who you're supporting as. it is ongoing with them this week we heard about these letters about the fact that you. but i have to return to the ground. just tell me about the less isn't what you think of. what they mean as regards the authorities response to the disaster. i think. i think it's disgusting.
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and it just goes to show what happens when you don't hold people to account so they can go faster than people's lives people. and rightly so because you for years they've been telling. anyone that would listen. the question isn't safe the clothing that is on it isn't safe. and then took in the same people who are telling you. all the very same people. when. two people are dead and now that's one of them always safe to go back. and then also. you have. you have people. telling them. this is what needs to happen it doesn't need to happen to have a heart compassion and understand that these people not only grief. suffering from p.t.s.d. because they were told they had to evacuate their homes but you're sleeping soundly
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to go in business and that's you know your neighbors are. house is probably in jeopardy because they did evacuate them for nothing i meant to tell them on the say oh wait. no i would be i would be just as has since moved back. and just remind us how rich the royal birkin's. is up the road the houses. looking up for. free cause of a million. because other people talked about the emergency response in the immediate aftermath. just one percent of the value of a big house down the road but it paid for professional mental health services and emergency provisions right there in the state of the community coming together it just makes me think what is the point of having the council.
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has to provide. safety just help the general running of this community. the community stepped up provided. they should have been doing affectively they should. be in that position. because. now i know you've said before that despite the so-called social cleansing that's happened right across the country since the twenty crash you said actually community still does survive and up to the greenville business the number of. communities so massive five despite it all we have to it's not so much a question like. maybe. because we can't leave it up to them because look what happened when we did we lost seventy two people. and. many people in the area think. it's agree with them.
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we just know how we had to come together it was that what would happen if we had waited to get this do. you see when you make an allegation like that i mean this program going into trouble from the middle times for saying it was promoting plus war when you say i think being protected adequately by the authorities. is you. i mean do you think people should go to jail. if you killed seventy two people you would be in jail like i'm not talking like a little bit of. the. no i mean like hard time because like lessons must be learned and actions have consequences and if you tell people that it has consequences they'll be a pasta loser people's lives. may be remarking on the fact that the royal palace is not too far from here being refurbished with taxpayers' money as is redevelopment
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of public resources here in this area but i have nothing against the world. i just feel like their involvement of grenfell it comes of i don't know if i'm a just comes across as is that like damage control. or are you just trying to hide the fact that you've got all this money. paying for your house whereas you could. to make sure that my friends' homes were safe and as for media coverage there's more you covered. for the community. but i'm glad. to help but i'd rather they use their influence for what we really want which is justice but you. use it also bloody just as they killed my friends like they killed my friends but like what they hope badly just gold. i'm sorry it's
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like there's no no no i'm just what i need you have confidence that in the inquiry . i'm going to minds about it.


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