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ah, the ah time action or time, see we're getting underground 10 years to the day since london police shot and killed my dog and catalyzing the biggest nationwide uprising across britain for a generation coming up in the show, the member of parliament inform a chair of scotland yards operation, tried and advisory group truly a web on whether all it takes is a spark from the line grievances to make a game. and the inspiration behind. so steve mcqueen's groundbreaking, small acts anthology alex, we will tell us how classism is the only schism plaguing british society in the
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country where black people feel $800.00 times more likely to be stopped by police. all the small coming up in today's special edition of going underground, but 1st it's been 10 years since british man mark doug was killed in police custody, which spot the largest nationwide rides in the u. k. scene in 30 years now a decade later, u. k. prime minister bars johnson has proposed a new plan to tackle crime in a country where black people are statistically more likely to be arrested. joining me now from lester is m b villa street. in the former chair of the met police is operation tried and independent advisory group put a web. cool. thanks so much for coming on. i can't believe it's 10 years obviously . i mean, how have police powers changed during those 10 years? we now have official reports saying, the metropolitan belief, scotland yard here is a, institutionally, not only racist with the institutional corrupt or you know, it has been 10 years and mom should be live today. he
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didn't feel a time. the extent of institutional life is in the u. k. i think the 10 year on from that to little progress has been made to and this is the racial and ethnic inequality. did you take criminal justice? i mean, some of the vacation in the u. k. need to demonstrate why black lives matter. important. the white a newsman, been so necessary. life has been, have been the monthly undervalued for too long, and suddenly 10 years on that we need to strengthen our we so to end, to be in which i'm going to, to the day. so now many is the time to end to be class racial inequality. which of course around the world are we seeing that quite clearly quite
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starkly. and we also see that we have not made much progress in all of the time. and it says the connected need here when it comes to the police and you know, not even just 10 years locked up and death. but actually 40 years since this. com and report 1981. and because it brings no joy to the situation. i'm pretty much no joy for the family of mom who was, i believe unjustly, killed by police in a failed operation. of course, you know, at that time i know
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a lot about what happened because i was the chair of operation try to, i mean you monitoring your monitoring log into the time. it has to be said that obviously by an $8.00 to $2.00 majority, he was judged to have been lawfully killed by metropolitan police. what did it mean that you were monitoring him if you want to show him at the time that he was killed? one of the monitoring at the time the police in operation which was operational tried you when we went up and was on vacation as part of something called operation fee, which was run by a question. tried in a unique, obviously, been the metropolitan police. and as you know, the chair and tried to independent advisory, it was that community as a community way back to the big 990. that we set up a commission trying to tackle the proportionate of government on the black
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community that the police about with diane and nothing was set. there is no publication to re stablish, tried to, to just that. and it took 4 years to get the police to understand that you can't deal with black people as a criminal. you have to address the fact that the black communities are dying at people personally by the gun, murders, feud by drugs. and the police took all that time to get a right. and then the fragility of the relationship between the police out of the community was worn out by the shooting of he died needlessly. and she's not a guy. i've the chair operation tried and i know all to well, that when the head is trying at the time, we're traveling to the c and a right to see a relation to mom and i know to well with in the sock. i remained in the by
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the can side away from the drugs, obviously drugs as an afghan, extend my lease one's about this about drugs. the issue was that the police believe that the car was carrying a weapon. reality ended up that he needed me because there was no gun, a fire from the weapon that he was supposedly carrying. and then no, no, no, no, no of him throwing back weapon away. i mean that then that whole thing, the kind of justice probably had was, was a justice because he wasn't, it wasn't dealt with properly. you should still be in like 2 days. you probably
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should be getting an apology. and i the main main at the failure place to address this and what i need basically covered all the crews. and that's the problem. but of course, so when it came to the killing itself, journalistic like myself were given information from the independent police complaints commission. briefing us dugan was shot shot, a police or some gun battle. they even went had b, b. c footage, censored at the time. how do you explain all of this in the aftermath of all the shooting that would mean nationwide uprisings across the country and angle? yeah, i mean this is still full of misinformation that was going on at the time to please make separate sessions about most of the remaining testing to the median being stored. and the fire shocked, caught on the media story to use in about
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a to my explain that now to you with the the collective responsibilities police along the media plays out because he did mention about the notion of a she thought and violent gang the wrench, killing people openly because the media information now and this was make information and came out of the store. why? why glee and i mean, and in fact, where they were trying to say they were trying to justify and why mom was shot dead. and that can be no justification because it's very clear that the office, the shot trust,
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i mean back not even short. first from what i was told, as i was being told by the head of the tribes at that time, what gun was beside me? i'm not even left the cold sock where, where they got the bush was shot. i think the professional opinion time that was not the pinion that would then we fluid into the quest that found that was lawfully. and i think a week after a week the independent police complaints commission issue this statement, but conceded it may have inadvertently given weekly information to journalist following the sheet, it ok maybe with action and they said it should cross the deck, resigned the head of scotland yard is always,
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you mean the controversy about her policing officer evarado demonstration visual for her as be in georgia? i had them in as, as killed in south london. there's been so many different contrivances should, should she resign? you know, when you have a police in the, in the u. k, continuing to fail, somebody has to take responsibility for that failure. and we had so many different scenarios where the level of institutional racism remains. why with the lack of peace of felicity and where police seem has been out of control and the, the community that effective that and been the black community in the car and in the other community more broadly and more. why? well, what happened in the,
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in the active off of the say we're killing my cases under way that cases under way. i don't know why we got to, but you know, do i think somebody to be how can you recall that was one in charge of trying to well, she's had a low for female police commissioner. somebody need to take a possibility. and i think on this occasion, she ought to take me possibility for not being forced into the 21st. then people are not affecting the fading that are happening. but of course, you know, i don't really want to hold responsibility. just one person i'm, i'm talking about a whole that
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a failing but can i just can i just very briefly ask you finally, i mean, we got to your case with cps, but the head of the c. p. s, at that time was cast alma, an overnight court alleged to be dealing with collective punishments to people involved in the uprising morris. johnson, who is mayor of london, arguably got political capital after his cleaning the streets after the uprising. what are the political repercussions of the uprising that followed the mark dugan? a demonstration, i mean is burst johnson prime minister today. partly because of what happened. i think the end of the day the, the community response to the failed cli was something that really reflects that. there was an immediate, ask them, in terms of the why it or the uprising where people would be hurt by the way in which the pete, the police handled the situation. there was also
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a loaner car and there was a intervention by in terms of the criminal justice system to address that issue. but the reality didn't, the aftermath of kate was very poor, the family that went to the police station to find the receipt, no losses at 300 people when peacefully to the police station to see also. and there was a sense of frustration with the way in which the black community was complete and the victim and reality remained to the day i'm in the senate. nothing trend for can you all come from the, from 981 cake in appropriate police. and that's why my
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nieces and the aftermath of what happened to joe floyd became a global for not of them, but a u. k. couple hasn't yet gone away. please, thank you. after the break from the 1981 bricks, an uprising to an m b. the inspiration behind one assist mcqueen small accept a certain gives us his take on the nation wide uprising catalyzed by the london police killing of mach doug. and 10 years ago today, all the symbol coming up and bought 2 of going underground they are growing indications. donald trump will indeed make a 3rd run for the presidency in 2024. the former president remains the most favored potential primary candidate within the g o p. but what about the republican party leadership? are they on board? and does tom have a message that would return him to 1600 pennsylvania?
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i'm going back divers financials to live. i know made a girl i want to do the central product support. don't call them right now. they stopped in the welcome back and bought when we spoke to the member of parliament. next chair suantlan yards, operation trident advisory group. claudia, web about the 10 year anniversary, the police killing doug, which catalyzed an uprising across britain not seen for a generation. someone who was jailed up in the seminal uprising that preceded it. bricks in 1981 and the fact is award winning author and inspiration behind. when to steve mcqueen, small ex phil mythologies, alex wheedle, he joins me now from lincoln. was it thanks so much alex for coming on. i got to
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say, congratulations to being on a long list of this diverse book. awards became more is that's about $1761.00 you make of the legacy of the, the greatest of raising for a generation the anniversary which falls today after the killing of doug. and what concerns me because so we government boys don't for the government seem to be we plan the areas of previous governments. and so to start racism and i mean pretty patel even more or less allowed in crowds. it seems of black players. and i know this is going to be angry and so many young people that i work with. i know, i'm sorry, i feel that may. oh, sure. just outside, just we didn't want to make one. so $0.02 is sweating anger among black people
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right now because of the policies are these governments, i mean, we're not too far away from the wind stand as well as will not be. so the government says they're going to speed up the wind rush payments. that was a big scandal for our international view. as about the black people who lived here for a decade to suddenly finding themselves, being deported. pretty tell the current home secretary said the black lives matter protests were dreadful. it mentioning the prime minister boris johnson. i know it's something that you've talked about in the pause operations swamp in the eighty's. yeah, i mean the john to stop and search is loving. he's use the phrase, it's a loving, stood by and wants to increase the levels of stuff in search. i mean, will that lead to another uprising? i believe so, because goes where the probate mostly he's never witnessed the experience of young people. so i mean look to split into uncle william's just last year when she
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was travelling with her and she had a child, you know, back and she was a man how to that car because we mean baby was inside about some of them actually unintended. and that was great humidity. and so when boys johnson talks about lobby and we have no idea what he's referring to because our experience is also pretty dreadful. and so for him to come out of those kind of statements to describe angus, the black community in this country. now, i know you contributed to the documentary by the queen about the new cross fire. we got to go into a piano all of that, but that was a scene is a racist attack lethal races attack to killed 13 people that went on on the inquiries and an open verdict. mock dug and he was killed 10 years ago today. he was lawfully killed, according to an a to,
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to majority verdict. so for me and this will be killed. bird. people repeat themselves. i mean, i know schools of black people being you know, losing their lives in police custody way by the way, back to the fifties and sixties. and it keeps happening. and police officers seem to be getting this allowance to deal with black lives community. and to my memory, i don't freak out to the coin. no, he's actually been calling me to death in custody of lap person. so this is why so much anger pulls out on the streets when whenever this occurs. and so we don't think even now we do know the full details, we have no trash and especially the quizzes come on. and the question is the way that she remains open policy and so we just kind of
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talk it in the office again. we can go from one to 5. why? so why where peace was killed. and then we had 2011 with my dog. and so when, when i mean, i'm not saying that boris johnson is a secret malcolm x insurrection re, but then they use saying that increase step and search increased. i mean, you services, i mean slash by 372000000 pounds, the national budget where doug was killed short, killed by police, 85 percent cut in youth services. there. i mean, you don't think the government secretly, once in uprising. i mean, do you think that's like do because they're playing today based on the last election you lost out to the conservatives. so in my opinion, they all play into that audience trying to run. pop is wages we do believe that is
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government issue for it. you know, so you can use culture was time for me is on this is so you shouldn't gotten like, i mean these last lessons because operations 1981 and that we saw in bricks and in april and you know, they could all say trying to focus on crime, but they sweep on innocent people involved the national professional probation that it didn't 81 and they were like was do the same thing once more and hanging on the community and was smaller community was to be invited to commence on whatever crime is happened to be in a neighborhood because they associate with the police and 40 and so really it doesn't ring them any friends. and so i believe that any alteration they want to
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undertake it should be intelligence rather than just randomly starting any young black boy on the street. it seems to me, but ok, where you are an artist. so this is go to the music that's, that's, that's about culture of girl and been censorship of drill music types of gray music. you are an established with me guys. so you're going to say the molly and steel balls are better than what's happening in south london. up and down the country, but what role does music play and will it play? if indeed, this summer is the tinderbox, that you prepared to be saying is when you refer to my own generation 9 to 991 and in music, we're listening not just music, even alan called us. i mean, you mentioned still pulse. remember, the sleeve album showed on crumbling, kind of pride community was company and down. and so i don't remember the old one
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of the line with a black clutch. you know, why? and it does have a tremendous impact on always be in music channel stumping out because this question on how young people don't really feeling deprived they feel marginalized. they go into what makes west and there's no way that and gone and consult them underground. young people with sort of listens away and it's to be influenced by it. so you're going to be very careful about trying to control it. you are, you are lucky enough to go to jail and learn about james and 80 in prison. and i don't sure about this generation. i mean, is heroic. there's been a coo and hey g, whilst all this is going on a plan damage and the disturbances that are expected this summer in britain. i mean, yes, young people link all this together. i really hope so. i mean,
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we were news away and we kind of knew was going on around the world. i mean, lincoln, lucy taught us because so many singers spoke about and related new stories about what's happening and most be and go to south africa. and so when people today, they're not really aware what's going on in ohio, not as much as i was aware about ireland when i was a young man, one knew about that. we complain about it and so on. duty or my generation say hey steve says say look, what's going on here? and it reminds me actually with scott president, ravens invasion of i think it was grenada. and again, my going to be and that they felt they had a right to do that is always been the have isn't it would be kind of relations and
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stalking over the younger junior nations, thinking that they can do what they like. we've been pusey and sometimes it comes back to them in the was in that got to start and so for so you know, we have to be careful here. well, they are trying to achieve and this should be encouraging for what, what is doing? well, inquiry is. beatrice stepped in british role. the british role in iraq, afghanistan alleged a war crimes. the eighty's though, i mean there was the i m f back. james callahan in labor and then they had my word to isn't about socialist against sharing those eighty's, that sort of period. we have a kiss tom or who championed overnight chords for activists after the uprising following the dugan merger by police 10 years ago. you think it's difficult, we have crescent, a dick you mentioned earlier than from the metropolitan police, who apparently was one of the main offices behind sean shaw them. and as is who is
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shot dead by police and kiss tom who is the c b s person there who didn't continue the prosecution. and it was, it was, it's scarce tom or the neighbor, the opposite leader who says 10 sentences for war, memorial, vandalism, presumably referring to some statuary, this, taken that recently is a much less hope now. then there was back that for me personally. yes. because i do not believe be to be in position, especially off of the murder in the young man outside. so well to say she should not be in place. i mean, it is cold and flat. she was cold when decision making. and when we go to install labor for food, but still have that trust me. and i mean, just the other day she was doing the house and collins and
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boys johnson's for his multitude o lives. that he speaks in the collins and yeah, we come back and so i really don't think he's a strong man. we need to confront because i would do some hold into account. i mean, even boys johnson himself, he once said a few years ago, africa will be much good to sit in charge. i mean, for me that is, infinity is blaine to races, statement and yet hardly anybody, even new supporters could count for that. but you seem to get away with it. i know it's going to challenge him on it and he has a built in breast. and as always be the case in the u. k. and so with the last job we come in and so on. they not only have to for, i think also to talk to but after why is wing press on the daily telegraph the, the times. and so on, and that's in case too much of
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a mountain decline. johnson would say he was defending muslim women to whether nicole and obviously he didn't. he's lying with alex. we don't thank you. thank you very much. that's it for the show will be back on saturday because he said to the day us, president johnson signed the false flag. gulf of tonkin resolution paving the way to tens of millions dead wounded or displaced through vietnam low in cambodia until then keep in touch, right, social media and let us know what you think the issues raised by the killing of our dog and 10 years ago. have been laid to rest. join me every thursday on the alex silent shore and i'll be speaking to guess in the world. the politics sport. business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. in
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