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tv   Cross Talk  RT  October 18, 2021 12:30am-1:00am EDT

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ah ah, i hello and welcome to cross stock were all things considered? i'm peter lavelle. there are growing indications that washington isn't finished with afghanistan just yet. military involvement has come to an end, but not engagement. also, we were told there is an energy crisis. maybe this is part of the great reset. ah to discuss these issues and more. busy i'm joined by my guess, marcus papadopoulos in london. he's a historian analyst, an author of the book, arise, receive the return of russia to world politics and implements. we have patrick huntington. he is the editor and founder of the 21st century wire dot com, or
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a gentleman, cross talk rules, and the fact that means you can jump any time you want, and i was to appreciate it. ok, let's are out with marcus. ever since the chaotic withdrawal from a couple in the, in the western world, particularly in the washington foreign policy. so there's been a lot of discussion of what, what is next year and actually what is actually happened and is happening because on the one hand you have many saying and this is the subtext is a reason to go back in is that the taliban or ne with isis and al qaeda and all of this. and then there's another narrative out there that, that visually it was very chaotic, but policy wise, there may be some kind of underlying attempt to engage the taliban. it's some kind of barrier and even possible ally in, in the region when it comes to american foreign policy. it's really there's a lot of emotion attached to this. okay, honey, you see,
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and because there's one thing that you can't deny, a lot of military equipment was left behind during the civil war which raged from and 996 to 2001. it approximately took the taliban that then one year so emerged triumphant in the country. and yet in 2021. despite the presence of the u. s. military in africa on to get away of the after an army which was trained and ultimately equipped by washington. it took the taliban a matter of weeks to conquer the whole of the country. now, any one, just an ounce of enlightenment about military affairs will conclude that it will simply inconceivable for the taliban on their own. so
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conquered, asking to stone a country exceptionally large, exceptionally diverse with the american military presence of why pizza late enough. so the taliban victory in africa. and on the day they end to, oh, i stood almost alone on television by saying that i believe the west america. and also britain arrived at an informal agreement with the taliban, where by the americans and the british would allow the taliban to emerge victorious so long to ask on his son. and in return, the taliban would have to ensure about american america and britain retained that strategic influence in afghanistan. and what we have seen since. in fact, what we saw within days of the talent and entry into campbell was,
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maintains between the taliban and the director of the c. i. meetings between the taliban and the heads of britons from an intelligent service. yes. more commonly known as m i 6. we have also seen the taliban guarantee in public the security of western pipelines in afghanistan. and we have also seen western mainstream major both in america and in britain begin the process of condition in the american. i'm british people to seem to see in the telephone as a ally against isis because the americans and the british mainstream. major outlets are starting to tell people about the taliban and the taliban. and from the 99 season, the 2 thousands, they had reforms they have even pledged to all deserve and respect human rights. so
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what i believed page says that the americans and the british are very much going on . they do not need an army occupations control afghanistan. they have simply, i write that an informal agreement, talent, and they control key institutions in afghanistan, such as the civil service. and i believe that sooner rather than later, washington and london willis will formalize the informal relations with the taliban . by reopening the embassies in jumping in there. because you could also make the argument in what we just heard can be true. but it can also be true that that the taliban are, are playing the field. of course, you have they, they've met the russians. the russians met with them before, even though the taliban is designated by russia as a terrorist organization. on china has chimed in as well. so it looks like the great game in this, it's the 21st century version of the here,
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because i would agree with marcus that the u. s. wants to can maintain at least some form of influence there because it's the, the taliban is reaching out to others. and we have to remind everyone part of the trump deal was that our groups like al qaeda and isis will had to be had to be under control. meaning they wouldn't be using afghanistan as a base for foreign endeavors here with. so there's a lot of mix commentary again it because of the emotional shock for so many people that were so best in the war and they're going to go get a pedal that narrative. so i think things are in flux here. but remember, patrick reacted with marcus, i'm to say it was very interesting. yeah. you could say or comment on what continue it, marcus, this point. i think you can go off to the segue. but it, when the early ninety's, when the taliban took power, it was, it was, you know,
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a lot of people in the west don't realize that a lot of people in afghanistan at that time saw them is the lesser of 2 evils. because all these warlords, northern alliance types that the u. s. had backed later post 911. they were responsible and known throughout afghanistan for committing grave atrocities. and so when they were, when the taliban came to power, even by the women of, of afghanistan were seen as a lesser of 2 evils. so it wasn't as black and white it because the afghan war is portrayed as a women's rights issue. in the west, i mean that was the sort of overriding narrative right through everything justified that the intervention and that's how it played out anyway, in terms of the liberal press and so forth with the reality is much more complicated. and the point marcus was making about the u. s. strategic interests. so the question is, what are those strategic interests? and yes, you have the tapi,
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the torque menaced an afghan pakistan india pipeline. that's definitely a western interest. why is that a western interest? because that's in direct competition with the c pack of chinese pakistan energy corridor, which is part of the belton road initiative. so these are competing supply lines. india is, is a big set piece in western geopolitical had your money terms. and so who can win india and also cut off china to derive china. i mean the u. s. it's known the u . s. are backing belushi militants and they're attacking some of these very areas, including your, the water port of water in pakistan. you have the militants in my and more you have the stable mission there. that's another route. china needs these overland routes to bypass any potential disruption in the south china sea august. and the sort of
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the things that we're looking at that could take place in the future in terms of disrupting shipping lanes and so forth. so china has a very diverse strategy, and one of the main step pieces also is shing john, western china. and there was a z, a isis, the emergence of isis k is. if you look back at the history of this so called terrorists group, ok that they just re branded entices k was the chorus and group in 2013 or no, sorry, 20142015. this was a term coined by the u. s. intelligence. when james clapper was in charge, this is an obama administration, in my opinion, and probably many others who looked at this closely. it's a kind of a construct the course and group, and it is a pedigree through it. i'm so sorry. i'll cut in the raping the peninsula the underwear bomber. it runs right through this bit of classic and intelligence, clandestine and terrorist construction that the u. s. or they've just basically
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revived it and all the sudden suicide bomb attacks. and after the pull out in afghanistan, so what is the nicest fraction doing in afghanistan, but playing it disruptive role, you just had all the wiggers as escaping from prison, magically after the u. s. withdrew you have all these other isis militants who were somehow simultaneously escaped from prison? i'm sure there they had assistance in that. so that's the major g hardy jailbreak that you saw right before the emergence of isis in july of 2014. so i see of this repeating pattern that's forming right now. and so the, like you said, the u. s. doesn't need to be in afghanistan, militarily, like marcus said, and they, there's other things that they can do to direct the affairs in the region. it sounds like mark, as it sounds like to me is that, you know, in western historical conference. we go from this state to this state here. but any
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given what we've already said here on our program, is it, this is just the continuation of the civil war just in a different direction with different people with different names because it sounds like what this is, what's going on right here. go ahead. yes, i also believe that history teaches us that the americans and the british only withdraw from a country on strategic value to them if they have been militarily defeated in that country. and the americans and the british will not militarily defeated in afghanistan. it is true, the americans and the british whenever able to military inflicts at the fates on the taliban. but at the same time, the telephone were never able to defeat the americans and the british. marcus also is another failure, is that the us was never able to legitimize their proxy government in the eyes of the population. that was a very key thing. and i think fundamentally,
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that is the reason why they decided to be okay, because there was nothing you could do to legitimize that government was just corrupt to the core. keep going indeed. i mean, we have a look at the casualties which the american british military's incurred in ask and his song, but losses what all most negligible. so that is why it comes back to my assertion which i have been putting out for some months now that the americans and the british had no reason to leave afghanistan. ask and his phone is of immense strategic value to both washington and london as it was to the british empire in the 19th in the 19th century. so that is why i believe we will see true the americans and the british, french, russian national security through central asia because of central asia is russia.
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he also to speak to the taliban, the americans and the british. we'll continue to try and stabilize shine, which is a restless muslim province in china. and also a free to tell about the americans in the british will be able to limit iran's influence in the region. a lot more to talk about when it comes up as an in the future going to go to a short break. and after that your break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our ah ah, i look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such order to conflict with the 1st law of the patient. we should be very careful about personal intelligence at the point, obviously is too great trust, rather than fear a with artificial intelligence,
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with a robot most protective phone existence, with a well the back to cross that were all things are considered on peter labelle. this is the home addition to remind you, we're discussing some real issues. ah ok, let's change gears here. patrick the western world. busy world in general is experiencing a quote unquote energy crisis here. in many ways, for me, i certainly can see consumers are feeling i,
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a shortage high prices. there's no denying, but the cause of a well, that's a different issue altogether and i sum it up with this 2 ideas, ranking competence and ideology. i'll explain later. go ahead. yeah, so you know, it's funny how the press has reported this, this energy shock price shock and it's, it's seen is like some active nature. it's just some organic event that just happened. and we all have to deal with this surgeon, record search and wholesale energy prices. and the reality is that this isn't an organic act of god. this is a direct result of government policies, specific policy decisions made by the governments of europe made by great britain made by the united states and other g 7 countries included. ok. so there are there the willingness to go along with this green new deal, or ideologically mainly ideologically driven directors. and we saw the results of
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it last winter in germany when the wind turbines froze. when there was no solar power, when they couldn't meet their base load demand, what did they do? they fired up the same thing in texas. yes, they fired up the coal plants. so now what do you see? you see a coals. ready coming back now they have to do this again. what's happened to the price of coal? it surged. what does that mean? they need to by carbon credits or carbon offsets. so the carbon markets are booming because of a restriction and supply to the energy market. so what's the result of this? a fossil fuels becoming expensive? this price is being passed on to consumers. ok, but a lot, but what's really caused this, this started during the enron revolution. the total deregulation and free floating of wholesale price is derivative, markets were introduced for energy spec. the speculation industry was basically opened up. and although enron collapsed and people were arrested and charges were
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brought, the system still remains. so it's, you can manipulate the energy market, then you add to this, the price of gas, because if russia was allowed to supply via the north stream to buy other pipeline project, it would help to stabilize the spot price. and so they're blue. now they're blaming russia. use including of weapon ising energy is just if some believable, so russia just wants to be a good partner to europe, provide constant cheap and stable, natural gas. and marcus, the amazing thing is, i've been, i've been following the russian energy market for 2 years. i mean, a long, long time. and one thing that they've always stressed in gas from is always said, because that's the monopoly export of russia, is that they want long term contracts. they want to stay away from this speculation . and that's what it all is exactly what patrick was saying, my dear, this is a for some people, a one person's crisis is a small group about,
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well the people's opportunity here. and again, the incompetence of it. ok when, when we have the, the height of the lock down in the west. ok? consumption went down and then you know, they, they can fill up the storage units and then when they walk down starting to come to an end, there was a surgeon in demand. and while they are doing that same time, they should have been refilling the storage units, but they weren't. ok, i mean just incompetent. i mean i'm, i don't even work in that industry and i know that go ahead mark. firstly in the u . k. energy prices rise the wrong year, not because of not because of a supposed energy crisis, but because energy, electricity, and gas in britain is privatized. secondly, britain has relied to expensively on liquefied natural gas and firmly. the british government should have put politics aside. i should've emulated the agreement with
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germany rates wave russia by which germany will receive a constant and uninterrupted flow of natural gas, which is crucial to the german industry and crucial to german domestic councils. pizza. i want to share story review patches and our viewers recently on the box on a journey from london to cambridge. that is a distance and i stopped at numerous places along the light. at no time did i see a food shortage? and no time did i see an energy shortage. i took it upon myself to speak with employees. i petrol stations from london to pembroke, shire, and in supermarkets from london to pembroke. every single employee told me that is no food shortage. is no energy shortage, cause say, what has caused some problems regarding items of foods in supermarkets
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and almost an overnight the mom's on petrol and diesel was panic by and what we have seen pizza in grayson is british mainstream major a few weeks ago. put out some cooperated story to say about britain was short of petro and diesel. and the british people, again, without thinking independent labor about forensic thinking. critically having this absolute faith in what mainstream major tells them they went out, they didn't just fill out because they filled up, jeremy, can they filled up plastic bin liners with petro and diesel and that caused a very short term shortage. but there is no energy crisis site in the united kingdom. so that leads me on to discussion. why is mainstream major
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legend? why british ministers, a legend, i believe part of the reason is to distract the british public from some very serious changes which are being imposed in british society. phase a fee. what is known as co pays 19. and i believe it is also a novel way of justifying the increase in electricity and gas by saying it has anything to do with privatization. it has everything to do with russia. so i believe that there is more so this story of an energy crisis in britain than meets the eye. you know, patrick, also when it is, i think it's dangerous for the average consumer. is that in a way this narrative give me turned in to see how see how incompetent carbon fuel is we really have to we have to make that final bowls. ok over, you know,
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to the green economy here, which of course, for the people to subscribe to that all, that might be all nice and fine. maybe they have solar panels already. but i mean there's more time and effort putting in being put into 202420342044. what about this this, this, this winter? ok, these are incompetent people. they, they think about unicorns all the time, and the rest of us pay the price for it. go ahead. yeah. so when the, when there is a spike in wholesale prices, it hurts the retail providers of energy. so it's, this is knocked out all of the smaller providers, the ones the government and ties to get into the market for years. and so you're left with the big players. and then the big players can then and complained to the government ask for what a bail out. so i wouldn't be surprised if we see that. and so this is a consolidation of markets. this is what we've seen since the beginning of the cove in 1000 crisis, globally is really
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a re consolidation of finance. so power and the concentration of financial power into fewer and fewer hands. and so if you look at the great reset directive, the book called schwab's own book, when once they want to reduce air travel, they want to make fossil fuels are no longer economically viable. they want to reduce consumption of beef and pork. now we have the pork price crisis in the u. k as well. they don't have enough average wire workers and butchers to kill all the pigs, so they need to slaughter the pigs. a cashless society. that's also an important feature. central bank, digital currencies, block chain currencies. this is now being talked about by re, she's an act the chancellor checker and the bank of england more often now is so that this is seen as a fait accompli eliminating suburban life and moving people into more concentrated city dwellings and so forth. so,
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and stakeholder capitalism putting the values of stakeholders ahead of, of profit, so fundamentally transforming their, the what, what, what the free market economy or the crony capitalist economy, whichever way you want to describe it. so all of these take all these boxes one by one. and so, and it's interesting how this overlaps this d d and the fossil fuel is ation the industrialization, energy intensive for you and sustainable development calls for 2030. this does overlap somewhat with geo politics because this also sees to keep russia out of the european market. it is funny that they're the u. s. and the britain are egging on you to keep sanctions on russia. they've been doing this for years and, and russia just became the number to oil and petroleum in puerto, into the united states. just in september, they just passed mexico only buying canada now. so, i mean, where, where is the outrage from the, from the democrats, by the ministry with outreach,
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just be like a kennedy of their planning and having the opposite effect. and certainly the law by getting comes into play here. i mean, there are some, there are many things that people want to want to tinker with and you know, when it comes to energy and i don't want them tinkering within here as well. i mean, why does the market and me know crisis is being wasted here. is it okay? everything? good. i think what we have with the supply chain or the quote energy crisis. and cobit, they're all, they all co mingle, go ahead. i think it's irrefutable pizza bucks. a great transformation is occurring in the west, principally in america, canada, australia, rates and i didn't use even though it's no coincidence that sucks and come yeah, no, none of it is good. i say it's no coincidence that they are,
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but those are the anglo saxon countries of the world. we know that when something happens in britain or america very, very quickly transformed to the rest of the world. and i believe that this transformation is very, very sinister, and in fact, i would go as far as the site, it's a very hideous transformation. the problem is fact in america and in britain, the democratic republican, conservative and labor parties are 2 sides of the same coin. they are corporate. ready policies they act in their, in their own interest and in the interest of the ordinary man as woman. and they are also emboldens in that by bad knowledge that the average person in america and in britain is more. busy interested in what is happening on that television set, then what is happening in, in their local communities, in their societies as a large and when you have distracted extent,
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when you have broken down that capacity to think for themselves. and you want a run out of time, i think my guess in london employment want to thank you for watching us here. are you next? i'm remember? ah, when i seen black america, my c panel, my soon, when i was growing, young, black american spoke to me. why destroyed it? did not. those who say black lives matter is a movement we are importing from america. know nothing of who we are. i lived in a world where wide lives mattered, and i was not wide like missing. and i wasn't known from black america. i learned how to speak back to whitefish aboriginal people here. i'm more
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