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conditions of satisfaction for operating in a green way. we have people that are committed. they have a little area where we put food scraps. it's a personal commitment, they are taking it back to somewhere it can be composted. we have special printers that all they have in them are print that's already done on one side. if you know you're doing a draft, it will be on the back of somebody. i am trying to think of the some of the other policies. the cleaning products. we talked with our landlord. we were happy to find out, they
were already committed to that and the janitorial service was already using those. >> it's a good time for questioning >> your in a historic building, does leed count toward that, you did not replace any of the windows with double glazed windows. how is energy accomplished to leed gold and 3 is did you have leed compliance with construction debris. 4 is have you done audit on how well the space is performing in reduced mechanical load? >> let's start with question one.
has to do with historic building. i see laura is here. she is formally department of environment. do you get points in leed for being in a historic building? >> well the historic building in san francisco, it's to make sure the different strategies to achieve green credits actually meet all the codes, >> you may not get specific leed credit, however, you get other benefits, you get priority permitting under our building and planning processes.
what other advantages? you get to use the historical building code. it does not talk about designation. there was a lot of talk how to incorporate historically features into sustainability programs. because as we were saying before, the biggest problem is, beverly said the codes are already there. okay question 2. was about the windows. you did not replace the windows. how does that work into your energy consumption. we did not retrofit.
how we tried to combat that was on window shades. on the reverse side that faces towards the exterior of the building is a reflective surface that keeps the solar gain out of the space. leed does award you per replacing windows. because anyone sitting close to them is freezing most the time because it's leaking all of the hot air. that's another example if we really wanted to do something like that. we would have this to work with the building owner. for beverly prior to come in here and change that, we would have had to create an equitable
benefit. >> let me talk about windows. i have opinions about windows. you really are not generally well served by replacing historic windows. that is usually in the a good strategy. even though it's a quick and easy way to gain credits. there's a whole embodied principle. they add to the historical value. it's hard to replace with same windows. if you insist on putting in double glazing. you can use the old windows. many buildings are using curtains and drapes that provide energy efficiency at night. so it's not, just the replacement of them.
we have seen them replace them again and again. modern windows don't last 100 years. >> i was going to add that one of the things that people don't necessarily think of is offices it's usually the heat load. even in cold climates, it's the heat load because of the lights. the human bodies. computer systems. printers. there's so much off loading of heat. in san francisco, we're in such a mild climate. i thought it was understanding, i wanted to underline the heat load. she wasn't talking about getting too cold. sometimes we come in on monday and generally it's about heat
in the space. >> question 3. anybody remember question 3 from bruce? >> bruce asked about construction waste. for points for construction waste. on this project, we recycled nearly 95 percent of the construction demolition waste and parts of that was our efforts is separating material and where they go. where does dry wall and wood go. the city was very helpful. they could have taken the metal, but we took it ourselves. copper is like gold these days. so that was easy. and we're convince on our next project, we could do 100 percent. >> there's a city ordinance
that demolition waste be taken to recycling facilities and then they separate it out. the city's goal is by 2020, a zero waste policy. we are in the 69 percent now. so we're headed way up 31 percent is trash. we are on a steep curve here. >> okay. >> just to add to that. part of that is thinking about the materials you put in. the insulation is recycled denim. it's much more appealing than getting rid of particle fiber.
>> toss that over here. throw that over here. >> this is insulation. you want to hug. it's so cozy. it's not like most the fiber glass. >> recycled denim. where did you get this stuff. where can you buy this stuff? >> like we said earlier, it's more common >> the project was able to divert 90 percent of the waste. so can the person that's not so engaged if green building about where to go. >> the city has a wonderful web page that actually listed materials and where they can go. so it has a pull down menu.
in addition, subset scavengers. they were able to help the documentation. >> that's part of the requirements under this construction and debris. they have to track this stuff. >> and the fourth question is how do you monitor the efficiency that you're actually gaining from these things >> to a certain extent. that's more difficult. we don't get's separate bill. the landlord, it's all part the bill that they're pay to go pg
and e. >> this has been models. we had to have mechanical engineers. one on the landlord's side and one on ours >> i think it was 15 or 20 percent >> beyond title 24. so there that has been models that were generated, but if would be good to actually see it happen >> it was a really good question. a lot of times we theoryize. >> that's right. two thing encourage. the state of california allows
for submetering. >> submetering that each tenant space can have their own meter. >> instead of dividing by floors >> bomo. building owners and managers association. we really encourage building owners to sun meter so they can hold owners accountable. you had another point. as far as really knowing how much energy the building uses, we also encourage seeing in design is reality. then make the tweaks necessary or fix the problem. >> don't touch that bike.
>> we have bicycle racks and what other features in our kitchen? >> we have the motion censors. daylighting >> motion censors are required now. when you walk in, you are triggering a light. it's not like switches. that allows the lights to go out when it senses nobody has been moving for a while. what if i fall asleep at my desk. >> these actually have sonic detection as well. if you are sitting very still, it will still pick it up >> we have sky lights. and these light fixtures are a really great sustainability story. they are old traffic lights that have been recycled.
where paper, glass and aluminum. >> compost. >> i will show i some of the office and how we operate. this is our composting is down here. all our cleaning products are green certified products. we are running out of space for our bike racks. we used to be like 3 riders. now we are 4, and 5. more and more people are riding to work. that's one of the commitments we have within our office >> somebody whispered to me that marvin johnson was recently named city and county
bike commuter of the year. we are proud to have marvin to the office. we have a dish washer when is an energy star. part of being green. we are not using paper plates or styrofoam cups much minimal paper towels. so if you look in the cabinets, we have lots of bowels and plates and regular flat wear. we run the dish washer because that's part for the environment. >> this is david green, senior electrical inspector. >> i just had a question on the flooring, i noticed linoleum is starting to come back. i just was wondering how this
relates to linoleum. we does use this in lieu of laminant >> linoleum is a linseed based >> pressed linseed. on a jute backing. it's a double whammy. >> the photo luminescent signs, we didn't have to put in electric signs. we are using the daylight to charge the photo luminescent. >> the building code allows you to use is that. there are 2 sides to it all. this is a very toxic waste. you have to deal with it in a toxic waste manner. when we recently changed from
arsenic treated woods, it's corroding, we saved something, but we have to look at the unintended consequences >> part of the learning about green was dealing with things like these exit signs. we made a field trip to the permit department and actually presented, robin had accumulated information on this and where it had been accepted. we anticipated an inspector would come in. there's definitely battles to be fought. >> you guys are pioneers.
>> when beverly and her staff were moving to this space, there were going through a branding. we took that idea and put in it in a 3 dimensional space. it's a very identifiable from any point in the office. >> we're inside the red cube. some of the green features are the wood floor we're standing on. >> what kind of wood is this? >> this is, i believe, chestnut. >> that's the great thing about using wood. it's you'll find species and different types of wood
available through fsc that aren't available any other way. >> it's real nicely laid. >> the resin panels are 95 percent recycled content. we use that as well on the reception desk. it has a bamboo surface. which is a rapidly renewable resource. >> so you work for hunts man architect url group. i have to ask beverly, you hired an architect. >> i think it's in appreciation of, that architects can appreciate the value that other
architects bring to something. we had several factors. one was that we were very busy ourselves with keeping our country clients happy and the idea of taking the time to focus on this wasn't a good use of time. tenant improvement was not our special. we talked with a number of interior oriented firms. we are very ambitious and what we're offering. we wanted to hire an interior design firm that could bring
that kind of specialness to this space. we are very are happy with what they brought to us >> did you learn anything about working with architects >> i remember when they put their proposal, they were more concerned about having a client that was an architect. we had a lot of ideas ourselves and had done a lot of the preliminary work. we haven't really shown that. may be we did a lot. but these work areas and how the project manager gathers around. we had our own ideas. i think we were probably a good client because we were able to articulate and able to collaborate. that idea of having the move
manager, the builder, designer, us all together was what facilitated us doing it so quickly. >> i really want to reenforce that you guys were a fantastic client. there was a lot of collaboration . we would develop a conceptual sketch and pass it off and it was a very collaborative process. it wasn't a hunts man vision. we had one person who we worked with the entire time corralling the entire staff philosophy. >> how did you choose this building in regards to the landlord's receptiveness?
>> we did not screen the landlords. if you do want to do a green project, might you screen which buildings you move into. what you find in san francisco, it's very infrequent that there's a whole new subdivision built and you say, i want house b, plan b on this block. here's what i'll negotiate. it's hit and miss and what comes up on the market. finding space that met our square footage requirements, very important for us to be close to public transportation. we fell in love with the high sealings. >> thank you for having us here. it's a terrific project.
there is our relationship to the planet. these regions are the wealthiest, the most powerful. that really has impacted the planet. it is almost impossible now to go anywhere and had it really be completely dark. there are very few locations that you can find. that means our relationship to the sky, there is a way where we dominate the sky. we cannot see anything really. we are blinding ourselves in a way. >> you can look at the images,
they are beautiful. when i started four years ago, there was a conversation about environmental issues that was very different. this is not being talked about in the way it is now. . this has just been like an amazing growth. i anticipate the project to be something that opens a dialogue to public interest in these ideas. so the work is really made to be seen in this environment. it's been show in museum, in gallery, but never in a public setting. and it's kind of ideal for both
myself and the works to have this real dialogue with the public not only in san francisco but people coming from all over the world. >> since the dawn of electricity, that light is something that people feel connected to and inspired by. personally, there is space to keep that alive, just finding balance. the key is to find some balance.