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as well as 953 o'farrell. that is being used as part of their car storage as well as part of the school of design. that would complipe -- comply with our notice of violation, because our notice asked them to cease and desift. the building there also houses their marketing division. when i toured that building, they had roughly a dozen staff that were in cubicles and they were the arm of the academy of art. we have received also a zoning administrator hearing. 460 townsend is almost next door to 466. 460 townsend actually houses the fine arts program.
they have requested a zoning administrate i don't remember hearing. they have asked us to reconsider our notice of violation and penalty. that will be taking place on august 5th. so we have distinguished between the buildings that were purchased earlier and the buildings that were purchased after that time period. are there new ones they are acquiring since that time? >> not to my knowledge. they could have, but we have not been made aware of buildings they have purchased since. we have been working with them on the signage. we have signage on that. we doo ask that every sign that comes down be veffed with the filing of a building permit.
there still are quite a few left to go. there are many more signs that need to go. that is one thing that is significant as well, is our progress in the signed survey. as our director also stated, at the time of the last lapped use hearing we had not received ad quailt information to proceed with the environmental review. at this time the environmental review is proceeding. we had received all the necessary environmental information as well as the transportation information that's needed to proceed. what we have now are plans to proceed. the notice to preparation mr. be taking place later on in the fall. the project projection will be preing as well.
-- will be proceeding as well. the i.m.p. has not been updated, however the information that's in the project description will be used for the updated institution after plan that will be coming out fourth. we have been assured that will form the basis of the updated institutional master plan. chair maxwell: with the use issue, is there han opportunity -- is there a place that they can, before they buy a building, can they come to you and ask if these uses are allowed in the area? >> of course they can, yes. we have our codes on line. and we have staff available to discuss what would be needed to essentially go through the process of legally establishing
the use of building zoning in the district. chair maxwell: could they get the information beforehand? could they have come in and said, we want to do this in this building on van ness. is it permitted or what do we have to do to make it right? can thre do that beforehand? >> yes, they can. anybody can see lentionly request a letter of -- anybody can essentially request a letter of determination. that is written by the zoning administrator that will pretty much tell them, the use is legal if you do x, x, x. what that does, it lays out a plan of what they have to do to establish use.
chair maxwell: is that something developers usually take advantage of? >> yes. chair maxwell: thank you. and what's your time frame when you think you will be finished with some of the issues that are still outstanding? it is hart to say, but what are you trying to go for? >> that's very hard to say. this is very complicated, because we have 37 properties. this is unfortunately, going to take quite some time. it is not something that's going to go away in six months or a year. it clearly won't. >> so they own -- this is including everything that they own there -- their office buildings and everything, the 37 properties. >> we were on the property list. if they want to inform us of that, we could inspect those as well.
chair maxwell: if they come in, is there a red flag next to their name, watch these guys? >> we don't have any such flag, but i do think that we do have some areas that their environmental consultants outline which are for potential acquisitions. but there are study areas that would encompass the possibility of purchasing a building in the area. chair maxwell: thank you. >> thank you. chair maxwell: do you have anymore presenters? >> no. chair maxwell: why don't we ask the university if they have any people here, and i have a number of questions, and i'm sure you
have some. >> good afternoon. my name is david sincotta. i'm an attorney for the academy. i was not here at your last meeting about this issue, but i have been briefed on it and have been catching up in the last six months. i talked to ms. stevens, who is not here today, i guess she wasn't able to make it, but she has been at every meeting we have had going through this process, and she's been at other meetings we've had with other specific issues since then.
i do want to say the task force has been very productive. it is a system that has worked well for the department and we have enjoyed working with them. i want to emphasize that under that system the academy has voluntarily done that process. we didn't have to wait for city attorneys or injunctions. we helped schedule the 37 items as quickly as possible. let me go back to the e.i.r. person. we think the e.i.r. materials that we've gotten everything in, as we've already said. we've already done a student survey of photographic and mode sleck as to how people get to work, get to school, get to their classes, and travel. so that survey has been done as well. i also want to address the
number of bus lines. we have reduced the number and it makes us more efficient and fewer traffic on the streets for everyone. and we're doing that in coordination with muni and the department. with the institutional master plan, we are, as i'm sure you know, the institutional mast per plan was submitted a couple years ago. it is time for it to be updated and it is updating as we are doing now. we expect to have the institutional master plan finalized is what they are trying to do now is make it consistent with some of the materials that have already been submitted with regard to the e.i.r. and it should be submitted in september.
but let me talk a little bit more about some of the code enforcement activities. i do want to point out that within weeks tillly right after inspection, the inspections came out, notice of violations were presented. within weeks we had plans submitted to the department for corrections of these things. the very first one that was talked about,at was talked about 1849 van ness, work has gone on there, which was a problem. storage of chemicals was a problem. a lot of work had to be done to make that safe and secure. that's been done. there is a 24-hour fire watch as well that goes on in that building to make sure things are going appropriately. i also want to point out that with regard to all these permits, not only are we paying for the inspections that are
undertaken, we are paying for staff time. we are paying penalties. we are paying permits. we will help out the budget here. we are trying to cooperate in anyway we can. and they noted that we -- with one notice we have agreed to vay indicate one building because -- vacate one building because of a violation and because we couldn't make it comply, we felt it was best -- there was no reason to challenge the city's determination on that so we are vacating the building. so i do want to point out in specific response to your question about new buildings, we are looking at new buildings. i'm only aware of one new
building that we are looking at and that's all i have been informed of. as with any developer we represent, we contact the department and say what can we do. re-- we review the code on our own and check with the planning department to make sure something can be done. there is nothing really -- i think the city attorney would advise you can't prevent us from buying buildings, what you can prevent us from doing, we cannot bring it into the academy's activities without the appropriate approval process. and that's where -- there may be a time we may be buying buildings in the future for our future use, but we would need other subsequent aprovals before we could bring it into the academy's operations. chair maxwell: i do have a map of potential buildings that you're interested in.
>> that's a potential area. we aren't interested in every building in those areas. chair maxwell: all right. that you're interested in. and my concern is i know just one in particular was in my area on jild avenue and someone came in and asked for a change of use. and my concern is that we have been planning in that area for a very, very long time. it seems to me that before you bought the building, you should have found out what was going on and if your use was a complement to what we were doing and then coming to me and saying, we want to build a gym out of it because this was part of our produce market. we have been planning the use and the revite lization of this produce market for years. so that concerns me.
what did you learn from the flour -- flower martha you don't decide to go in. you need to talk. and this is america and this is san francisco. we are up for selling you buildings, but it's important that you at least find out what the use is because, you know, for me, if it's up to me -- the sky would turn orange before -- the sky does turn orange, let's say the sky would turn another color before i would say ok without you coming in and doing that and that's what you have been doing over and over again. that is the concern. when do you learn and what do we have to do? we should take some real measures and you understand when kids don't seem to get the message and the teacher has to flunk them first and maybe that's what we need to do, because it's very concerning and
when i look at areas on your map here, and there is certainly -- it's central waterfront, candle stick and one that is about to adopt a plan, so there is planning going on in all of these areas and the way your history has been, you don't ask first. you just buy first and then you decide to find out what it is you can change and go in and do and that has been a problem for a lot of us in the city where we try to plan things out. so i think it's important for you to be good neighbors and to understand. i mean obviously a lot of other developers, because we have a lot of development, they seem to get it. and if you want to be successful, i think you need to change the way you do business. i don't know whether you are a part of doing it, but somebody needs to get a handle on this,
because if not, we are forced to do other things. and i am at this point where i'm more than willing to do whatever is necessary to bring you all into some kind of line with our city and what we plan to do so you can be a part of that. supervisor mar. supervisor mar: i thank you for your direct involvement and complying with the city and on the institutional master plan. the letter was sent in february and you said you were going to provide updated information, i think it's the 2008 institutional draft. there were 11,000 students. by 2012, they were anticipating 12,500 and from 2007 to 2017, to expand to 24,000 students, which is basically doubling in 10 years their population. a question was raised last time,
how many of those students are online students and how many would be living and impacting san francisco communities and infrastructure? >> i think i don't have the details of that in the master plan, but that's what it's going to be and let you know, we were already at 16,000 students and growing even faster than those projections were and that's why some of the data that's going into the new institutional master plan had to reflect that use and more. and because of that, there is even more pressure to do the online classes. supervisor mar: i'm pleased that the environmental impact review process is moving forward and also will be getting the information on the institution national master plan update hopefully soon. >> you are absolutely right that anybody going into a particular neighborhood has to know not only what the planning code says
-- is permitted in that neighborhood, because that's easy enough information to get, but what the neighborhood believes they would like to see in that neighborhood. and i would admit to you there seems to have been a history in the past where that may not have been, you know the operation of the academy. i think what's forced the academy not only the city's efforts in its code enforcement with us is it's -- its own planning efforts in forcing it to make -- think longer and harder and what they are growing to. just in the last few months, because of the planning efforts that not only we were on our own, but planning efforts from the department, we were able to streamline shuttle bus service, which improved the quality of life for all of us in the city.
chair maxwell: thank you for that. and is there a senior person in charge of your building and compliance and what your plans are? is there somebody that goes out and maybe now if they weren't before, in charge of finding and doing some of that groundwork? >> two or three people in the academy who deal with -- some deal with building operations, maintenance, some planning. the planning staff is a relatively new position in the last year and he is here today. and there is also the building maintenance and building operations and all of those people are available -- had been available at the inspections and at recent meetings with the department. chair maxwell: and do they have the ability to file for permits and kind of do what needs to be done? >> yes.
there have been a considerable number of permits already taken out. some of those permits go back. there have been some difficulties in getting the department to approve those permits because of the use issues that the department has and we are required to take names off of spaces and make sure that the permits were only for health and safety matters. and the concern of the department is by approving these permits, they don't want us to have the impression they will approve the use of this building as part of the academy in the future and their present use of building this up to code, does not preclude them from denying use in the future. i want to make one other point. there are very mineor violations on -- minor violations on virtually all the -- electrical and plumbing.
i would defy any building in this city to find -- they wouldn't find one thing wrong. some of these buildings do have violations and those are actually easily realm yee -- remedied. chair maxwell: the fact that we had to get to this point, that's where we are now. i have been working with you all a long time, years and years and years and we have gone over this for a very long time and finally we are making some progress and i think that's a good thing for all of us involved. you know, just another question, recently there has been a lot of talk about, you know, nationally about private institutions and the money that they receive per student. do you know -- is there somebody here who can talk a little bit
about that issue? about federal grants and just a concern about how for-profit -- i guess regarding the amount and percentage of total revenue that private, for-profit colleges, such as your institution derive from federally guaranteed loans and how much federal funding -- did your academy receive over the years? >> i'm dealing with the physical uses. but i don't think we have someone here who can answer that today. let me just check. if not, we can make sure -- >> i can send you other questions because in our next one, they would be able to do that. >> apparently this is a question that has come up recently and we are preparing materials for the
city on that but we don't have that person. chair maxwell: who is here? >> paul is here in charge of planning. we have a woman i just spoke with who is in charge of housing. she is not an employee of the academy. but the housing operation is a separate function, which if contracted out she handles that. chair maxwell: colleagues, do you have any -- from planning. and i'm assuming you mean they are doing planning for the institution? >> yes. chair maxwell: i asked earlier about some of your -- what you're looking at throughout the city some purchases you might be looking at, long-term, short-term, i just want to know your goal. and i know the institutional
master plan is coming out. but it seems like you might be going forward even before that. so i wanted to know kind of what your goals are right now. >> the academy -- the academy is looking for new areas of growth and especially during the planning process with the environmental document and we realize the value to look at the future. that's what the purpose of the study is, the potential area we may want to go. there may not be a building we have identified but the potential areas and determine the potential impacts and have a discussion with the city itself. no specific building we are looking at right now, but we are being more open with the city and looking at projected growth areas. chair maxwell: what are you looking for? >> looking at buildings, our
academic uses that will fit projected growth for our employees, storage for maybe academic storage facility that we need, just ways to accommodate all of our future growth in our departments and our employees and our staff. and we are looking at buildings in terms do we have studio design, buildings that may -- we may need for employees. we aren't looking at one type of building but multiple different types because of the different uses, from studios to lecture halls, to employees. not one cookie cutter type of building that we may need in the future or tomorrow. chair maxwell: is there anybody that's in charge of when you look at a building, ge gaffic area and you find a building in, is there somebody that's in charge of going in that
neighborhood or area to find out what's going on and what the potential growth is or what the plans -- if it's a planning area? >> when we're looking at these projections, we have our needs. so i might get a call from the president saying we are looking at these potential buildings or someone called me up for -- about this building. i would call up our attorney. and if it's allowable use, do we need permits. since i have been on board, we want to look at the process and requirements and making sure that we do go after the building, it is outlined when we update it. we may contact our facilities department to say, what's it going to convert this building to meet the needs of staff? do they have room to put extra
printers or a building that has high ceiling. if fits drk it fits that type of use, when we go to the planning department, we ask them is this type of use allowed. chair maxwell: and how long have you been with the academy? >> two years now. chair maxwell: i haven't -- you haven't said that you go to the neighborhood or the community and i think that's part of what we have been missing and i'm trying to find that out if you have learned anything from the flower martha you need to talk with -- flower mart. and they will tell you that you need to have a dialogue with communities. >> for instance, one good example is that we had received a number of calls to looge at
the bridge motel on lombard. so we had an internal meeting that was open to all the neighborhood leaders where the police department attended as well as the neighborhood and the staff. we talked about potential use of that building. it was a good meeting because the meeting was in support of a potential acquisition of that. so we are reaching out and asking people, too. may need to do a better work in advertising, but we do talk to our neighbors. chair maxwell: supervisor mar. supervisor mar: there are different community projects that you support and rebecca is here that have worked on a number of community projects. but thanks again for improving the communications between the
different departments of the city. i did find a transportation study from 2009 and was able to look at the expansion plans of doubling the student population. and it looks like for onsite students, those who are in san francisco, the transportation report says about 9,200 students on site and 4,150 students online. i think that's about 2/3 on site, 1/3 online and about 1,578 in dorms or housing that's provided by academy art university. i think those dorms are one of the institutional housing questions that came up in the last hearing. but looks to me the expansion plan include about 500 to 600 new onsite students per year. so 2008 to 2012, the population is growing from 9,000 o