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replace the lostsome of these se rejected for various reasons. my fear now is that if we keep limiting some of these proposals, we will end up with nothing. it is going to be a nightmare. it seemed like most of the opposition is for the triangle lots. i am looking at it a little differently. i took aside the residents, and i think there is an opportunity to improve that area. there were large trees on it, but they are now destroyed. [chime] i think there is a possibility to actually improve this space and not look at it as having
this parking lot across the street. president buell: thank you. >> i don't believe there has been any compromise. the only reason they cannot pursue the ankle parking on baker street is because it did not fit and it did not measure it. once they found out it didn't fit, i don't consider that a compromise. if you vote not to approve the triangular parking lot, i don't understand why. the residence unanimously came to you here and are asking you not to approve it. they are the ones that live there. it seems like it is the government against the residents now. i don't know why you would enter the residence. it will turn out to be 18 spots. he will ask about the -- you
will ask him about the ada. i have been sued under the ada. i am sure you will not take my opinion for it, but i think every parking spot requires its own successful lot that will take up spaces. i don't understand why you want to enter the residence for 18 spots. you have to build a retaining wall. it seems like an awful waste of time and money to anger some many residents. -- anger so many residents. >> here are the signatures for 90% of baker. over 70%-a 80%, they are
documented by who owns the building. what is disturbing me is that they have never told you guys that there is the lawsuit by the engineers' union on this project. it might be six, eight, 10 years. we have a problem here. what disturbs me the most is the fact that for two years, there were secretive, clandestine meetings without the public involvement. they come to us in six weeks beforehand and tell us this is what we are going to do. the eir, they were supposed to mitigate this with shuttle parking from the main parade ground.
there is still another lot out there. they are still refusing. and they are holding this city hostage once again to issues that impact us. there is another section that i have known for 10 years and want to change the parking over at chestnut and lion. take the bus restrictions off. if you vote on this, your being part of that bigger story. i really think you should continue in even past the first of the year because there is a lot of information that is coming out momentarily. did you know the planning department has not passed this on environmental? i bet you did not know that. there are lots of things you are being told that i think you should continue this until after the first of the year.
we are willing to take the brunt. i don't understand why you are determined to do this. i heard about this lot being taken to a parking lot over 12 years ago. the next thing we know, they want the trees torn down. this was and still is possibly a spotted owl nesting ground. there are redwoods. can you cut down redwoods? i am not really sure according to the law. i think you are making a decision based on political pressure and i think you should take your time on all of this. what was not told to you was the most of the voters were not notified. [chime] one second. and only 3 people showed up to
the meeting. all free pointed out parties and staging. president buell: thank you. >> we have some folks outside that have been called to speak but we cannot have them come in. if you have spoken, let me ask you to step outside to we can allow them to come in, please. thank you. is there additional public comment on this item? >> right now there is an international meeting concerning global warming. we hear you talking about providing more parking, more parking, more parking. we have yet to implement this policy.
this commission has not made any mention of public transit. sadly, not even the residents have mentioned transit. they recommend that we drive around until we find parking. what does that do to our air? rich or poor, we are all going to go down together. here and there and in the park, this will be wreck-reation. i wish you would consider those things. it is devastating considering what we are headed for. thank you.
>> yvonne. hashim is here also. if you could come forward, please. you have two minutes. >> have done have a prepared speech. -- i do not have a prepared speech. i have three young children and i feel that this project -- we have a space across the street that has been ignored, abandoned. we have planted seeds and tried to create a really pretty spot. we don't need more traffic. i have kids i need to watch out for. i just feel that it is yet
another thing we have to deal with. with the opening of the fine arts improvement that looks wonderful, i think it is great. i think the traffic is going to come through and it is going to stop right there. we will have all of these cars, and i am very concerned and i am very upset. i feel like we are being ignored. it will decrease the property value. i just feel that i am very much against it and i would like you to know that. president buell: thank you very much. >> hashim. >> hello. i manage our high-school program. we higher high-school age kids on the museum floor when we are
open. i am a product of the high- school is better program, and i still work there today. the impact that this will have, many of the public that we work with are moving because of accessibility. it is really hard for them to get to the exploratorium. it will impact us in the afternoons. not to mention other counties. the only way they can get to us is by car. we have a large capacity of people that come on their own. in some sense, this will be really difficult for the families that come here with their kids and the individuals that come from out of town. we definitely need support for the parking because it will be
hard for our attendance and many of our staff. i drop off my kids at a preschool and i drive to the exploratorium. we definitely appreciate your support in this and it will help us with our commitment to reach out to the community and work with them. >> is there anyone else that like to speak on this? if so, come forward. >> i do not have a prepared statement. first of all, i have copies of the male -- emails. has everything been answered? i don't believe it has. i don't believe all of the things have been answered other than that.
>> the answer to that question is yes. >> that everything in these pages has been answered? including confirmation that you don't need ada parking spaces. i think you do. from what i understand. i live on the corner of bay and lion. we get every tour bus, every cable car with amplification talking about our home because they go and they come. it will take away the parks that the neighbors have worked on and was nobody taking responsibility?
we believe we deserve to keep 18 spaces. we just heard from an employee that parts that the space. the exploratorium is a rent- paying private organization. they list public transportation that people can take. can they be transferred first? president buell: thank you. >> i just had an opportunity to review the background material on this, and i did not see any reference to ceqa or environmental review. if there has been an environmental review, that should be before you as a decision maker. if there has not been
environmental review, i don't think you should take action on it today. i would associate myself with the residents that have asked for a delay of this item if those concerns cannot be addressed today. >> is there any additional public comment? please come forward. >> i am the facilities director at the exploratorium. i want to reiterate a couple of things that my co-workers have already said. part of my job is dealing with the traffic and parking issues that come up with our organization. i have been with the department for 11 years. although we would love for everyone to be able to take public transit, it is not really feasible for everyone right now.
and part of the opportunity we have to have a better public transportation. until that time, we need parking for our visitors. we are losing 258 spaces. we feel like every space is a precious right now. especially as it relates to our mission and our ability to operate. every visitor that decides not to come, that is money that we lose, and we feel like we will be in danger. the other item i wanted to mention is that we did give the -- up. we feel like we are trying to
take the neighbors into consideration. we are trying to her hair what they are saying and we just feel that this one last piece is something that will be more important to the palace theater than to us because of the entrance. it is something that will benefit of residents. -- both residents. >> is there anyone else that would like to speak on this item? public comment is closed on item number 10. president buell: i have a couple of questions that i would like to ask. is the representative still here? maybe we will ask the staff.
can i ask questions on the project? how many meetings were held in the neighborhood? and how long ago did that process start? >> we have held five-six meetings. we met with the neighborhood organizations. we met with the neighborhood associations. president buell: how long ago did the process start? >> a couple of months ago. president buell: that's fine. that's ok. i'm asking generally.
it sounds consistent with what i have heard from the neighbors. from a timing standpoint, how much latitude do we have to approve or wait on this matter? >> is essential that the project moves forward. there is time that is needed to implement what we are talking about today. it has to be fully designed and implemented. the parking lot goes offline in about six weeks. president buell: do we have the rep has of the -- representative of the exploratorium? any vehicles that come from your side, do you employ any
transportation systems to bring large groups to and from? >> jennifer is our facilities operations person. the field trip program is administered or you have to make a reservation. they call, a reserve a space, and of those charter buses or school buses are scheduled. the demand is managed that way. president buell: do they work for you? >> both. sorry, i misunderstood you. there are the yellow buses owned by the school districts, and many districts now charter them. we don't own the buses. president buell: they have had,
in the past, had to put a transportation management plan together to get people out of there? it is the visitor's option on doing that? >> it depends. there are days when it is no problem. when there is demand, we wrote off areas for buses. they flow students and kids to and from the building. there is an active parking management on a daily basis. >> because we have so many people here, i will make a suggestion if i can make it fly. i would propose that for that portion of the project that is the 18 or 20 spaces, that we put that over and allow more time to
get more information on that, and the remainder of the spaces, we move forward and prove that today. if that meets with my fellow commissioners, then i have a motion to that effect and a second. all in favor? thank you very much. we are going to take a 10-minute break -- a 15-minute break. [laughter] we will call it a 10-minute break, the back in 15 minutes. we will take up the golden gate park gardens.
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