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be a complete and full investigation, not only with what happened with the police department and with the sheriff's department and we need to make an investment going forward and having as much accountability and i think the investment in the body cameras it's a good investment but it's not going to be a panacea. law enforcement has a lot to do with it. and as far as the cameras, the same should apply in our jail system as well and that investment should also be made there. i look forward to the discussion, look forward to hearing from the agencies and from the public. thank you, supervisor mar, for putting this on the agenda. >> supervisor christensen >> i think we are very fortunate to have
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an exemplary staff from the central station. they have done a great job. we are a very diverse community with many non-english speaking residents. we need to look at what is not working well and what is working well and we have the opportunity to engage with the community, with the schools, seniors, their integration with the community has gone a long way on the north east part of the city to actually feel the police force is a resource rather than a threat to them. i'm grateful for the leadership that our police captains have shown in that way. i think while that may not be the case, i want to say how grateful i am. one thing
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about being a supervisor, you get texted about things that happen in the district. being a supervisor for the last 5 months i get text about brutality and how much this is very exposed to. certainly viewing our police force as a resource and a place of safety is what we aim for and any efforts on that as far as the police and the public it's welcome. >> thank you very much, supervisor. let's go to public comment. i have asked people to keep it as short as possible. we have our san francisco public defender jeff dochey and jackie wilson is with us as well,
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public defender. >> thank you very much for continuing this hearing. the challenge i think to us as both city officials department heads is to not only look as policing but the entire justice system. i wish i can say it begins with the police department but it's not. it's endemic. i have been a public defender for 29 years and i have seen this since the day i started. i can tell you the issue of race has been one that is plagued, the criminal justice system the juvenile justice system has been around for years. the disparity is not new. they have existed as long as i have been around. they exist not only because of the way in which we
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police, arrest and detain people, but also the way that a criminal justice system functions. we've had to take a hard look at our work as public defenders and ask how do unconscious biases, implicit biases affect the way in which we do our work. obviously prosecutors and judges are not immune. there are so many judgment points in the system where individuals, agencies and institutions make decisions on a daily basis. sometimes even hundreds a day where race bias does infect our decision making to the point that for most part we aren't aware of them. for most of us here, everyone doesn't wake up to race biases and people of color but you can look at the impact of what
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has happened in our city. it doesn't take much of a leap to reach a conclusion to see that something is very wrong. the initiative for 21st century policing in the united states was put forward by the white house. the attempt today will be to look at where we are in san francisco. i have been invited and plan to attend the first white house briefing on 21st century policing on july 1st and july 2nd. it will be a 1 day a briefing where they will be talking about these issues and important reforms. we'll be gathering at the white house with police, prosecutors, probation officers and defense attorneys and policy makers to talk about how we can address this as a nation. i think it's very forward thinking that in san francisco we've been taking these steps early on. albeit in response to a number of
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crisis that has gripped our city. but these are problems i believe can be addressed. >> the reason the committee at the public defenders office was formed to look at these issues. it is a collective approach within our office and it's not an exclusive one. we made it very clear from day one and that we are interested in looking at systemic reform and are open to working with whoever is interested in making these reforms happen. i do have a powerpoint presentation that i will direct you to and this comes from the ten point proposal that was recently developed by the racial and justice committee as a starting point to begin collecting points that the city should begin. this is
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not an exclusive list nor a complete one, but 92 nearly a starting place. going to the first slide, what it is, it's a proposal. because there is some confusion that it's my plan or only coming from public defenders. we tried to meet with community leaders, the leadership of black lives matters, various agency to talk about what kind of reforms we might be able to focus on, practical reforms. this is a proposal to improve the criminal justice system overall. look at it as a general guide as you would coming to a new city or country. looking at the improvements that we can make. we are focusing on best evidence based practices from around the country. what it's not is an attempt to create any kind of binding legislation or to tell the police department or chief suhr hoss to do their jobs. i think
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what's more important here is that we come collectively together and look at how we can address these issues. so it would be a mistake to think if we address the issue of texts that somehow racism would disappear. that occurrence is a manifestation and not the core and root cause. >> mr. darchi, you have a minute to go. >> okay looking at the first slide, the first recommendation is 24 hours of implicit training for officers. sfpd has already offered some officer bias training and that's good. we support any request made by the police department for additional training. we do think there is value in having a set number of hours. monthly reviews of field training officers for any racial bias,
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excessive force or unlawful search and seizure or filing a false report. already in compliance with this. assign patrol duty in black and brown communities to officers who less invasive in those communities and develop financial incentives to encourage officers to live in the communities they police. they have individual officers preferences. body cameras are being funded through the mayor's task force. we had to fight to be on the committee. we are on the committee. those policy recommendations will be forthcoming. >> officer involved shootings, clearly now there is an investigation done by the district attorney. we believe there should be an independent investigation. there has been no movement there. however, there is bill in sacramento is
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sb 227 that would eliminate grand jury in officer shootings. these are laws kept by the police department which documents each instance where an officer draws and discharges a weapon regardless of an injury. this is clearly being done. so it is a recommendation that's being followed. however the logs are not made available to the public. we believe they should on a quarterly bases. we believe that officers should not arrest or detain children in a school unless there is a threat of danger. there is now a policy of memorandum of understanding between the sfpd and the san francisco unified school district. mental health is a big issue. we are urging sfpd to provide crisis intervention. ms. johnson is here from the mental health unit but we have others who provide mental
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health training at the academy, but it's not mandatory. the idea of providing quarterly statistics as you know provided by malia cohen, and we support that initiative. the final recommendation was to have a youth on the police commission that would require a charter change but we believe it's something we should put forward to. there is a comprehensive report that was developed by the edward burns institute that is a report that reentry council which is an official body of the board of supervisors will be releasing i believe next week. it's a comprehensive study that not only looks at policing but also all components of the criminal justice system. my hope is out of this hearing that we have a continuing body or an initiative where we can continue these reforms. thank you. >> thank you, mr. darchi. is
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jackie wilson from your office, deputy public defender here? >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is jock wilson. i want to thank you for allowing me to come here today to continue this conversation. i love this city and work in this city. coming across the bridge i saw something that said armenian genocide and i
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walk around and i see how lucky i am to work in this wonderful city. and the sign that says remember and demand. the reason that's important because as an african american public defender in this city since 2002 and the numbers we talk about, the remember and demand. the remember part, as supervisor mar alluded. 56% african american, and 56% of the jail population are african american and 54% are african american and 62% of the youth that are arrested are african american. we must remember that. we could not forget that. when we talk about the demanding part, that is in a we need to demand and we are here to demand justice. in regard to data collection, we are here to
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demand justice in regard to texting scandal and all the other scandal that have rocked the criminal justice system in san francisco. if we don't get to the root cause of these issues, these cultures that have been allowed to permeate will continue. that's why when they wrote the report on racial profiling and wrote the report about the incarceration of black men in san francisco, this has not been addressed. we are asking that you do that. the reason that it's so important is that 100 years from now, in 2115, when your great grandchildren are driving across that bay bridge. what will the sign say? will it say black genocide or
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will it say black lives matter. we took that issue back. >> the -- thank you for being here deputy chief alley. thank you for having me here. my name is ally, chief deputy assigned to this bureau. i know my time is brief so i will touch upon the areas i have been asked to address. i would like to apologize for chief suhr who was supposed to be here but in light of the issues that resulted in south carolina, he was dealing with issues that may develop. he would have loved to
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have been here but he's needed elsewhere. >> to talk about the investigation. the investigation is over. nine officers were ordered to appear on the matter and asked to court to stay all proceedings of the court. the superior court granted that stay. there is a hearing this monday to determine whether or not the superior court has jurisdiction over the 9 cases. we are more than happy to return to provide further updates on the status of the court proceedings in closed session under the pending litigation exception to the extend that any issues are considered personal matters, we are required to comply with confidentiality requirements. i want to also give an update on the issue of implicit bias awareness. we all as human beings have a
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level of implicit bias. the department has attacked this issue. most recent ly, the captain and above received training from an internationally renown expert on the issue and subject of implicit bias awareness. that training we found to be a presentation of emerging research in newer science and it revealed how unconscious processes may affect thinking. members of the command staff who attended that training which was science base and data driven found to be enlightening and thought provoking. the chief wants where the
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head goes the body follows relative to biases and making sure they do not play a role on day-to-day situations they engage in. that training also was very expensive as presented. it would be definitely a hindrance to provide that. we are looking at issuing a request to proposals to tap into local resources in san francisco and the bay area of experts who are in the field of bringing awareness to implicit bias and incorporating that further into our training. lastly on the issue of data collection, the department has for years collected data relative to traffic stops,
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traffic enforcement stops. the budget that is before the entire board provides for technology that would allow for the capturing of realtime demographic data and actions taken by the officers byway of the smartphones that have been a part of our tool kit. this in fact would allow for realtime reporting realtime capturing of that data so that would apply to all stops, pedestrian stops. it would also apply to field and interview card information that is done by hand at this point, by officers who fill out a form and later enter into a data base. so the idea is to bring all those things together on one platform allowing for the immediate capturing of that data as well as the reporting. as we move into potential questions, i
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just want to add on one thing. when the president issued the report on 21st century policing, one of the main things that i captured from it was developing a guardian ship mind-set within law enforcement across the country. that guardian ship has been around for many years around the chief's administration particularly making sure that every officer is engaged in the community and that we recognize the future and that is our young people. that we have a stake in the centers that are a safe haven and areas that are disproportionate impacts of violence particularly in communities of color where we have officers at boys and girls club, where we have officers at different centers that provide exclusive services to young
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folks. that we continue to engage the community in every aspect at district levels, at the larger level here, but to continue this mind-set that we are guardians of the city and we have a responsibility to protect it and address issues as they come forward. on that note, if you have any questions, i would love to answer them. >> i did want to start off, i did ask chief suhr at the last hearing from testimony from young activist from black lives matter and alliance groups that have formed after the tremendous upsurge in killings of not just african american about the latino and other people of color. there is a push back on the assumption that there is just a few bad apples that commit the racist texting and many of us feel that it's a deeply embedded cultural
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problem within the police department that need to be addressed in a systemic way. mr. wilson mentioned whether it's youth of color and other groups within our communities. i will just ask you, do you think it's a cultural problem and systemic problem within our department in san francisco? >> i do not. and even -- >> please continue. >> i do not. and thoroughly with what direction the chief has taken, there is not a single recommendation to the policemen of removing those officers engage nd this conduct. that in and of itself sends a message to the community and the officers involved that that type of conduct has no place in this department. secondarily, the efforts that are taking place in a very
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expeditious manner to ensure that we are in tune with the needs of the community by way of making certain that the biases that are in innately human are addressed and not carried forth in any type of decision making process. our level of engagement, there is a recognition that communities of color in the city, we've seen the disproportionate impact of homicides in particular. in the last five 5 years we have seen a 50% reduction in homicides. i think that is in large part because of the level of community engagement that's taking place. because of the manner in which we support the communities efforts to create safe havens for young people. because of the relationship that we put as a
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priority the employment of youth through our internship programs. 90% of the youth that we employ through our internship programs are youth of color. 60% of those individuals are african american. so it's about build a relationship, it's about supporting the community and addressing the perception which i believe is not a reality. >> deputy chief, i don't want to downplay the programs for that you are doing that are good, but i know the youth commission to one of the ten 10 points of the racial committee and public defenders office has been about youth engagement and i know the police commission, when angela chen was on there had a number of sessions with experts on youth and police relations. why hasn't there been any trainings done on youth engagement and
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dees escalation of police encounters especially with the recommendations that have come from the department? >> i think our general order is relative to arresting parents of youth, address those very issues. it talks about when we are arresting the parents of the youth, the procedures and the things that officers should beware. those are the part of trainings taking place. the extent of general arresting and dealing with juveniles was a collaboration of people in the community that has been in place and is the driving force on how we engage. the training that is referencing is actually not only in place, but supporting policy that hopes to minimize any negative impact that you know the arrest of a loved one will have on a young person.
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minimize the arrest of a young person brought into the criminal justice system. >> thank you, i think there is probably a different interpretation from the youth commission on what the police department is doing and what the communities are urging and demanding. i wanted to ask supervisor campos wanted to follow up because his name was on the roster. >> thank you. i have a lot of respect for chief suhr. i'm grateful to him that he is talking to community right now about what happened in charleston which is just sickening to see that something like that could happen in this country. and i have a lot of respect for so many police officers who try to do what is a very difficult job to try to do the best job they can and i'm very grateful for that. but i do have some specific questions.
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first of all on the issue of training around youth, we were actually, we played a role, my office played a roll in the meeting of the youth commission and police commission a number of years ago and there was a specific request to do training specifically on the interaction between youth and police. and to my knowledge, that training has not been put together at the police department. if i'm mistaken by saying that, then i would apologize, but i would give you the opportunity to give us the specifics of that training, but to my knowledge, that has not been put in place in the police department. i also want to note that at that point when the hearing happened there
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was a national expert that the police commission asked to do the training that individual was doing the training for boston. we in my office did not want money to be a reason not to do the training and we actually found a foundation that was willing to pay for the training and we presented that proposal to the san francisco police department, and the police department said no, we are not interested. so i ask once again if there is evidence to the contrary that this training has happened? i'm happy to stand corrected, but to my knowledge that is not the case. the other thing that i would say and so do you have first of all before i move from that point, is there evidence to say that in fact the training has taken place? >> i'm actually vaguely familiar with the experts involved in. as you know i have been in this business for
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3 weeks now. i will have to look into it further specific to that issue. now, relative to other issues, we've had other trainings to support, collaboratively develop policies dealing with youth in our city. but specifically to the boston efforts i would have to get back on that. >> please do. i don't think it's happened otherwise we would have that information today. the second point is i do want to thank you for moving forward on the issue of implicit biased training and i'm glad the command staff is getting that. how much would it be if we wanted to do that for every police officer. do you have a sense of how much that would be? >> i don't. but i can tell you the training we received cost us in the realm of $5,000 for half a day period. so that would be incredibly
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cost prohibitive relative to the entire police department. we are talking about accommodations, travel, anything to support this person coming to our city and providing the training. we believe we have the expertise in san francisco or the immediate area that we can tap into that will be as effective and less costly. >> well, i would encourage the police department to look into that and have an estimate and i will tell you where i think the chief and i have had a different perspective is that there is i think a general sense which i think is the reason why the police department did not accept the training proposal that we put forward even though we found the money to pay for it. i think there is a sense that we don't need an outsider to come and teach san francisco how to do something like this. i understand that