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it's just -- it's horrible. it's horrible. commission commissioner fong. >>commissioner fong: would you remind us in this condition, six of us, a tee would be a denial or a -- >>vice president richards: a t tie would be a denial. >>commissioner fong: all right. so i'm going to make a motion to continue, and i'm just making comment. it's pretty close. you know, this is, i think has, i think the makings of a good project coming back with some agreements, coming back with more work and time on the community, especially with the mural and artists package program, i think is important, so i'll make a motion to continue this item. >> secretary. >>vice president richards: to which date? >> clerk: to what date? i would recommend january , at this point. >> clerk: january 25th.
>> supervisor: second. >> commissioners, since we have time -- not that we want to sit and debate the design, since commissioner richards has provided a dissenting voice on the facade, but it sounds like a majority of the commission is okay with the facade as is, i will weigh in from the urban design teams perspective, we did find the facade was a good way of knitting the building with the existing elements. it would help to provide a strong reelthshlationship to we existing relationship is, so it was a nice meld of new and old. >>vice president richards: i agree on the intent. it's just the result, so was there talk of a set back of even 3 feet or 5 feet? >> i don't think there was talk of a set back. because of its location on the
corner, we felt strongly that the massing needed to anchor the corner, so maybe we could work with the architect to find a detail to find more reveal on the facade, and i'm sure knowing the architect, it's something he can potentially find and explore. >>vice president richards: i support that. commissioner moore. >>commissioner moore: i just wanted to commend the commissioners on continuing. the project has set off to terms that indeed sound very much in complement to our own objectives, however there was apparently not enough time to formalize them in a manner that is nothing that we're opposing but that's indeed an agreement between the parties involved here. on the facade, i think it's a good challenge. i would not put them on the bottom as much as i would put them on the top because the
building is rather large, it looks somewhat lengthy, and that's where my questions about the upper part come in, so perhaps we have a little bit more time to discuss this with the architect at some other time. >>vice president richards: thank you. there's a motion to continue in the second. >> clerk: very good, then, commissioners on the motion togs continue to january -- motion to continue to january 25th. [ roll call. ] >> clerk: so moved, commissioners. that motion passes with commissioner johnson voting against. commissioners, that's place us on item 19, 2014-0376 cu 1526
wallace avenue. >> i'd like to make a quick introduction of the staff members who's going to be presenting number 18. matthew chandler retired as a current planner with the flex team. he has experience in the commercial construction industry and city planning. he's worked with preservation and city planning in the midwest and join is us most recently from st. lewis, missouri. he holds a bachelor's degree in planning from missouri state university, and we welcome him to staff. >> supervisor: welcome, matthew. >> yes. thank you for the introduction, marcel. the case before you is a request for conditional use authorization to process and sell small livestock at 1526 wallace avenue, a parcel within the production, distribution, and repair zoning district.
this was processed as a cb 3 p or community business priority processing program application. livestock processing one, which is defined in the planning code as an industrial use that involves the life storage killing or dressing of poultry rabbits or other small livestock and/or the tanning or curing of raw hides or skins from an animal of any size. this use allows direct sales to customers and requires a conditional use authorization in this zoning district. the simple reason why we're here today. saba life poultry has been in business for five decades. this use is subject to the locations and operation restrictions of section 202.2 b of the planning code requiring the operation within a completely enclosed building
with no openings other than fixed windows or exits required by law if within 50 feet of a residential district. the operation will be wholly conducted within a hard she enclosure whi enclosure, and the subject site is surrounded completely by other industrial uses and pdr zoned parcels. saba live poultry plans to establish a second location in the bay area. the facility will process on-site and sell directly to the consumer. this style of butchering will provide a service which the san francisco city and county currently lacks. at this time those who are limited to or wish to purchase halal products must travel outside of sprask. i have completed copies of the required categorical exemption as well as public comments that were received after the commission packet was prepared.
there are also copies up here for the public, as well. the department has found the project to be on balance, consistent with the general plan, and necessary and desirable and recommends approval. this -- that concludes my presentation. i am available for questions. the sponsor team has a presentation to follow with additional details. thank you. >> so jonas, could i hand over speaking cards for the
supporters who are still here, and these are for the 16 who had to leave since things went a little bit longer. maybe i should move over here. so good evening, commissioners. dan franton with reuben, ginous and rose for saba live. we're here asking for the permission to grant a cu for the saba processing facility. as you heard, this will be the only facility of its kind in san francisco, although saba does have a long record of operating eight facilities in new york, as well as in the fruitvale district in oakland. halal generally refers to what's in islam general practices and then slaughtered according to the specific
practices. a brief prayer said before the animal's throat is cut. its blood is drained, and as in every slaughter house, there's an inspector present to make sure that's everything that's done is high generalygienic. many cultures want to see the conditions that their animals live in and are processed in, and it's an important part of their food culture and their religious practices. these are some of saba's new york facilities. so you can see that they're often in locations that are -- that are not industrial. they're residential uses. these are not industrial scale production facilities, they're -- they're really small scale facilities that are comparab compatible with mixed use neighborhoods.
customers at their oakland facility tend to be east asian, muslims and latinos, mainly, and then, they serve some is restaurants. saba's decision to -- let me just...saba's decision to locate in the bayview was driven by a couple of things. one is desiring to be close to their customer base. they're just a couple blocks off the t-3rd railway line, and i think these conditions are setup to regulate much larger facilities than what saba proposes here. as know, less than 5% of san francisco is zoned for industrial use, and that figure's been getting progressively lower over time. livestock processing is allowed
only in a subset of those districts so there are really very few places for this business to go. the pdr is intended to facilitate some heavy pdr traffic. it's 24 hour trucking, relatively noising operations. there are a lot of auto body shops, a lot of very active trucking facilities around here. saba's use is going to be much -- much less intensive than what's -- than what's going on around it. you can see some pallet facilities, a lot of auto body shops. actually one of those is where saba's facility will be moving into. saba's use here, it's a 2100 square foot facility.
it'll be completely enclosed. they anticipate storing about 500 birds on-site on a typical day to support daily sales of about 200 to 400 birds, which sounded like a lot to me when i first heard and then i went over to see their facility in fruitvale, and it's really a room with a few cages of chickens in it. it's not really a large operation. of course, there will be some peak times with more birds, but this is just the general day today. trucking to and from the city will be -- or to and from the facility will be really typical for a small industrial use probably less than many of the other businesses around with one to two trucks a day. although san francisco only allows livestock processing in a few industrial districts, they're allowed a lot more widely in -- in other cities, including in oakland, where you
can see there's a residential building right next door. i was there, again, this morning. you don't smell any odors off-site. it's actually a pretty quiet facility. i guess i'm out of time for the moment, but there are a few other speakers here who i'm sure would like to make a few more points, and i'm available for questions. >> supervisor: thank you, so i'm going to take public comment. i'm going to read some names, and you please lineup against this wall. ina dang, marry beth alonzo, nadine may. >> if your name's been called, feel free to approach the dais. >> hi, commissioners.
my name is nadine may. i'm a san francisco native, and the first thing i want to point out is i have a button on my purse that says, actually, keep our muslim neighbors safe. my t-shirt says no muslim ban ever, so i don't think anyone can accuse me of islamophobe i can't, n can't -- islamophobe. the last slaughter house was closed before the earthquake, and the one before that was 1971. i feel that it's not appropriate to have a slaughter house here. i think san francisco's been vanguard, i think we've always been, and i'd like to see the city move forward on an issue that impacts not only animals, health, welfare, and the environment.
everybody knows that -- well, maybe you don't know, but meat and dairy industry is the number one contributor to global warming, number one. it's incredibly did estructive habitat. we don't want it around. i simply don't want san francisco to go in that direction, and one other thing i wanted to point out is would this slaughter house have been proposed in an area like the richmond district where i live, even if it were zoned for that, or st. francis wood or pacific heights, no, it's in the bayview, which is as we know, a poor, struggling area that i know fairly well 'cause i have friends there. and i think this is a question of the environmental injustice. i just don't think it's fair the bayview has fought very
hard to have a healthier environment, and i don't think this is going to contribute to it. i am a vegan, but i don't like in a bubble, and i'm very concerned about conditions of animal welfare, conditions of slaughter. i know that they would be able -- the slaughter house would be able to sell animals to the public, so while their facility says that they would be killed in a halal method, in a humane method, what happens when they sell to the public? there's no guarantee at all that those animals will be killed in a halal manner, and last, but not least, jobs. everybody mentioned jobs, everybody wants local jobs, which is great, slaughter house jobs are awful. they're mostly all across the country done by undocumented
individuals, and there's a reason for that people people do not want to do that. thank you. >> thank you, ma'am your time is up. >> thank you, commissioners. my wife name is ina day, and me and i are raising three chirnz, and we run a doggie house at 223 shafter in the bayview. we are embedded in the community. we care about the community. the bayview has historically been a dumping ground for toxins. 30% of all toxins of san francisco have been placed in the bayview. i am native san francisco. my fathered fished in the waters avenue of bayview in the yosemite. when you bring a business such
as a slaughter house, and we know that there are toxins in chicken poop dust, where the feathers are going to go, i ask you to take a pause and do an environmental impact study before you place this into the bayview. there are zoning for this, but there are 37,000 of us that live there, and it's also a socially economically challenged community, and we don't need to increase the staff that show that our asthma rates are four times higher than the rest of the city, and so are cardio problems, so please tell us where the exhaust is going into our system, what is being done with the poop, what is being done with the blood. personally, at my doggie daycare, the facility was run at as a meat packaging company from 1992 to 2012 before it was sold to my predecessor. we tried to find the source of
a stench. we were told by the president sever that it was urine. it turns out it's blood in the water system below us, and we're spending thousands of dollars to dredge that out that was in the system from 1992 to 2012, so i ask you please think about the community as you move forward with this. please stop the cycle of environmental racism and impact on those who are in the lower socioeconomic realm. thank you. >> thank you, maiss dain. next speaker, please. >> hi there. my name is deandra hundrin, and before i start, i just need to make a minute because the emotional feeling of standing there -- actually, watching
this room packed for people who were fighting in regards to buildings, and brick and mortar to being just a few people here fighting for lives of people was quite interesting. again, my name is deand deandra hundren. current owner of business bear with me, a mother and daughter doula and maternity consultant business located in the bayview, and a member of the economic development on 3rd street, i'm actually the secretary of that committee. i am submitting these comments or stating these comments to each of you for consideration in regards to the conditional use permit currently pending
for 1526 wallace avenue. my commitment as a business owner and a long time resident of the bayview-hunters point community has made it possible for me to raise my children, now grandchild in our family home, just three blocks away from the property at 1526 wallace. i received no notification on my door, in my mailbox, in my e-mail, knock on the door, from anyone stating and letting me know that this slaughter house was going to happen just three blocks from my home. it is so disappointing that once again the community and folks like myself that live just blocks away from what i feel is an intrusive and potentially hazardous establishment wasn't notified
in a clear, concise and acceptable way that this potential event has the potential to take hold in our back yards. in fact, i can see the slaughter facility from my living room window. it wasn't until i requested to be on an informal call with the animal legal defense fund that i learned about the proposed conditional use request in its current format. i, too, believe the department lacks an adequate real basis for approving the conditional use affecting 1526 wallace avenue as a livestock processing avenue. the 20152016 wallace avenue building it into a livestock processing facility has strong environmental impacts. i strongly believe that you need more information. i strongly believe we as residents need more clear information about blood and the
waste. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi there. my name is ali al-moled, and what we need is a halal chicken. i'm a citizen, you know, this is what we're looking for in this area, and i hope you approve it. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi there. good evening. my name is marry beth stalanzo, and i am a resident of the district. i have concerns that a slaughter house would have on the neighborhood and the animals. i would oppose a slaughter house in my own neighborhood, and therefore, iopose one in the bayview, too. people who live, work, and visit there should not have to
deal with the impacts, be they physical or emotional any more than i want to. i ask you to deny this application, please. >> thank you miss stalanzo. next speaker, please. >> how do you do. my name is salal, and i'll make this very short for you. i hope we're not debating here whether people should eat meat or not and what kind of meat they should eat. however, i want to relate to you that our community needs and demands are under represented. our community needs -- there's no place for us, for muslims to go ahead and get halal meat around this place, the place of the city of san francisco and while it was opened with the muslim community in mind, i have a business very close to the one in oakland. over 90% of clients are
non-muslims. i spent the last three days counting foot traffic to that store, and i have found that in the first day, one out of 12 were muslim. in the second day, one out of 11, and the third day, one out of nine, so the people that go there really demand and need to see where the animal has come from, how it is being slaughtered and how it's being processed. it might be somewhat foreign to some -- a good segment of the population, but for a whole lot of us who really care about organic a place is, where this product has come from, what food did it eat, and how it's slaughtered. we're importantly for the people who are really worried about how humane it is or not, i challenge that there is a more humane way of slaughtering an animal, and i hope that's not the discussion that we're having here than the muslim way. reason why is the animals, when
they get slaughtered are in separate chamber from where they get gathered. unlike those commercial slaughter houses that are in the bay area, where another animal gets to see another animal being slaughtered. this is highly fore bidden in the religion, but more importantly the health way is really important to the muslims and people who are health conscious. because the way it was bled out, so it has an impact on the people. we are very well aware that this place used to for many years host these places, and i very strongly recommend that you approve this, not for the sake of the muslim community but the community at large, so i ask upon you to approve this agencial use permit. god bless. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please.
>> hi name's jamal guinan. i grew up and i was raised here in san francisco and as far as i can remember, one of my parents' biggest issues that we faced when we live here was finding halal meat. we can eat -- halal meat is what we can eat under the islamic guidelines that require healthy, humane treatment of the animals. that was important to our family first and foremost because of the meat. 20 years later, and now i am facing the same difficulty finding halal healthy, safe meat to provide to my kids. we are still facing the same issue. there's no other slaughter house our anything else close to it in that matter that allows clear, visible slaughter of the animals like they were saying in conditions that are humane. not allowed to see other animals being slaughtered.
the san francisco bay area has one of the largest muslim communities in the united states, and these are difficulties that we have faced year after year. this is not just for the quarter of a millian muslims living in the country, but to the other communities that follow this culture, asians that eat this type of meat, and jewish culture that eats kosher. >>vice president richards: thank you. next speaker, please. >> good evening. my name is alina anella, and i'm speaking on behalf of the animal legal defense fund. the animal legal defense fund
opposes the permitting of the slaughter house at 1526 wallace avenue. as explained in detail in our written statement, the planning department lacks abadequate legal basis to approve the facility. we urge the department to conduct an environmental impact report as required by the california environmental quality act. the department has next to no information about what this slaughter facility will involve. however, we can expect that the facility will result in the he mission of air pollutants, the release of effluent into water, and it will generate waste, including solid waste. all of this will have a negative impact on a
neighborhood that's disproportionately impacted by pollution. in addition, the animals slaughtered in this slaughter house will be transported all the way from pennsylvania, and when they get there, they'll be held sometimes up until multiple days in small cages. this long transport and being held in these cages will cause the animals unnecessary suffering and it will increase their risk of disease when they're placed under stress and kept in close quarters. this in turn puts the community at risk for zoonotic disease. lastly, proper notice was not given of the consideration of this conditional use permit application as required in the san francisco planning code. notice should have been given 20 days in advance in the newspaper. that would have been november 10th. however, notice was given on
november 22nd in the newspaper, which is 12 days late. as a result, not all community members had a property opportunity to comment on this. thank you for your consideration. >>vice president richards: thank y thank you. i'll call some more speaker cards. -- those were called? i'm sorry. sala al kari, schwan parker, abdu abdul, -- abdul awardi. >> hi.
i'm here to support the -- [ inaudible ] we draw up like that. we like the fresh meat. if you've ever tasted fresh meat, you see the difference between this meat and the fresh meat. we support halal 100%. it's strong for our community. it's different from other meat absolutely. that is different from any meat in san francisco. when they opened it in oakland, i supported it 100%. it's the taste is different from others. please we need your support. thank you. >>vice president richards: thank you. next speaker please. >> my name is shawn parker, and i support the opening of the slaughter house.
there's been misconceptions on how the blood and everything -- it does not go into the sewer, it's separated into a tank so it does not go into our sewer systems, and feathers and everything are placed in separate containers, so there's no problem with, you know, the environment because it is put into a different waste container. also, there are drains and filters to prevent the -- just like for restaurants, how they have grease traps, things are separated out so it's not going into the sewer system, but once again, i wish you would support the use of the slaughter house for us. thank you. >>vice president richards: thank you. i have a few more speaker cards. moniae mohamed rkts olga miranda, roberto hernandez, and michael haas.
anybody? -- or anybody else who would like to speak, to offer public comment on this item. >> good evening, commissioners, council. i'm not in opposition to the establishment of the business that has been proposed. i've known the gentlemen that are operating the business in oakland for just under 3.5 years, and since july of 2014, i've been to their business nearly a dozen times. none of the issues that were raised here, which were opposable, which was a smell was recognized. i understand that there's some consideration for airation. i did not recognize any problems with that in my visit to the business, and as such, i'm not in opposition to the
establishment of this business based upon my observations of the business in oakland. thank you very much. >>vice president richards: thank you. any additional public speakers? public comment, please... >> good evening commissioners. my name is kristina stella. i am a staff attorney with the animal legal defense fund. i'm a san francisco resident, and a patron of businesses in bayview, hunters point. i just want to reity raterate,l notice was not given to us under the planning code. green action, the planning organization that represents residents of this neighborhood has submitted comments based on opposition. our comments were based solely
on environmental impacts, and so you've heard differing opinions, but legally, you're required to decide on the facts. no offense to the owners, merits of the facility aside, but the facility will have significant environmental impacts. aside from the documentation that alds has introduced into the record, the commission has no studies with regards to this facility. i also want to correct, we have no indication that these animals are raised under the standards of the national organic program, as someone mentioned. slaughtering 400 birds or keeping 400 birds on-site is substantially larger than the
location in oakland, and the oakland city council pushed back on that facility. our written comments and the comments we've submitted today meet the even if this facility will ultimately be regulated by other agencies or under other laws, it is still your responsibility to study its impacts before approving it and to justify your decision in light of the information that you've been presented with. you saw earlier the value of the eir. we all witnessed that. much of the environmental information that we presented in our comments was generated by the city of san francisco which certainly deserves your consideration. also, with regard to your conversation before about the community benefits package, at this point, there's nothing that would bind the business owners to any, you know, specific standards, but you do have the power to implement them, so in conclusion, you need to know the law prirequir
this commission to know, study the impact of your environmental decisions before you approve impacts or try to impose any meaningful conditions, so with that missing here, we urge you to deny the permit. thank you. >>vice president richards: thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello, everyone. my name is ahmed aboussi, and most of my members and community goes to oakland for islamic halal meat, and it's unfair that our -- such a city in oakland has a place for them -- has a halal meat in there, and we do not have one here in san francisco. i've been going to oakland for the past five years.
i did not hear of an environmental problem or health issue or anything that was raised by some people in here. therefore, i'm going to ask -- i also want to add that i was in here a few weeks ago, and i went to the same plant with families, and they've been living there for the past 20 years, and there is no environment issue there or health issue. i'm here today -- i waited for five hours to tell you, i need your compassions for our community to vote yes for that application. thank you. >>vice president richards: thank you. next speaker, please.
>> good evening and i want to thank you for your marathon meeting. you guys have been in and out, and it's been a long night, so i want to be able to thank you for your time and that you guys are still awake. my name's olga miranda, and i'm the president of local 87, and i'm speaking in support tonight of saba halal meat. i represent about 5,000 janitor's working in private sector in san francisco the lights you see on in the city, those are our members, those are our workers working downtown. our union local 87 doesn't just stop at our contracts. we go and we help our members advocate at the school district for more -- better services for our children. we also go and we're -- we're always at the forefront of
fighting for immigrant rights, against police brutality, and the first time in 20 years that i've ever come to talk to you about meat in city hall, so there's always a first. our city has always prided ourselves in inclusivity. we've always condemned racism and premgs of a face. the condition of wearing a t-shirt or button is not the same, because islam is a way of life for our members. it's a life thing. these muslim members don't have a supermarket, and it would be hard on you if you had to travel on us your community just to buy meat. for our members who are muslim, those are the treks that we have to go, or stockton or san joaquin or modesto to get real
halal meat, and that would be an intrusion of all of our time if we were put in that same position. they can't afford whole foods, so they can't shop at whole foods. we, and our members have to travel very far to have the luxury of putting meat, a protein on their table, so i just ask that you please put yourself this that position. how would all of you like to be put in that position, having to trek just to put a slight of organic chicken on your tables? for our members. the same way that people feel so passionate about organic, halal is the same for our members. in terms of the socioeconomic impact, it would be a positive impact. the bayview has always been ignored, and now, there will be more gentrification,
unfortunately, but these members live in our community, and for a long time, they've been ignored. every weekend at the farmer's market, life chickens are being sold there, and they're being slaughtered. i'm just asking you to think where that has happened. >>vice president richards: thank you, ma'am. your time is up. [ inaudible ] >> thank you. >>vice president richards: ma'am, your time is up. thank you. [ inaudible ] thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello. my name is merced.
i'm not a good public speaker, but we need your support for our community. also your support for this business. thank you so much. >>vice president richards: thank you. any other speakers on this item? seeing none, this portion of the hearing is closed. commissioner johnson? >>commissioner johnson: thank you. so i will have a question or two for the staff and the attorney in just a moment, but i do want to say that there's a lot of issues to weigh here, but i do think it's important for us to are culturally inclusive in this city, and that's not just being saying it, when you see people walking up that may look different or worship different than we do, but it's allowing for the infrastructure that diversity requires, and i don't think
that everyone here in the room here is vegan. i know that some people identify themselves that way, but i don't think they are, but i think we need to really make sure that we are being culturally inclusive as we discuss this project. so my question is, it was a short packet. it was a short packet, but in terms of the environmental impact questions, we have a building code, we have a plumbing code, we have a green building code that -- and i believe -- this is my question for the city attorney, that those codes are -- by having them, we have affirmed them under ceqa, is that -- i have a line of questioning here. see if i get -- see if i get this right. >> commissioners, kate stacey from the city attorney's office. when the city adopts codes or code amendments, most of those code amendments are considered projects under ceqa, so there
is environmental review. i can't confirm what the environmental review might have been for the various components of the building code. >>commissioner johnson: okay. thank you. i think the reason i asked that question is particularly as it relates to the handling of livestock and disposal of remains, those activities broadly are covered under our existing codes, so, for example, i believe that halal method is different in the sense that you're not just dumping blood in sewers. i mean, the animals are blessed and they're processed for slaughter and processing, but where there is effluent or where there are other remains or materials, it seems that that's covered under our plumbing and green building
code. >> specifically, i don't know where the disposal of effluent and blood would happen. the program is going to be required to go through additional review through the building department, as well as receive approvals through dph and possibly the state for disposal of the waste, the processing of food as well as the finish of the interior walls because they're going to be processing food they'll be for sale, so there are multiple steps of final approval that we do not know, i think all of the details, just like we might not know all of the details that the building department might review, but they are subject to those further details. as far as the halal slaughter process, i think the project sponsor might know a few more details if we wanted them to possibly discuss that. >>commissioner johnson: thank you. yeah, broadly speaking, there's a little bit of gray area here, but i feel it's our decision to have the land use decision, and
there are other departments, both locally and statewide that cover the operations and making sure that they comply with those regulations. i'm familiar with -- i haven't been inside one, but there are halal butchers in other cities that aren't necessarily in fully industrial areas, so i think there's an opportunity for something here because here, it's a pdr, but it's not necessarily out that just because of the area that it is. i would say that debating t bayview-hunters point has other agri-type uses. i would not necessarily say that this is an out lier, and this should be out there
somewhere if we're going to consider ourselves an inclusive and diverse city. the actual operations are covered under other laws and agencies that have, you know, approved their codes under ceqa. >> mr. koppel. >> thank you, vice president, so i'm going to echo the comments of commissioner johnson, as far as being inclusive and diverse here in san francisco, seeing as we do not have one of these already. looking at the location in general, i don't have a problem with this business being in this location, so the land use issue, i don't have a problem there. i do not think this needs an official eir. i do think maybe some more clarification to make the nearby neighbors -- [ inaudible ] -- might be in approximate order. i do see there's talks of a
liaison or odor removal. some of this may just go into compost. i don't know and i'm sure there is a plan in place and all of these issues are addressed and taken care of, but i do think it may be in order to provide that actual plan in writing to the adjacent neighbors. i actually respect the treatment of the animals and so i don't -- i have support for the project in general. i may be open to just kind of solidifying a more defined disposal and removal plan for the liquids and the solids, just so that the neighboring businesses and people feel better about what is actually happening, but other than that, i'm supportive. >> thank you. mr. fenton, can you help us with what all that means, because i'm thinking what the difference is between this and whole foods.
>> yeah, i'd be happy to answer those questions, and with due respect to the commission, knowing you've had a long night, it's also difficult to convey the information that we'd planned to convey in half the time that we thought we had, so thank you for calling me. thank you for calling me back up to make a couple of more points because they're -- the san francisco public utilities commission does have a program that regulates industrial uses and what they can put into -- into the sewage system, and so there's an industrial use permitting requirement in place that requires operations like these to divert solids and to divert biological wastes from the sewer system, and so what that's done, when the chickens are slaughtered, the blood is captured into a tank.
the feathers are similar ly put into another container to hold them, as with the meat by-products. those are cleaned, they're put into air tight containers, and they're stored in an on-site facility for san teitary reaso and they're collected by darling, located on amador street just up the road, where they take a lot of waste from restaurants, grocery stores, other food service industries around the city, and then, turn those into useful products so there's -- it's obviously not a 100% closed system, but there is absolutely a permitting requirement in place that will deal with all of these issues in a very thorough way.
>>vice president richards: thank you. commissioner melgar. >>commissioner melgar: thank you. so just to echo the comments of commissioner johnson, i do think that supporting the diversity in the -- our city means having the infrastructure to support folks who live here, and worship here and, you know, live in different ways, so i do believe that that is something that we must do. the one thing that i heard that troubled me was about the noticing, and so if you -- if staff could please comment on that, and you know, clarify what the requirements are and what we did, and if there's any gray areas that we need to take into account. >> sure. i was able to review the newspaper postings. they are available on the website on-line, and the newspaper posting for this project was made on november
8th, 2017, which is 22 days, which far exceeds the minimum requirements for this area, which, i believe is 20 days, so it far exceeds the minimum requirements. >>commissioner melgar: okay. thank you. >>vice president richards: commissioner fong. >>commissioner fong: yes. while i respect all diet choices and lifestyle choices and religious choices, i do believe that we are a farm to table city, and you know, when we step into a restaurant, we enjoy that aspect and bringing produce and the processing of produce, whether it's vegetables or meats getting closer to the place where we're going to eat it and enjoy it. i happen to be a graduate of a cooking school, as well as a certified food handler in sanitation, and to the point, whole foods doesn't get bulk
meat wrapped up. they cut it down, and dispose of it in the proper way, using sanitary chemicals and hot water over 215°. i'm sure this company would stay to the health department in all those same codes and aspects, so i'm in support of it. i think it's just one more aspect that keeps san francisco unique and fresh. >>vice president richards: commissioner moore. >>commissioner moore: i'm in support of comments made by my fellow commissioners, especially the biggest one, inclusivity, and supporting the diversity of our community, which is a haulmark community. i want to clarify the building in question is really not directly adjacent to residential, but it's clearly in the midst of like sized warehouses to all sides, and i do believe that given that we do have very strict food
handling and environmental regulations on all level of local, state, and federal government, that this particular facility will spend every -- leave no page unturned, particularly as it limpgs in links into religious practices, so i would move that we approve the project and hope that it will be realized soon so it can be considered for the community which really needs it. >>vice president richards: one morquestion. why transport the chickens all the way from pennsylvania, not petaluma? >> actually, most of saba facilities are in the new york area, so their website says that their chickens are coming from pennsylvania, and i think that's just an oversight
because they have facilities in oakland. their poultry is actually coming from pitman family farms, which is based in fresno. you know them as the purveyors of mary's free range chicken that you get in the grocery stores. >> we heard this in comment quite a bit, and people were wondering if this was just chicken and this area is zoned for small livestock processing so you're not going to see goats and lambs and other livestock in this facility. >> that is correct. the larger livestock will actually be a different land use category, so that would be a separate request that they would have to come before the planning commission to obtain
conditional permit use for. >> any other comments? no. please call the motion. >> clerk: commissioners, there's been a motion to approve the motion with conditions. [ roll call. ] so moved commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6-0. >>vice president richards: excuse me, those persons exiting do so quietly, we have some additional business to attend to. commissioners -- we've already heard item 19, so that places us on items 20 a and b for case numbers 2014.02 cua. in 2906 folsom street, you will consider a conditional use authorization, while the zoning
department will consider a zoning staff. >> the project requires conditional use authorization for planning code section 303 and 317. the proposed project -- addressed at 2904 folsom on the newly formed lot at the corner of 25th and folsom streets. currently 2906 folsom street possesses four drawing units, the two new residences would each possess a single car garage and a roof deck. overall, the project would maintain four drawing units on the project site. -- as part of the city's incollusionary affordable housing program. to currently, the subject lot
measures 46 feet by 85 feet or about 3,910 square foot. the proposed project would subdivide the lots and the existing residence would be placed on a lot measuring 1,860 square foot. while the other lot would be about 2,050 square feet. therefore, the project is allowed to construct two dwellings on each of these lots. the project would not be permitted to subdivide the subject lot retain the four existing dwelling units in the existing resident and construct two new dwelling units since this would go over the