Newsrooms are hamstrung by the business practices of Wall Street and Big Media, even as newspaper circulation declines and TV news continues the race to the bottom. Both the San Francisco Chronicle and San Jose Mercury News recently laid off large portions of their newsroom staff. The Internet is vulnerable to the same marketplace compromises. Explore alternative business models to ensure journalism remains a lively piece of our civic life. Barry Parr (Coastsider.com, Mercury Center founder), Michael Stoll (Grade the News, SJSU, SF Public Press), Rose Aguilar, (KALW-FM, Your Call radio), Josh Wilson (Newsdesk.org/Indy Arts), Carl Hall, Northern California Media Workers. Recorded on December 12, 2007 as part of the Shaping San Francisco Talks series at CounterPULSE in San Francisco