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kevin: the chargers defensively can reset. rich: in a critical situation, you think about plays and not play. referee: the ruling on the field is confirmed. indianapolis' ball, first and 10. rich: they had to get to the 27-yard-line, and he got to the 28. kevin: here is adam vinatieri, who has today of 38 and 33. rich: you have to assume if vinatieri gets a chance, he is going to make it. kevin: ferguson is brought to you by ps3 down by perryman. the ball is up to the 37-yard-line of the colts. rich: that is a break for the colts. he will get the clock stopped and a chance to huddle up because of the injury to
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kevin: san diego is charged a time-out. you can see the helmet to hip right there. rich: and josh ferguson wasn't fooling around. he news exactly what he was trying to do, split the two defenders. you can see moving. that is a good sign. kevin: at every nfl stadium, there are 25 medical personnel on the sideline, ar- assigned for situations like this. the protocol used. but with both bercovicis participating, it has been immensely increased. rich: number one, when a potential concussion is identified, the player is being
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to get in there, visit with the player and do the evaluation without a number of other players coming around and checking on their teammate. you look at the madden rule. if there is suspicion of a concussion, the player will be escorted to the locker room. they have done a good job of zeroing in and doing what they can to promote player safety. we have talked about the number of rule changes. 42 rule changes in the last 10 years safety. a big part of it is taking the head out of the game, the hits on defenseless players. kevin: now you take flowers out of the game. they bring in craig meager to join the five in the secondary for san diego. rich: i have lost big playoff games to adam vinatieri. i know what he is about. if you are the charges, and you
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you are rolling the dice. they have got to find a way to get to luck. kevin: second down and one. luck fires it inside, and there goes t.y. hilton. it's a foot race, and there he goes! touchdown! 63 yards and the lead! rich: and they have got to go for two now. they are up by four. they are not afraid to go back to a play. on third down, they ran this same concept with t.y. hilton on the inside route. look at his speed and the ability to pull away from the safety, adrian phillips.
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kevin: mccoyle could not make the tackle. they are going for two. what a play for t.y. hilton. his first touchdown reception of the season. rich: against, they went after jason verrett. you mentioned he has been banged up here in the fourth quarter. the suddenness of t.y. hilton on the inside cut has been a real problem for the chargers kickoff gore is in, and they are trying for two. and that is incomplete. verrett was watching him. rich: you can't fault them for trying to go after verrett with hilton. kevin: how big is the missed extra point for san diego.
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and you can do the math. rich: you have to think of players and not plays. the guy you want to go to is t.y. hilton. he splits the two defenders in the middle of the field. this is a very difficult safety for the safety. with that much space between yourself and t.y. hilton. that is too much to ask from phillips. kevin: dexter mccoyle in the soaked area was the one trying to make the tackle and could not. but the missed extra point by san diego is big now. tonight on cbs begins with the season premier of 60 minutes and a report on the war against isis. followed by the premier of ncis los angeles and the new his
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rich: if you are philip rivers, he has 1:17 with a couple of time-outs as well. he has been in this situation before and delivered. plenty of time for rivers. kevin: pat mcafee to kick it off. and mccluster lets it sail overhead. to the 25 for san diego. the mied extra point by josh lambo. rich: it was the effort that is the difference. look at the effort from the veteran. talk about a critical play in the kicking game. that is the difference. we are talking about a three-point game here. san diego would only need a field goal to tie it, and now they have to score a touchdown. kevin: chargers missing a top of weapons. gates is out, and keenan allen is out with a torn a.c.l. rivers at the controls.
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first and 10. tyrell williams runs out of bounds by davis. he takes it up to the 29-yard-line of san diego after a gain of four. you have to ask yourself where is travis benjamin? you have to keep an eye on him. you can't allow the secondary. kevin: second down and six. referee: false start, offense, number 86. five-yard penalty. second down. kevin: the rookie tight end,
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right there signaling to the defense watch the screen in this situation. they have done a nice job with the screen with melvin gordon. kevin: second down and 11. rivers, congested pocket. there is henery, knocked away! fumble! mike adams with the jam. and and he punched the ball away, forcing the turnover. rich: there is hunter henery, the rookie. runs a nice route. he does everything right, creates separation. but he doesn't do a good enough
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as he comes in there and punches it out. henery never feels him from behind. traffic -- terrific effort. mike adams, the veteran, right there for the easy scoop. you work on ball extraction every day in practice as a defensive player. kevin: two time-outs for san diego. two turnovers each. it is gore, who is the 28 by emmanuel. and the game down to -- the gain down to about the 43. rich: you feel sick if you are a young player. kevin: there is gates. rich: you just can never relax, never let up. we talked about the importance of ball security. that was a terrific effort, though, on the part of gathers. he gets beat, he rallies back to the football and is able to
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it out. kevin: they just used their second time-out. one remaining and 58 second to go. gore remains. three tight end are out there. it's frank gore. mebane and others make the stop. two-yard began to the 40. he was the mchale award winner at arkansas. -- the mackey award winner at arkansas. actually, the chargers came into the game three at plus three. the colts have turned it over twice.
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and playing a desperate team live the colts, 0-2 coming in. the turnovers are critical. the missed extra point, which was significant in the game. and the effort by antonio cromartie to get a piece of the ball on the extra point, that was huge. kevin: false start. rich: young players. referee: false start, offense, number 84. five-yard still third down. kickoff jack doyle has had a lot of idealo thrown his way. the colts are 0-2 for a third consecutive season. they were 0-2 last year and eventually came to within one game of the division title. in 2014 they began 0-2, one five straight and made the a.f.c. championship game. they come in 0-250 today.
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gore, and he is trying to keep it alive. stopped at the line and no gain on the play. mebane. the chargers lost a time-out because flowers was injured. inside two minutes, a time-out is automatically assessed for an injury. rich: if you are the colts, you run this thing down and burn one of your time-outs. a terrific effort there. a couple of huge plays by andrew luck to t.y. hilton. the third down conversion and of course the touchdown. it has been tough for luck, but he hung in there. 24-37, 331 yards, and the touchdown, the game h.i.v. winner to t.y. hilton.
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quiet early, but he finishes with eight catches for 174, including that 63-yard touchdown. he was a real difference-maker in that matchup. he won the battle in the matchup against jason verrett. kevin: there are no deep guys back for san diego. the long snapper, matt overton will be sending it to pat mcafee. rich: the only thing they can do here is block it and return this ball is coming out of the hands of mcafee quickly. kickoff and he pitches it. the clock will tick all the way to zero. the chargers had a lead in kansas city in week one, and they lost in overtime to the chiefs. they had a lead here in the fourth, and they lose it to andrew luck, although now they are discussing on the field if there was -- i see a
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ron torbert, our referee. let's pause a second and put on the brakes. four lead changes in this second half, and the 63-yard touchdown completion to hill hilton may prove to be the game-winner for indianapolis as they notch their first win. but the conversation continues. rich: it almost looks as if the officials aren't on the same page. the line judge talking to the referee about the situation of kevin: we have seven guys on this crew who have worked the super bowl before. an experienced crew. referee: the ball was illegally touched by the kicking team during the down in which the clock went to zero. by ryu, we extend the quarter for one untimed down. san diego ball, first down.
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kevin: so san diego will have it for an untimed down. rich: now you have guys that were half way to the locker room. you have to get them back on the field. and you give philip rivers and this san diego offense one more shot. maybe even more, because a defensive penalty, the game can't end on a defensive penalty. we did a game last week where the raiders try to throw ball to riley cooper and run around and lateral. referee: 34, 83, and 84 are ineligible. rich: i think the play here is throw the ball to one of your bigger receivers, like tyrell williams, maybe he gets the ball around midfield and take another shot. kevin: seven are back for the colts.
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with it, up top. kevin: pass up to date neither, caught by benjamin. from behind. game is over. colts have avoided an 0-3 start and win it, coming from behind in dramatic fashion with a andrew luck to t.y. hilton 63-yard touchdown pass. both teams at 1-2. four second half lead changes. tonight on cbs, 60 minutes, followed by ncis l.a. and macg iver. second time this season the chargers have blown a fourth quarter lead. for rich gannon non-, kevin harlan, so long from indianapolis. you have been watching the nfl on cbs. marco...! polo!
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>> pelley: the bombs in new york and new jersey last week brought the specter of terror home, again. it seems no country is safe, but there is one that is beating fearsome odds. isis burned through syria and
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the hashemite kingdom of jordan. the king, abdullah the second bin al hussein, is holding the front and sheltering millions of refugees despite his struggling economy, no oil wealth and precious little water. if the king can keep his balance, jordan may prove that an arab state can remain peaceful, tolerant and modern. the arsonists torching the middle east hope to see him fail. this is not war. these are jordanian forces sharpening their edge on a make- believe town. some of their weapons are antique-- attack helicopters designed originally for vietnam, surplus armored cars that they found online. jordan can't afford the arsenals
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and, to hone it, they switched in training from blanks to live ammunition. this is the soldier who ordered the switch. he's the former head of special forces. he is abdullah the second, the king of jordan. "everyone uses blanks, makes no sense," he yelled. there's no sense in anything less than lethal because no king of jordan has ever known peace. this is the mosque that you built in honor of your father. >> abdullah: yeah. >> pelley: abdullah became king in 1999 on the death of his father, who ruled 47 years. we met the 54-year-old at his palace in amman. he knows isis by its arabic
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but whatever you call it, he says the west doesn't realize it's in a third world war. >> abdullah: i think this is the challenge that we've had over the past several years where people look at, you know, is it iraq this year or syria next year? well, what about libya? what about boko haram or shabaab in africa? we have to look at it from a global perspective. >> pelley: all of these things need to be attacked at the same time. you can't concentrate on syria one year and then deal with boko haram in another? >> abdullah: well, the prime example, it's as you see-- certain military successes in syria and iraq against daesh. the leadership, they're telling their fighters either "don't come to syria or iraq," or moving their command structure to libya. and so, are we going to wait to get our act together to concentrate on libya? and then, you know, do we wait a year or two to start helping the africans deal with boko haram or shabaab? so, we've got to get ahead of the curve because they're reacting much quicker than we are. >> pelley: the american strategy in syria and iraq, as you know, is to use u.s. air power and to
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that has not worked. how do you move forward from here? >> abdullah: i think the problem with the west is they see a border between syria and iraq, daesh does not. and this has been a frustration, i think, for a few of us in this area with our western coalition partners, for several years. you know, the lawyers get into the act and say, "but there's an international border." and we say, "for god's sake, isis doesn't work that way." so, if you're looking at it and want to play the game by your rules knowing that the enemy doesn' >> pelley: jordan says it has flown more than 1,000 missions against isis in syria in coordination with the u.s. last year, pilot muath kasasbeh was captured. isis put him in a cage and made a video as they burned him alive. at the time, abdullah had two terrorists in jail. within hours of that video, you
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what does that tell us about you? >> abdullah: i think they had to understand that there was no messing around with jordan. and a lot of those that were involved in killing muath in that video and those that were responsible for detaining him and processing him through his captivity have been taken down since. >> pelley: he's taking down each and every one in the video. you're going to hunt them down. >> abdullah: they have been hunted down, quite a lot of them. and those that are still involved, if it takes us another 50 years, we will get them. >> pelley: those are the rules of his neighborhood. abdullah reigns over a desert the size of indiana. to his west, the israeli- palestinian conflict; north, syria's civil war; east, isis in iraq; and south, severe fundamentalist islam in saudi arabia. it is a collision of tribes and
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borders drawn with a british t- square and crossed by american tanks. in 1990, king hussein warned george bush to stay out of iraq. in 2003, the son of the king gave the son of the president the same advice. it seems like american presidents think they know this region better than you. >> abdullah: they seem to understand us better than we know each other. and, as a result, you can see the train on the track coming to the... to the wreck. and we do advise that if we keep going that way, it's pretty obvious to some of us what's going to happen. and, you know, you can only express your views as much and as emotionally as you can. >> pelley: you're frustrated by that. >> abdullah: the ethnic makeup of the region is pretty glaringly obvious for us that live in the region, that advisors and think tanks in the
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we supposedly know ourselves. i mean, syria, when it started, everybody was saying six months. and i said, "look, you know, if you're saying six months, i'm saying six years." we're in for the long haul not only in syria and iraq, but for the whole region and for the world, unfortunately. >> pelley: but isn't there going to have to be a western army of some kind on the ground in order to take the territory? >> abdullah: enablers. enablers. because, at the end of the day, you can't have western troops walking down the street of syrian cities and villages. at the end of the day, you need >> pelley: we were on the syrian border in 2014 as the king's soldiers reached out to refugees. he welcomed them even though there were already more than two million palestinian refugees who've been in jordan for decades. why did you allow nearly a million and a half syrians to come into your country? >> abdullah: well, we really didn't have much choice.
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the syrian regime. and, you know, jordan has always been a place that opens it arms to refugees from many countries, unfortunately. but then, it got to a point where, you know, we're now at 20% increase of our population. and the huge burden on our country, we're in dire straits. >> pelley: most of them are in jordanian towns, looking for work, driving up rents. 160,000 syri jordan's schools. what's the breaking point for your people? >> abdullah: about a year or two years ago. unemployment is skyrocketing. our health sector is saturated. our schools are really going through difficult times. it's extremely, extremely difficult. and jordanians are... just have had it up to here. i mean, we just can't take it anymore. >> pelley: they've had it with unemployment, near 15%. and that's the official rate;
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people living in jordan, and half are under the age of 24. >> abdullah: if anything keeps me up at night, it's giving the younger generation an opportunity at life. and on the flip side of that, if radicalization is going to imbed itself anywhere in the world or in this region, it's going to be disenfranchised youth. and so, if young people in this country are not going to have an opportunity because of the that's my concern. >> pelley: he showed us his concern at a multimillion-dollar campus built to be his new military headquarters. the king-- who drives his own car, by the way-- took this campus away from the generals and converted it to a citadel of software, a business park for technology. imagine these logos on the pentagon. >> abdullah: i believe the world has a stake in the jordanian economy because we are the success story of stability in
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if there wasn't a jordan, we would have had to have created one. so, i think the story of jordan is bigger than the borders of our country. >> pelley: his borders began in 1916, when abdullah's great- great grandfather led the revolt depicted in the movie "lawrence of arabia." the king traces his bloodline directly to the prophet muhammad. islamic extremists, he told us, are outlaws that the faith has dealt with before. on this subject, you call isis the khawarij. what does that mean? >> abdullah: well, in islam, us traditional muslims, it is not our right to call people heretics. god decides at the end of the day. the jihadists take it upon themselves to call the rest of us heretics, us muslims. you're in a completely different
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history, the outlaws, the khawarij, appeared, really, in the early part of islam. >> pelley: they were a sect that splintered from islam in the first century. >> abdullah: yes. and they did horrible atrocities. and as a result, the muslim communities rose up against them and exterminated them. so, they appear throughout history from time to time, and they always meet their end. but as extremists throug of our religions, you know, they appear from time to time. >> pelley: well, in the united states, many people ask, "what has gone wrong with islam?" >> abdullah: well, so, if you look at the spectrum and understand that 90% of us are traditionalists and have an affinity for christianity, judaism-- i mean, we're all the three monotheistic religions, us being the younger one-- and that our faith decrees the understanding of judaism and christianity, then we understand where we all are.
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the fight is. and they represent probably 2% of sunni islam. that's where the problem is. and if we're being pushed into the corner through islamophobia, that's where the danger is, where we, as allies, are not understood. >> pelley: your concern is that, if islamophobia takes even greater hold, muslims who are not radicalized today will be forced into that corner. >> abdullah: well, they're going to feel isolated. marginalized. they're going to feel that, victimized. which is exactly what isis, al qaeda want. i mean, you know, why fly two aircrafts into the twin towers in new york? it's to create hatred from the west towards islam so that you can panic the majority of muslims to feel that they're victimized and push them over into the extremist camp. >> pelley: pressure on the king is rising. ( explosion ) that explosion, an isis bomb in june, killed seven jordanian
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border. in 2014, it looked like this. now, with the crossing closed, only the long arm of the u.n. is lifting aid over the line to nearly 100,000 trapped refugees. jordan says that isis has infiltrated the camp on the syrian side. but even so, the kingdom has just agreed to set up food and water distribution for those who are stranded. town with his former unit, the king whispered to us, "god, i miss my old job." the crown of a prince was lighter when he only had to deal with ancient armor. >> abdullah: ( speaking in arabic ) >> pelley: he told the men, "our equipment and vehicles are lacking. we will develop them as soon as we can."
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>> martin: president obama's nuclear strategy states that while the threat of all-out nuclear war is remote, the risk of a nuclear attack somewhere in the world has actually
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when that was written three years ago, the risk came from a rogue nation like north korea. back then, the u.s. and russia were said to be partners, but that was before russia invaded crimea, using military force to change the borders of europe. and before its president, vladimir putin, and his generals began talking about nuclear weapons. for generations, nuclear weapons have been seen as a last resort to be used only in extreme circumstances. but in this new cold war, the use of a nuclear weapon is not as unlikely to occur as you might think. air-launched cruise missiles being loaded onto a long range b-52 bomber at barksdale air force base in louisiana. when you see it close up, it's... it's even bigger than you think it is. >> gen. richard clark: it is an impressive machine. about 185,000 pounds empty. but it's built to carry weapons and gas. >> martin: major general richard clark commands all of this
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>> clark: yes, sir. these are air launch cruise missiles. it is the primary nuclear weapon for the b-52. >> martin: clark told us these are training missiles, so they are not armed with nuclear warheads. a b-52 can carry 20 cruise missiles, six under each wing and eight in the bomb bay. >> clark: so, this is the rotary launcher, and it holds eight air-launched cruise missiles within the internal bomb bay of the b-52. it's a tight fit, but the way it works is, the launcher rotates, allows the weapon to release and send it on its way. >> martin: it looks like the chamber of a revolver. >> clark: same idea, just much bigger bullets. >> martin: as the most visible arm of the american nuclear arsenal, these bombers are meant to send a message to an international audience. >> clark: we can put this aircraft anywhere we want, anytime we want, and both our allies and our adversaries take note. >> martin: this is basically a nuclear show and tell?
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and tell because it will deliver. >> martin: within the last two years, b-52s have begun sending that message directly to russia, flying missions not seen since the cold war. it started after vladamir putin changed history by invading an independent country, ukraine, and seizing its republic of crimea. >> gen. phillip breedlove: the fact that military force would be used to change an internationally-recognized border in the central part of europe, that was new. phillip breedlove was the supreme allied commander in europe when russia took over crimea. the invasion was carried out by so-called little green men-- russian soldiers wearing uniforms without insignia-- but looming in the background were nuclear weapons. was there ever any indication that vladimir putin was prepared to use his nuclear weapons in any way? >> breedlove: vladimir putin said himself that he would
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>> martin: he had considered it? >> breedlove: he said it himself. >> martin: putin said he had given an order to his military to be prepared to increase the readiness of his nuclear forces if the u.s. and nato tried to block his takeover of crimea." we were not looking for a fight," putin said in this interview, but "we were ready for the worst-case scenario." >> breedlove: they see nuclear weapons as a normal extension of a conventional conflict. >> martin: so, to them, nuclear >> breedlove: i think, to them, the use of nuclear weapons is not unthinkable. >> martin: it says so in their military doctrine, signed by putin in 2014. russia "shall reserve the right to use nuclear weapons in the event of aggression, when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy." putin has personally directed nuclear exercises which have increased in both size and frequency, according to breedlove.
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>> breedlove: certainly they get your attention. >> martin: more aggressive? >> breedlove: clearly. >> martin: and the u.s. responded with more aggressive exercises of its own. one year after crimea, four b- 52s flew up over the north pole and north sea on an exercise called "polar growl." the b-52s were unarmed, but that little fin on the side of the fuselage identified them as capable of carrying nuclear weapons. >> hans kristensen: what i plotted here >> martin: hans kristensen, director of the nuclear information project at the federation of american scientists, used google earth to show us the message that sent russia. >> kristensen: each bomber can carry 20 cruise missiles, a maximum of them. so, we're talking about potentially 80 cruise missiles that could have been launched against targets inside russia at this particular time. >> martin: using the cruise missile's range of 1,500 miles, kristensen plotted his own hypothetical lines showing how far they could potentially reach
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and the end points of those red lines? >> kristensen: yes, each of them go to a facility in russia that could be a potential target for nuclear weapons. >> martin: the russians would look at that and see it as a dry run for an attack on targets inside russia. >> clark: i guess they can draw the conclusions that they need to draw. >> martin: 80 cruise missiles in your face. >> clark: it's a lot of firepower. >> martin: was that the message? sure. >> martin: the last time american nuclear bombers flew a mission like that was during the cold war. >> clark: this was a significant exercise for us. we're training the way we might have to fight. >> martin: it was an unmistakable warning, but rear admiral steve parode says there's no indication the russian military has changed its thinking about nuclear weapons. >> parode: disturbingly, in recent years, there have been specific doctrinal and public statements made by other russian
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willingness to employ nuclear weapons in the course of conflict. >> martin: as director of intelligence for the u.s. strategic command, parode spent the last two years gauging russia's nuclear intentions. >> parode: i think that they feel that fundamentally the west is sociologically weaker, and if they were to use a nuclear weapon in the course of a conflict between, say, nato and russia, they might be able to shock the western powers into de-escalating, into freezing the conflict, into calling a cease fire. >> martin: so, they have a belief that they're just tougher than us? >> parode: oh, that's definitely true. >> martin: and if they have to use nuclear weapons, we can't... we can't take it? >> parode: i think that some people might think that. >> martin: parode is not talking about the armageddon of an all- out nuclear war which neither side could win, but the limited use of a few nuclear weapons which could convince the u.s. to back down. so, how would they shock us into
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>> parode: they could strike a european target with a nuclear weapon, maybe an airfield they thought was vital to conflict between nato and russia. >> david shlapak: we're looking at h-hour. we're looking at the... the moment before the conflict starts. >> martin: david shlapak of the rand corporation directed a series of war games commissioned by the pentagon in which russia invaded the baltic states of estonia and latvia, two of the newer members of nato and, because of their location on the russian border, two of the most vulnerable. >> shlapak: when the fight starts, the russians have about 400 to 500 tanks on the battlefield. nato has none. >> martin: the red chips represent russian forces, the blue and white are nato. the relative size of the stacks kind of says it all. >> shlapak: it does, it does. this is not a happy picture for nato. >> martin: as the scenario unfolds, russian forces in red are storming the capitals of estonia and latvia. >> shlapak: they can get there between a day and a half and two
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latvia, the u.s. and nato would have to conduct a major build-up of military forces to drive the russians out. >> shlapak: one of the things you would expect russia to do would be to begin rattling the nuclear saber very aggressively, to say, "we're here, this is our territory now, and if you come and try to take it away from us, we will escalate." >> martin: "escalate." use nuclear weapons? >> shlapak: use nuclear weapons. >> martin: russia has more than 1,000 short-range nuclear weapons while the u.s. has less than 200 at air bases in europe. >> kristensen: there's one in germany. >> martin: the locations of american nuclear weapons are officially secret, but here's what they look like. hans kristensen says he discovered this photo on a u.s. air force website showing the inside of a shelter where nuclear bombs would be loaded aboard american and nato jet fighters. >> kristensen: each vault can have up to four nuclear bombs. they hang right next to each other. it can... it sinks into the ground with the weapons, levels
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doomsday movie, the nuclear weapon rises out of the floor. >> kristensen: right. >> martin: the bomb is called the b-61, and it's being upgraded by adding a new set of tail fins that give it greater accuracy. that would allow the b-61 to destroy its target using a lower-yield nuclear weapon, which would decrease the number of civilian casualties. the air-launched cruise missile, says major general clark, can also be turned into a low-yield nuclear weapon. yield option on this weapon, so we can change that yield within the weapon. >> martin: you can dial in a yield? >> clark: that's what we call it, actually, "dial a yield." >> martin: does that make a nuclear weapon easier to use? >> breedlove: we do not plan to go there. we do not want to go there. >> martin: but if you have this option which allows you to keep civilian casualties to a minimum and you're really up against it,
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>> breedlove: i don't think that any decision to ever use a nuclear weapon could be categorized as easy. >> martin: less difficult? >> breedlove: less difficult. we could say that. >> martin: russia is also developing low-yield weapons which this declassified c.i.a. document says could "lower the threshold for first use of nuclear weapons."" the development of low yield warheads that could be used on high-precision weapon systems would be consistent with russia's increasing reliance on nuclear weapons." but increasing reliance on nuclear weapons, says rear admiral parode, doesn't mean russia is eager to use them. >> parode: i don't perceive that they are... have become madmen with their fingers on the button. but i do believe they are more interested in considering how nuclear weapons could be used in conflict to either close a gap or to sustain the opportunity for victory. >> martin: so, what's the scenario?
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nuclear weapons? >> parode: that is probably the greatest question i'm trying to answer today for admiral haney. >> martin: that's admiral cecil haney, head of the u.s. strategic command, the man who would carry out a presidential order to launch a nuclear weapon. >> haney: thank you. i appreciate the update. >> martin: low-key and cerebral, haney commands not only this country's nuclear forces but its cyber weapons and space satellites, as well. is it riskier today? >> haney: well, i think today we're at a time and place that before. >> martin: it is haney's job to convince vladimir putin that resorting to nuclear weapons would be the worst mistake he could possibly make. when you look at what would work to deter russia, do you have to get inside putin's head? >> haney: you have to have a deep, deep, deep understanding of any adversary you want to
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>> martin: so, how would you describe him psychologically? >> haney: well, one, i would say i'm not a psychologist, but i would just say he is clearly an individual that is an opportunist. >> martin: does it concern you that an opportunist has a nuclear arsenal? >> haney: it concerns me that russia has a lot of nuclear weapons. it concerns me that russia has behaved badly on the and it concerns me that we have leadership in russia at various levels that would flagrantly talk about the use of a nuclear weapon in this 21st century. >> a veteran reporter of the old cold war puts the new cold war
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