tv Presidential Inauguration 2013 WHUT January 22, 2013 1:00am-4:00am EST
>> you are looking at the view from the washington monument, up to the capitol building on the national mall in washington, d.c. where, in exactly one hour, president barack obama will be publicly sworn in for his second term as the 44th president of the united states. good morning. i'm gwen eiffel and welcome to his pbs news hour special coverage of today's nailingration. >> i'm jeffrey brown. it's a bright sunny day here in washington. temperatures remain in the 30's. that's a bit warmer than four years ago for the president's
first inauguration. that of course saw a record-setting crowd, nearly 2 million people. no one is expecting anything quite like that this time around but still, folks have been finding spaces on the mall tonight since the sun came up. you can see them setting up spots now. we will be covering the entire inaugural ceremony live. and if you're not at your tv you can watch our live stream on our home page at news hour.pbs.org or follow us on twitter. >> this earmarks the 150th anniversary of the man'spation proclamation. you can see bill and hillary clinton on the podium. there are also people there celebrating the election of the first african-american president. president obama is only the 16th sitting chief executive to be returned to office. he is the first president since dwight eisenhower to win two consecutive elections with more than 51% of the popular vote. he won for the 372 electoral votes to mitt romney's 206 and
spent part of the morning at the white house having coffee with bipartisan leadership. >> this is the second time the president had his inauguration on the celebration of martin luther king, jr. and it's actually a ceremonial event. the 20th amendment to the constitution mandates that newly elected mandates take place on january 20th and several times that happened on the sunday. and followed by the pomp and pageantry on the following monday. >> both president obama and vice president biden took their official oaths of office why yesterday. >> i barack hussein obama swear -- >> supreme court justice john roberts swore in the first family. justice sotomayor did the honor at the vice president's
residence at the united states naval observe tore in washington. >> and both families attended a church service at the episcopal church directly opposite the white house. moments ago the limousine carrying the obamas and the bidens arrived at the capital after the 12 block trip up pennsylvania avenue from the white house. >> joining us, our news hour regular column younist mark shields and new york sometimes columnist mark brooks. >> big day, gwen. it is a big day. it lacks the inherent drama and expense of the new first inaugural. this is important. i think it's a defining moment for the second inaugural, the president at the top of his popularity over the past three years and this is a chance to lay out what he wants to do, i think, in broad terms and specifically of course in the
the state of the union. >> what do you say about the second inaugural? >> it's a ritual. there's a lot of celebrities in the crowd. i learned he join us franklin roosevelt as the only president to take the oath four times. he did it over two terms though. >> do you want to explain that? >> well he did it twice the first time because of roberts and then he did it twice this time because of sunday. >> yesterday, roberts read from a piece of paper when he administered the formal oath. >> it's experience. you learn from experience. today it will be how obama tackles the speech. in the past it has been a volley and government. the democrats typically say, well, government can do this or can't do that ask so it's really a series of arguments over the role of government and the second thing i'm curious to know about is how tough they were in a pretty partisan atmosphere. he has gotten tougher over the past couple of years with the opposition. how feist you he is he during
the speech. >> things people have picked up in this run up to this inauguration is that the president four years ago in his speech came tout and he actually made a comment about how he was going to to bring an end to the petty grievances and false promises in washington. now four years later was that a false promise? >> yes. i mean, the president, i think, understandably confident and an historic election and all of that perhaps overstated what could be done. this is one place where he seen having come fiercely short and it's in bringing that sense to washington of bipartisanship and of working together and overcoming partisanship and his defenders and supporters will say oh, the republicans have been intransient and small minded and all of that but the reality is washington is a more polarized place than when he took the oath four years ago. >> you say you're looking to see
how tough he is. are you looking for specifics as in here is what i want to do the next four years or more tone. >> it's more tone. the presidents don't get in specifics. they say where we are as a country and fowsh years ago he talked about the crises we were facing and then he hit the themes, the historical themes of sacrifice for country, party unity. for obama the key theme is justice. if you go back to his major speeches, he tends to talk about a bargain between the american people and the government that if you play by the rules you will see the benefits and government has to be there to give you the benefits if you play by the rules. >> we're looking at the mall where everyone is happy and waving and one thing i have to say after having been on the mall four years ago, it was really cold. and -- >> you want to say how warm you are today, right? >> i'm very warm in the presence of my dear friends but also curious how different a second inauguration feels. >> i think it is. it's still to be celebrated and the re-election of president obama means that the first one
wasn't a fluke and that's important. and i think it's especially -- i think it's especially important for african-americans that he has been re-elected and it puts in the serious ranks of chief executive and i agree with david this is a broad-brush time. i doubt there will be a sound of trumpets but i think we will see the theme of what he wants the second amendment to be about. >> we just saw the sons of vice president biden walk in and they're carrying the bibles which will swear in their father. >> we're also joined by three historians today, news hour regular george smith of george mason university and george reed of harvard and beverly of yale university. beverly there are a lot of connections to today, martin luther king, civil war, all kinds of things. >> it is a great day of anniversaries so it is martin
luther king day as we know and also the 50th anniversary of king's speech in washington on this same site. we are looking at the sesquicentennial of the civil war and also of the emancipation proclamation and the 100th anniversary there and it's a day with historical significance and i think luckily these are the kinds of moments that barack obama tends to shine. >> george washington gave the shortest speech ever, four sentences, 135 words or something like that. what are we expecting today? >> we don't expect history to repeat itself. george washington at that point was rather p.o.ed at his treatment in the media of the day. george washington, his private secretary said no sound on earth could compete with that of george washington swearing a blue streak. short of that, he didn't want to
run for a second term anyway so he gave his very short, very odd, almost dare to congress. >> we are watching the first daughters and i guess the first mother-in-law walk through the marion robertson, ma leaand sasha obama. ma leais 14 and sasha is 11. they are dressed head to toe in jay crew. >> thank you for the fashion. >> i will be keeping up with the fashion all day. >> what do you look to in the past when you look at a second inaugural? >> i think it's another affirmation of the american system, have people out on the mall, see the president and the transfer of power and that's the glory of american system and that's what george washington brought, the first person to give up power, no one thought he was going to do it. even though it's a ceremony but it's a ceremony that is -- it bring's lot to our country and to our nation. >> is it one of those ceremonies, do you agree with
beverly and richard that the second time in many respects, speaks more to what people's expectations are of their president than the first time. >> there's been an affirmation of what braun did by a majority of american people. and it turns out, a bigger majority than people thought. many people thought he wasn't going to win at all so this is, i think, have he very important. there's not a same sense of excitement but it is much more important. >> we just saw bill russell on the screen and i have to use my boston sports record when i see someone like that. >> i do fashion, he does -- >> the other thing, talking about a second inaugural, everybody knows the president now. so beverly, how can he differ or how can he be more inspirational? how does he speak to on audience that now knows him? >> unfortunately the track record on this front is not great in the 20th century. obama has been having dinners with historians. i don't think any of us -- having dinner with the long
historians over the past few weeks, to look back both at second inaugurals and second term and they have been succeeded on eisenhower because eisenhower is really the only president in the 20th century to have what people would argue is a better second term than his first term. in terms of the speech itself, i think it's right that we're looking at a question of tone. we're looking at kind of how far obama is going to go in terms of the part san question, and it's really a speech that you make for history as much as for all of those happy people on the mall. >> i have to say, as we look at the platform there, that's quite an elaborate construction by the way, just in case you're wondering. it's 10,000 square feet. ta takes three months to build and they have to do it every four years so we in washington have been able to watch all of this construction going on. i saw on our went you have an interview with the architect who said this is the only thing he is thinking about during the entire -- what can go wrong. we're thinking about pomp andste
is thinking what happens if the lights go out. now we look at the second lady of the united states, dr. jill biden on her way to the podium as well. >> richard, what do you think about the second speeches as opposed to the first, speaking to an audience that knows you already. >> the greatest inaugural address in history is the second inaugural address which is lincoln which some people say surpasses the gettysburg address. it's the best lay sermon no history. >> and dr. jill bide ep is accompanied by honey alexander, the wife of senator lamar alexander. and by debby boehner, wife of house speaker john boehner. sorry to interrupt you there. >> more recently, you may disagree with the content and the tone but no one will dispute the fact that george w. bush was aiming for the bleachers with his second inaugural with what
he called his freedom speech which is -- in terms of projecting american force, moral and military around the world in the wake of 9/11 and the doctrine of preemptive military action. >> you knows the reference to lincoln, we talk about being in a divided america now. in many ways we are politically. but you think about lincoln and that inauguration, both of his, it was a different level. >> different level all together. he is involved in the conflict where half a million people would be killed, the end of channeled slavery. a lot is at stake. we're fighting now but not anywhere like that, thank god. >> we're about to see the introduction of the first lady of the united states, michelle obama. as you watched her grow in this role the last four years, what do you think? >> well she has done -- she is a, the most popular person in america just about. she has firmed up the sense of this family as a very
responsible family that people can relate to, which was not always going to be obvious. so i think she has had that important role. she has not had the role hillary clinton had of getting involved in public policy. and i wouldn't be surprised -- and this is something she is capable of doing so i wouldn't be surprised over the second term if she drifts more in into that role. more publicly, i think she has had a significant role behind the scenes. >> jill biden has just been introduced to the crowd and taken her place. mark? >> i think it's remarkable, when she started in the campaign in 2008, where the remark about, i've never been more proud of my country, she was attacked and became a political listening rod, and it's been a very conscious, concentrated and effective effort to bring her back to the point where she is a figure of towering popularity and influence in the country. i agree with david that the family, if anything, seems central to their reality.
i mean there's no question about it. and so i think, in that sense, the one thing that surprises me, she has not taken on an issue that one would call at all controversial, and i would be interested if she does that the second term, maybe -- not to the drag of hillary clinton, but something maybe moving on in the military families. >> as you're talking about michelle obama we're watching her about to be introduced as she approaches the top of that -- of the podium there. she is -- of course we can't it. michelle obama is a fashion icon among many other things and she is -- everybody has been closely watching to see what she would have on. she wering a naviy tom brown coat and dress. fabric was developed based on a men's silk tie and j. crew belt and shoes and much discussed new hairstyle. >> i know silk ties. david, do you want to comment? >> mark is so much more up on
that subject than i am. >> should we stop him? >> we should stop right there before it gets out of control. we're about to hear the introduction of first lady michelle obama. she will be accompanied by the stairs by nancy erikson, the secretary of the senate. karen hoss, mrs. iris wine stawn, wife of chuck schumer, and the wife of harry reed and mr. paul pelosi, the husband of house minority leader nancy pelosi. >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, the first lady of the united states, mrs. michelle obama, accompanied by secretary of the senate nancy erikson, clerk of the house of representatives, karen h0. 0s, mrs. schubert, mrs. reed and -- [cheering]
>> next up we're going to see the approach and about to be announced of vice president, the world's happiest guy, bill biden. don't think we have ever seen him except in times of national crises without that smile on his face. >> and why not today. >> it's the effect of joe biden's remarks on this administration. they were an odd couple. he was the hot to barack obama's cool. >> he was the punch line for a lot of late-night monologues. if anything, joe biden has emerged in this administration has a key player and indispensable player in dealing with the congress and the political part of politics, the people part of politics which the president does not spend a lot of time, effort, or energy on. >> do you agree with that.
>> if you look at the deal with congress, they tried every other relationship, the obama, the reed-mcconnell relationship but it was the biden relationship that set it off. he know he how to run a meeting. he runs through them. that's how you run a meeting. he know he how to do that. >> recently the president at a press conference had to say i'm a friendly guy, i'm a people guy, but joe biden really is that. >> joe biden is. and joe biden's excesses of being a people person and gregarious and enormously approachable, have been very important to this administration and to what david pointed out what happened, particularly in the last couple of months. briefly, we always here this is the most important vice president in the history of the world. how does he rank as vice presidents go? >> he actually just may be -- this may be one of the rare occasions where the superlative
applies. we heard it about dick cheney in a different way. cheney, you had a sense -- cheney was in many ways provided the intellectual framework particularly for a lot of bush foreign policy. vice president biden used the senate and the relationships there and his practical skills has been invaluable in terms of promoting the agenda. >> now we have the marine band about to introduce the vice president of the united states. >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, the vice president of the united states, joseph r. biden, accompanied by inaugural coordinator for the joint congressional committee on ceremonies, kelly fado. senate department sergeant at arms, martina bradford. house saght at arms carry handley. harry reed and nancy pelosi.
>> i said that was the marine band. it was the u.s. army herald trumpets. >> have to get that right. >> what were you saying mark? joe, joe, joe? >> i think this concerns what we were talking about. >> our first glimpse of the president as he walks through the hall, accompanied as you can see behind by chuck schumer head of the joint committee and next to him, lamar alexander of the bipartisanship on display and behind him the leadership of the house and the senate. >> it is a ceremony whereby patternship is on display. >> it's university of the few. >> some of the cummings are a little chillier than others. >> beverly, you were shaking your head. >> when you go back and look at past inaugurals, every president comes up and says this is a moment for us all 0 come together and put aside our petty grievances and it bears little relationship to what comes next.
>> we have heard people say the second inauguration is as important as the first but as you watch this and compare it to four years ago, it's not the same sizzle but it's certainly something. >> it's something, as i said before. it's about the reaffirmation or the confirmation that people do in fact like barack obama. barack obama and his family. the first time, the whole notion of history -- we were talking about history today but the idea of a black man becoming the president of the united states, something i never thought i would see in my lifetime, was something that that was very emotional. >> all on its own. >> without any other ceremonial thing, just that one fact because many people thought they would never see the day so there was happiness and crying at that time. >> but a different feel this time. >> different feel. >> because it's four years of what reality is? >> four years of reality. as i said, it's the sort of thing where we know who barack obama is and we have this sense that people -- >> but it's not same way it was
before. >> that's an amazing cheering shot. one of the things you can see on the mall, they have jumbotrons set up so even if you can't get close enough to see the president walk out they're seeing what we're seeing which is the first glimpse of the president walking. >> we say it's not as many people as last time but for the people in the mall -- >> get a shot of the trumpets, the heraldry and the pageantry. >> mark? >> i was thinking 28 years ago i was covering walter mondale's campaign. he was in los angeles. >> we're going to stop. the president of the united states. [trumpet fanfare] ♪ ♪ . >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states, barack h. obama, accompanied by staff director are to ceremonies, jean borocisz, terrance gainer, house sergeant at arms, paul irving,
chairman of the joint congressional committee on ceremonies, charles schumer, senator lamar alexander, the speaker of the house of representatives, john boehner, senate majority leader harry reed, house majority leader eric examine for and house democratic leader nancy pelosi. [applause] >> i think when you walk through the archway and behold what we just saw, that is a spectacular moment. no matter how many times, even if you get two chances at it, it's quite remarkable. >> it was the people that held him up, one of the things the white house feels about this election is 2459 their supporters really had their back and they came out and voted for him. and said the last time was about the history. the people really had his back when he was under attack. >> yesterday, he turned who his daughter and said, i did it. it's those little declarations that stand out in the larger history.
>> yesterday when he said "i did it" i think he was talking about getting it right. >> his daughter had just teased him. >> he didn't mess up. >> it's not his fault. he is there with his daughters and his wife is surrounded by the robinsons. yesterday when he got the formal oath of office, the official one, brace for joe boyd en,he was sworn in on the robinson family bible. today he say will be holding two, one a abraham lincoln bible and the other a traveling bible that was owned by martin luther king, jr. at the time he was passing through dexter baptist church in montgomery. we know the biography of the man, only the third president of the united states to move from the senate to white house and he is not for lack of trying on the part of many people including many people on the podium. he is born in hawaii, raised mostly in honolulu except for a few years when he moved around with his mother and lived in indonesia. before he was elected president two years ago he was a first
term president from -- first term senator from illinois and he came to knowledge, wonder what joe biden is saying to him right now. that's something you want the -- that's a big deal. he's a big deal. >> make sure the mike was off. >> he has been married to michelle obama 21 years. he is 51. she just turned 49 years old. i was at a ceremony yesterday when where they sang happy birthday to the first lady and he was reelected by a wide margin after a long and tough election. this is the tab low you look at every four years and just think to yourself, this is democracy changing hands. >> this is it, when you see that grand sweep of the people, and it closeness on the small group up there on the podium as well as the former president of the united states, george h. w. bush. >> and his brother is behind him. >> george h. w. bush is not
present. justice sotomayor, scalia and roberts. and james taylor, and he will be performing later. >> we're waiting. chuck schumer will be here. >> just to complete that one story, jessie jackson was running against walter mondale. it was a mondale rally and it was a african-american letter carrier. i said who are you for? he said i support jessie jackson because my son instead of wanting to be magic johnson, he wants -- >> now the moan is beginning mark. charles schumer of new york, the chairman of the joint committee on inaugural ceremony. >> mr. president, mr. vice president. members of congress, all who are present, and to all who are watching, welcome to the capital and to his celebration of our
great democracy. [applause] [cheering] >> this is the 57th inauguration of an american president. and no matter how many times one witnesses this event, it's simplicity, its innate majesty, and most of all, it's meaning, that sacred yet cautious entrusting of power from we the people to our chosen leader, never fails to make one's heart beat faster as it will today with the inauguration of president barack h. obama! [cheering] >> now, we know that we would not be here today where it not for those who stand guard around the world to preserve our freedom. to those in our armed forces, we offer our infinite thanks. for your bravery, your honor,
your sacrifice. >> this democracy of ours was forged by intellect argument, by activism and blood. and, above all, from john adams to elizabeth katie stanton to martin luther king, by a stubborn adherence to the notion that we are all created equal and that we deserve nothing less than had aate republic worthy of our consent. the theme of this year's inaugural is face america's future. the perfect embodiment of this confidence in the ongoing success of our collective journey is an event from our
past. i speak of the inprobable completion of the capitol dome and cappening it with the statue of freedom which occurred 150 years ago in 1863 when abraham lip con took office two years earlier, the dome above us was a half built eyesore, conventional wisdom was that it should be left unfinished until the war ended, given the travails and financial needs of the times. but to president lincoln, the half finished dome symbolized the half divided nation. lincoln said, if people see the capital going on, it is a sign we intend the union shall go on. so despite the conflict which engulfed the nation and jownded the city, the dome continued to rise. on december 2, 1863, the statue of freedom, a woman, was placed
on top of the dome where she still stands today. in a sublime irony it was a former slave, now free american, phillip reed, who helped to cast the bronze statue. our present times are not as despair owing in 1863 but in 2013 far too many doubt the future of our great nation and our ability to tackle our own era's half finished domes. today's problems are infractable they say, the times are so complex, the differences in the country and the world so deep, we will never overcome them. when thoughts like these produce anxiety, fear, and even despair, we do well to remember that americans have always been and still are a practical optimistic problem-solving people, and that, as our history shows, no matter how steep the climb, how
difficult the problems, how half finished the task, america always rises to the occasion. america prevails and america prospers. [cheering] and those who bet against this country have inevitably been on the wrong side of history. so it is a good moment to gaze upward and behold the statue of freedom at the top of the capital dome. it is a good moment to gain strength and courage and humility from those who are determined to complete the half finished dome. it is a good moment to rejoice today at this 57th presidential inaugural ceremony and it is the perfect moment to renew our collective face in the future of america.
thank you and god bless these united states. >> chuck schumer, chairman of the joint committee and gave an unusually detailed speech. now to the invocation. >> the invocation is by merley evers williams. >> to extending the promise of our nation's founding principles to all americans. mrs. evers will lead us in the invocation. >> the farmer chair of the naacp, widow of slain civil rights leader edgar medgar evers 50 years ago this year. >> america, we are here, our nation's capital, on this day, january 21st, 2013, the
inauguration of our 45th president, barack obama, we come at this time to ask blessings upon our leaders, the president, vice president, members of congress, all elected and appointed officials of the united states of america. we are here to ask blessings upon our armed forces; blessings upon all who contribute to the essence of the american spirit, the american dream, the opportunity to become whatever our mankind, womankind allows us to be. this is the promise of america as we sing the words of belief,
this is my country, let us act upon the meaning that everyone is included. may the inherent dignity and inalienable rights of every woman, man, boy and girl be honored. may all your people, especially the least of these, flourish in our blessed nation. 150 years after the emancipation proclamation and 50 years after the march on washington, we celebrate the spirit of our ancestors which has allowed us to move from a nation of unborn hopes and a history of disenfranchised folks to today's expression of a more perfect union. we ask, too, almighty, that
where our paths seem divided by thorns of oppression, and riddled by pangs of despair, we ask for your guidance toward the light of deliverance. and that the vision of those who came before us and dreamed of this day, that we recognize that their visions still inspire us. they are a great cloud of witnesses, unseen by the naked eye, but all around us, thank you for that their living was not in vein. for every mountain, you gave us the strength to climb. your grace is pleaded to continue that climb for america and the world. we now stand beneath the shadow
of the nation's capital whose golden dome reflects a unity and democracy of one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. approximately 4 miles from where we are assembled, the hallowed remains of men and women rest in arlington cemetery. they who believed, fought, and died for this country. may their spirit infuse our being to work together with the respect, enabling us to continue to build this nation, and in so doing, we send a message to the world that we are strong, fierce in our strength and ever-vigilant in our pursuit of freedom. we ask that you grant our
president the will to act courageously but cautiously when confronted with danger, and to act prudently but deliberately when challenged by adversity. please continue to best his efforts, to lead by example, in consideration and favor of the diversity of our people. bless our families all across this nation. we thank you for this opportunity of prior to trendsen us -- to strengthen us through the journey of the days that lie ahead. we invoke the prayers of our grandmothers who taught us to pray, "god, make me a blessing.
let their spirit guide us, as we claim the spirit of old. there's something within me that holds the reigns. there's something within me that banishes pain. there's something within me i cannot explain. but all i know, america, there is something within. there is something within. in jesus' name and the name of all who are holy and right, we pray ." amen. >> amen. [applause] >> widow of civil rights leader medgar evers, quoting from an old gospel something "something
within." >> i am pleased to introduce the award-winning tabernacle choir, the brooklyn tabernacle choir, to sing "battle hymn of the republic. >> chuck schumer smiling because he represented brooklyn for many, many years. ♪ glory, glory hallelujah, ♪ glory, glory hallelujah, ♪ glory, glory hallelujah, ♪ his truth is marching on
♪ his truth is marching on marching on ♪ ♪ his truth is marching on >> may i just say "wow." >> the brooklyn tabernacle choir, consists of 280 members. they recorded three videos, three dvd's. that was an amazing, stirring performance, and you can see it just affected the crowd like a wave. battle hymn of the republic.
>> please join me in wrking my colleague and -- in welcoming my colleague and friend, the senator from tennessee, honorable lamar alexander. [applause] >> lamar alexander the republican on this joint committee overseeing the inaugural ceremonies. >> mr. president, mr. vice president, ladies and gentlemen the late alex haley, the author of "roots" lived his life by these six words: find the good and praise it. today we pray the american tradition of transferring or reaffirming immense power in the inauguration of the president of the united states. we do this in a peaceful, orderly way. there is no mob. no coup. no insur refresh your -- no sin-
this is a moment when all of us will remember. this is a moment that is our most conspicuous and enduring symbol of the american democracy. how remarkable that this has survived for so long in such a complex country, when so much power is at stake. this freedom to vote for our leaders and the restraint to respect the results. last year at mount vernon, a tour guide told me that our first president, george washington, ones posed this question: what is most important, washington asked, of this grand experiment, the united states? and then washington answered his own question in this way: "not the election of the first president but the election of united states second president,
the peaceful transfer of power is what will separate our country from every other country in the world." so today we celebrate the 57th inauguration of the american president, find the good and praise it. now it is my honor to introduce the associate justice of the supreme court, sonya sotomayor for the purpose of administering the oath of office to the vice president. will everyone please stand. >> sonia sotomayor, of course, is 58 years old, the first hispanic on the court and just published her memoir last week "my beloved world." >> mr. vice president, please raise raise your right hand and repeat
after me. i, joseph r. biden, junior, do solemnly swear. that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> against all enemies, foreign and domestic. >> against all enemies, foreign and domestic. >> that i will bare true faith and allegiance to the same. >> that i take this obligation freely. >> that i take this obligation freely. >> without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. >> without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. >> and that i will well and faithfully discharge. >> and that i will well and faithfully discharge. >> the duties of the office on which i am about to enter. >> the duties of the office upon which i am about to enter. >> so help me god. >> so help me god. >> congratulations! [cheering] >> of course this is the second
time, yesterday there were swearings in that were mandated on inauguration day. there's no set person that gets to this this. the vice president and the second lady of the u.s. and his family emblasing him. in 2009 he was sworn in by john paul stephens who was 88 years old at that time. >> gets a hug from the president. and the first >> it is my pleasure to introduce renowned musical artist, james taylor. [applause]
♪ from sea to shining sea! [applause] >> from the fanfare of the brooklyn choir to the mellow solo guitar, a voice that is, i think, everyone recognized, no matter where it comes, right. >> >> he was awarded the national medal of arts by the president. >> john g. roberts junior who will administer the presidential oath of office. everyone please rise. >> please raise your right hand
and repeat after me. i barack hussein obama do solemnly swear. >> that i will faithfully execute the office of president of the united states. >> the office of president of the united states. >> and will to the best of my ability. >> and will to the best of my ability. >> preserve, protect and defend. >> preserve, protect and defend. >> the constitution of the united states. >> the constitution of the united states. >> so help you god? >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. [cheering] >> that little stutter made us all gasp for a moment, the last four years ago when there was a little mix up. the difference now is that yesterday he was officially sworn in in a private ceremony also by justice roberts. >> it was the fourth time for the justice as well, right? >> this is the only president other than f.d.r. who has been sworn in four times. >> that's right. and f.d.r. had to win four
elections to do it. >> this is a much simpler way to do it i want to go back to merley evers, and i wonder if you were strublg as i was with the history of that. >> she was calling for a feeling of unity and bringing america together. you get the sense, we hope that the president's speech continues that theme. [cannons firing] ♪ ♪ [cannons firing] >> a 21-georgia salute. nothing >> ladies and gentlemen, it is my privilege and distinct honor to introduce the 44th president of the united states of america, barack h. obama. [cheering]
witness to the enduring strength of our constitution. we affirm the promise of our democracy. we were called to what binds this nation together as not the colors of our skin or the tenants of our faith, or the origins of our names. what makes us exceptional, what makes us american is our allegiance to an idea articulated in a declaration made more than two centuries ago we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are creat created equal.[ applause] that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable
rights, among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. today we continue a never-ending journey to bridge the meaning of those words to realities of our time. the patriots of 1776 did not fight to replace the tyranny of a king with the privileges of a few. or the rule of a mob, they gave to us a republica government of and for and by the people.
entrusting each generation to keep safe our founding creed. for more than 200 years we have. through blood drawn by lash and blood drawn by sword, no union founded on the liberties of equality can survive. we made ourselves anew and vowed to move forward together. together we determined that a modern economy requires railroads and highways to speed travel and commerce, schools and colleges to train our workers. together we discovered that a free market only -- and fair play. together we resolve that a great nation must care for the vulnerable and protect its people from life's worst hazards and misfortunes.
through it all we have never relinquished, nor have we succumb to the fiction that all society's ills can be cured through government alone. our celebration of initiatives and enterprise, our insistence on hard work and personal responsibility, these are constant in our character. we have always understood that when times change so must we. that fidelity to our funding principles requires new responses to new challenges. our individual requires collective action, the american people can no more meet the demands of today's world by acting alone than american soldiers that met the forces of fascism or communism with
musicales and militias, no single person can train all the math and science teachers we'll need to equip our children for the future or builds the roads and networks and research labs that will bring jobs and businesses to our shores. now, more than ever, we must do these things together as one nation and one people. this generation of americans has been tested by crise, is that steal our resolve and proved our resistance. decade of war is now ending. an economic recovery has begun, america's possibilities are limitless for we possess all the qualities that this world
without boundaries demands. youth and drive, adversity and openness. endless capacity for risk and a gift for re-invention. my fellow americans, we are made for this moment and we will seize it as long as we seize it together. for we, the people, understand that our country cannot succeed when a shrinking few do very well in a growing many barely make it. we believe the prosperity must rest on the pros parrots of the thriving middle class. we know that america thrives when every person can find independence and plied in their work, on the wages of honest labor and liberating families from the brink of shard ship, we
are true to our creed when a little girl born in to the bleakest poverty knows that she has the same chance to succeed as anybody else because she is an american, she is free and she is equal not just in the eyes of god but also in our own. we must harness new ideas and technology to remake our government, revamp our tax code, reform our schools and empower our citizens with the skills they need to work harder and learn more, reach higher. while the means will change, our purpose endures. nation that rewards the effort and determination of every single american. that is what this moment requires, that is what will give real meaning to our freedom.
we, the people, still believe in every citizen deserves a basic measure of security and dignity. we must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit. but we reject the belief that america must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future. [ applause ] for we remember the lessons of our past when twilight years were spent in poverty and parents of a child with a disability had no where to turn. we do not believe that anyone country freedom is reserved for the lucky or happiness for the few.
we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, any one of us at any time may face a job loss or a sudden illness or a home swept away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not -- they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers they free us to take the risks that make this country great. we, the people, still believe that our obligations as americans are not just to ourselves but to all posterity. we will respond to the threat of climate change knowing that the failure to do so would betray
our children and future generations. some may still deny the overwhelming judgment of science but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fires and crippling drought and more powerful storms, the path towards sustainable energy sources will be long and sometimes difficult. but america cannot resist this transition. we must lead it. we cannot cede to other nations the technology that will power new jobs and new industries we must claim its promise. that's how we will maintain our economic vitality and our national presence. our crop lands, snow-capped peaks. that is how we will preserve our planet, given to us by god, that
will lead meaning to the creed that our fathers once declared. we, the people, still believe that enduring security and lasting peace do not require perpetual war. our brave men and women in uniform tempered by the flames of battle are unmatched in skill and courage. our citizens feared by the memory of those we have lost know too well the price that is paid for liberty. the knowledge of their sacrifice will keep us forever vigilant agains those who would do us harm. but we are as heirs to those that one the peace and not just the war. who turned sworn enemies in to
the surest of friends, we must carry those lessons in to this time as well. we will defend our people and uphold our values through strength of arms and rule of law. we will show the courage to try and resolve our differences with other nations peacefully not because we are naive about the dangers we face, but because engagement can more due able lift suspicious and fear. american will remain the anchor of strong alliances in every port on the globe. we will renew those institutions that extend or capacity. for no one has greater space in a peaceful world than most powerful nation. we will support democracy from asia to africa. from the americas to the middle east because our interests and our conscience compel us to act on behalf of those who long for freedom and we must be a source of hope to the poor, the sick,
the marginalized, the victims of prejudice, not out of mere charity but because our time requires the constant advance of those principles that are common creed described, tolerance and opportunity. human dignity and justice. we, the people, declare today that the most evident of truths that all of us are created equal , is the star that guides us still, just as it guided our forebearers through seneca falls, just alls it guided all those men and women sung and unsung who left footprints along this great mall to hear a preacher say that we cannot walk alone. to hear a king proclaim that our individual freedom is inextricably bound to the
freedom of every soul on earth. [ applause ] it is now our generation's path to carry on what those pioneers began. for our journey is not complete until our wives, our mothers and daughters can earn a living equal to their efforts. [applause] our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law. [applause] for if we are truly created equal then surely the love we now one another must be equal as well. our journey is not complete until no citizen is forced to wait for hours to exercise the right to vote. our journey is not complete until we find a better tie
welcome the thriving, hopeful immigrants who still see america as a land of opportunity, until bright young students and engineers are enlisted in our workforce rather than expelled from our country. [applause] our journey is not complete until all our children from the streets of detroit to the hills of appalachia to the lands of newtown, know that they are cared for and cherished and always safe from harm. that is our generation's task. to make these words, these rights, these values of life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness real for every american. being true to our founding documents does not require us to
agree on every contour of life. it is not mean we all define liblabber tee the same way. the same path we want. progress does not compel us to settle centuries long debates about the role of government for all time. but it does require us to act in our time. for now decisions are upon us and we cannot afford delay. we cannot mistake absolutism for principle. or substitute spectacle for politics, or treat name calling as reasoned debate. we must act, we must act knowing that our work will be important, we must act knowing that today's
victories will be only partial. and that it will be up to those who stand here in four years and 40 years and 400 years hence to advance the timeless spirit once conferred to us in a spare philadelphia office. my fellow americans, the oath i have sworn before you today, like the one recited by others who serve in this cabinet, was an oath to god and country, not party or faction, and we must faithfully execute that pledge during the duration of our service. but the words i spoke today are not so different from the oath that is taken each time a soldier signs up for duty, or an immigrant realizes their dream, my oath is not so different from
the pledge we all make to the flag that waves above and that fills our hearts with pride, they are the words of citizens and they represent our greatest hope, you and i as citizens have the power to set this country forward. you and i as citizens have the obligation to shape the debate of our time, not only with the votes we cast but with the voices we lift in defense of our most ancient values and enduring ideas. let us each of us now embrace with solemn duty and awesome joy what is our lasting effort. with common effort and purpose and packs and dedication, let us answer the call of history. carry in to an uncertain future the precious light of freedom. thank you, god bless you. may he forever bless these
united states of america. [ applause ] >> ifill: i'm here with david brooks and mark shields we're trying to make sense of the speech. david brooks, he sounded a lot more uplifting than four years ago. >> i thought it was beautiful and effective speech. he touched on the if you want to know strong argument. >> mark, i heard themes of collective action of what's left undone. >> i would say this. there is shorthand that i would apply to the speech it has to be us. not how am i doing, how are we
god our king ♪ >> grammy award winner, 0 years old, kelly clarkson. "my country tis of thee" you don't usually get to hear all three versions. >> i had chance to talk to him, very down to earth, pleasant young man who lives in now the small town of bethel, maine he said conceived in cuba. quick soon came to miami. first latino, first gay poet and youngest ever of the five poets who have read their work at the presidential inauguration.
>> followed robert frost, maya angelo. >> mr. president, mr. vice president, america one today. one sun rose on us today, kindled over our shores, peeking over the smokey, greeting the faces of the great lakes spreading a simple truth across the great plains and charging across the rockies. one light, under each one a story told by our silent gestures moving across windows.
my faith, your faith, millions of faces in morning bearers each one yawning to life, crescendoing in to our day, the penciled yellow school buses, the rhythm of traffic lights, fruit stands, apples, limes and oranges parade like rainbows begging our praise. silver trucks heavy with oil or paper, over highways alongside us on our way to clean tables, read ledgers or save lives, to teach geometry or ring up groceries as my mother did for 20 years so i could write this poem for all of us today. all of us, as vital as the one
light we move through, the same light on blackboards with lessons for the day, equations to solve, history to question or atoms imagine, the i have a dream, we all are dreaming. or the vocabulary of sorrow. the children, and forever many prayers but one light, the color of the stained glass windows, life in to the faces of bronze statues, warmth on to the steps of our museums and park benches as mothers watch children glide through the day. one ground, our ground rooting
us to every stock of corn, every head of corn, hands planning windmills in deserts and hill tops that keep us warm. hands dicking trenches, routing pipes and cables, hands as worn as my father's cutting sugar cane so my brother and i could have books and shoes. the dust of farms and deserts, cities and plains mingled by one wind, our breath. hear it through the day's gorgeous din of honking cabs, buses launching down avenues, the symphony of footsteps and screeching subways. the unex sect song birds on your clothesline.
squeaky playground swings, trains whistling across cafe tables, hear the doors we open each day for each other saying "hello, shalom, bon journo, namest ae" in the language my mother taught me. in every language. spoken in to one wind carrying our lives without prejudice as these words break from my lips. one sky since the appalachian and the plains of majesty and mississippi and colorado works their way to the sea, thank the work of our hands. finishing one more report for
the boss on time, stitching another wound or uniform, the first brush stroke on a portrait or the last floor on the freedom tower jutting in to the sky that yields to our resilience. one sky, toward which we sometimes lift our eyes, tired from work, some days guessing at the weather of our lives, some days giving thanks for a love that loves you back. sometimes praising a mother who knew how to give or forgiving a father who couldn't give what you wanted. we head home through the rain and weight of snow or the plum blush of dusk but always, always
home, always under one sky our sky and always one moon like a silent drum tapping on every rooftop and every window of one country, all of us facing the stars, hope a new constellation waiting for us to map it. waiting for us to name it together. [ applause ] >> richard blanco you can go to the "newshour" website for the interview that aired last week. very fascinating fella. >> much of his poetry is narrative of his own experience. there he was trying to tell a narrative of all of us. >> now my privilege to introduce reverend dr. luis leon
to deliver the benediction. >> one little moment of drama leading up to this, he replaced original choice for this a meg church pastor became known for his anti-gay statement. luis leon is pastor here in washington. >> let us pray. gracious and eternal god as we conclude the second inauguration of president obama we ask for your blessings as we seek to become in the words of martin luther king, citizens of a beloved community, loving you and loving our neighbors as ourselves. we pray that you will bless us with your continued presence because without it, infect our h your blessing we know that we can break down the walls that
separate us. we pray for your blessing today because without it mistrust, prejudice and rancor will rule our hearts. but with the blessing of your presence we know that we can renew the future which can best form our civic life. we pray for your blessing because without it, suspicious, despair and fear of those different from us will be our rule of life. but with your blessing we can see each other created in your image, that unit of god's grace, unprecedented, irrefutable and irreplaceable. we pray for your blessing because without it we will see only what the eye can see, but with the blessing of your blessing we will see that we are
created in your image whether brown, black or white, male or female, first generation immigrant american or daughter of the american revolution, gay or straight, rich or poor. we pray for your blessing because without it we will only see scarcity in the midst of abundance. but with your blessing we will recognize the abundance of the gifts of this good land with which you have endowed this nation. we pray for your blessing, bless all of us, privileged to be citizens and residents of this nation with a spirit of gratitude and humility that we may become a blessing among the nation, this world. we pray that you will shower with your life-giving spirit the
elected leaders of this land, especially barack, our president and joe, our vice president. fill them with the love of truth and righteousness that they may serve this nation abley and be glad to do your will. endow their hearts with wisdom and forbearance so that peace may prevail with righteousness, justice with order so that men and women throughout this nation can find with one another the fulfillment of our humanity. we pray that the president, vice president and all in political authority will remember the words of the prophet mica, what does the lord require of you but to do justice to, love kindness and always walk humbley with god. [speaking spanish]
mr. president, mr. vice president, may god bless you all your day. all this we pray in your most holy name, amen. >> interesting, because both richard blanco and reverend leon of cuban heritage put spanish at the end of the speech. >> we're going to hear the national anthem now from beyonce that's know i don't know say knowles, mega star, mega pop star, maybe the mega star. i would note she's also going to be singing in two weeks at the super bowl. another extraordinary. >> she is the obama girls' favorite part. >> she and her husband jay-z also raised lots of money for the president.
[ cheering and applause ] >> as we have seen many times in the past that is a tough song to nail. beyonce, she found a way to do it today. >> she went off on her own has done quite well. >> now the president is about to go have special lunch and gives us an opportunity to go back talk a little bit about what we have seen in the past hour, still with us are mark shields and david brooks and richard norton-smith and beverly. just want to go around the horn here get a sense of what you thought about that. >> i thought it was remarkable. two quick things. margaret thatcher famously
observed there's no such thing -- for last 30 years or so it feels as if something like that has governed much of our own mol particulars and public life. this was a speech as emphatic as it was eloquent that challenged that notion. other thing, i thought the president made history in another way. he talked about continuity from the relative lack of drama, and second inauguration as opposed to a first. yet i tell you what, when a president says, he talks about the star that guides us still, just as it guided our forebearers through seneca falls and stonewall, the torch may not have been passed but a. >> i feel the same way. i think it was exceptional. i thought because i studied jefferson to see him invoke the declaration of independence, to weave that through the declaration, a full-throat
endorsement of american exceptionalism. very clear that he does. i thought he did very, very well. >> i'm just curious to watch the president as he leaves and shacks hands with some of his toughest critics in the house and senate on his way out. obviously not really anxious to get anywhere. he's kind of lingering. >> why not. he has -- >> he's taking in the moment. that's remarkable to watch. you don't see them turn around and say, i don't know when i'll see this again. >> he won't see it again. >> yes, he does seem happy and relaxed and open really this time around. i would agree i found this enormously moving and a real affirmation of what i think obama in many people's minds does stand for which is this inclusive idea of what america is. and what it's become. i'm not sure that i agree with david that i found it a ringing endorsement of collective liberalism. i think it was actually a pretty
safe speech in ideological terms. you look back at someone like ronald reagan or look at franklin roosevelt, you have much more kind of explicit ideological statements about government and what it is. actually the speech that it reminded me -- the most of was woodrow wilson inauguration in 1913. we are celebrating that anniversary as well, the 100th anniversary. in part because the issues are similar, climbed change now, environmental issues and taxation in banking. but the idea that people can't do certain things on their own and we need to come together. >> david? >> let me defend myself. let me attack richard. margaret thatcher gets a bad rap for that. that was -- >> that was -- >> i've always thought she got a bad rap. of who is paying tax bills that
speech was first on liberalism i do think it was the most unapologetically liberal speech we've heard barack obama give. it was tracing american history saying that he faced to our ideals we have to change and we have to change in a collective direction. we have to guarantee equal income for women for the same work, he mentioned gay rights, mentioned climate change, he mentioned preserving medicare social security. i thought it was pretty much laying down quite liberal agenda, there was none of the bipartisan, transpartisan stuff of the first speech. and there was none of what you would call conservative speech. there was very little when he talked about story of american history it was the story of seneca, thelma, stonewall. not the story of inventors, capitalism. that was -- that's different. >> that makes it liberal? >> i think so. these are two different areas people tend to emphasize. it was less about cap stallism or hard choices, i don't think there was a mention of terrorism. so i think it was a pretty
forthrightly progressive speech. >> mark shields? >> i'd like to come down squarely on the side of my colleague in this. that the president pleaded for unity, like cats and dogs. i think talking about a liberal speech, fdr's second inaugural was -- the voices of selfishness and greed. met their match in the first administration, let it be said in the second they met their master. that was real tough stuff. this was, i thought, very much a "we" speech as i said earlier. that's important. that we're in it together. all part of it. we have to measure what we do in the least among us that we have responsibility to each other, that we had to act together. that to me what came through rather than heroic narrative of
the single individual standing up. i think it was a different barack obama. i don't see it as liberal. i see it as humanitarian. >> what we're looking at here we watch people leaving the mall, we know that four years ago there was 1.8 million people. this year we haven't heard latest numbers, the estimate was that it was between five and 700,000 people which it should be said still remarkable number. there is secretary of state nominee, current senator from massachusetts john kerry. >> we're told that the president will soon sign the nominations. within a few minutes, i believe. john kerry and others. >> and jack lew about to become secretary of the treasury. rand cia chief as well as -- >> chuck hagel.
>> you wanted to jump in? >> i guess i could come down in the middle of all of you. i agree with everyone. i think it was liberal speech as well. we talked about fdr all these things have to be seen in context. certainly barack obama is coming to the perhaps end of the reagan revolution compared to what we have had in the past. it was ringing endorsement. selectivism in a way takes on the notion of the takers, that whole idea very ideological. >> what else did you hear that was -- you were talking about thomas jefferson, what other reference did you hear? >> references to lincoln, he uses the declaration -- lincoln's appropriation of the declaration to talk about how we as a nation have to come together. i was very struck by this notion
of unionism. these united states of america, not america's one nation but the notion that people coming together and by doing all of those kinds of things i think he is forcing this issue. >> actually looking at jay-z and paul ryan. beyonce and paul, just don't get this together. only in america. >> i want to ask you guys a little bit about the idea of a political speech or policy speech, i heard it, too, when he talked about that we cannot mistake absolutism for principle, it seemed like he was speaking to house republican, am i right? >> as i said he went after them on the takers, the absolutism made the point we have to act now. >> amazing shot there in the rotunda of the capital. thank you very much, mark, as they head in to do ceremonial work and signing, the president and vice president. i'm sorry, david.
>> i was just saying he will have discussion now in the country. i think it's good. i think he's learned and frankly over the four years he taking by force of personality he could be a transcending force. he's learned he can't be. he's picked a team, that team is innate to him and he's made i thought an extremely eloquent speech for that side. so i think could in some way an opening for a more honest discussion about what the country should be. >> anyone surprised by the specific things he brought up, he mentioned climate change, mentioned tax reform, it was a small -- not a big laundry list but a small list. >> he addressed a generational side, we're not going to sacrifice or surrender our responsibility of the generation made this country on the altar of getting the generation. we as americans can do both.
>> talking about the generation. >> that we have responsibility to those who made the country and those that will make the next counsel tree that will be america, whether it's education or training or whatever else. i just wanted to give just shout out to the brooklyn tabernacle choir. which i thought was just phenomenal. also lamar alexander, which was really exceptional and the -- not that the others weren't fine but they were. i thought the poet was great. >> that gives us an opportunity to speak more broadly about the ceremony it wasn't just the speech. the speech is at the heart of it, we can come back to that. we'll watch the president, vice president, go in to a room in the capital which they're going to sign the four nominations to the people he has mentioned that he is going to nominate for cabinet. let's see if we can listen in.
>> ronald reagan established the tradition of going right to sign these kinds of documents for nominations. >> thank you very much, everybody. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> at a time when we know that washington is divided by one of the -- president made in his speeches that victories are only part for consection for big optimistic day. you were going to say something before we went -- >> i thought that the tone -- were having debate, selective, not selective, i think there is one very important thing that he seems to be signalling which is that this really was not a
speech to washington at all. it was a speech about bringing the american people together, and a lot of people criticized obama in his first term for kind of being this great community organizer, running this fantastic popular campaign in 2008 then retreating in to washington really, closing up the doors and not taking advantage of that not building popular support for his policies. i do think we're seeing, this is something that franklin roosevelt was really a genius at. he said, okay, you want me to do this thing, can out there, organize and force me to do it. >> richard, what about going to gwen's question of the whole event. not just the address but everything we saw. >> well, i heard people say, why do we have a second inaugural. or such big -- why do we spend all this money, why do we go through this every four years. that choir is the best answer
that i can think of. that's why you have inauguration. this was a re-affirmation. in a country that desperately needs to re-affirm it's commonality. it's shared value, it's shared aspirations and that's what today is all about. it may seem artificial and tomorrow they will go back to fighting among themselves, which is all the more reason why we need to do it four years from now all over again. >> one of the things i found most striking you mentioned the choir, the choir was just another example looking at the crowd, looking who was on the podium, who was chosen to participate, the word diversity has been devalued these days, it seemed like they kept coming around back to that theme in every single word even lamar alexander had to say, republicans, they were all agreed. very passing references to things like foreign policy. >> even when he talks about
that people feeling the latch linking it to say direct reference to slavery and understanding that. he talks about the declaration, not everybody was a part of that. this was about bringing everybody in to that. he's making it sound normal, that this is not something that we should quibble about, it was there all along and this is about making it real. >> that was actually -- the blood draw by the sword is ref wren to lincoln. and the choir, the thing that struck me is the lyrics, he died to make men holy. he change it in modern times to let us make men free. >> this is resolution. i don't know, he probably didn't dona. all of this together this is about -- >> one of the moments when johnf kennedy didn't wear a top hat that was considered this revolutionary changea social change. now we have a total revolution
in how we see ourselves. >> i just think that the references to lincoln, to martin luther king, were not very overt. they were -- even reference to martin luther king came in one line, not even saying his name, the king. >> echo. >> could have been very over-determined speech. the theme that they pick the out they were going to be more overt references to civil war, to king's speech. but they were very subtle. >> just two things. we talked about what the inaugural is and just lamar alexander, he had been a presidential candidate himself came within eyelash if he had won new hampshire. >> many people on that podium, yes. >> you mentioned he had been governor of tennessee, president of the university. he spoke about our most conspicuous enduring symbol. the restraint to to get result,
quoting washington. that was particularly good. and i thought blanco was terrific. he brought the togetherness, the unity of it so well. the sun and moon and sky that we all share. i thought the whole event worked very well and chuck schumer brought sort of a world wrestling enthusiasm. >> brooklyn. >> only time you see lamar alexander quoting from -- >> his state pride there. >> i want to bring this back to some of the thing in the speech. we know this is we're seeing -- we're not seeing it, we could see the view from the congressional luncheon that bill and hillary clinton greeting john lewis, congressman from georgia and others as they begin to file in for this luncheon, a
familiar -- talking to senator shelby right now. a familiar view. but i'm also interested, white house let it be known before this that this is not going to be a state of the union speech. that happens in february. they aren't going in to great detail but he did mention quite a fair amount, david, of policy issues. talked about climate change along with health care, he talked about the deficit in passing, medicare and medicaid. you have to do that, maybe as second termer? >> i was struck how much climate change, he did have immigration, i was struck i'm not sure there is policy implications by familiar sis on gay rights. you think where the country was ten years ago, where barack obama was three years ago. so that's quite a departure. but i do think the climate change and mention of the word equality, seven mentions of the word equality. that's about building middle class wages. so that was implicit in a lot of
the speeches. >> it is fascinating, that president obama, people of the united states that the issues he talked about, quality of wages, full gay rights and same-sex marriage have really come so far. they are so much less controversial than they were four years ago. i think one line that i think captured the speech was, my fellow americans, we are made for this moment and we will seize it and we do it together. trying to capsulate what he said, i think that to me was -- >> looking out going secretary, secretary of treasurer timothy geithner. i'm curious what mark said about expectations for moments like this, not only for the speech but for this moment. this recalibration of our american trajectory. am i overstating that?
>> probably. i got caught up in it. >> a little bit like oscar night. too much anticipation -- you don't really remember -- >> what are your expectations -- >> the president knows that -- i thought it was curiously pugnatious speech in some ways. you know, it was almost a challenge. in some ways challenge to his fellow liberals. for a long time liberal has been a word that people run away from in this country. maybe they use progressive as a substitute. but clearly it was a challenge to the republicans who control the house and who have controlled much of the debate. >> i think one of the things we were talking about code before, i think one of the things that's
interesting this goes back to what annette was saying as well, that it was this real embrace of american exceptionalism to say, something special about the nighted states. that is a signal in this whole debate oop that's going about, is america in decline. look at bill clinton's inaugural he said, well, maybe -- we have to constrain our ambition, that was really his message in the '90s. this is a moree pan sieve vision than that, in ab attempt to be on the side of america. >> is it more that kind of tone rather than specific lines that you think will be remembered? >> i think the tone will be remembered. it depends on how he latches his policy on to what he's saying here. he's going to talk about gun control, he's going to talk about immigration reform then we'll have chance to see if everybody is going to follow along. we can do all of this. i wonder what people -- i know what people in the world any about that when americans go on and on how we are this special
place that, the hope of the world. but all of this will depend on what he actually does. melding the policy through the words. >> mark and david? >> he did say as well, that he respected other nations and their democratic decisions which is a matter some of controversy at this point in certain quarters. and talked about engaging, that coverage -- courage to engage as owe positivessed to confront. i think -- as opposed to confront. people still accuse him of being a socialist, but i don't think they can call him a european social list. >> he's an american socialist. 190s movement. >> we have few more moments your final thoughts? >> it was a good speech. i thought frankly i thought last couple big speeches from him, the convention speech, even first inaugural were a bit of a let down. i don't think this was a let down. i think this was a very good and
very eloquent summation of what he believes and gets us off on a good start for debate. >> your final thoughts? >> i agree. i think it's a different theme that he is sounding, i come back to the -- that's important. be interested to see where it go with state of the union. >> as the day goes along there is going to be a big parade down pennsylvania avenue we'll have bands and -- >> the pomp continues. >> and ceremony. but next stop is congressional lunch which will be at the national hall right by the capitol there hosted by the joint committee. you have to go online find some wonderful recipes of what they will be serving. we're about to watch some of that, we're looking now at out going secretary of defense, leon panetta talking to diane feinstein. and with that, we will now enter special coverage of the second
inauguration of president barack obama and joe biden. >> i'm jeffrey brown our coverage of tonight's and tonight's festivities continues online we'll see you here tonight at our regular "newshour" time. we leave you with the repries of the the brooklyn tabernacle choir and their rendition of the battle him of republic. have a good afternoon. ♪ glory, glory, hallelujah since i laid my burden down. ♪ glory, glory, hallelujah his truth is marching on ♪
>> rose: welcome to the program. it was inauguration day in washington: a day of parades, celebration, and the president's inaugural speech. for an assessment, we're joined by jodi kantor of the "new york times," al hunt of bloomberg, mark halperin of "time" and john dickerson of slate and cbs news. >> he talked about seneca falls, he talked about selma, he talked about stonewall. these the historical touchstones far president speaking to a new generation-- a generation he thinks gratified his vision of the world in this election in which he did well with minorities and younger voters and so to the extent that his second election ratified the new obama coalition and the new shape of the electorate he so too hopes his second term will speak to that. >> rose: we conclude this
evening with part one of a two-part conversation about the presidency of barack obama and the next four years joined by doris kearns goodwin, jon meacham, bob woodward, bob caro, and michael beschloss. >> i know it's the consensus that we're -- barack obama has to do is get along with the republicans. i'd like to say something aboutf quoting-- and if he isn't, i am-- martin luther king's statement "the moral arc of the universe bends slowly but it bends towards justice." in the first term, president obama did bend that moral arc. he got health insurance, peace of mind for more than 30 million people. the bill may be floored but it's passed. in the second term i see a sort of differently. everyone's attacking the moral arc of justice-- social security medicare, everyone's saying we have to cut it back. that's the great safety net for the american people. i almost see him as a defender. he has to defend social security and medicare in a fiscally
>> rose: today barack obama was sworn in for a second time as president of the united states. it was a cold and sunny day in washington. close to a million people came to the inauguration. they came to celebrate and see history. they included former presidents clinton and carter but not president george w. bush and george h.w. bush his father because of the latter's illness. supreme court justices were there as well as the parting cabinet members. the president took the oath of office for the second time having done it on sunday there a private ceremony then the inaugural address in which the president laid out his vision and his tae general da. >> my fellow americans, we are made for this moment and we will seize it so long as we seize it together! (applause)
for we, the people, understand that our country cannot succeed when a shrinking few do very well and a growing many barely make it. (cheers and applause) we believe that america's prosperity must rest upon the broad shoulders of a rising middle-class. we, the people, declare today that the most evident of truths that all of us are created equal is the star that guides us still just as it guided our forebearers through seneca falls and selma and stonewall, just as it guided all those men and women-- sung and unsung-- who left footprints along this great mall to hear a preacher say that we cannot walk alone. to hear a king proclaim that our individual freedom is inextricably bound to the freedom of every soul of earth.
(applause) it is now our generation's task too carry on what those pioneers began progress does not compel us to settle centuries-long debates about the role of government for all time but it does require us to act in our time. (applause) for now decisions are upon us and we cannot afford delay. we cannot mistake absolutism for principle or substitute spectacle for politics or treat name calling as reasoned debate. we must act knowing that our work will be imperfect. (applause)
let us of us now embrace with solemn duty an awesome joy what is our lasting birth right with common effort and common purpose with passion and dedication let us answer the call of history and carry into an uncertain future that precious light of freedom. >> rose: joining me now from washington, d.c. al hunt of bloomberg, jodi kantor of the "new york times," john dickerson of "slate" and cbs news. here in new york, mark halperin of "time" magazine. al, let me start with you. before we talk about the speech, just talk about the ambience of this inauguration. >> these are wonderful weekends. this is a long weekend. whether it's republican or democrat people who come are in a great mood of celebration, they're walking the streets. i love inaugural weekends. i think they're fabulous. not as big as it was last time but i think it was -- in many ways i thought there would be a little of a down tick but just
walking around the streets a bit today that didn't appear to be the case. of course all the fancy parties but there are a lot of just real people who don't go to fancy parties so i love this weekend. >> rose: john dickerson you were there for cbs with a front-row seat. what did it seem like for you? >> bright and early people were out there. long before the sun was up the president was walking down the parade the route they were 15 people deep. it was a nice antidote to what the rest of us were essentially saying which was talking about the fact that washington is stuck, that the drama and glory of his first inauguration is gone, that it's been -- you know it's a tough sledding period here in washington. that was not on the minds of people waving those flags so wildly. we were so far back that there's almost like different weather patterns in a crowd that size. you'd hear chants go up in one part then you would hear something else happen in another part. this wasn't a crowd the size as big of this inauguration but it
was still enormous, largest of any second inaugural and it was so large that the crowd closest to the speaker would respond and there would be a beat and back where we were you'd hear a response. so that gives you some sense of just how vast the grouping was of people who were there just to basically love the president which is not something he gets a lot of in the political to and from in washington. >> rose: jodi, you wrote an interesting piece in the "new york times" about how the obamas have both changed. you said describing him they used phrases like "more confident but more scared" "more isolated" "less hesitant about directing staffers whether butlers or highest leveled a visors, gratified by reelection which the obamas view as sweet vindication and bloodier minded when it comes to beating republicans." tell me how all thaw you learned about them factored into the speech you heard today? >> well i think my favorite word
in that paragraph is bloodier minded because it's not a word we associate with barack obama and yet it has become so true and fits with the very democratic ideological second inauguration speech we gave today. this is no longer the barack obama who calls for bipartisan healing, who wants to change the way washington works. he set out a very aggressive second term agenda. within a couple of minutes into the speech i saw somebody tweet "barack obama has talked about climate change more than he talked about it during the campaign." the question that leads us to, of course, is how you pass that agenda when the republicans control the house. >> reporter: jon, you wrote a piece in "slate" that said some of the same things that the president maybe should be more bloody minded. >> that seems the logical conclusion. if you look at his ambition,
he's not one who's just going to sit in the recliner for the second term. he wants to transform. he pushed for health care in his first term, advisors said let's go for something smaller, he said i want to make history. he's a man who wants to make history. we knew what he was going to talk about in his second term. these confrontational issues, climb change, immigration, gun control and he's also in these budget negotiations, is let's look at the debt limit for example. he said not only am i not going to negotiate, i'm not going to pick up the phone. he got some sort of positive biofeedback on that. in other words, he took a hard-line posture in those negotiations and the republicans essentially blinked. so all of that led me to the conclusion basically that the president is -- if he wants to be transformational he has to press his case hard and that's what he did in his inaugural address. >> rose: mark halperin, you're writing a book about the campaign of 2012.
how do you see today's speech summing up the last four years and looking ahead? >> the biggest issue in the campaign was jobs. wasn't talked about very much. the big issues that were talked about and the big issues for the president so far is budget fights. the budget fights relate to jobs but it's not a direct connection either in terms of macroeconomics or in terms of the american people. john and jodi talked about three big issues the president talked about today the president himself clearly telegraphed which is gun control, an issue brought to the fore by the tragic events in connecticut. immigration and climate change, two issues the president talked about in the first campaign, talked about in the first term but didn't as jodi said talk about very much in the context of this reelect. jobs to me was the big issue missing today. >> rose: but he tied that into what he wants to do for the middle-class. that seems to be -- he talks about it but -- >> rose: he's expressing that. >> absolutely. but the fundamental challenge for the country right now-- and we have many-- is jobs. not deficit reduction, though
that's a big issue, too. it's not immigration, though that's a big issue. it's not climate change right now, although it's a big issue. and i was struck today by how little he talked about that. it's not supposed to be a programmatic speech. >> rose: al hunt in a piece you wrote for bloomberg you said "whatever the political limitationss historians say obama needs to think big starting with his second inaugural address. he has a chance to explain where america ought to be in ten or 20 years said h.w. brand of texas. he can rise above everyday politics and speak to history. lincoln did in the 1865, f.d.r. in 1937, now it's obama's chance." did he do that? >> yeah, i think he did it pretty well. this wasn't lincoln 1865 but we haven't had one since. the closest was roosevelt 1937. we're not likely to see that, charlie. i thought he did what brand said he should do. i appreciate what mark is saying
but i think this is not a programmatic speech. this is not a speech where you talk about here's my four-point jobs program. it's a speech about vision and i thought he gave a good sense of where he wanted the country to be i think it clearly was a progressive democratic speech. in f you read reagan's in 1985 it was a conservative republican speech. and a as for those who say -- i watched fox news who say he didn't offer olive branches or reach across the table to try to encourage bipartisanship, i would note 16 years ago bill clinton in his second inaugural said that you have sent a democratic president and a republican congress back to washington, you didn't send us back to engage in bickering and partisanship. within a year they were impeaching him for lying about sex. so so much for the message that resonates on -- for bipartisanship on inaugural day. >> rose: here's what david brooks said. "it was the most unapologetically liberal speech we've heard barack obama give. it was really tracing american
history and saying to keep faith to our ideals we have to change in a collective direction. we have to guarantee women equal income for the same work, he he mentioned gay rights and climate change and preserving medicare and social security. i thought it was laying down a liberal agenda." did you see it that way, mark? >> i think without a doubt, this was a progressive speech from a guy who has offered himself up sometimes as something more post-partisan. no doubt that almost every major progressive desire, vision of america was laid out in the speech. again, nothing surprising about what he believes. i thought the most surprising thing about the speech-- and it goes the point david brooks is making-- there's something surprising in it. there's nothing he said about these issues are important to him that was new or fresh or allowed us to see into his vision of how to move the country forward on them as opposed to simply saying "i am a
progressive and these are the things i believe and i'll fight for." >> rose: how do you see this, john? this liberal agenda? >> i think that's right. also what was interesting is there was a little historical sleight of hand. i don't mean sneakiness i just mean clever writerlyness. when the president talked about history-- all presidents bring them into their inaugural adresses to add weight to whatever they're proposing-- in his first address he talked about gettysburg and concord and khe sanh. here he talked about seneca falls, stonewall. these the historical touchstones for a president speaking to a new generation. a generation he thinks ratified his vision of the world in this election in which he did well with minorities and younger voters so to the extent that his second election ratified the new obama coalition and the new shape of the electorate he so, too, hopes his second term will speak to that. and i think that was an interesting part of this speech but if you're in a republican
hearing this when he talks about collective action they hear big government, when he talks about investment they hear taxes and when he talks about takers which he did in the speech, that's a loaded word. it aims right at paul ryan who talked about takers versus makers, the takers being the one who receive federal benefits but pay no federal income tax. that's a shot. that's not just language that's slipped in. so that's the sense in which this had a combative -- there were a few barbs in this speech. >> one of the moments in the campaign when the president was office balance was when he said you didn't build it, talking about small business. that was one of the big themes of the speech saying you need collective action in order to get anything done. again, not new but laying down real markers act the fact that he's going to night the second term for a progressive vision based on those historical touchstones john mentioned and a program that is based on things that right now republicans have no interest in working with him on. in terms of gun control and climate change, immigration and budget stuff different issue. >> jodi let me go back to your
point in your piece about the "new york times" about where the president is today in his own mind. >> well, in some ways i feel that the real story of for president's first four years-- which is so hard to tell-- is how much he learned in washington. he did come to washington in 2009 without a lot of managerial experience, national security experience, economic experience, washington experience. he was still getting lost in the halls of the capitol when he ran for the presidency. what is very hard to see unless you're sitting with him in the oval office-- and maybe you can't even see it then-- is how much he's learned. he's had the ultimate washington education so we see two changes in him. one is the philosophical change we've been talking about. this is the president who didn't always say what he really thought in the first term. when there were terrible storms that leveled parts of missouri he flew down there and he gave consoling speeches in which he talked about those storms as acts of god which really angered
some of the climate advocates because they said how can you talk about this like an act of god when we believe that this is linked to climate change and we can do something about it? gun control. this is a president who did very little on gun control in his first term and within hours of the newtown shooting you could see how that changed. he came out and made that first statement and you said to yourself this is a president who's going to try to do something about gun control. the second question is how much smarter he's gotten about the washington maneuvering. the white house did do a better job at playing out the recent series of debt and budget negotiations. the question is how that will translate. i mean, even if he's smart and maneuvers really well and capitalizes on everything he's learned how much of this can he actually get done in the next four years? >> rose: on that point, al, you say in your piece the president shows few signs of reaching out
or broadening his horizons. if anything, capitol hill democrats say the inner circle is more closed. obama most recently at a news conference last week deprecate it is role of relationships in politics. he's dismissive of the notion that they would all be better if he would drink whiskey with lawmakers as lyndon johnson did. >> yeah, far guy who is so smart it really does puzzle me. perhaps jod city or john can answer as to why he just doesn't appreciate the fact that personal relationships matter in politics at every level always have going back to lincoln. look at spielberg's film. 2013 always will. he doesn't do it terribly well, maybe that's why he wants to suggest it doesn't matter. i agree with everything that jodi just said about some of the opportunities. i do think it's worrisome and not just a parochial matter. it's worrisome that they aren't bringing more people in not just because diversity of voices and
views helps but some of these people are tired. some of these people-- particularly economic people-- they are spent, charlie. i wish there were -- you had this sense there was an infusion of fresh ideas and fresh blood. not to change views and change him but just to kind of bring more vital toy the tail rather than just get ready for the big fight. senator chuck schumer has a theory to go to al's point that he tells his colleagues which is that because president obama never had to climb the greasey poll pole of politics, didn't have to make his way up in the political world, he's had a kind of special path in life he doesn't know this benefit of relationships. he didn't have to learn the hard way that relationships are what got you from the tiny city council race up into maybe the slightly higher race and that's one of the reasons. i think another thing in talking to white house aides about why the president doesn't believe in schmoozing, a, he believes -- he
doesn't want to do it. it's not his cup of tea. but his view-- particularly on john boehner-- is that boehner cannot deliver a deal. he can do all the schmoozing he wants but when john boehner, the house speaker, goes back to his caucus they are driven and ruled by imperatives that are impervious to schmoozing and this that's basically their constituents at home and therefore if boehner can't help him make a deal he has to find some other kind of leverage and that comes from the outside which is why in the inaugural address today the president talked about voters and said we have to do it not through our votes but our voices that's why he's organizing america for action, to try and build pressure from the outside that will somehow work on lawmakers. he's tried that before but they're recommitted it-to-it now that's given up on dealing with congress directly. >> if you took the 2001 most influential people in washington 2000 of them if you them in a room and ask them to chat about the topics, the president's lack
of willingness to reach out to congress very much, his lack of feel for the importance of relationships, 2,000 of the people would agree republican, democrat, journalists, politicians, yeah, that's how that works. the one who would disagree is the president. and jodi zez said there's four years now and stuff to look at. i think we're done with this. i think the notion that this is going to change we can bury. >> rose: even though he said i may have an empty house soon, my caught thers are growing older. >> i thought that was a good way to get through the press conference. this is who he is and he's been remarkably successful and as john said, when he failed in things like getting boehner his attitude is "i did try, it didn't work so when i do it it doesn't necessarily work." the next four years i really would doubt he'll change one iota on this score. >> i would make a small distinction between schmoozing and whether he's willing to have a can pay with people at night
and what he chooses to do at 7:00 and the point that al made which is what people say about this administration now is that the area of promotion is line of sight promotion meaning that the president promotes people who are in front of him who he's closed to who he trusts. somebody from chicago said with me w wonder that the president has become mayor daley because he is becoming famous for having trusted lieutenants who he moved around from position to position. michelle obama objected to that when she worked in the mayor's office, she thought it was too insular and part of the appeal of barack obama circa 2007/2008 is that he had this kind of expansive quality. he brought in people like austan gools by and samantha power who were not the usual politicos who looked at the world differently. we see that less with the administration now. there seems to be a narrowing. >> rose: it's said that journalists have the first draft
of history and historians have third, fourth, fifth drafts. when we come back, further conversation of the next four years of the obama administration two. we continue this evening with a conversation about the presidency of barack obama on the occasion of his second inauguration this time four years ago the world watched as the first african american was sworn in. it was an historic day. mr. obama came to the president in the midst of a global financial crisis and two wars. he has had to reshape america's role in the world, the boldness of his accomplishments-- health care reform-- has been divisive. in his first inaugural speech president obama promised a new vision for a troubled country. >> today i say to you that the challenges we face are real they are serious and they are many. they will not be met easily or in a short span of time but know this, america, they will be met! (cheers and applause) >> rose: four years later much
work remains on major issues from climate change to immigration reform to the debate about taxes and spending and the most recent focus on gun control joining me to assess barack obama is a group of distinguished scholars and historians. from boston, dorr wince kearns goodwin, she won the pulitzer prize for her book called "no ordinary time." her latest biography "team of rivals" formed the basis for steven spielberg's movie "lincoln." she'll join us later. from nashville, jon meacham, he won a pulitzer prize for the biography of andrew jackson. from washington, d.c., pulitzer prize winning journalist bob woodward, his latest book is called "the price of politics." in new york, michael beschloss, the historian for nbc news and author of many books including "presidential courage: brave leaders and how they changed america." finally robert caro, the pulitzer prize winning author of the biography of lyndon johnson. the most recent biography is called "the passage of power."
i'm pleased to have all of them here as we broadcast on this inauguration day as we talk about the second term of president barack obama. i begin with robert caro. what is the challenge for presidents in a second term? >> challenge but a great opportunity when you're in the second term you have nothing more to run for, no more elections. so what you're running for a place in history and you know if you do a great job you will have a great place in history. >> rose: and you never know what's coming though, as vietnam -- >> oh, it -- as i write now, the last line about lyndon johnson, when his second term starts with passing medicare, voting rights act, civil rights act just on the triumph of getting social welfare legislation through and here comes vietnam in 1965 overshadowing it all and everything turns and as you're listening to the tapes of these conversations and you hear the
despair in his -- the growing despair in his voice as vietnam comes to overshadow everything he wanted to do and that he wanted to started to do in the second term. you see how a second term can go really bad. >> rose: what did he say "that bitch of a war stole --" >> the woman i love, the great society. >> rose: the challenge for a second term? >> well, the challenge i think often times is that a president who's had great reelections suddenly finds he has less power than he thought he had. franklin park zoo in -- franklin roosevelt in 1937, more democratic congress than in any time of the century suddenly realize that the supreme court can keep on overruling the things he gets passed through congress so he tries to pack the supreme court, slapped down, bad second term. in nixon's case-- and i think bob woodward can speak on this, too-- at the beginning of his time he had both houses of congress in democratic hands. he was turning to something called impoundment saying i'm
just not going to spend the money for these bills, these acts, these agencies that democrats are voting for in the house and senate and even in the absence of watergate it's possible that that could have gone to impeachment. >> rose: jon meacham in nashville, thomas jonathan van everyson after a successful first term in which the louisiana purchase was dominant he goes into the second term and what happens? >> well his second inaugural address is largely an attack on the press so he set a tone there. every subsequent president has wanted to do that, may not have pulled it off. he ran into the possibility of war with great britain and imposed what many historians believed to be-- beginning with henry adams-- a disastrous economic embargo that expanded the power of the presidency in ways that would have made the -- a younger thomas jefferson's head explode. the president literally had the power to decide which ships left the country and which didn't as
he bought time to try to prepare for war. so he is one of the classic examples where a president in the a second term ran into trouble. i think part of that is a simple mathematical fact which is with four more years and a job of ultimate power and ultimate responsibility you have that much longer for the unexpected, the surprising and the difficult to overtake you. to my mind the president who bucks that trend and doesn't get credit for it is ronald reagan. we tend to think of reagan and iran-contra as the second term. it's also true that he didn't go to geneva this until 1985 and the man who managed to push the cold war toward it then did so largely in that second term. >> rose: bill clinton also i guess you could say got welfare reform in the second term, did he not? >> actually, it was before the election in 1996 and he created his own problems as we know and
that's one of the grat tragedies of modern american history is this enormous man, the best politician since lyndon johnson to hold the office who ran into the impeachment issue and ended up squandering at least a year and a half, two years. so -- and i think the other -- the most recent example i think by pretty common consent, president bush did better after what he called his thumping in 2006 when he finally fired donald rumsfeld, brought in bob gates and began to move to slightly more of a center position before the economy collapsed. >> rose: so what's the challenge for president obama in the second term? >> it's immense, brendan sullivan one of the great defense lawyers here in washington always says when you're in a negotiation and you have the upper hand as obama has had in the first term and may
continue in the second term, when you have that upper hand and you beat your opponent you need to let them leave the field with dignity. and that is not obama's style. if you google "obama rebukes republicans" it goes on and on and on. he is always going after the people -- his beating. just a tactically i think that's a mistake and hopefully it will change. on the foreign affairs front if you talk to the intelligence people they say that the world is increasingly dangerous, you have meltdown situations potential meltdown situations not just in syria and the middle east, pakistan, north korea which has the bomben like iran and that is just ticking away. there's the egypt problem, there's what's going on recently
in algeria and so forth. so i think the theme here for president obama is going to have to be i need to smoke the peace pipe domestically in this country wi the political opposition and i need to work and develop friendships abroad and develop some overall strategy for dealing with this very dangerous lull. >> rose: just drill down on that temperament for the president who had an overwhelming electoral victory. >> i think franklin roosevelt would have disagreed. he said the election of 1936 was a great landslide and gave him the opportunity to define his opposition during that campaign. he said they're unanimous in their hate for me and i welcome their hatred, the economic royalists. so i think what roosevelt would have said on the other side would have been if you begin to define them before americans reach their own conclusion that can be a big weapon especially
for a second term president who is going to encounter these institutional constraints. >> if i may, charlie, in this environment i think that president needs to learn to manage the opposition in a creative way and use them for his purposes and all of these negotiations that go on in the end you have to learn that the person on the other side of the table is your friend because that's the bhosh can give you what you need and that's not what's happening in the endless negotiations, not just with congress but in the world. >> rose: and i think you can actually do both of those things. there's this wonderful scene in i think it was the summer of 1974 when gerald ford became president he played golf with his old friend tip o'neill, his counterpart democratic leader of the house and at the end of the game o'neil said to ford "isn't this great, gerry?
here we are having a nice game of golf and two weeks from now we'll be denouncing each other and beating each other's brains out." (laughter) >> rose: let me go to a perfect example of what we're talking about on the side of some kind of comedy, dirkson. >> rose: well, johnson in the second term and johnson in the first term he knew dirkson was the key. >> rose: civil rights legislation. >> civil rights legislation. medicare, all legislation. johnson saw that he didn't have enough democratic votes because the southern democrats were against him, as they had been against roosevelt and truman before him. he needed votes from some place else and he saw the place to get them was the republicans and the man to give them was dirkson. but if i can say, i know it's the consensus that barack obama has to do is get along with the republicans. i'd like to say something about that. president obama is fond of quoting-- and if he isn't, i am-- martin luther king's statement "the moral arc of the universe bends slowly but it
bends towards justice." in the first term, president obama did bend that moral arc. he got health insurance, peace of mind for more than 30 million people. the bill may be flawed but it's passed. in the second term i see it as sort of differently. everyone's attacking the moral arc of justice, social security, medicare, everyone's saying we have to cut it back. that's the great safety net for the american people. i almost see him as a defender. he has to defend social security and medicare in a fiscally responsible way, bring in the in a fiscally responsible way but defend it. >> rose: but reform is almost universally suggested as necessary on the entitlements question and their means to get at that question without suggesting that you are somehow opposed to the intent and purpose of those entitlements. >> rose: and that's the real problem just the way you -- that's the way you pose it. to make the american people understand that when people talk
about government as an evil, government is social security, golf -- can we even imagine, remember and conceive what it was like when you were old and you didn't have any income? you were laid off by your company? there wasn't a social security check? when you were old and couldn't afford medical insurance? what did you do? we can't even imagine that now because we have medicare. it's a real -- you pose the problem exactly right. how can we protect these things and reform it and get rid of the excesses but defend the basic principle? >> it's not just a matter of defending it-- and i think bob caro is right that obama feels very strongly about this, he's the champion of the safety net and he should be but even he when i talked to him some months ago he said that spending on these entitlement programs is
untenable and he and all the economists know and you get to a point where you either fix it and fixing it means you're going to have to find some savings in it that there's going to be less benefits given the number of people who are coming on these programs. obama realizes that and he's just -- he's got to find a way to work some deals. he needs to -- he needs the republicans. the simple fact is-- and michael beschloss is an expert on this issue-- the president has to rally the country. not just his own party or series of interest groups and rallying the co time with the media that operates 24/7 mean you've got to find some way to include the -- in the case of obama the 60 million people who
voted for mitt romney. and there needs to be a strategy in the strategy of sticking your finger in these people -- in his eye all the time i don't think will work. >> and that's one reason why an inaugural address for a second term is so important. here we are inauguration day. you have a president who probably is addressing the biggest audience he will ever have for the rest of his life. it's one of the few opportunities the president has these days given the media cacophony that bob is talking about. >> rose: doris kearns joins us from boston. we are taping this on friday in anticipation of the inaugural address on monday and looking at the analysis of what has the not do. from all the second terms of all the presidents that you have known what's the most important lesson that comes out of that. >> i think i'd go back to what bob caro said because i could hear and i think being able to make the country understand that
he is framing a debate on the importance of government. that was partly what this whole election was about. i agree there's no part in not giving dignity to the opposition but right now i think he has to play an outside game as well as an inside game. he has to bring the characters to the white house, spend time with the democrats and republicans but the only way i think he's going to have a strategy to move things in the house and the senate is to make the country itself pressure from the outside in. that's when teddy roosevelt had to do because he had a republican party that wouldn't do his bidding so he got the press and public to push them from the outside in. that's what his second term has to do and it's different from the way he did hit in the first term. he tried the consensus route. it doesn't mean you won't reach it ultimately but to have your people pushing in your idea of what you want to happen be the country's idea. you have to provide a story for
the country. >> i wanted to show you this conversation i had with the president last summer about what he considers the mistakes of his first term. here it is. >> when i think about what we've done well and what we haven't done well the mistake of my first couple of years was thinking that this job was just about getting the policy right. and that's important. but the nature of this office is also to tell a story to the american people that gives them a sense of unity and purpose and optimism, especially during tough times? when i ran everybody said "well, he can give a great speech but can he actually manage the job?" and then my first two years i
think the notion was well, you know, he's been juggling and managing a lot of stuff but where's the story that tells us where he's going?" and i think that was a legitimate criticism. so getting out of this town, is spending more time with the american people, listening to them and also then being in a conversation with them about where do we go together as a country i need to do a better job than that in my second term. >> rose: are these the skills that he has? the skills to build on a narrative having to do with the role of government and the responsibility of the president? having to do with the ability to govern? >> oh, i think so. if you wake him up in the middle of the night and ask him what he is besides the president he will say he's a writer. he wrote two memoirs before he was 44 i think. so he totally thinks in terms of
narrative. he thinks in terms of character driven drama and i think he makes a very good point about having flipped the expectations the. i think it was president clinton pretheir man crush who said that he can -- the bromance back when they were still somewhat at odds who said he can give a pretty speech but can he do anything else? what obama has proven-- and i throw this out to everybody to see if there's a counter example-- is that the greatest president-- and i would argue f.d.r., johnson, reagan, jackson i think jefferson were people who could both project a vision that made present pain and sacrifice seem an investment in beater country, tomorrow, future and who had the legislative skills, the mechanical skills to cut deals and get it done. doris' lincoln is the great example of that. the great presidents can do both
and i think the president has proven oddly that he's pretty good at both but he hasn't brought them together in the same moment. and that's the challenge going forward. >> i would agree completely and the other thing is that the president has been plagued by this reputation of his as an orator that comes from 2004. >> rose: primarily answer prags >> absolutely. if you look at the first inaugural address i don't think it was one of his best efforts, it was almost as if he was pulling his punches to show that he was not just someone who gave speeches. and there was a little bit of a threat i think throughout the first term. this time i think he won't feel so inhibited. >> there's a curiosity about president obama in that as a president who -- as f.d.r. mastered the radio, kennedy and reagan mastered television, obama as a pam painer mastered the internet but not as a figure of government. interestingly it's very hard to think of obama soundbites, which sounds dismissive. but the only thing we have to fear but fear itself is a
soundbite. tear down this wall is a soundbite. i think there's a curiosity is n that he is kind of like jefferson in that his -- he communicates best in paragraphs, in written form. is he's interestingly kind of a 19th century -- early 19th century president governing in the 20 the 2-1st century. that's another gap he has to bring. >> and the irony of that -- >> i think that's a good point of view. and if i could continue i think what's so interesting is in the 19th century the speeching obama has printed would be read in full. and when row read his speeches they sometimes read better than when they sounded because what you get in the television is just a poster. you get that short hand which isn't often there but i think charlie the most important thing about the interview he gave with you is if a president is self-aware, if they can reflect on what went wrong and right in the first term then the second term offers amazing
opportunities because nobody can be president until you're president. you can never learn what you haven't done right and i think to some extent it kept him in washington and he knows he needs to get out of it more because part of communicating well with the american public is feeling them. that's what f.d.r. was good at. he knew what people were feeling and thinking. lincoln has those public opinion bouts every morning where he met with people who came to talk to him. he had receptions at night where he met with backwoodsman. the white house is more of a bubble and the fact that he sees he needs to get out more and connect more, he needs that energy more that will inform the way he speaks to the public because then they're in his head not just the tell prompter of a written word. >> rose: are we disagreeing with what bob said in terms of making the point that you have to be -- you can do that and reach to explain your case and explain your vision and be able to tell your narrative but you don't necessarily to go out of your
way to attack the other guy on a consistent basis or in fact have harry reid or nancy pelosi come out and attack them all the time if you're trying to get something done that demands an agreement with the other side. bob? >> first of all, charlie, one thing you have to is president obama does not control harry reid or nancy pelosi they are more than anxious -- >> despite how he might wish. >> yeah, in willing to come out and attack republicans on their own spontaneously and with sincere conviction. >> rose: do you think that's helpful? >> no, i think it doesn't work and i think he's got a real problem with that. but i think of very interesting question here is what are his frustrations in the job and it's always hard to get good data on that but i think one of his frustrations is in the first
term he inherited that financial crisis and he did a good job. we now have an economy not just on the verge of stability but on the verge of takeoff and you never get credit as president for what you kept from happening which would have been a depression and he knows he spent so much energy on that sand he knows in the midst of it he got health care reform and that's kind of the negative to lots of people also. he goes in with some frustrations that are real and he articulates to his staff. >> let me go to lyndon johnson because i can remember people saying at the time of johnson that if they let him be himself-- doris you can jump in on this-- and let him have that sort of overwhelming personality
that he would have been better off because he's seems unreal in his relationship to public. >> he's stilted on television but when you hear him on his tapes it's unbelievable. in this last book "the passage of power" he's losing eight to seven in the senate finance committee, he calls -- he needs three votes, he changes three votes in 11 minutes. and when you hear his voice, he says "i need your vote." rip kov says "i can't give it to you, i promised my constituents i'd go the other way." ribicoff. lyndon johnson says-- and you have to hear his voice-- "you save my face today i'll save your face tomorrow." (laughter) and ribicoff knows what he's dealing with. johnson in person is so overwhelming. johnson said with what everyone else was saying. lyndon johnson said about civil rights we've talked about it far
hundred years, it's time to write about hit in the books of law. the job of the president-- and obama has done this magnificently-- is to make america feel its greatness, its ideals to arouse our idealism. it's also the job of a president to write it in the books of law, to get actual legislation passed. that's what a nation is governed by and the second term in my mind is going to hinge on what is written in the books of law. >> rose: two things, one is that there's no question that l.b.j. is the most formidable political human figure i've ever met and if we had only known that person that bob caro knows through his research that i was lucky enough to know when i was 24 years old i think the country would have been felt differently there was one moment that he spoke to a bunch of reporters and he was himself and he never did that again. the teleprompter was a girdle on him. to go back to what bob woodward said, we can't forget that the republicans have attacked the
democrats and obama even more fiercely than he's attacked them so it's not like he's out there saying these mean things about them. he's responding to a republican party that at one point said the most important thing they had to do was get rid of him after four years. so i agree he has to rise above that and deal with him and you want to make deals when you're there but the political culture in which he's had to work in these last four years may have been the most difficult political culture than any president has had in a lock period of time. >> the president needs to maintain his moral authority over all of these things that we're talking about and if he is in this kind of food fight with with the opposition-- and doris is right, the republicans are often bitter and more nasty in their attacks on him-- but he's the president. he's got the a shares here and he needs to find a way because fb though there's a strident talk in politics in this country
you go out and talk to people and it's astounding the number of people who were actually moderates and in the middle and those are the people the president needs to bring to him and you do that, i think, by not attacking the opposition in the way he does. >> rose: jon meacham? >> i would just say quickly to bob woodward's point that's true it's also true that andrew jackson, who was an enormously successful president, created the modern office that lincoln drew on said his only regrets in public life were that he had not shot john c. calhoun and hung henry clay. (laughter) so people like a fighter. and to go to bob caro's point -- >> rose: before we go i want to make sure i understand what you're suggesting obama should do. >> people like a fighter. people liked it when f.d.r. said -- as michael just said, i welcome their hatred. they like people who go out there and try to sell it.
but one point about the broader culture particularly at inauguration time to go to bob caro's point absolutely lyndon johnson with the help of richard goodwin found the way to articulate the aspiration and finish the work, the unfinished work in the founting of the civil war in terms of race. lyndon johnson was doing that as a lawmaker and law giver after martin luther king and -- let a movement in birmingham and montgomery and other places. he passed the voting rights act after jose ya williams and john lewis were almost beaten to death at the pettis bridge. presidents who react to events with the spirit of leadership are going to be the most success so i don't think -- we can't isolate presidential leadership from what will be going on in the country. >> all true.
and we honor president johnson because after the violence at selma he used the moment when americans were so outraged to go to congress and say let's have a voting rights act with the help of doris' husband who helped to write enormously powerful speech. but at the same time barack obama did not need to go intensely after gun control. after newtown he did. that's the difference. >> rose: i'm not sure i understand the difference. why isn't it the same? >> it's a difference from presidents who are inactive. >> rose: oh, i see. >> i would argue newtown was the closest thing to selma that we've had. and i think that that shows that this could be a strong second term. >> bob, what are the agenda items for the president beyond immigration? what else? >> i mean, this often happens to presidents who focus on the
domestic agenda that something happens in the world that drags him into something he didn't anticipate and want. so i think -- i think if you look overall at the first term on the foreign affairs front he's done a really good job of managing all of that chaos and uncertainty and he has been both the hawk and the dove and i think there are few people in the world who think he won't crack him if he decides it's necessary. in other words, he will use the military in some way. so what -- i think the healing thing is the issue here. people who are going to listen to him are going to say you know what? he's reaching out. one of the critiques even of his biggest supporters is that there's an arrogance and overself-confidence that comes
through not just in the white house or dealings with congress but on the stump and i think he's got a little humility, a little bit of those suggesting he get out into the country and say i understand the voices of real people and i'm tuning into that and i'm going to act on that and certainly the gun control agenda is one that i think has wide appeal particularly to the moderate sensibility which i maintain still exists in this country. >> rose: that was part one of our conversation with with historians, part two tomorrow night.