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>> >> this morning -- state secrets. new revelations that former vice president dick cheney ordered the cia to withhold key information from congress. will there be an investigation? the head of the house intelligence committee is here. president obama winds up his historic trip to africa with an emotional visit to a former slave prison. he combines reflections on a difficult past with visions of a brighter future for africa. police question two persons of interest in the murder of a prominent florida couple raising 12 adopted and foster children. they've located a getaway van but how close are they to finding the killers? and it has tested the mettle of ever president for the last century. now president obama gets ready for his turn. we'll tell you about the art of throwing out the first pitch. ♪ glory days well they'll pass throwing out the first pitch. ♪ glory days well they'll pass you by ♪
captions paid for by abc, inc. good morning, america. >> good morning, it is sunday july 12th. >> if you're keeping score in pamplona, spain, the bulls are winning. we've selected the least gruesome images this morning to tell you about the bloodiest week in the recent history of running of the bulls. one rogue bull, straight from the pack, gored four runners, seven seriously injured. >> that was the least gory we could show. also, this week, washington gearing up for a battle of course, the supreme court nominee sonia sotomayor has her confirmation hearings beginning tomorrow. we will check in with george stephanopoulos to get a sense of the key players and the top issues she might face. and you might think of something as incident sounding as a mommy blog would be controversial, but, oh, no, it is. these are stay-at-home moms that write comments about products.
for themselves, for their family. some of them accused of payola, right? >> receiving free stuff, the one you're seeing there, she gets a lot of free stuff. she discloses. but some of these bloggers are not telling they're getting free products or even money from the company. >> a new ethical question. but, first, the revelation reported by "the new york times" that former vice president dick cheney ordered the cia to withhold information from congress about a secret counterterrorism program. abc's john hendren has been following and story and joins from us capitol hill. john, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, kate, a house committee is now expected to investigate the cia is now expected to investigate a program that many say was deliberately withheld. former vice president dick cheney may have explaining to do. "the new york times" says leon panetta told congressional leaders that the cia withheld information on a secret counterterrorism program on direct orders from a notorious
secretive vice president. >> the congress has been systematically misled. i know that i've been lied to. >> reporter: abc news has learned the secret program was only in the planning and training stages. >> the question was, or is, was it a program that had to be revealed to the congress? >> reporter: cheney has taken to the airwaves to defend the bush administration's intelligence-gathering methods. >> it was legal from the beginning that it was constitutional. to claim that it isn't, i think is just wrong. >> reporter: now news of cheney's role will likely increase calls for an investigation. >> this is certainly one example of an investigation i hope that will have into the cia persistently lying to the congress. >> reporter: the news comes after a new report to congress found that a secret warrantless wiretapping program produced limited intelligence and was carried out with extraordinary and inappropriate secrecy. the growing spat between congress and intelligence agencies began when house speaker nancy pelosi said this
about the cia. >> the cia was misleading the congress. >> reporter: now, even some republicans are joining the call for investigations. >> why after the speaker says i've been lied to consistently over a period of years, you know, why haven't there be any hearings? >> a former cia official tells abc news he was aware of no order to withhold information from congress. but a house intelligence committee member says in fact that information was deliberately withheld by policy from the cia. bill? >> okay, john hendren from capitol hill. >> and joining us now is representative silvestre reyes, he is the chairman of the house intelligence committee. thank you for joining us this morning. >> glad to be with you, bill. >> so, the obvious question, will you use your subpoena power? will you launch an investigation? >> well, it's premature to say what we're going to do. we're in the process, as your piece indicated, of gathering information. we have a processing place to evaluate how we go to the next step.
>> do you -- >> -- and that's what we're going to follow. >> do you agree with your dem colleagues, do you feel misled? were you lied to? >> i don't think there's any question, i've been on the committee, this is my ninth year, and we've had these issues come up pretty consistently, especially with the last administration. >> right. if the program was never operational, were they obligated to tell you about it? >> absolutely, absolutely. i'm assuming you're referring to not the report that came out on friday, but to the issue we've been discussing this past week. >> yeah, i'm referring to this new, you know, top-secret program. and we don't know -- here's what we know about it. maybe you can help us out about this. we know it was hatched right after 9/11 in those fear-filled days there. we know it doesn't involve domestic wiretapping or waterboarding techniques. reportedly when director panetta found out about it, he killed it
immediately with little resistance inside the cia. are all of those assumptions correct? >> that's pretty accurate. i think it's been widely reported. and you know, we're in a situation where we can't comment on the specifics it, but i can tell you, it had very serious international implications had it continued. anyone that wonders whether or not it was a serious program, all you've got to do is remember that, when director panetta was notified about it, he canceled it right away. >> right. >> and then within 24 hours, came to the hill to notify the committees. >> what worries you most about the former vice president's involvement in this? >> well, i think, like all of the members of congress, and perhaps members of the administration, at this point, we're still being surprised by things that we did not know were
going on in the previous administration. we have a serious job to do in carrying out our duties of oversight was a coequal branch of government. we can't do those if we're not given the information, and information is withheld and kept from the congress. >> all right, representative reyes, we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> thanks. >> kate? >> bill, let's turn now to our chief washington correspondent and the host of "this week," george stephanopoulos, with more on this story, "the bottom line" on all of this. good morning, george. >> good morning, cates. >> you heard representative reyes not commit to having hearings, what's your barometer? how big of a deal is this going to be? >> my guess is this is going to be investigated. this is the third revelation we've had on this program this week. first, we found out that cia director leon panetta discovered the program and was angry about it and shut it down. we've learned that from democrats earlier in the week on the committee.
and a "the new york times" report this morning said that leon panetta told the intelligence committee that it was dick cheney who ordered that this program be kept secret from the congress. i think it's difficult for that kind of a charge to stand out there without at least having a preliminary investigation. so i think it's very likely you're going to see some sort of investigation by the intelligence committee. but you're also going to see, this morning from "newsweek" magazine, and i confirmed this with my own sources in the administration, that eric holder, the attorney general, is likely for launch an investigation into whether there was abuse of detainees. whether there was torture of detainees, whether laws were broken during the bush years as well. they're not going to investigate cia officials who were following the laws, the guidance they were given. but if there were any, say, officials who went outside of the guidance or other during the
investigation, that's going to be investigated as well. >> that's a new door there. nancy pelosi has come under a lot of fire for making those comments that he was mislead by the cia about waterboarding. do these latest charges this morning vindicate her at all? >> i spoke to speaker pelosi's office about that, and they don't want to use the word "vindication," but clearly, it does bolster her case. clearly, they were mislead or is not given the information that congress was supposed to have. >> let's change gears here. the president back from africa overnight, but already, he's got an op-ed about congress. what does that tell us about the pivot? >> it tells that you say the president was overseas and received a pretty rousing reception in many of this meetings. there's increasing worries, especially from his allies on capitol hill about the economy and the rise and need perhaps for a second stimulus plan about health care. health care kind of stalled this week in the senate, at least,
while the president was away. it's looking less likely that the senate is going to meet the president's august recess. the president will come back and counsel patience on the economy but also his commitment to going full speed ahead on his broad domestic agenda, despite the fact some are calling him for him to scale it back in the wake of recession. >> and the big week ahead, you're talking on your show about judge sotomayor and her confirmation hearings tomorrow. do you think it will be heated? >> it's hard to know. i think this is going as planned by the white house. judge sotomayor has met with 89 senators. seems to have beaten back a lot of the criticisms before the hearings began. although you know, you can always be surprised by the actual hearings. it does look like republicans don't have the votes to stop judge sotomayor or to have a filibuster. but there have been surprises in past hearings, i wouldn't rule any out this time either. >> george, thanks so much. he'll have much more on the
confirmation hearings as we say on "this week." >> and now for the rest of the morning's headline, ron claiborne still in africa, david wright filling in. good morning. we begin with the four people gored with running with the bulls in spain. seven others were injured. abc's lama hasan has the latest. >> reporter: it was a bloody day in pamplona, after one of the bull brokes away from the pack and went on a rampage. lifting this man by the horns in a rage before other runners pulled him to safety. bulls are at their most dangerous when the pack stops leaving the animals irritated by the crowd. in total, 11 people were injured today. four of them were badly gored. this year, the running of the bulls is particularly bloody. on friday, a man was gored to death close to the start of the run in the city streets.
the first fatality in 14 years after 22-year-old american matthew as itty was killed. 20-year-old british student alex short was one of the lucky runners who escaped. >> got picked by the bull and it flipped me to the ground. it was only due to other people hitting it on the head that took its attention off me. >> reporter: the festival is a symbol of spanish culture, despite protests from animal rights groups, it is the thrill of being chased by a beast that brings back the hundreds of thousands of people to this three-day festival. for "good morning america," lama hasan, abc news, london. u.s. attorney general eric holder may launch a criminal investigation into whether cia tortured terror suspects in the wake of 9/11. as you just heard from abc's george stephanopoulos, holder is considering whether to name a special prosecutor. president obama said he referred to leave that issue in the past.
former nfl star steve mcnair's funeral drew a capacity crowd. 8,000 turned out for his memorial in the home state of mississippi. the quarterback was killed july 4th by his mistress who then admitted suicide. finally, you've heard of a brushless carwash? well, check out this place in oregon. elephants wash it off. not clear if it actually gets it clean, but tips much appreciated. that's a first look at the headlines. >> very nice. they work for peanuts. >> oh. >> this is one reason marysol took the weekend of. >> sandhya patel. hi, how are you? >> good. >> for people who weren't here yesterday, you're from the station kgl in san francisco. >> that's right. it's great to be here. i can't believe an elephant was washing that car. good morning to you all. i want to show you what's going on in the south. some extreme heat. we're talking about sizzling conditions. phoenix, 113 degrees. that's near record. 114 monday.
112 by tuesday. oklahoma city well above normal, 106 degrees today. it is going to be warmer in the northeast. 85 degrees in new york. back up to average, but below normal, around buffalo, burlington. seattle, cooler, showers, >> i'll have your back-to-work forecast in the second half hour, kate? >> okay, thanks.
and there are new leads this morning in the investigation of into murder of a pensacola, florida, couple who had 16 children, including 12 adopted or foster kids. investigators have questioned two people in connection with the killings and are piecing together new clues at the crime scene. here's abc's steve osunsami. >> reporter: police outside pensacola have found the red van used in the murder of bud and melanie billings. the van and three people were seen on surveillance video, entering and leaving the home at the time of the murders. investigators described the criminals as experienced, but have yet to make an arrest. >> we currently now are interviewing two persons of interest that began the investigation at this point that have been tied to the van that are in question. >> reporter: the couple had 16 children. 12 of them were adopted. many of them had developmental disabilities, and nine of those children were home at the time of the killings. john markham is a brother-in-law and family spokesperson. he said the children ages 3 to
11 were unharmed, and though they may not be able to understand murder, they can certainly understand loss. >> bud and melanie had laid out a plan just in case anything ever happened to any of them. we're very aware of what that is. >> reporter: people who knew the family described them as generous and giving to children and people in need. susan berry is the principal at the special needs school the children attended. >> if there was a child that didn't have something, they always sent extra money. they also gave to different organizations. i know they made significant donations to our school at various times. >> reporter: police tell us they're scouring the red van for dna and other evidence and hope to make an arrest soon. steve osunsami, abc news, pensacola, florida. president obama arrived back home in d.c. in the early hours of the morning after summits in russia and italy. but it was a trip to ghana that
provided the emotional cap on his trip there. our ron claiborne joins us from accra, the west african capital. good morning, ron. >> reporter: good morning, bill. from perspective here, the trip to africa was a huge success, not just for the symbolism of the first african-american u.s. president visiting africa, but for what he said, very forceful language, castigating african leaders for their failures and urging the african people to take control of their own destiny. president obama brought his family with him on his final poignant stop in ghana. the cape coast castle where african slaves were held awaiting shipment for the americas. >> i'll never forget the image of my two young daughters, the descendants of africans and african-americans, walking through those doors of no return, but then walking back those doors of return. >> reporter: earlier, the president delivered a forceful speech in which he bluntly criticized africa for many of
its own problems, including corruption economic mismanagement. and mismappings. >> colonial map that made little sense helped to bring conflict. the west has often approached africa as a patron, rather than a partner. but the west is not responsible for the destruction of the zimbabwean economy over the last decades or wars in which children are listed as combat ants. >> reporter: but he also applied his familiar brand of optimism to america's future. >> you can do it. yes, you can. >> reporter: it's a message that resonated with many. >> he talked about beginning from within. africa is the country to blame. i think that was a powerful message. and this is very true. >> and one of the things we need in africa is for our leaders to be told where they go wrong. and to be told where they go
right. >> reporter: from the african-american u.s. president came some tough love and encouragement that perhaps only the son of an african could have delivered. and as you can see there, the president was very sobered when he made that visit to cape coast to the slave station there. he said it reminded him just last month to buchenwald, the nazi concentration camp, evidence of man's capacity for committing what he said was great evil. and you can sense it was even more emotional for the president being there in those slave dungeons. with his young daughters, sasha and malia. bill, kate? >> great trip. imagine seeing the world from the eyes of sasha and malia. meet the pope and visit, as he mentioned, the slave dungeons of ghana in the same weekend. >> yeah. coming up on "good morning america" -- blogging for bucks, and moms hit the web to share parenting secrets. should they be getting paid for good reviews of products?
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could you throw a baseball 60 feet 6 inches? >> the president is about to throw out the ceremonial first ball. but chemical this out. >> not so easy. that's the former mayor of cincinnati. there's the lovely mariah carey. i don't know why you'd dress like that. >> oh. >> there you go. carl lewis, the former olympian. >> oh, no! it's just not that simple. >> mark wahlberg. yeah, our john berman goes to test his arm and his mettle when we come back. en we come back.
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♪ ♪ that is the breathtaking coast of northern ireland, the giants causeway. and our "weekend window" opens this morning to those stunning cliff and rock formations. you've been to this place? >> i have. you kind of step on these rocks all the way out to the water. beautiful. >> good morning, america, i'm bill weir. >> i'm kate snow. it is sunday, july 12th. some of the hottest bloggers online, people who write internet blogs, are writing about chocolate milk and chicken pox. we're talking about mommy bloggers. some have such loyal followers that companies are sponsoring them, sending them free products and paying them in exchange for a plug. is it legal? is it ethical? we'll get into that. and the perils of the first pitch. every president since william howard taft has thrown one out. some more successfully than others. barack obama gets his first shot
at tuesday night's all-star game. we sent our own john berman to a minor league ballpark to see just how difficult this is. maybe pick up some tip for mr. obama. >> give us a heads-up on that. first, we turn to david wright in for ron claiborne. good morning, guys. at the running of the bulls in pamplona, spain, four runners seriously gored when a lone bull and began to attack. seven others were injured. officials in pakistan say five police officers and a forestry agent were killed. unknown gunmen targeted the patrol that was checking out the report of a bullet-ridden body. in new delhi, india, three workers died under the collapse of a bridge under construction. the accident happened when workers tried to lift heavy, concrete slabs. nasa is inspecting the space shuttle "endeavour." nasa scrubbed the planned launch because of light fling.
and in california, more closed-door talks today as state lawmakers try to complete a deal to eliminate $26 billion worth ever budget caps. they say that a compromise plan may be worked out this week with governor schwarzenegger. and a new world record in phoenix, arizona, and many other areas across the country. it was the world attempt at a new category, largest skinny dip across north america. that's a quick look at the headlines. over to sandhya patel for a look of the weather. >> good morning, all. let's check out what it looks like in the pacific north west. much cooler with showers. 68 degrees, 71 in portland. as you notice, inland areas will be warm. still 93 in boise, spokane, 86 degrees. here's your back-to-work forecast as you look over orlando, they could have problems again in the florida area with the shuttle launch. showers and thunderstorms. severe storms in the northern rockies and northern and central
part of the plai >> this weather report has been brought to you by walgreens. kate? >> sandhya, thanks. let's do some numbers now. there are 83 million mothers waking up across the country this morning. 72 million of them use the internet all the time. an an estimated 60% of their conversations online are the same chatter buzzing on playgrounds all over, including the mention of brands or products. leading the conversation are 11,000 mommy bloggers. please are mothers soundsing off online about everything from diapers, chicken pox or postpartum depression.
here's what you might not know. a lot of these mommy bloggers are cashing in. >> what is it? i hope it's fun. >> reporter: she keeps her mailman busy. she's the mother of two behind classymommy.com, a website she created to help other moms navigate the crush of new products for kid. within months, it started. first mom inventors, then bigger and bigger companies started sending her stuff for free. how many companies right now are sending you products or paying you in some way or another? >> you know, i think as far as companies sending me products, it would be too many to count? >> hundreds? >> in the last three years, probably hundreds. >> reporter: and now three companies are actually paying her. "better homes & gardens" gave her a $500 budget for product lines from walmart. for her new kitchen. and sponsor of healthy choice. companies will pay anywhere from 30 bucks to hundreds of dollars for posts. from her home here in philadelphia, colleen is
reaching on average about 2,000 readers a day. most of them are moms who trust the opinions of a fellow mom. for companies, it's cheap and effective marketing. but for moms who read the blogs they feel deeptive. christine shermer was relying on her advice on which baby carrier to buy. >> there was a particular carrier that one blogger recommended be the best one. lo and behold, i found out recently, that she has a relationship with that company. that makes more sense. >> reporter: bloggers like colleen are careful. she even consulted a lawyer. but she didn't have to. >> there's no laws. you're not breaking the law if you accept a free playstation and say you love that playstation. >> reporter: the federal trade commission is now considering expanding false advertising guidelines to include blog testimonials. >> that's alarming for something that you're doing for a mom who is getting a free box of cereal or yogurt.
but they could be liable. >> but unless things change, it's sort of reader beware right now. joining us is one of the pioneers of one of the mommy blogospheres. heather armstrong runs a blog out. she supports her entire family with deuce.com. she's joining us from skype, i believe, heather, in your kitchen. good morning. you just had a baby four months ago, congratulations on that. >> yeah, she's asleep, finally. >> keep it down, everybody. also looking at your website here, i see sprint and mcdonald's banner ads so i know you're getting paid through that. but do you also accept any payment for your content? >> no, i don't do any of that sort of thing, no, absolutely not. >> and why? >> i have a special relationship with my readers. i had a very bad bout of postpartum depression about five years ago, and i credit them with saving my life. and i have -- my relationship and my blog is based on whether or not they can trust me.
and so, doing that sort of thing, i think, sort of threatens that relationship. >> so, you think there's a line there, sounds like that you won't cross. personally, do you think others should pay attention to that, too? >> i think others should pay attention. and there should be full disclosure. because it sort of threatens the medium. i think mommy blogging is built on a relationship between the mommy blogger and the audience because we're sharing our stories and we sort of trust each other. if you don't disclose that you're being paid or receiving gifts it sort of threatens that relationship. >> there's a trip recently, a bunch of moms went to sea world. all expenses paid. really lavish trip paid for by sea world. have you ever done anything like that, a trip? >> very early on when i started advertising. i took a trip to amsterdam. that was paid for by actually amsterdam -- like a holland
travel bureau. but as my website has grown, and i think a lot of mothers need to sort of pay attention to this, they're giving away free advertising. when if they counted the advertising dollars that they should get, the tradeoff isn't worth it. >> you think it's a better model to do what you're doing and be out front with it? >> right. if they would accept actual advertising dollars, they'd probably make more money. >> do you consider yourself a journalist, heather? >> well, i journaled the goings-on in my living room. that's about it. >> in the past four weeks, by the way, i've been reading your twitter page and your blog. wow. you don't get to stop, do you? >> there is no break. when you do this professionally or a hobby, you don't get a break, no. >> so the journalist question, if you are journaling your life, do you think you should be under the same rules as a journalist is?
>> we, like i said, i think most mommy bloggers who are writing about products probably don't maybe know the rules of journalism. and maybe don't know the ethical, you know, ins and outs of things. but i think as this grows and gets bigger, i absolutely do think so. like i said, the relationship is what you build. >> and it is growing so much. lastly, i wonder how easy is it to get into this world, to become a mommy blogger? >> it's really actually just like the click of a button. the entry is very small. you can sign up on an account for a blog in less than probably 30 seconds. and you can get into it immediately. >> but it takes time to build up the kind of audience that you have now? >> yeah, i've been doing this for 8 1/2 years. yeah, in order to get enough readership to make money, you have to work really, really hard at it. >> heather, we thank you so much for your time. take care of that little one. >> going back to bed. >> okay. go back to bed. we'll be right back. coming up on "good morning
america" -- forget international diplomacy. perhaps the toughest job for any president, throwing out the first pitch. our own john berman tests his arm and his courage. and our "weekend window" opens to the coastline of northern ireland to bring you the stunning and strange rock formations of the giants causeway. coastlines of the giants causeway.
so, tuesday night, president obama is set to throw out the ceremonial first pitch, right, at baseball's all-star game in st. louis. it's a presidential perk, if you will -- >> right. or is it? >> -- that can give even the most powerful leader sweaty palms. abc's john berman tells us why. >> reporter: presidents sign bills, wage wars, negotiate treaties but one of their most pivotal duties? pivotal but perilous -- the first pitch. every president since william howard taft in 1910 has done it, through global conflicts, recessions, resignations. >> i think it doesn't matter who the president is, if they're a sports fan, throwing out the
first pitch for any kind of baseball game is one of the most wonderful treats a president can have. >> the president of the united states. >> reporter: in 2001, in the wake of september 11, george w. bush hits the perfect strike at yankee stadium. >> the next morning, he came in, he said to me, no matter what happens during the course of my presidency, that is going to one of the highlights. >> reporter: it's essential americana. essential, but not easy. take it from cincinnati mayor mark mallory. >> -- not young enough to remember -- >> reporter: or mariah carey. or nine-time gold medalist carl lewis. >> oh! >> reporter: yes, even george w. bush, the guy who threw that perfect strike, threw a public stinker his first time out as president. how does one avoid shame? i'm throwing out the first pitch today. i want to know if you have advice. you make it look so easy. i set out to throw the first
pitch in walk tupawtucket, rhod island, home of the red sox aaa farm team. hey, you have to start somewhere. my only goal, avoid complete humiliation. catcher mark wagner gave me tips. >> take it or make it man. act like you really want to do it. >> reporter: his other advice, aim high and practice first. >> what about the tongue, wagging the tongue or anything? >> yeah, get the tongue out there. yep. now, we're talking. that's intimidating, too. everybody likes that. >> reporter: but would it be enough, with the crowd watching and the pressure on. enough to make me look less like mariah carey and more like mariano rivera. the moment of truth. the pitch -- and a strike. at least that's what i'm calling it. look again. despite advancing age and general lack of coordination, not a hint of embarrassment. take that, mariah. president obama, you're up.
for "good morning america," the most relieved person on the planet, john berman, abc news. >> all right, john. >> let's not go that far. >> come on, he did pretty well. >> before he gets too cocky, the definition of a change-up is an intentionally thrown slow ball, right? no, good job, john. you did us proud. we got a softball game coming up. >> okay, he can be on the team. >> "weekend window." "weekend window" opening up to the glorious coast of the northern ireland. we'll be right back.
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well, this morning, a part of the emerald isle that you may not know. our "weekend window" opens in high definition to northern ireland, a popular tourist destination. the spectacular giants causeway. >> i lived in northern ireland all my life, and no matter how many times i come here, i find it stunning. i think it's a natural beauty. the fact at that sea's constantly changing. the wonderful size of the stones. and the story behind the causeway. the legend says that the great giant build this castle across to scotland to fight the rivals. a geologist will tell you
another story. ♪ >> approximately 65 million years ago, cracks in the earth's crust, lava starts to pour out. and it allows it to form into very regular shapes. and the reason it forms into very regular shapes is the rock is baseled. and because of the minerals it contains always forms into regular shapes. >> giants causeway is not just the actual causeway itself, it's also the whole of the coastline. >> i always tell people that this is undoubtedly god's chosen country in the north coast of north america. spectacular rock formations. beautiful clear water, really something for everyone. this is the only rope bridge that crosses the atlantic. anywhere in europe, by a net that's only 20 meters across the
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