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>> announcer: starting right now on abc abc's "this week," breaking news a daring raid by the elite delta force inside syria that just killed a key isis leader could his captured wife reveal crucial information. mystery on the tracks. . the fbi now investigating. did a projectilee hit the train before it crashed. why he could spend decades behind bars despite that dramatic death penalty ruling and 2016 surprises. republicans turning on jeb bush's iraq misstep, democrats piling on barack obama on trade. mitch mcconnell and dianne feinstein are weighing in.
"this week" with george stephanopoulos begins now. and we have lots to get to this morning. new developments in that amtrak crash, the fbi on the case. but first that daring delta force raid deep inside syria, they set out to capture abu sayyaf, he was killed in the fire fight but u.s. forces did capture his wife and key intelligence and terry moran reporting onnen the raid and terry, this was a risky operation. >> reporter: it certainly was, good morning george it was high-risk operations sending these american troops deep into the heart of isis-controlled territory in syria. the intelligence was good enough, the target valuable enough and the delta forces lethal enough to roll the diagnosisdice here. the daring raid happened overnight friday. the delta forces taking off from iraq. heading deep into syria.
capture and interrogate abu sayyaf. former special forces officer. >> this is not just another person. >> reporter: counterterrorism official tells abc news sayyaf is believed to be the isis leader to be given american hostage kay j la mueller as a forced bride or slave. the question on many minds after thousands of air strikes on isis targets why risk a dangerous ground operation. >> we wanted to capture him, no question about that. he could have given a lot of information about their whole financial structure. >> reporter: but fate would have otherwise. a fierce fire fight. defending the building using women and children as human shields, the pentagon said.
>> it happens in close quarter battles. they'll duck under their rifle. >> reporter: abu sayyaf killed in the fire jchbfight. his wife captured. all american personnel returned safely after scooping up laptop computers that could prove to be an intelligence wind fall isis has been making gains in recent weeks in recent. it sends a unmistakable message to isis leaders, u.s. intelligence is improving and they're not safe anywhere. more on this from michael morrell. thank you for joining us this morning. take us inside the decisionmaking this morning. is it a success even though abu
sayyaf killed not captured? >> so george really important here, the real value here is taking a guy off the battle field who's incredibly important to the organization to funding it, to running it very close to the senior leadership taking him off the battlefield very important. it would have been great to keep him alive but his wife worked closely with him. she'll be able to tell us a lot. those computers, that information we got is going to help us understand the organization betterer, unravel it. >> in your new book you explain some of the intelligence files picked up in 2014 deep inside syria, we learned about the ambitions of isis there. >> two documents in that cache
was is how effective it can be. and how you make bubonic plague and used it that's us. the religious justification for using weapons of maz destruction. >> as terry mentioned, isis taking hold of ramadi right now, what is your judgment on where the war stands right now and the most important thing that the united states needs to be doing? >> so george number one, we have taken back about 25% of the territory that isis took in iraq, still a lot more work to be done but we are doing well in iraq, it's syria where we need to do better there aren't troops on the ground in syria, there's not a way to take back territory in syria right now, we'll have to take back territory in syria as well as iraq. >> what is your greatest fear from isis? >> what we just talked about, an
attack in the home land using some sort of weapons of mass destruction. if they get a safe haven and they get it over the long term, those are the kind of things we have to worry about we turn now to that deadly amtrak crash the fbi has joined the investigation from and. here's abc's did david kerley with the new developments. >> reporter: what happened in the last moments of amtrak 188, the train quickly accelerated in its last minute barrelling down the tracks knot of philadelphia at more than twice the speed of the corner ahead. captured on this footage obtained from wpvi. a flash as the train careened off the track. now an account of a projectile hitting the windshield. >> she also believed that she heard her engineer say something
about his train being struck by something. >> reporter: the fbi's been asked to join the investigation to examine the damage to the train's windshield and reports of other trains in that area being struck at about the same time. >> an unknown object made contact with that train, shattering the windshield. >> reporter: even if the amtrak train was hit by something, how does that explain the sudden acceleration. it's at its speed limit 75 miles per hour. just 16 seconds before derailment more than 100 miles per hour. reaching that curve, the brakes are applied but it's too late. the engineer tells investigators he has no memories of the crash itself. shut down part of the busiest rail corridor in the country. before reopening the federal railroad administration is ordering amtrak to take some
immediate safety cautions. calling for inspections of curved tracks and increased speed limit sign age. it doesn't have the newest technology that could actually stop a speeding train. he now promises that technology. >> by the end of the year it will not happen again. >> reporter: when you heard this train was 106 miles an hour in 60 mile an hour what did you think. >> there was a sickening in my stomach. >> reporter: the railroads and the rail lines say they won't meet that deadline. >> okay david, thanks very much. more on this from the ntsb lead investigator robert sumwalt, what can you tell you about this idea of a projectile hitting this train?
>> you know, this idea of something striking the train is one of many things we're looking at right now. we interviewed the amtrak -- we interviewed the dispatchers and we listened to the dispatched tape. we heard no communication from the engineer to the center there was nothing hit. >> one theory nothing reported early on. you have spoken now with the engineer, he's remembered so little, any closer to figure out the cause of the crash? >> at this stage, george we're in the fact-finding stage of the investigation. we have called for forward-facing cameras for a long time. >> have you been able to rule anything out? i spoke with the engineer's lawyer the other day, he said that the engineer was not
drinking, not texting at the time, his phone was locked away have you been able to confirm all that? >> we have conducted a drug and alcohol testing. we have requested the cell phone records as we do for any transportation accident. we slowly start, we start gathering the information and slowly start ruling things out. >> what's the most important thing you need to know right now? >> i think we need to know that the ntsb is conducting a very thorough investigation. we'll get to the bottom of this. >> but we just heard it may not happen by the end of the year. >> well you're right and that's very troubling to the ntsb. we have seen countless accidents over the years that could have been prevented had positive train control been implemented. pierre thomas covers the fbi
and dan abrams. pierre describe the fbi's role in this. >> they can help solve the mystery of the cracked glass. they'll work with their ntsb counterparts to look at the window to determine if the cracks were caused by the derailment or projectile. they can use high-powered microscope to peer into the crack cracks that may offer clues. the other two trains that were possibly hit that night and in addition the fbi will canvas the entire area to see if there was anything suspicious going on. >> there's criminal and civil. criminal, could the engineer be charged with the crime?
theoretically yes, but they would have to find that he did something wrong. recklessness or intentional conduct. they'll look at that. number two, civil, all of these people that are injured are going to sue. interesting, in 1997 there was a law passed that's there a cap of $200 million total for all of the victims together in a train accident. considering you're talking about hundreds of victims here $200 million, you could argue might not cover all of the medical expenses in this case. that's something that will be under the microscope that particular law. >> certainly, while we have you here tsarnaev sentenced to
death. but a long appeals process. >> the best thing he could get is a new trial. very unlikely he'll get a new trial. what's interesting when you read the verdict form three of these jurors bought into their argument. he was under the spell of his brother. yet, despite that these three jurors in addition to the nine others, all agreed to sentence him to death. >> is that grounds for an appeal? >> but expect the defense to focus on those jurors meaning when they say that there were legal r errors in the case and as a result we should get a new trial, they'll highlight the fact that those three jurors seem willing to accept the heart of the defense. >> okay, dan, thanks very much. some news about me, over the last several years, i have made donations to charities including the clirnton foundation a
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back now with the race to the white house and a tough week for jeb bush struggling to answer questions about the iraq war, raising new questions about his readiness for the campaign trial. abc's jonathan karl covers how he's recovering from the misstep. >> reporter: on the campaign trial in iowa yesterday, jeb bush took new heat on his brother's record on iraq. >> the facts that we're there for the president was grounded on faulty intelligence, but the power of hind sight isn't givinge ing to us. >> would you have authorized the invasion. >> i would have. >> reporter: the next day bush said he misheard the question. >> i didn't whatever i heard it was translated knowing what you knew then what would you do.
>> while he was clarifying his republican rivals were coming forward. >> no one we would have gone to war with iraq. >> even at the time i thought invading iraq was wrong. >> reporter: jeb bush said in an interview this week, he e would have authorized the invasion of iraq. >> reporter: by the end of the week bush finally came up with his direct answer. >> knowing what we know now what would you have done? >> i wouldn't have gone in iraq. >> reporter: iraq threatened to cast a long shadow over jeb bush's campaign. the most unpopular decision of his brother's presidency. criticizing family tli this week he said is a hard thing he has
doing. but this week's iraq drama raises questions for bush not just about the war but the readiness of a campaign before he's even entered the race. for "this week," jonathan karl abc news new york. headaches for democrats this week fighting among themselves over president obama's free trade plan it's getting bitter and personnel, with everyone choosing sides except hillary clinton. >> reporter: an embarrassing political defeat handed down by his own party. president obama's 12-country free-trade deal initially blocked by senate democrats, a resounding setback, some calling it down right open rebellion. >> we witnessed the democratic senate shut down the ability to debite. >> reporter: two days later,
obama cleared a key legislation hurdle. though the president is still struggling to gain support in both houses. the fight is not over. >> we can't keep pushing through trade deals that benefit multinational companies at the expense of workers. >> reporter: more than obama's legacy on the line, there is an election with more voices with republicans and democrats joining the chorus asking, where is hillary clinton? she spear headed the nation's effort in asia. >> the idea is to create a new high standard for trade. raise labor and environmental standards and drive growth across the region. >> reporter: but so far, presidential candidate hillary clinton remains noncommittal. >> well any trade deal has to
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i'd like to thank the president, too, no you're not hearing things. president obama has done his country a service by taking on his base and pushing back on some of the more ridiculous rhetoric we have heard. >> and there's the senate majority leader this thursday mitch mcconnell he joins us. thank you for joining us this morning. this is president's top legislation, this trade policy. what is it going to take to get it pass? >> we'll pass it later this
week. the president has done an excellent job on this. i point out to my members who are somewhat squeamish by giving the president a power on any issue, given his expensive view that is a trade promotion authority not just for president obama but for the next president as well, this is a six-year trade promotion authority bill that will give the next president an opportunity to enter into additional trade agreements with other countries around the world, we know america is a big winner we lower barriers to our products abroad it also has a foreign policy and defense component. lot of the countryies in asia are a little apprehensive about not only chinese economic domination but chinese military domination. they would like to get closer to us and this is a great opportunity for us to do that as well as to benefit america and create more jobs here in this
country. >> i saw your smile when you discussed the president obama. you described your relationship with the president right now, an out of body experience how do you build on it? do you want to build on it? >> we got a new senate now, we're actually voting again, we voted more than a hundred times in the first quarter this year last year only 15 roll calls the entire year. we passed a budget four of the last five years. the senate didn't pass a budget which is required by the law. the senate is getting back to work and what i'm doing is focusing on things which there is bipartisan agreement. we have a cyber security bill that's coming through. elementary and secondary education came out of that committee overwhelmingly.
we're focusing on things that we can agree on and make progress for the country. all of those will probably come to the fore on spending bills. they want to spend more on defense and they want to spend more on everything. we don't have a personality problem, we just had differences on issues. there are some things that we agree on and i try to focus on things that we agree on. >> one area where you appear to be at odds is this nsa telephone surveillance program, the white house backs a bill passed be i the house which would help telephone companies keep the records and the government collection. why are you worried about it? >> actually the bill passed the house does not require the telephone companies to keep the records. i figure the house bill will end
the program. there are plenty of safeguards in this program. no one is routinely listening into your telephone conversations to intercept any actual discussion they have to go to the court, get a court order, this has been a very important part of our effort to defend the homeland since 9/11. we know that terrorists overseas are trying to recruit people in our country, to commit atrocity in our country, like in the boston marathon massacre i don't want us to go dark in effect. i'm afraid that the house-based program will be tend of the program. >> your own senate colleague rand paul wants to end the
program. he said i will fight tooth and nail to stop a blanket reauthorization of this attack on our freedoms. how do you respond to that? >> well rand paul and i agree with most things we don't agree with this. he doesn't like the house-passed bill either. i think it's an important tool if we're going to have the maximum opportunity to defend our people here at home. and i don't think that the house bill does that i think it basically basically leads us to the end of the program. george i would rather to see a couple a month extension of the program, that this new bill that passed can work. this is a security of the country we're talking about here this is no small matter. we see it on display on almost a weekly basis. earlier in the program, we
talked about the raid that was carried out in syria, that was over there, what i'm worried about is what happens over here this program has been an important tool in helping to protect the home jnland. >> are you confident that raid was a success? >> the president has done a good job with these special operation s s-type missions. they tend not to favor generally speaking capture and interrogation, although it's good that the wife of this terrorist was captured and will be interrogated. i have been just stressed about the willingness to release prisoners at guantanamo. this is a defense matter. what you want to do is you want to capture people interrogate them and try to prevent the next atrocity. i wished we had more emphasis on
capturing, detaining and interrogation then on strikes, al these strikes are important. >> finally, sir, you mentioned that you and rand paul agree on most things. he's your candidate for president. 30-second case for him being president? >> he's reached out to different kons tunesies. he's very appealing to young people. in order to be competitive in presidential elections, we have to carry more voters than we have in recent years. rand has brought a new brand of republicanism. i wish him well. >> senator mcconnell, thank you. >> thank you. let's turn to dianne feinstein. thank you for joining us this morning. you just heard senator mcconnell on that raid inside syria this
weekend. your assessment. >> my assessment is that it was a success, the one-two punch that we should do more and i believe that if we're not going to put troops on the ground then we've got to use our special operations forces. to go in and collect intelligence also be able to capture people that might be able to be helpful. this is the second time that this has been tried in syria, the first time it was not successful that was to rescue hostages. but, now, this was, i think, a picture-perfect raid everything went according to plan. but, the demise of the principal, obviously, took place when the aim was to capture, as i understand it but i'm very worried about the islamic state. it is now in at least 12 countries. around north africa around the middle east.
it is organized. it is an impressive fighting force. it occupies territory, it runs a government and most importantly it is evil. it annihilates in the most brutal of ways. we have to get serious about what we're going to do not only to contain but to eradicate this force. >> let's talk about trade. some scrambled coalitions on this force. do you agree with senator mcconnell? >> i support the trade bill. i'm a born and raised californian. on the rim of the largest trading basin of the world nothing is going to decrease the trade between countries along the pacific ocean. it surpassed the atlantic several years ago, therefore the kind of trade, free trade, the ability to have enforcement
mechanisms to prevent anti-dumping is very important. and that's why this will do. the enforcements section and the trade assistance section which passed the senate with more than 70 votes is vital to this. with the three combined there is a very good bill. i want to straighten one thing out and that is that most people think that this is a bill for corporate america, in california 95% of the trade is carried out by companies and businesses of less than 500 people. so this is economically upward upwardly mobile jobs for people and i think it's important that the trade authority be given to the president. there's a micro reason america
loosens its leadership in this very stimulating theater of trade. >> hillary clinton has been criticized for dodging debate. should she come out and declare where she stands? >> i think it would be very helpful, i think it's been type mied by our party in a way that's most unfortunate on the jobs issue, trade creates jobs it creates the ability of people to become economic upwardly mobile people. if it's enforced -- the problem is with the enforcement and providing the resources to do it correctly. >> senator feinstein, thank you very much for joining us. next the 2016 shakeup, how democrats view democrats and how republicans view republicans and
and the week jeb bush has had, several different answers on how to handle the iraq war. you worked with his brother. what did you see from watching jeb this week? what was that all about? >> if you look at the span of the field and pick out the most fundamental question they would have to answer? this would be the most fundamental question jeb would have to answer. he made a mistake, i think he misheard it. the handling of it in the aftermath i think it's a real vul neblt. he hasn't come to terms with he's the candidate that everyone thought was the dominant candidate. >> you're pretty close to jeb bush, that first question he didn't hear correctly, why so many takes? >> you know, because i think everything he said in each of those days was true. it's hard for him to be critical
of his brother to prop himself up. i think it's true that he thinks it's a disservice to the people who served in iraq to talk about it in that way and i just think, frankly, you know what else he's human and campaigns make candidates and i think it got him, you know he's also a smart guy and i doubt think it's a dog that's going to bite him twice. >> except other dogs will bite. and that's the fundamental question, not so much iraq although that's a bad one, because iraq remains so in unpopular. >> jon karl to matt's point, i think jeb bush was hoping this huge war chest would scare a lot of people out the race that's not happening. >> the governor of ohio is
virtually certain to run for president. he had a meeting with top aides over last weekend he told them to go forward and his family is now onboard and it is now much more likely than not that kasich will enter this race. >> these debates are going to be so much fun. we're going to watch this whole big cast of characters up there debating. >> i think the fundamental thing about this iraq has become our generation's vietnam. also in the end, jeb bush will have to decide -- i have six brothers i'm very loyal to my brothers. when they're wrong you have to say. jeb bush will have to come to terms with that in the course of this race. >> he was already so down -- he's broken through nowhere. of course we're still early. he's not an official candidate
yet. there's no grounds for a jeb bush candidacy. >> it's very early. it was only a few months ago we were all having a cow because hillary clinton said that she needed to pay her houses she was flat-broke. candidates do make mistakes. on the republican side we have a vigorous debate going on and it's going to be a very tough situation. >> all of the republican candidates in iowa yesterday, raising the issue that hillary clinton hasn't answered questions by the press. >> someone needs to ask hillary clinton if she ever takes any questions. >> she'll have to answer some questions. >> how can you run for president of the united states never be asked a question. >> well but, i don't think anybody votes on whether a candidate answers questions or not.
that's part of the process. at some point she'll have to engage absolutely. she can't keep doing this. >> jeb bush was overly generous she's answered nine questions on your most generous count. but, you know she's going to need to get out there and do this. what her folks say, she'll have a big campaign event, big rally, in june after that we'll see her taking some questions. >> hillary in the end this is being too cute by half whatever the strategy is you're going to protect her, she's not going to be able to make mistakes. ultimately she has a similar problem that jeb has, right? the sins of the brother. she has to deal with the brothers of her employer and her employer is barack obama. >> and her husband. 12k3w4r >> and trade. >> this trade issue is a real issue.
supported the trade promotion authority, clearly not engaging now. democrats saying it's time for her to come out and take a stand. >> i think they would like her to come out and take a stand on a lot of issues. the washington post has a ticking clock going on their website, up to 37,200 minutes since the last time she answered a question, a presidential campaign is about scrutiny. she visited brooklyn ate a salad, the last article i read. >> it this is a good opportunity for her to say, absolutely i have been secretary of state, i know how important trade is to this country. i know that exports mean jobs.
>> the way her people look at this, much more tempting to go the opposite direction. for clinton the politics of this primary period are virtually exactly the same for a general election. she needs to rally that base in a general election. >> i think on this. i take a different tack than a lot of different republicans on this. i think these trade pacts -- no income increase through any trade agreement that's benefitted the middle class in this country. >> you tell that to the doctors in new orleans -- >> coming from ohio coming from industrial america which has suffered greatly from these trade agreements if i were a republican -- >> she needs to -- i disagree with you on her rallying her base on this. just the way the republicans get in trouble when they go too far to the right in their primaries,
if she goes too far to the left in her primaries she'll annihilate -- >> she has no fan base to rally in. if she comes out in favor -- she doesn't have the progressive base. if she comes out in favor of this she's taking on the biggest unspoken opponent she has, her name is elizabeth warren. >> looking at ultimately the way she wins is getting the obama coalition back to the polls. she needs to rally that base. this would be a chance to distance herself from obama without annihilating the base. >> are we beyond the point where presidential candidates have to play to the middle? >> well the interesting thing about that the ultimately the answer is no. no, it's not only about playing your base. the fastest group of voters in
america are the independent voters in the country. they're the least engaged. ultimately, if you look at where this election is going to be decided, why this trade is important, it's going to be in the industrial heartland, in the midwest, among independent voters and that's why this trade thing is so important in the course of this. >> she has to get it right in iowa wisconsin. >> she's running very closely in those states right now. she doesn't have the same margin in the swing states that she does in the country as a whole. >> the truth is this is a very strange dynamic, there is no dynamic fwrier mary. there's no martin o'malley is running. running at the end of the day, she can't do at this point is antagonize the progressives. >> that's all true until someone
gets 30%. someone is going to get a lift at some point. in what exists. they'll get a lift and when that person gets a lift elizabeth warren is going to take another look at this race. >> if elizabeth warren does get into the race she'll have the same effect as jim mccarthy you know, she can't win it. >> there's no indication right now. >> no there's no point. what would be the point. >> a minute left i was surprised by this jury in boston on friday, death penalty for tsarnaev. >> i was surprised, too. conservatives are for the death penalty. and think the death penalty 20
years from now, people that are for the death penalty in the same people against gay marriage. >> i hope he's right. it hasn't been the case. but you know, now that you have doctors say they won't partake in it it's raising the debate. you're hearing it among religious people. >> this appeals process is going to keep it in the news for a long time. >> it is. but look there are some crimes that are so heinous and affect our national psyche people are okay with the death penalty. it's a federal crime where it's allowed. 12k3w4r thank you all very much. sunday spotlight up next. before the break, listen to our martha raddatz, a proud mom speaking at the graduation of her son jake. >> i will admit i have been
agonizing over the speech filled with self-doubt and fear, my experience in war zones aside. last week, jake offered some calming thoughts mom, he said no one will remember what you say anyway. as you choose opportunities and ideas the people you work with and those who choose to love animate, inspire and energize you, will define the quality of your life's ex
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bridges, just outside the city limits. there, they'll have find tutors and most importantly people who listen and care. >> it helps you to be better person. >> you learn new things every day. >> reporter: what the program really means, meet renee johnson, who raised her kids as a single mom. >> a city child doesn't have a lot of options of stuff to do. it's either sit in the house or basically go outside and get in trouble. bridges is a lifesaver. >> reporter: for her daughter the challenge of inner-city life is inescapable. >> you're in the middle of everything. >> reporter: since 2005 bridges has worked with nearly 200 students starting in third grade, it's a year-round effort even in summers, activities are tailored to individual's needs.
>> we do math reading, we do swimming. >> reporter: for the fourth and fifth graders we met on wednesday there are sports reading. and help with home work. >> our goal is to stick with these students to the end of high school. and make sure we deliver them and having some great opportunities for their future. >> reporter: most students make >> it i'm going to college. >> reporter: a class of 20 in elementary school typically retains 13 to 17 young people through the end of high school and last year with s.a.t. prep 11 of the 13 seniors in program went on to college. she's on that program this week. in fact she's going to williams college on a full scholarship and a dream, she wants to become a doctor having worked at a nearby hospital last year thanks to bridges. and he has this piece of advice. >> cherish each moment.
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>> i'm monica malpass on "inside story." was the amtrak tragedy in port richmond preventable? would more money from congress have made a difference? let's get the inside story. good morning. i'm monica malpass. welcome to "inside story." let's meet our insiders. today we want to welcome terry madonna with the f&m poll. good morning, sir. christine flowers, attorney and journalist. welcome back. jan ting, law professor from temple. good morning to you. jeff jubelirer, communications executive. >> hi, monica. >> good morning, everyone. let's talk, obviously, about the amtrak tragedy in port richmond. we still don't know so many things, but what we do know is that, apparently, the track was fine, the signals were fine, there was no rush to get to another stop or a station, the train was running on time. the engineer is giving an interview. they will hear many more answers as soon as they know that component. but let's talk about the funding