♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- jessica biel, star of "crazy rich asians", actress awkwafina, creator of "disenchantment", writer matt groening, featuring the 8g band with fred armisen. ♪ [ cheers and applae ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyer >> seth: good evening, everybody. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how everybody doing tonight [ cheers and applause ] that's great to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. former white house aide omarosmanigault released a fourth secret recording today. apparently she h the microphone somewhere trump would never find it -- in a salad.[ ughter ]

that's right, omarosa released a fourth secret recording today. d this is cool. this one features a verse from ca ]i b. [ laught according to former "apprentice" conttant, tom arnold, he has heard tapes of president trump calling his son eric trump the "r" word and calling his daughter tiffany, "uh -- vanessa?" [ laughter ] democrats and some republicans are voicing concerns aut president trump's proposed el the y parade and event may come off as totalitarian. you think? [ laughter ] that's like someone being worried that the pride parade is going to come off as a little bit gay. [ laughter ] that's whathey were going for. [ laughter ]en prestrump had lunch with vice president mike pence today. he didn't mean to. he just asked a waiter for a side of mayo and they brought pence over. [ lahter ] president trump tweeted today

that the is nothing that he would want more for the country than true freedom of the press. and then even the twitter bird roed its eyes. [ laughter ] that graphic worked out a lot better than i thought it would. all day long --la hter ] all day long, i had my doubts and then it rolled its eyes and i was -- m happy. [ light laughter ] "the washington post" published an op-ed today titled "possiblys trump's stuptweet ever." though they'll probably publish it again tomorrow, too. [ laughter ] eh, save that one. [ light laughter ] according to a new study roughly 20% of millennial parents have changed or er seriously cons changing their baby's name based on what internet domain names were available at the time. "don't make the same mistake my parents made," said s. pornhub coll . laughter ] it's a family na

[ laughter ] and finally, you know, with er hing going on, sometimes we don't get the details about everything. and there's been a lot of talk lately about 3-d printed guns, which if you don't know, are gunshat people print themselves at home using a 3-d printer. but the technology and the laws surrounding those guns are pretty confusing. luckily, i saw a coml last night that explains it all. take a look. [ laughter ] >> oh, gin. >> i enjoy our little get togethers. >> well, you know what i don't enjoy? >> what? >> not feeling safe in my own home. >> it's the state of the world today. >> anything could happen. >> that's why i'm going to do something about it. >> what's that? >> i'm going to print my own 3-d gun. >> well that sounds interesting. >> wait, how do you print a gun? >> it's simple. a 3-d printer liquefies thermal plastics and then lays it down in a successive layer and a specific pattern dictated by the object you want to print. >> that does sound simple. >> no, it doesn't. [ light laughter ] >> and you know you can trust a

3-d printer to make a gun, because look what a good job it on this coffee mob. [ snap ] [ light laughter ] >> oh, now how much does one of these 3-d printers cost anyway? >> are they expensive? >> no, they're very affordable. >> really? >> yes. they range anywhere from $800 to $10,000. >> that is affordable. >> are you serious? a real gun costs like $100. >> but if you're printing a gun, you're gonna want to go with a more expensive 3-d printer. >> why? >> because if you don't make the gun correctly -- >> yeah. >> it could break apart. >> then what? >> and then explode in your hands when you fire it. >> fun. >> nope! >> now, is printing a gun even legal? >> well, the federal government passed a law saying that it's legal to post blue prints online that tell you how to make a 3-d gun, so yes. but then a federal judge passed an injunction saying you can't post any more blueprints, so no. but, no one said you have to take down the blueprints that are already online. so who knows? >> well that does sound cut and dry. [ laughter ] >> that sounds like an ethical minefield. >> you're funny. [ laughter ] >> but, barb, do you even know how to use a gun? >> how hard can it be?

i use a car every day and i didn't get any special training for that or even a license. >> you don't have a license? >> no. >> we car pool to work. [ laughter ] >> you two gals have jobs? >> this is very dangerous. >> not as dangerous as not having a gun. >> i have a gun. i keep it right here -- uh-oh. oh well. [ laughter ] >> i swear to god, margaret. look, barb, this is a terrible idea. please don't do this. >> too late. [ light laughter ] is there a mrs. 3-d printer? i'll have my very own gun in just 37 short hours. that's enough time to beat you two in another game of gin. >> oh. [ laughter ] >> this message brought to you by big bob's gun and knife show. get a gun in five minutes or less, guaranteed. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: we have a great shot. for you toni she is emmy nominated for her

role on usa's "the sinner." jessica biel is here tonight.ne hefilm -- [ cheers and applause ]h "crazy rians," is in theaters now. awkwafina joins us. [ applause ] and he is the creator of "the simpsons", "futurama", ando his new animated series on netflix, "disenchantment." matt groening joins us tonight. [ cheers and applause ]w. so fantastic s we're very excited about all our guests. before we get to tha president trump's former confidant, omarosa, released yet another necret tape today, as trump's legal team threathe special counsel in the russia investigation. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: as the russia probe eatensifies, trump's legal is getting more desperate. this week, his lawyer rudy giuliani openly threatened special unsel robert mueller and warned him to end his investigation soon. giuliani told bloomberg news if he doesn't get it done in the next two or three weeks, we will just unload on him like a ton of bricks. oh, rudy. [ laughter ]

you weird old mid-november jack-o-lantern. [ laughter ] do you really think you're going to scare robert mueller? that guy eats bricks like they're cliff bars. [ laughter ] ino are you going to bet o showdown between a former marine and elderly lawyer who looks like a half finished bitmoji? [ laughter ] you know what rudy reminds me of? you know when you go to a mcdonald's and there are a bunch of teenagers working there, of course, but en there's one old guy and you're like, "oh, that's got to be a sad story." [ laughter ] except the sad sry here is at guy used to be the mayor of new york city. [ laughter ] but rudy's threats shouldn't surprise us. trump and his inner circle will go to virtually any lengths to silence or bully their critics. just yesterday for example, the white house revoked the security clearance of former cia director john brennan, who has been an outspoken critic of trump. now yo brennan to see what is going on here. trump's trying to silence him.ic and repus are fully on board, like louisiana senator

john kennedy who used a very childish insult for brennan. na i think most americans look at ouonal intelligence experts as being above politics mr. brens demonstrated that that's not the case. he's been totally political. i think i called him a butthead and i meant it. [ laughter ] >> seth: oh, did you? you called him a butthead and meant it? "and further more, let the record show that i rule and brennan drools." [ laughter ] senators should not be calling people buttheads. especially since you all look like old beavi [ laughter ] and then, of course, there's trump's ongoing feud with his former confidant omarosa manigault-newman. trump is apparentlso freaked out by omarosa's secret tapes, that now he wants omarosa in jail. "vanity fair" reported today that trump told adsers he nts attorney general jeff sessions to have manigault-newman arrested. it's unclear what law trump

ldlieves she broke. do you think you crrest omarosa? this is a person you tried to .ire four times and you still can't get rid of h [ laughter ] if you threw omarosa in jail, sh would tunnel her way out with a spoon "shawshank" style. [ laughter ]ou and then, whenoke up the next morning, she's going to be standing over your bed with a copy of the russia pee tape. [ laughter ] this isn't -- [ cheers and applause ] i made copies. this isn't the first time silence ried omarosa. after she was fired from the m white house, the trump t tried a tactic with her that they've tried with several former trump aides. giving her a job on the campaign to keeher quiet. remember, this is a person who trump has called "wacky," "deranged," "vicious" and "not smart." but apparently he wanted to hire a fifth time. >> manigault-newman says she was subsequently offered a $15,000 a month job on the trump campaignf that wouldourse, require that she keep quiet about her time in the trump administration.

>> seth: "you're a crazy lowlife who can't be trusted. welcome aboard." [ laughter and applause ] omarosa was offered the job -- she was offered the job on the campaign by lara trump, eric trump's wife, who's a official with the trump campaign. omarosa said she took it as an attempt to buy her silence. and once again, she had a secret tape to back up her story. this was a conversation omarosa had with lara trump shortly after being fired from the white house. it >> sound ae like, obviously that there's something you've got in the back pocket to pull out. clearly, if you come on board t wi campaign, like, we can't have. we gotta -- >> oh, god, no. >> everybody positive, right? i know were making 179 at the white house and i think we can work something out where we keep you ght along those lines. um -- specifically, let me seeev i haven' added up the numbers, but we were talking about like $15k a month. let me see what that adds up tog

[ light er ] 12, yeah. so it's $180,000. does that sound like a fair deal for you? >> seth: maybe next time you're offering somebody hush money to keep them quiet, do the math before you get othe phone. [ laughter ] "so let's see, $15k a month times 12. let's see. and we're goa carry the one. that's $180,000 a year, plus of $5.99 for a role of duct tape." ght laughter ] so, first they hired omarosa, then they fired her, then they tried to hire her agaiuy her off. this is how trumpism works. everyone is conning everyone else, and in the process, 'r thconing the rest of us, too. in fact, trump's favorite tv show "fox & friends" basally admitted as much yesterday when in a rare moment of honesty, they said that omarosa had outplayed trump. >> the other big story yesterday which was with what's goinon with omarosa. in order to sell a book, she's come out with a seritapes, and in many ways seems to have outsmarted the president who has taken the bait and gt and tweeted directly after her. >> seth: wow. that's trump's favorite tv show.

that's the show he watches every morning to feel better about himself. [ light laughter ] that's like if you put on a meditation tape and it said "you're sitting by a mountain stream. birds are singing. evy day that passes, you'r closer to death." [ laughter ] but that's such a revealing clip, because there's no better vessel of modern conservatism than "fox & friends" and even they're telling you that it's all just a giant grift. omarosa is playing trump. trump is playing the rest of us. and rudy giuliani is just a -- >> butthead. [ laughter ] this has been "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: we'll be right back with my friend, jessica biel, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: for more of seth's "closer looks", be sure to subscribe to "late night" on youtube. t unlimited wayso be you.

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back. give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ]en also, we've elighted this week to have fred armisen back with us on drums. give it for fred, evybody! [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: fred, we've got a two more weeks left in the summer. we were talking about how great our summers have been. the one thing you were lamenting, you're so busy you don't have time to do any summer reading. is that ac irate? >> freannot do any reading. just too busy. >> seth: and i was saying i feel

so bad for you and you said, don't, because you have developed a method, according t, here you can look at the cover of a novel and know erything about it. [ light laughter ] the entire story from start to finish. all the characters, every detail, the writing style. is this true? >> fred: the different chapters, the title -- [ lauger ] the title page, everything. >> seth: all right, well, we're going to put it to the test, once again. this is our new segment, "fr a judges book by its cover." ♪ [ cheers and applaus >> seth: ready freddie? >> fred: all set. >> seth: here we go. the book i >> fred: "clock dance." >> seth: by ann tyler. >> fred: "clock dance." >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> fred: by -- it's a novel, by anne tyler. >> seth: yep, okay, you're off to a great start, fred. >> fred: yeah. [ lauger ] >> seth: what's it about? >> fred: so this is about -- it's very literally about a clock. [ laughter ] and so the main character is like, "i'm going to design a clock. g itng to be the best clock ever, because it's going to last for centuries." >> seth: oy. >> fred: right? so the protagonist, who turns out to be thantagonist, too -- [ laughter ] i won't give too much away. light laughter ]

plants some seeds in the shape of a clock. and what happens is, the book is a description of the seeds growing into cacti. [ laughter ] you see?o there are them. so -- [ laughter ] >> seth: that would be -- so that -- >> fred: yeah. >> seth: you mean that would be that one and this one. >> fred: right. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> fred: so the protagonist wants to tell time according to this, but it takes s that he dies before the end. [ laughter ] before he's abab to -- so he't to say, like -- >> seth: his plan -- i'm sorry, his plan to invent a clock was to plant seeds in the shape of a clock. >> fred: that's what he was told to do. [ laughter ] so he was like, "okay, you know, it doesn't seem like a great idea. i shou know, just, like, buy a clock because life is short." [ laughter ] and this person at gave him the advice was like, "no, i think this is the best way to do it, you will save money." >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> fred: so 's -- he was like, "okay, i'll do it." and it took so long that he died. i mean, he was, you ow -- >> seth: does he now, excuse me, did he die after he becomes the antagonist? [ laughter ] >> fred: in death becomes the antagonist. >> seth: okay, good.

laughter ] >> fred: because the town is just like, "why did you do you spend so much time doing this? y did you waste all of o time?" hence "clock dance."so t's -- [ laughter ] so it's a very literal book. at the end of it they do a dance for his funeral. >> seth: oh, wow! [ laughter ] >> fred: a clock dance. >> seth: clock dance? > fred: yeah. eth: yeah. that's great. can i just tell you what the publisher says it's about? >> fred: sure. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] after receiving a startling phone call from a stranger, willa flies across the country to baltimore to look young woman she's never met, her nine-year-old daughter, and their dog airplane. this impulsive dllision leads to find solace and fulfillment in unexpected places. >> fred: that's the protagonist right there. [ laughter ] >> seth: give it up for fred, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] you know our first guest from her golden globe and om emmyated work as cora on the first season of usa's hit series "the sinner." she returns as an executive producer for season two, which is now airing wednesghts on usa. please welcome to the show jessica biel, everybody.

[ cheers and applause ]♪ ♪ >> seth: welcome. >> thank you. >> seth: i'm so happy to have you here. >> i'm so hay to be here. >> seth: this -- your show "the sinner" was fantastic. correctly nominated for a gold globe. correctly nominated for an emmy. and yet you had not done ttelevision in 15 years, t true? >> oh, yeah, at least. >> seth: in that time, you probably -- i'm assuming youeren't looking for anything. this project must have come and found you. >> it did. it was presented to us by these amazing partners we have at ucp. and they handed us this book. and i flew through this book, ut the last page, and literally said, "this is mine. nobody can have this. i don't know how we're gonna do this. i don't know how i'm gonna do this. this is terrifying and crazy and awful, but we're goi to do this and i just, like, hung on for dear life and now here we are.

>> seth: and i highly recommend everybody to watch season one, because there are incredible twists in the show. it is a role that i think is very different than maybe what we've come to expect from you. >> definitely. >> seth: i want to give you a lot of credit, you cry a lot. this is very emotional. [ laughter ] >> a lot of tears. >> seth: you make your voice -- you look like you're in alcold commeror most of -- [ laughter ] most of the season. intensely -- >> oh, my d. >> seth: did you know you could -- did you know you could generate these faces.us or did yougo so deep into character that they came out? >> thank god it was sort of like a blacko situation and i didn't realize i made those faces until i was watching the cuts -- >> seth: oh, that's good.at >> many months. >> seth: so you mention watching the cuts, because you're also, f as ynd out in the project, you put it together, you starred in season one. season two you are now just an r executive prod you still have bill pullman from season one. >> mm-hmm. >> seth: a couple incredible acto tracy letts.oon and >> yes. >> seth: how is it now with a project that you've been on on one side of the camera, now jusb on the other? >> it's so different. and at first, nd of awful. like, it was sort of really sad

not to be on set everyday. >> seth: sure. >> blood, sweat, tears, snot. s h: literally, yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] >> tears and snot and bad faces. >> seth: yeah. >> all day every day.nd i f was really -- kind of felt a little left out, a little butt hurt about the whole thing. >> seth: yeah.ou >> but even it was our decision, the creative team's decision that this was, you thow, the right thing was, you know, to maintaiintegrity of the show, new investigation and let bill, you knowcontinue on. so it's hard to let it go. >> seth: i imagine it's hard.ll but i ay one of the things i really like about -- there's kind of television show now that tells completely different stories from year to year. >> mm-hmm. >> seth: and it's a really nice way -- i feel like the story-telling is a lot easier contained when you' have to worry about telling one story over x amount of seasons. you can just kinof tie off one and start another one. so that's really exciting. >> it's true. it's true, and i think you just don't get stale. you're not trying to -- >> seth: absolutel >> regurgitate the same thing and come up with something new, you can start totally fresh and have new people comen. it's a really nice way to work, i think. >> i want to talk about you have a child, a three-year-old, right?

>> i do. >> seth: congratulations.ha >> you. >> seth: i have two children. >> i know. congratulations. >> seth: before -- thank you. but thiss crazy, before we had children, we played expectant parents in the now-famous film "new year's eve." >> we did. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> and we had a child together. >> seth: it was a very -- it was -- obviously this was a fantasy film. [ laughter ] >> oh, my god. >> seth: this was a y film where someone like me has a baby with jessica. >> shut up! >> seth: and -- [ laughter ] but -- >> but, look, still, like, horrible face. >> set yeah, no, that's true. >> this isn't -- >> seth: i don't know why i underestimated your weird faces after working with you. [ laughter >> this has been consistent my whole career, apparently. >> seth: the crazy this was this taviously was a film about rushing to the hosand having a crazy birth. and then i had a kid in real life and it was so much crazier than the movie. light laughter ] >> oh, i mean, that story -- >> seth: yeah. >> we've never talked about that. but oh, my god. >> seth: yeah, my wife fully dropped a baby in the lobby and i was like, "this is weirder than my movie. [ laughter ] this is weirder than 'new year's eve' was as a movie." >> that is so strange. >> seth: you travel a lot with your son, yes? >> i do. >> seth: and you've taken him to europe a lot.. >> y

>> seth: i know your husband's on tour so that gives -- >> yes. loteth: a chance to go to of citie >> how is he on the european tour? >> he's kind of amazing. >> seth: that's great.ea >> i he's -- you know, he's into new countries, he's into learning words from different languages. i think he's absorbing things. you know, i take him to these amazing museums. like, we're in louvre and we're looking at all the, you know, the most incredible old painters and the painting and i'm poking him in his ooroller, i'm like, "look, this important." and he's got his ipad and he's literally giving me the meanest face. just like, "ugh. [ laughter ] you are so boring, leave me alone." [ laughter ] and i have a picture of him in his stroller with his, like, legs kicked up with ipad and then this beautiful painting behind him. [ laughter ] not caring at all. [ laughter ] like, not absorbing it. >> seth: the crazy thing -- whenever i go to museums, do yo realat that, like, 300 years ago, those paintings were ipads. >> y>>h. eth: you just, like -- >> yeah. >> seth: you would, like, go and be like, "great." and that was your ity. >> that wa >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> that was it. >> seth: and then the rest of

the day you uld just, like, ll the hours thinking about the painting you saw and be like, "that was really cool. did you see --" >> that's right. >> seth: "did you see the heple?" "yeah,pple was -- [ laughter ] the apple was outstanding." >> exactly. >> seth: you also -- a bachelorette parer for your si was it a friend? who was it for? >> seth: it was for my -- my brother's soon-to-be wifet the time. >> seth: okay, gotcha. so your soon-to-be sister-in-law. >> >> seth: you guys went to vegas. >> we did. >> seth: and i think there's an image of, like, wh somebody looks like when they do the full vegas. >> oh, yeah. >> seth: that you did the full vegas. >> oh, yeah. >> seth: and you posted this. this was not -- >> i did. >> seth: this is not somebody -- who, like, sid >> no. >> seth: side iphoned a photo of you. you were -- you were proud of this look in vegas. hi i was owning it. >> seth: you ownlook. here you are. that's hollywood for you guys right there. jessica --[ ughter ] jessica is just rocking the slots. >> living it up. >> seth: yeah. [ cheers and applause ] >> you know, it's -- >> seth: the best thout it is -- >> it's my lucky -- my lucky style that i -- >> seth: i feel like you could probably hide in plain, because somebody would say, "hey, that's jessica biel." and they'd be like, "that's not jessica biel." >> "no way." laughter ] exactly. that was my move.

>> seth: "jessica biel's not in a robe playing slots." [ laughter ] >> i had just come from the buffet, too. >> seth: oh, wow. ] [ laught it is always so wonderful to see you. >> it's so good to see y. >> seth: best of luck at the emmys. >> and you, too, by the way. >> seth: thank you very much. >> congratulations i >> setppreciate it. that's very kind of you. and, yeah, i will -- hopefully you'll come back soon. it's always great to seeou. give it up for jessica biel, everybody. >> i will be here. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: second season oir "the sinner"wednesday nights at 10:00 p.m. on usa. we'll be right back with awkwafina. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪movement was my only tell ♪running through the door as i start to yell♪ ♪movement was my only chance ♪full speed ahead was my only plan♪ ♪i'm moving while you talk ya talk♪ ♪don't talk, gon' break ya jaw ♪i'm coming up ♪my movements coming up

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is a talented rapper and actress you know fro "ocean's eight."e in she stars in "crazy rich asians", which is in theaters now. s take a look. >> do you wanna stop by for some dinner? >> oh, no. i couldn't impose. >> no, it's not a problem. >> you know i had some dinner plans.

>> seriously, we've got a lot of -- >> yeah, i'll [ bleep ] come to dinner. >> i missed you. >> did you? >> yes. >> how was your day? >> fun. i had a meeting this morning -- >> nope. >> you have a cocktail dress in your trunk? >> i'm not an animal, rachel. >> seth: please welcawe to the shafina, everyone. [ cheers and applause ]♪ ♪ow >> seth:re you? >> i'm doing well. how are you? >> seth: i'm wonderful. congratulations on this film. this is an incredible accomplishment.t film with an all asian cast in 25 years. >> yep. 25 years. >> seth: people have been veryit excited abou you went to a screening last night, you surprised people at the screening. yes? >> i did. i did. >> seth: how did that go down? >> it was -- it was fun.

it was fun. i think they, like, weren't expecting it. .ey were like very confus and then we we to another one, and they were -- and they were more just li, oh hey. cool. hey. [ light laughter ] >> seth: how do you go about introducing yourself? how do you surprise a theater? n it helps if they know who you are. >> seth: yeah. >> if you kind of just walk into a theater in the middle of a preview and just like, "what's up?" and then they're just like, who -- [ laughter so -- and i'm like, "no, no. we're in the movie. we're in the movie." ah, 'cause we -- seth: the weird thing is in new york, i still wouldn't believe a personf they were like, "hey, i'm in this movie." you'd be like, "get out of here!" [ laughter ] >> no, but i had to -- there's a girl with us, she plays kitty pong in the movie, e's from singapore. and i told her, i was like, areful.e because it's illegal to yell fire in a theater here." so the first thing she yells when we got in the the she's like "fire!" [ laughter ] and i was like -- >> set by the way i feel like you knew something about her if you felt like you had to warn her at. >> i know. >> seth: like i don't tell my foreign friends when tovy come

to a, "just so you know, don't scream fire." >> just scream fire. maybe i wanted her to get arrested. so that's -- shout out, fiona. >> seth: you -- you have -- one of the things you got to hang out with off caere, where you were shooting there were a lot of monkeys around. >> a lot of moeys. >> seth: and you sent us a video of a very harrowing moment you had with a monkey.. >> i deserved >> seth: you did deserve it. >> i did deserve it. >> seth: i'm glad that you said that, because watchi p the video, none of this blame on the monkey. >> he slapped me with his cold, wet hand. [ light laughter ] at that point i had -- okay. all right, well -- >> seth: let's see if the amdience sides with both of us that you are to ble. >> oh, all right. >> dude, you have the weirdest genitals. i've never seen -- likly seen a monkey. [ laughter ] oh, are you scared? ooh, how come you're not scared of me? [ gasp ] [ laughter and applause ] >> not my best. >> seth; yeah. >> it was not me at my best. >> seth: it seemed like when -- wherwas that filmed? >> that was at the batu caves right outside of kuala lumpur. so half of the minie was filmed alaysia.

>> seth: see it films like -- it feels like a malaysian frieni would have bee to you to say like, hey, just so you know, when you're around monkeys don't yell. [ laughter ] >> don't yell. >> seth: don't yell, "why you not afraid of me, monkey!" [ laughter ] >> he was chilling. you know there -- you know. he was hanging out, and then this other -- this other man kind of came at him pretty aggressively. and then he looked at me and he -- he lodged at me. i tell you -- i threw my phone and he slapped me.et >> really? >> yeah he -- [ laughter ] >> seth: like in the face? like slap -- an it was a rainy day. his hand was colwet. >> seth: uh-huh. and it was not my best. it was not my best. >> seth: yeah. they say if you get slapped by a , hope that it's a dry, warm hand. >> i know. [ laughter ] i would have enjoyed the embrace. seth: that's -- i think that's good luck. but wet -- wet and cold. >> i don't know if that's good luck, but it would have en nice. yeah, sure. >> seth: you -- you're very close with your grandmother. >> yes. >> seth: obviously she was excited to see this film. what did >> oh, she was excited. so she went last night at like the 10:45 show.

d she was like, "oh, your wig. your wig." and i was like, "yeah, i wear a wig in it, grandma. you know this." and then she was like, she's like, "you're not really in it.i and i wa, "oh. [ laughter ] thank you. wow. thanks." so- >> seth: but your grandmother -- that' surprises me, she's obviously very game. >> yes. >> seth: you -- you're also rapper, and your grandmother has been in videos of yours. >> i cast her all the time. yes. >> seth: and is she excited when s u ask? >> at first she ke, "no, no, no." you know, she becomes all coy. she's like, "no, i can't." and then all the sudden, just likeights, camera, she turns into ethel merman. she's like bette midler. and just like all of a sudden. >> seth: what -- now what -- what video is is from? >> that is her. that's -- that's from my more recent video "pockiez." >> set okay, "pockiez." so here's your grandmother. and i'm assuming this is not how she usually looks. >> no. >> set there she is. [ cheers and applause ] >> oh, man. oh, my god. she's watching this tonight. she's going to be horribly embarrassed by what you just did. [ laughter ] >> seth: so wait, does she appreciate tt you gave her

ndred dollar bills here to -- >> she -- so i get -- the whatever. the director gave her ones. and she's like, "you give me ones? you give me 0." [ laughter ] so he had to got to chase to take 100s. she refused to do it with ones. she didn't want to appear cheap. >> seth: that's great.he wellsay that looking cheap in a rap video is the worse thing you can do. [ light laughter ] >> yeah, yea pretty much. she knew. >> seth: very rarely celebrate frugality in rap videos. >> yes. yes. - >> seth: you h one of the first things we knew you from was a viral rap video you did >>lled "my vag." h, you said it. >> seth: yeah, i said it. >> oh, you can say it. >> seth: i can say "my vag." >> oh. [ light lahter ] okay. you know those pbs people are gonna get it. >> seth: you know what, i actually didn't thinsaabout until it and now -- [ laughter ] now i guess -- >> you're going to get a memo later. >> seth: and really leaned into it. i don't think i showed any fear or anything. [ laughter ] >> very boldly stated. >> seth: very bolded -- >> yes. thatas a very bold statement >> seth: and also weirdly -- obviously for, you know, genetic reasons, i've never had any reason to say -- >> right. >> seth: my vag. >> yeah.

[ laughter ] i mean -- >> seth: and it's weiru you know, t to a certain age, you feel like there are things if you haven't said them yet, you're never gonna say them. [ laughter ] >> it's a vag ofonor. >> seth: yeah, it's a vag of honor. >> it's a vag of honor. >> seth: yes, bravo. [ cheers and applause ] what did -- so when that came out,oes your grandmother see "my vag"? >> yes, she did. laughter ] she does. she did. >> seth: she -- she has. >> you know and i don't want tor g in -- she loved it. to this day, even the video that she was in, she's ke, you got to make more songs like that, nor. i'm gonnhonest with you. >> seth: really? >> she's like, "yeah, you know all your other songs. they just haven't cut it like that one. you know?" and i'm like, "thanks grandma." you know, good. >> seth: wow. she's seems like an interesting balance of being isuredibly ortive -- >> and really mean. >> seth: but also a really, really tough critic. >> kind of mean, yeah. >> seth: that song did not g great for your current employers at the time. >> it did not, no.>> seth: so what happened? >> so, you know, i was working e,at what i thought was, lhe best job of my life. i think --ca i think what i down to was

i was really bad at my job. >> seth: okay. >> i was a publicist. , like, if you asked -- publicity assistant. so if you had asked, like, at that time what a publicist was, i would not have been able to tell you what a publicist was. >> seth: gotcha. >> or what it meant. and -- so like it was my birthday. i shot the video on my birthday. and we -- you know how, like, in y fices they kind of have obligatory birthre they orders melissa's. >> seth: oh. the tiny cupcakes.wh >> you kno i mean? the tiny cupcakes. and over the melissa's, she's like, "oh, what you'd you do on yowa birthday?" like, "i shot a video." and she was like, "oh, well -- i didn't know you do music." and i was like, well it was called -- >> seth: yeah. >> yeah, "my vag." >> seth: well you can't be the one to not say it. >> yeah, no. [ laughter ] i gotta say it. i'll say it. you know what, i'll say it. and -- and you know, i got fired immediately. and then -- [ laught ] but you know -- you know, like last yearhen we were filming "ocean's eight", i iink like i always felt like pretty disgraced aon't think i ever really felt closure from that moment. and i filmed this scene with rihanna on this, like, beautiful, crisp night in manhattan. and i come back to my trailer and i look up

and it's the building that i use to work at. and -- it was just like -- it's weird how things come full circle like that. >> seth: yeah. >> i think i -- i finally got the clos needed. >> seth: i would say anyone -- if anyone ever got fired from a d job, the best outcome wo standing next to rihanna looking at your old building. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause thanks for being here. >> thank you, seth. >> seth: really enjoyed talkin congrats on everything. awkwafina, everybody. "crazy rich asians" is in theaters now. we'll be right back with dy.t groening, every [ cheers and applause ] ♪ and i'm claire. and we're the salmon sisters. we run our business from the boat. it's a really small space. this new surface go is the perfect size. ♪ i love having something that i can hold in my hand. we're proud of this way of life. we're proud of the work we're doing.

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. niour next guest is a cart and the emmy-winning creator of "futurama" and "the simpsons." his new series, t" "disenchantmbegins streaming on netflix tomorrow. let's take a look. ♪ >> oh, elfo, you're so naughty. >> why is everyone always saying that? just because i'm not jolly all the time doesn't make me a weirdo. hey, get out of here, weirdo. >> your whining really turns me on. >> seth: please welcome to the show matt groening, everyone.

[ cheers and applause ] ♪et >> how are you? >> i'm good. >> seth: i'm so happy and honored to have you here. >> that was a misleading clip. [ light laughter ] >> seth: that is a misleading clip. okay. es yeah, yeah, because the of the show does not look like that. le seth: okay, gotcha. >> that was our li introduction to elfwood, which is drawn and animated in a fleischer brothers style from the 1930s. >> seth: interesting. >> the rest -- we were going to start the show sat way -- h: uh-huh. >> and realized that people would it off in 15 seconds. so you'll get the real show.et you'llhat later. >> seth: so you arguably sent over the worst possible clip for the show. [ light laughter ] >> yeah, i did. yes. >> seth: i've never -- we've never had this before where someone's immediately com d -- >> comes out and apologizes. >> seth: and had to distance themselves from the clip. >> well here's the -- [ laughter ] ll i like the clip. >> seth: it's a good clip. >> here's the thinabout fantasy. things are not what they seem to be. >> seth: right. >> right? >> seth: yeah. >> it's acally true of most things, but -- >> seth: yeah. >> but things are not what they seem to be, and that's what this whole show is about. >> seth: so congratulations by

the way. "the simpsons" passed "gunsmoke" for the longest scripted se primetimes this year. [ cheers and applause ] 600 plus episodes. 30 seasons. >> you know that's what you -- longevity, that's what it's all about. >> seth: it's impressive. >> beating a western from the 1960s. >> seth: yeah. [ light laught ] now when you guys set out with your cartoon, you were like, "we're gonna get this western." so -- and ow, for those who don't know, these are -- your parents were marge and homer. >> that's right.h: >> sou had sisters who were lisa and maggie. >> lisa and maggie, yes. >> seth: so you -- you basically just managed to extend your own family into a world for us all to enjoy. which is really something. >> and i'll tell you something, if you ever get a chance to start your own cartoon show ande name them your family, don't do it. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> because --pr it was a se. and the surprise was really funny on the debut night. and then as the show continued year after year after year -- [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> they got kind of tired of it. >> seth: yeah, i bet. well certainly i would think for

your dad it would be tough to be like, yeah, that's -- [ light laughter ] e that's me. >> he actually liked the show. he only didn't like it when homer simpson was mean to marge. >> seth: oh, that's interesting. al he -- yeah. >> seth: that's sweet. >> yeah. >> seth: i don't think -- >> but when -- when homer strangled bart -- i >> seth: lov >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: probably very cathartic fohim to watch that. so you have -- you have eight children, which is really incredible. do they watch the show? >> no, they do not. >> seth: okay gotcha. do any -- you went 0 for eigol? >> well thr ones do. >> seth: okay. >> the older ones grew up on the show. >> seth: gotcha. well that's nice. >> they're really -- yeah, they're in their 20s now. >> seth: and they were fully invested in it and thought it was cool that it was yours. >> they were -- they were invested in it. they were born right around the timehe show started. seth: uh-huh. >> and so they grew up with the show. and then -- and then "family guy" came along and my son abe said -- came to me and he said, "dad, 'simpsons' is out." [ laughter "'family guy' is what everybody wants to watch now." audience awws ] and i said, "tell 'family guy'

to buy you an xbox." [ laughter and he said, "i wish seth mcfarla was my dad." [ laughter ] i told seth that, and he went -- it was a bit. he was doing a good bit. >> seth: good, goo good. so this is an idea -- so you have a new show, u'isenchantment." is this an idea had for a long time? >> long time. long time. >> seth: okay. >> yeah, i grew up with all sorts of -- the fantasy that wthall grew up "wizard of oz", "alice in wonderland", and all that stuff. so -- and then -- and then, in more recent times the are some -- been some amazing movies by stephen chow from china. s.s.ajamouli, telegu filmmaker, made a great film which i'd like to recommend, "magadheera." >> seth: "magadheera." >> go out anwatch "magadheera." >> seth: okay great. >> yes. >> seth: so you still,t this point, even though you obviously have created all this work, you're still inspired by other artists. that's hear. interesting to >> oh yeah. of course. >> seth: that's great. >> james l. brooks, executive producer of "the simpsons,says if you steal from a black and white movie, it's an homage. s h: yeah. that's really smart.

[ light laughter ] that's very, very smart. we have -- you have princesses, elves, demons. >> yes. >> seth: what was -- tassume that one of the -- obviously being bo creator and the animator, the look of it becomes very important. what was the first chacter you conceived of as far as how they would look? >> elfo. elfo was based on the very first character at i ever drew when i learned how to draw in my style. just you know, a little nose, a big tragic overbite. and eyes that are so big they crowd out the brains. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: did you -- can you look back -- because i know you know so much of art, any kind of art is, you know, doing it and redoing it and redoing it. did you have that moment where k it sort of c for you, that like oh, this is my style now? that thing you just described. >> yeah. i was in the sixth grade and i realized, i'm never gonna draw any other way than this.an what was great -- it's that style you're all familiar with. it's the big eyes, like i said,n the overbite. >> seth: will you show us how you did elfo? >> yes, i'd be great to. >> seth: i know you had some -- we brought some stuff out. [ cheers applause ] >> okay. so the secret --

e secret of animation is coming up with a character that is recognizable and iconic a the way you do that is you have a character that is recognizable in silhouette. so who'shat? >> seth: yeah, there you go. >> okay. there you go. right? bart. >> sh: yep. >> that was bart. >> seth: that was bart. [ light laughter ] >> who's this? >> seth: there we go. show it ri camera one.e to there we go. yep. >> mickey mouse. that's what -- and the thing about mickeynoouse is thaatter which way he turns his head, it's always like that. >> seth: right. ver see, like, the side ear. >> now this is a little hard one. trump. >> seth: oh, yeah. >> yes. [ laughter ]re >> seth: it'ly good. i can't believe i missed that. >> okay. and, again, which ever way you look at him. atever the side is -- [ light laughter ] it's a hair frisbee. >> seth: yeah it's really 's n optical illusion. >> so this -- again this is my -- this is my --

my style now. okay, this is what i came up with when i was 12. okay, right now -- >> seth: uh-huh, could be bart. >> could be bart. could be homer. could be marge. could be lisa. >> seth: could be lisa, yep. >> could be any of the characters. so with elfo, all i did was extend the nose down i gave him two nostrils to make it original. >> seth: yep. >> right? [ light laughter ] >> seth: that's incr. what an incredible change. >> and then pointy ears. >> seth: oh, there you go. that's an elf now. >> that's an elf.th e you go. >> seth: that is -- >> and so elfo, the hero, is in love with princess bean. >> seth: yep. >> but he's also a little small kid he sort of looks like so side burns. >> seth: oh, t >> yeah.o. [ light laughter ] >> seth: so now it's not creepy. >> yeah, it's not as creepy. >> seth: yeah, i think -- >> there you go.et >> i think that i want every kid at home whose parents are telling them not to be an im or to realize how fast he did that and how rich he is. >> here's the thing though --ee [ and applause ] wow, thank you.

you want that? >> set of course i want this. i'm not going to let the crew co out and grab my origina piece of art here. thank you so much. congrats on the new show. it really is just such an honor and pleasure to have you here. >> thank you. >> sh: thank you for everything over the years. [ cheers and applause ] matt groening, everybody. "disenchantment" begins streaming on netflix tomorrow. we'll beight back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ -morning. -morning. -what do we got? eep an eye on that branch. might get windy. have a good shift. fire pit. last use -- 0600. i'd stay close. morning. ♪ get ready to switch. protected by flo. should say, cted by alan and jamie." -right? -should it? when you bundle home a auto... run, alan! ...you get more than just savings. you get 'round-the-clock protection. ...you get more than just savings. the new school year is almost here. and a new iphone from t-mobile is the best way to keep in touch.

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