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>> chris: i'm chris wallace. resident trump suffers a major setback on his first big legislative initiative. what does that mean for the rest of his agenda? >> i don't know what else to say other than obamacare is the law of the land. >> there's not much you can do to help it. it's imploding and soon will explode. it's not going to be pretty. >> chris: we will discuss prospects for tax reform, trade, and immigration as well as mr. trump's image as a dealmake dealmaker. white house chief of staff reince priebus. it's a "fox news sunday" exclusive. then congressman jim jordan, founding member of the conservative
caucus and why they oppose the president this time and whether they will again. plus, isis claims responsibility for the deadly attack in london. we will discuss the war on terror here and abroad with one of our key allies, iraqi prime minister haider al-abadi, only on "fox news sunday" ." the house intelligence chair faces backlash for taking reports on surveillance of the trump transition directly to the white house. >> i felt like i had a duty and obligation to tell them, because as you know he's been taking a lot of heat in the news media. >> chris: we will ask our sunday panel whether his move undermines credibility, investigating the alleged links between the trump team and russia. all right now on "fox news sunday" ." >> chris: and hello again from fox news in washington. obamacare is here to stay. house g.o.p. leaders facing a vote for republican members pulledhe
replace it, the result, a damaging defeat for donald trump, a consummate dealmaker in the first big negotiation of his presidency. in a moment we will drove down into what went wrong and what it means to the rest of the president's agenda with white house chief of staff reince priebus and congressman jim jordan, and leader of the house freedom caucus. first, let's bring in fox news correspondent kevin corke at the white house. >> to move on what could best be described as political low-hanging fruit, jobs, regulatory reform. we certainly expect to her great deal more about those issues this week as the white house tries to reassure the presidents rattled base after the setback on health care. the president seemed to look forward in a tweet he had talked about obamacare as you said comment saying that it will ultimately explode and that he would eventually together with just his party and perhaps even others who might want to be involved in all that and try to come up with
and replace for the people. he said do not worry, and that was the message taken to west virginia by his vice president mike pence. he met with business leaders on saturday and he said the fight to repeal and replace is not over yet. >> even though congress isn't ready to do it yet, president trump will not rest, will not relent until we repeal and replace obamacare. >> treasurer terry secretary will be in the newspapers this week. tax reform. the u.s. corporate tax rate among the highest in the world, the president has said he would like to cut the corporate rate down to 15% from 35% and he's repeatedly promised to reduce the tax burden on the american families. there is some concern among g.o.p. lawmakers that the fiasco on obamacare, the road ahead on
tax reform could ultimately be even more complicated, especially when you consider the incredible number of competing stakeholders that can make what happened last week look like child's play moving forward. >> chris: kevin corke reported from the white house, thanks for that. joining us now, president trump's chief of staff reince priebus. reince, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> reince: good morning, chris chris. >> chris: president trump reacted to the defeat of repeal and replace by blaming democrat democrats. >> we had no democrat support. we had no votes from the democrats. they weren't going to give us a single vote. >> chris: reince, the president never reached out to democrats, he never offered democrats a compromise. how can you blame democrats for this? >> reince: look, obamacare as we know is imploding and it is exploding, and every other adjective you can provide. it's going south. it would be nice to get the democrats on board. but you are right, at the end of
time for the party to start governing. i think that's important. i think that democrats can come to the table as well and if you look at what the president said in the oval just after that comment, he said perhaps it's time for us to start talking to some moderate democrats as well as come up with a bipartisan solution. i do think that there are republicans this weekend that are scrambling. i think there are people in the freedom caucus in the tuesday group for the listeners, that's the moderate group that are starting to talk about what the next steps are in order to prevent an implosion of obamacare. but the president has also said that when obamacare does ultimately explode, which it will, we are going to be prepared to lead again and if democrats come on board with a plan down the road, we will welcome that. >> chris: i want to talk about that in a second. the president, i don't know if you even know this, has been tweeting this morning. i want to put up the tweet as i see the look in your
he said this morning, democrats are smiling in d.c., but the freedom caucus with the help of club for growth and heritage to conservatives have saved planned parenthood and obamacare. seems to be putting it right on the right wing -- hard-line conservatives in your own party. >> chris: i think the president is 100% the dominant correct and i think he hits the bull's-eye and that tweet as he normally does. sometimes you have to take the good and put it in your pocket and take the win. we have a two-party system in this country. we are not italy, we don't have 12 different parties where you have the super conservatives, the kind of conservatives, the moderates, and everyone else in between and everyone fits nicely into one package, we have one party republican party, and one democrat party. the president met with over 120 members of the house. there was more love shown to outside groups by this white house whether it
vice president pence, nick mulvaney, tom price, stephen bannon, myself. the point is, this group of people working the halls of congress, including the leadership in congress, i think it's time for our folks to come together, and i also think it's time to potentially get a few moderate democrats on board as well. >> chris: i will get to the democrats in a second. i want to talk about this obamacare, because the president and you this morning upset that obamacare is on its last legs. here's the president on friday. >> i've been saying for the last year and a half that the best thing we can do politically speaking is let obamacare explode, it is exploding right now. >> chris: mr. trump has also said he doesn't want to hurt the millions of people who depend on obamacare right now. the question is, will he do something, as he has promised with obamacare, will he do
stabilize it in the meantime, or is he just going to let it explode? >> reince: it will be a decision on the line mainly driven by acts of congress. there's funding issues coming up soon, i believe in the next couple months, in regard to obamacare. it's a possibility. i don't think the president is closing the door on anything. in regard to the issue of health care, but if you look at this bill, and you look at what it provided, the tax relief, the largest entitlement reform in modern history. you look at the fact that we were almost to the point where we would be defunding planned parenthood, we were to the point where we were defunding planned parenthood. the fact that some of these members took that and decided not to move forward with it i think is a real shame and i think the president is disappointed in the number of people that he thought were loyal to him that work. that all being said, i want people out there to understand that this president
to be a partisan president. this is a president that wants to provide, and you are right, he wants to make sure that people don't get left behind. he wants to make sure that this competition in the marketplace so that rates are lower. so people can choose their doctor. those three things are incompatible with some members of the republican house, then it's going to be incompatible, and we need to work with moderate democrats to make sure that that happens. we will leave no one behind, we want to make sure that people are covered, they pick their doctor and they pay less and reinforce competition in the market. that's what this bill provided. >> chris: i want to get to that, because this is like the third time in our brief conversation that you talked about reaching out to democrats. it is the lesson president is taking away from this defeat that he's got to change his legislative rategy that you don't have a governing majority in the house that the freedom caucus never seems to get to, and th
out to democrats and try to pick up some votes because he can't count on republicans to give you the majority. >> reince: i don't know if he agrees with everything you just said, but what i do think is that everything is on the table. we will give these guys another chance. that's not really the point. if we come up with a bill that accomplishes the goals of the president with republicans allowed that we will take it and move forward with it. we're moving on the tax reform, the budget coming up. i think it's more or less a warning shot that we are willing to talk to anyone, we always have been, and i think more so now than ever, it's time for both parties to come together and get to real reforms in this country whether it be taxes, health care, immigration, infrastructure, this president is ready to lead and sort of -- over with the games in the legislature. >> chris: okay. yesterday morning the president tweeted
watch, judge janine on fox news at 9:00 p.m. we all loved judge janine on fox news. but we were curious as to why she would call her out. there was the start of her show last night. >> my opening statement. paul ryan needs to step down as speaker of the house. >> chris: does the president want paul ryan to resign as speaker? >> reince: first of all, i will go on record, we do love judge janine, and so does the president. i think it was more coincidenta coincidental. >> chris: come on. >> reince: i did not talk to the president about the tweet. i'm just telling the truth. there is no preplanning here. >> chris: why would he say watch her and then that's the first thing out of her mouth? >> reince: if you want to do judge janine a favor, he loves judge janine. >> chris: does he want paul ryan to step down? >> reince: no he doe
he believes what he said in the oval office on friday, he doesn't blame paul ryan. he thought paul ryan worked really hard, enjoys his relationship with paul ryan, thinks that paul ryan is a great speaker of the house. none of that has changed. this is more of a personal relationship, the president helping out a friend. >> chris: i assume the friend was judge janine, not paul ryan. >> reince: both of them are. in regards to the tweet, yes. >> chris: i want to pick up on somebody else. here's what "the new york times" reports today about the president's reaction to his defeat. i'm sure you've seen this this morning. in a search for scapegoats, he, the president, asked his advisors repeatedly, whose fault was this? increasingly, the flame has fallen on reince priebus, the chief of staff who coordinated initial legislative strategy on the health care bill with mr. ryan. this is a comment similar to that in "the washington post" today. obviously people are saying it. are you in trouble? >> reince: i'm not
trouble. i've got a great relationship with the president, we talk all the time. just before coming on the set he gave me a call. this is gossip pounds, and it's always going to happen. i don't really care about it, i'm looking forward to accomplishing the president's agenda moving forward and working with anybody in the legislature to make sure that that happens. >> chris: let's talk about some items moving forward, tax reform. the president says that's the next big thing he will tackle. what's even more complicated that health care reform because it involves every industry and not just one industry, and you also have a big split within the republican party speaker ryan wants this border adjustment tax which would tax imports, not exports, and there are a lot of republicans who say no way. the question is, does the president have second thoughts after health care on following the lead of paul ryan, particularly when it comes to the border ju
tax reform in general? >> reince: it not at all. moving forward the president's vision online taxes is going to unite not just the republican party, but i think some democrats will come on board as well. we can provide one of the biggest middle class tax cuts in the history of this country, that's important. i think another thing that's important to the president as a potential border tracks. even of the playing field between our country -- he's not backing off of that. you go back and watch president trump's interview from the 1980s, the 1990s, the early 2000's. he's been talking with us his entire life. i think now more than ever he's more going to stick to his guns and his heart and the convictions that he's laid out to the american people for decades. he's not going to turn his back on his core principles
broad admiration in both parties. >> chris: i want to do this quickly if we can because we are running out of time. let's turn to the house investigation of alleged links between russia and the trump campaign. and also the allegations that the obama administration swept up surveillance and leaked it to try and undercut the current presidency. let's do a writing round. quick question. quick answer. these will be very easy. does the president except the conclusion from all sides that president obama did not wiretapped trump tower during the campaign, and is he ready to apologize? >> reince: first of all, the answer is no. >> chris: no he doesn't accept it? >> reince: no, and he doesn't -- i don't accept it. when people say obama, i think it's really clear the people say obama administration. look at this headline. this is in "the new york times." it says wiretapp d
i think it's safe to say -- speak but that's nothing about trump tower. >> reince: you asked me a question. people working at trump tower. >> chris: there was also surveillance pair would i think it's safe to say that when people use the word wiretapped, they are talking about the president hooking up wires in the telephones. >> chris: nobody saying that. >> reince: the fact is, reports of, for many months now that people on the trump campaign transition team or surveillance by potentially some intelligence group whether they were inadvertently swept up, made to unmask. you don't know is the full answer to that question, and i don't either. but the people in the trump transition were unknowingly surveilled and illegally unmasked on documents, which is what is being alleged out
i think it's a big problem and i think ultimately. president trump will be proven correct. this isn't right. >> chris: my second question, does the president believe that this was a concerted effort by the obama administration to sweep up this intelligence and to leak it to undercut the current presidency? >> reince: there's two things there, one, the links are apparent. it's obviously all over the place. i've been on your show before and i've had people in my office at the highest levels of the intelligence community volunteered, i didn't do anything wrong, they came into my office, shut my door and told me that these stories about russian contacts and collusion were ridiculous. they are injuring the president, it's wrong, and people should be prosecuted. as to whether or not to the first party of your question that there some sort of broad conspiracy, there's potentially something very wrong here. i'm not going to go any further than that other
i think the documents that the intelligence committees have apparently asked for from all over these agencies that there collecting and reviewing tell the story. >> chris: one last question for you, again, quick answer. does chairman nunes come into the white house and brief the president before he briefed his own committee, because that undercut his credibility and does not open the door to an independent investigation? >> reince: that's not for me to answer, that's for chairman nunes to answer. it's a decision he made. we don't calculate the decisions that they make and whether they've reached someone or not. >> chris: an independent investigation? >> reince: i think we let the house committee do its job and see what they come up with. by the way, they will not come up with anything. we've already been told. i have been on the show, i'm not making this stuff up. every single person has been briefed by the intelligence community has come back to the sticks and told the press, we have been told that there'so
there is some sort of collusion between the trump campaign and russia. >> chris: reince, thank you. better than last time, right? it went well. please come back. up next, one of the leaders of the house freedom caucus who played a big role in blocking the g.o.p. health care plan. i will ask congressman jim jordan whether the conservative hardliners want to govern or keep opposing their own leaders. ♪♪ ♪♪ what we do every night is like something out of
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replace bill but once again, the house freedom carcass of hard-line conservatives booked its leaders, in this case president trump and speak our mind, to block a major g.o.p. initiative. joining me now, congressman jim jordan of ohio, a founding member of the group. welcome back to's ophthalmic "fox news sunday" ." paul ryan and nancy pelosi agreed on the one thing on friday, both for here is line on the defeat of obamacare repeal and replace. here it is. >> obamacare is the law of the land. it will remain the law of the land until it is replaced. we did not have quite the votes to replace this law. we are going to be living with obamacare for the foreseeable future. >> is pretty exciting for us. yesterday our anniversary, to date a victory for the affordable care act. more importantly, for the american people. >> chris: we will be living with obamacare for the foreseeable future. present that on you and your fellow members of the freedom carcass connect >> congressman jordan: in the last segment i tnk
the freedom carcass, the club for growth. the speaker of the house, and evil sell -- let's get to work. let's get back to work i do what we told the voters we would do. this bill, at 17% of the country approved this bill. maybe the fact that we opposed it, we did that country a favor because this bill didn't repeal obamacare. this bill didn't do what we told the american people we would do. let's be responsible, get back to work and do what we told the american people what we were going to accomplish which is repeal obamacare and replace it with a patient-centered health care program. >> chris: here's the concern of the president and ryan and a number of other people. there were a number of conservative provisions in this bill. i want to put some of them up on the screen. here's just a few. first major reform of medicaid
ever. repeal individual and employer mandates. defund planned parenthood. now in large part due to the opposition of you and other members of the freedom carcass, all of that goes away. >> congressman jordan: overall legislation. did the bill repeal obamacare? no. he called it obamacare-light. did it bring down premiums? no. the premiums would continue to rise for at least three years. and didn't unite the publican party? of course it didn't. you suck conservatives and moderates in the house and senate oppose this legislation. it didn't unite our party. so i why didn't we move -- one with the goal post moves? when they didn't start with the legislation we all voted for 15 months ago, the same bill i introduced two weeks ago. what's to claim repeal in one piece of legislation and then a separate piece
obamacare. >> congressman jordan: e done that under reconciliation, there would be no subsidies to help people buy insurance or pay for their premiums and deductibles. no expanded medicaid. let me finish. no expanded medicaid to help those people. the result of a clean repeal is that millions of people who currently have health insurance coverage wouldn't. >> congressman jordan: the result of the claim repeal as we get rid of obamacare. >> chris: that has the subsidies and the expanded medicaid. >> congressman jordan: then you replace it with things that are going to bring back affordable insurance. >> chris: the flaw with that is that to get that through your going to need democratic votes. >> congressman jordan: we were going to need democratic votes for this plan. >> chris: know you weren't. not for the repeal and replace. >> congressman jordan: are was what was actually consistent with what we told the american people we were going to do.
claim repeal -- >> chris: clean repeal it would have left a million without health care. >> congressman jordan: the focus is we want to bring back affordable insurance. the left always defines success by signing people up for obamacare, signing them up for medicaid. conservatives say a better approach is to get back to market-oriented health care. bring down the cost of premiums so that middle-class people will be able to afford a plane in the private sector that actually fits their families needs, not a one-size-fits-all mandate from washington. that's the difference, that's what our plan would have accomplished. >> chris: the wrap on the freedom caucus is that you refuse to take yes for an answer. the president, i don't know -- were you in the meeting on thursday? one of the things that you were demanding you wanted the essential health benefits removed, and the president agreed to remove a number of the essential health benefits, mandates on what has to
coverage, maternity care, mental health coverage. you pocketed that and then you said no, we need more, we need you to remove the protection for people with pre-existing conditions. >> congressman jordan: we were consistent all along. that narrative is just not accurate. we were consistent all along. we want those regulations and mandates placed on that industry that drove up the cost of insurance. >> chris: so you want people who have pre-existing conditions to no longer have protection? >> congressman jordan: we were talking about community, guaranteed issue. we wanted those revisions come in that age band, in those groups, we wanted those things remove for the u.s. to bring down premiums. >> chris: if you only enter healthy people, you will have really low premiums. my point is, one of the things that you wanted to remove, the provision that would protect people, that would require insurance companies
>> congressman jordan: we want to remove the regulations that drive up the cost of insurance for middle-class and working-class. >> chris: whether they had pre-existing conditions or not. >> congressman jordan: the speaker said this in friday, there's money in the bill to set up the high risk bills. >> chris: you've also taken away the pre-existing conditions and you are also taking away -- what's good about you are going to away maternity care? >> congressman jordan: lowering the cost of insurance for every family across the country. the election in 2014 and the election in 2016 was about getting rid of this lot that was dripping up the cost of insurance for every family across this country. until you do that, those regulations that drive those costs, you will not solve the problem. this doesn't do it.
country approved at the legislation. >> chris: you've still got obamacare. the president offered a huge concession on thursday on the enhanced health benefits. you wouldn't take it, you refused to vote for the bill, and the result, you cut the legs out from under president trump and paul ryan on the first legislative initiative. >> congressman jordan: this is about the american people and what we told them we were going to do. there was no way this legislation was consistent with what the american people sent us or to accomplish. no way it was consistent with what we told them we were going to do. that's why you sought members oppose it, and that's why the freedom caucus opposed it in large part. >> chris: final question, what is your play going forward, when it comes to tax reform, trade, immigration, will you still say it's do it our way or we are not going to vote, and as a result, what happens if the president, as you heard reince priebus say, goes for moderate democrats instead? >> congressman jordan: it's do it real simp,
this doesn't do that, so let's do tax reform like we told the p.r. can people we were going to. border, build a wall, like we told them we were going to. we make this job way too complicated. do what we told the people we were going to do. it's what our -- the freedom caucus was created to do, to fight for those simple principles. we are happy to get to yes if it's accomplishing what we want to a compass. >> chris: congressman jordan, it's always good to talk with you, thank you. i enjoy the back and forth. >> congressman jordan: thank you. >> chris: up next we will bring in our sunday group to discuss the continuing controversy over the trump campaigns alleged links to russia. plus what would you like to ask about his first big legislative initiative? go to facebook or twitter, @foxnewssunday, and we may use your question on the air.
american people. >> chris: we will ask our sunday panel whether the two parties can work together a (vo) building a better health care system is challenging. but imagine what's possible if we build on what works. like rewarding care providers for achieving quality outcomes and affordability. giving states flexibility to offer high-quality, affordable care through public and private coverage platforms. and strengthening and growing employer-sponsored coverage.
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>> moving from an opposition party to a governing party comes with growing pains. we are feeling those growing pains today. >> donald trump may be a great negotiator, but he's an era for bringing this up before you're not ready. >> chris: speaker ryan taking his licks and nancy pelosi taking a bow over the defeat of the gop's plan to repeal and replace obamacare. time now for our sunday group, bill kristol from the weekly standard. welcome back. we've missed you. charles lane of "the washington post" ." susan page, washington bureau chief of usa today and former
speaker of the house newt gingrich. speaker, let me start with you. what went wrong, what should president trump and his team do differently next time, and what about speaker paul ryan? >> ryan is a brilliant policy guide. this is his first really big effort to put the other -- together a legislative package. i hope this will be a moment in the president's feet when they realize they can't win and inside game. trump's greatest strength was in the country, as reagan's greatest strength was in the country. it took us until '96 to pass welfare reform. the second round was equally simple, start with the country understanding what you are doing, and then try to do it in washington. the fake score from cbo and the absurdity of the center reconciliation bills, trying to explain a process that is hopelessly complat
average american and then saying trust us, we will fix it all in the second and third phases. profoundly miss design. >> chris: is there one person to blame for? >> i think the congressional leadership still wants to behave in the pre-trump world and i think trump trusted them and up until five days out, they kept telling him they had the votes. >> chris: we ask you for questions from the panel and we got a number on this question of the first big defeat for the drum presidency. kevin henderson tweeted, the congressional g.o.p. has six years to come up with a decent alternative, what were they doing this whole time, and mike said this on facebook, why do you think the american people will accept failure of not repealing and replacing obamacare after eight years of telling us they would? bill, how do you answer those questions, and who do you think is responsible for this failure? >> repealing and reforming parts of
time. i do think going for the huge comprehensive bill on the toughest thing to tackle, barack obama took 15 months to get majorities to get through. it was a little crazy, a lot of low-hanging fruit to get to. they can do some stuff so conservatives won't like and get the democrats on board. why would trump now want to do some easy things to continue that solution in a month? i want the wall now, 2017, not 2018. i want the defense supplement now. these are three or four things he could do in the next month which would be medium-sized victories for him. that's what you can get in the first hundred days. >> chris: let's talk about the other big story this week, and that was the continuing investigation into alleged ties between russia -- alleged ties -- between rusa
trump campaign. also the question of surveillance of the drum team and whether there was an effort to survey all and to this information. one of the big developments this week was that the chair nunes rushed to the white house to brief the president. >> what i've read bothers me, and i think it should bother the president himself and his team. >> the chairman will need to decide whether he is the chairman of an independent investigation into conduct which includes allegations of potential coordination between the trump campaign and the russians, or he is going to act as a surrogate of the white house. >> chris: chuck, did nunes make a mistake going to the white house, briefing the president before he breathed his own committee and does this open the door, this is a question i asked reince priebus, does this open the door and increase the demand for an independent investigation? >> on the second
question, obviously it's increasing the demand for an independent investigation, both in the media and elsewhere on capitol hill. john mccain talked about that this week. for good reason. you have a house body, obviously whose chairman feels it's his duty, the minute some new development takes place to run and tell him what's going on. whether or not it's a mistake, i guess it depends on what his goal was. if his goal was to remain in good graces with the trump administration, it was probably a very successful venture on his part, but it doesn't seem to me consistent with separation of powers 101. politically i think it obviously has backfired. >> you to have democrats calling for an independent commission or a special counsel. you don't really see anybody in the republican leadership going that way. it seems to meet you need some explosive new disclosure to
investigation. now i think democrats will focus more on the senate intelligence committee that has not had the kind of partisan breach that we saw this week on the house intelligence committee. the fbi investigation is going to continue no matter what. this is going to be an issue that we know from monday's testimony, just on monday it seems like so long ago that this is going to be with the chairman called a big gray cloud over the trump administration for at least months. >> chris: i want to give you a thought experiment. assume that adam schiff, the ranking democrat was the chairman of the committee and he raced to the white house to tell president obama about some information he had gotten on benghazi, let's say, before he told his committee. when you have been among the first people to cry foul on document >> we would have been deeply shocked, horrified and called an independent commissio commission. >> chris: meaning what this is just winding up usual suspects?
>> he did his job as a partisan and we would have done our job as a partisan. >> this is what paul ryan was talking about, being a governing party. he is chairman of the committee. he could actually investigate these things. it seems ridiculous for the chairman to say i have no recourse, i'm having a press conference, i'm going to go tell people and scream and yell. he's a chairman, he can actually investigate this. why send it to the white house? >> that's not what your average partisan would do. that's not the standard. >> the fact is, this whole thing is so overblown and i think with nunes listening to drum, which the media doesn't want to accept is that in fact he has some reason to believe they were under surveillance. trump got pounded on by the media for weeks. all of a sudden he says wait a second, what if it turns out he was right? i think he probably was stunned at the idea that after all this lynch mob mentality in
media, it may well turn out the donald j. trump is right and everybody in the establishment is wrong. that's why he went up to see him. >> this is not all about -- at least in the point of good governance and with the american people need, it's not about what proves the establishment wrong or right in a 24-hour news cycle. he supposed to be the chairman of the committee. >> they were really able to accuse him and a half hour. don't talk to about 24-hour news. >> chris: i'm talking about a commercial. i'm not talking about 24 hours. coming up, the terror attack this week in london increases fears over the threat of isis. we will ask the leader of iraq how is this country will control the jihadists. and how he compares president trump's control to president obama's.
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haider al-abadi. >> chris: mr. prime minister, welcome to "fox news sunday." >> prime minister: welcome to you. >> chris: let's start with the terror attack in london, which at the very least appears to be isis-inspired. what are your thoughts about what you're up, and the west can do to prevent these kinds of attacks? >> prime minister: i feel in the mome we are in a very important juncture. we in iraq have been removing them from our land. recruits are at minimal at the moment. what they are trying to now, there are two, trying to attract more recruits. we should be focused, we should be frustrated to remove these people. >> chris: to success in the middle east is spawning these attacks and the last?
dying is trying to flex his muscles at the last moment. just to finish them, they will not be able to commit such criminal acts. >> chris: in your meetings this week with president trump, with the summit of nations that is fighting isis, was there any agreement on a new strategy to fight and destroy isis in the middle east? >> prime minister: i don't think there's a final version of us agreeing on like a plan, but there is commitment from the u.s. to continue to support iraq and to continue to stay focused on anything. >> chris: president trump at various points over the last year has talked about having a secret plan to defeat isis. did he share that with you? >> prime minister: i don't think you would share his secret, but my belief is that is
it is still not there. >> chris: how close in iraq, in syria, how close is isis to defeat? >> prime minister: we finished the job in a very short time. >> chris: by one? within the next few weeks, isis will be gone from iraq? >> prime minister: they will try. that's where we need the actions of others to flush them out. >> chris: there are now 5,000 u.s. troops in iraq and the chairman of the joint chiefs talked about wanting to keep troops in your country for a long time. >> we have, as has nato, become a dialogue about a long-term commitnt
capacity of iraqi security forces. no decisions have been made yet. >> chris: how many u.s. troops do you want in iraq? >> prime minister: intelligence, cooperation. important elements which i think we need from u.s. troops to stay in iraq. >> chris: if we now have 5,000 troops there, to complete the kind of mission you're talking about, to train and assist, how many would you be? >> prime minister: with the work done, it could be much les less. >> chris: 1,000? >> prime minister: a bit more. fighting terrorism is a priority for us. it should be for everybody. it's a priority for the united states. >> chris: i want to follow up on that. do you see a difference between pres
to destroy isis and president obama's? >> prime minister: i can see a very powerful determination to defeat them. >> chris: put more determination than president trump then president obama? >> prime minister: president obama's worked, because the damage they had done by crossing the border and occupied iraqi land. spoke to the people. while i think at the moment there is understanding that iraq is an ally and we should keep what we can do to support them. >> chris: during the campaign and even
has talked about taking iraq's oil as a way to repay the u.s. for all the money we have spent in your country. >> prime minister: the old expression, to the victor go to spoils. keep the oil. >> chris: one, what do you think of that, and two, did you tell the president directly in your meeting? >> prime minister: yes i did. i told the president that the oil is for iraqis. there's no question about that. >> chris: did it upset you that he was suggested that the u.s. could take the oil command >> prime minister: of course it upset every iraqi. it upset every citizen. the wealth of the people is not right for any foreign country to take over. >> chris: one of the reasons you came to washington is because you would like continued u.s. support i do try
iraq after the war, after the attack by isis. president trump announced in his new budget that he's cutting foreign aid by 30%. >> prime minister: fighting isis and this is a danger to the whole world. we need much more to win the piece after winning the war. this i think is -- it shouldn't be just for iraq. it is not from iraq alone. it's from all over the world. >> chris: president trump talk about cutting foreign aid. >> prime minister: this is not a. this is something else to preserve your own mission. terrorism is a threat to the whole of the world. >> chris: it was largely modern countries that were included in the
ban. after you raised strong objections, iraq was taken off the list. what do you think of the travel ban in general? political policy, and have other arab leaders spent as upset about it as you were? >> prime minister: we are allies. we are victims of terrorism. it is not acceptable to us, especially when you have u.s. soldiers, u.s. officers working with iraqis in iraq. i'm working with the iraqis. i think that's a major point that was rectified and i'm very thankful. >> chris: after 14 years in iraq, america wonder what's going to happen to your country at one of the big concerns as this. can you guarantee that enron will not have undue influence or even control over some parts
iraq? >> prime minister: iraq is for iraqis. iraqis are nationalist. they don't accept anybody controlling them. >> chris: put it around plays a big role in the shield parts of the country. >> prime minister: the neighbors play a role. we want to pretend that -- prevent the bad side. >> chris: finally, ever since we talked saddam hussein, it seems that the different parts of the country, the sunni section, the shia section have each pursued different interests. how comfortable are you that iraq will remain a stable and democratic nation? >> prime minister: is happening. there's a freedom of election, we hold elections every four years. this is going on
difficulties. east support and west support of it. it was important to remove saddam hussein from power. he killed the people. people are sharing the new iraq. >> chris: mr. per minister, thank you, and safe travel home. >> prime minister: thank you. >> chris: and we will be right back with a final word.
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