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tv   Matter of Fact With Soledad O Brien  FOX  July 2, 2018 1:00am-1:30am EDT

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did america create an immigration problem+? ee>> at the ceo caught in the middle of presidents trump' trade war. brings uncertainty.e it >> why is it not all president trump's fault? and a stereotype keeping asian students out of american colleges. andverything that you know about the american flag is probably wro. who really stitched those broad st here is a hint. it is not betsy ross.
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soledad: i am solo that o'brie. america is tightening its mortars against illegal immigration. esident trump a victory whe it overturned the third ban ofh. thrnment is scrambling to anreunite thousands of imt children separated from their parents at the u.s.-mexico border. it would be easy to assume that immigration laws.had tough we are joined byho ther of "inventing the immigration problem. to hear the ratcheted up rhetoric today, you would think we are cometely off the charts in terms ofes perce in terms of coming to this country historically for the united states.
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walk mehrough the story of immigration in this country. , i ll walk you throughhe t -- >> i will walk you through the laws that basically didn't exist. we had a giant nation that was that we had any kind eralple.n'y laws regulating immigration. federal laws begin wasre an influx that was too much to handle? get the first incremental laws toward creating even a rudimentary architecture of federal immigration enforcement. the most famous one is the chinese exclusion act which product of vicious anti-chinese mobilind racism that comes
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out of grassroots lobbying in california. along with that is another law that creates for the first time a federal bureau of and think -- of immigration. soledad: were those laws passed because the number of immigrants wasem problic or because there is a high racial cponent and a lot of fear about other people coming iand suddenly displacing the people who feltl? >> it is a great question. therhas to be an animus against immigration, and there has to be believed belief that job to enforcimmigration laws. what is interesting with the 1882 laws that numbers arejust. the dillingham commission
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actually labeled the group new immigrants, it was those from eastern d southern europe, italians,ews, slavs, greeks they were just srting to come in large nombers. the dillinghmission said we are concerned about these new immigrants because we think ey are the least a civil -- assimilable. soledad: they thought they would never assimilate? katherine: ty thought the numbers were too high for them to assimilate. many said, we don't think they are raciallynferior. there weresa lots of folks who that. they said we just think there are too many and we cannot assimilate them fast enough. soledad: are the reasons people were coming significantly different from the reasons today? katherine: ty are very similar.they were coming for enc
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reasons and tove improve their s. you look at the lives of sicilian men who would come to work and send their money home to villages in italy, it is a most exactly like when youear about mexican migrants who avtrelthey were fleeing religios rsecution and violence fo m european jews whnded to come as families. threasons were similar. thank you for joi us. >> next, president trump's tariffs t cank her $40 million business but she thinks he is not to blame. >> i think he does't have the right team members giving the right advice. >> plus, should grace play a factor icollege admissions? will medicaid recipients become healthie and mor -♪ he's got legs of lumber and arms of steel ♪
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ledad: president trump argues that tariffs, a tax on products imported from overseas are important for national security and will he even tweeteeconomy. are good and easy to win. sayhe president's trade policy is costing millions in revenue among the companies who have. criticized the move isvi a realy dson. they announced this past week they would have to move reduction out of thu.s. saying the president's wi-fi percent tax on foreign steel ail foreign aluminum w costil $lion. esident trump tweeted, if they move, watch, it will be the beginning of the end,ikhey will be taxed lnever before. it is not just harley davidson,
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the largesssnail manufacturer in ouri says that tariffs have pushed them to the brink of closureo. and anpl supr out of michigan once they will not last the quarter. joining us now is mary buchzeig. mary: thank you for having me. soledad: tell us a little bit about it. mary: we are a worldwide manufacturer. wey anufacture parts not onl the u., but china a taiwan and we are getting into european operations as well. and we produce roughly 80% of our products throughout china and taiwan right now. soledad: you've grown pretty impressively. what i read was you had revenues in 40 million dollars and you were looking realistically at 50
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million dollars. is that right? mary: yes that is right. erovhe last ten years we have come from under 2 million dollarin sales to over 40. and with our current contracts and our growth recorwhere we're at right now we should be at over 50 next year. our ultimate goal is to be a billion dollar company in thext 10 years. which has a nice ring to it , doesn't it? merry: it does. soledad so you've been remove o : from this f the 25 percent tariff, which i know was ki b of what sent you into a of a tailspin the other key. you've been taoff that list. what tariffs do you fac right now? what is the risk? mary so we were taken off the : original list of 301s. unfortunately on may 2013 our administration came out with a new investigation into the section 232 tariffs stating thap they were going tosibly put a tariff on all imported vecles and all imported automotive components.d:
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soleda y i had read ou were generally -- genuinely concerned thru your business mighggle or not last through the quarter is that still true? you think that is a possibility? mary: if these tariffskeere to effect. absolutely. we pot business.uld go out of yeah i mean the original section 301 tariffs uld have cost us over 7.5 million dollars annually. i don't have that kind o40margin in million dollar company. so we would have been out of busiop nehi wit3 n 2-with a section 30. inow this new section 232 again we don't know the answers. soledad: t you're amp voterngisn a plan to get into a tariff ca fight with china. change because you know there are - there are trade deficits.
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there are definitely technological- technology issues with china. but we would he for a better execution. tariffs are no more than a tax on american dompanies. and i n't think that really people understand that. sodad: i think you're right about that i don't think ople - it sounds very fancy. but it's just consumers pay more.hat's the takeway. katherine: -- mary: that is all it is. people don't get that it's a tax on american companans and am consumers. if these, if all of these tariffs that are in place right now against the automotive industry were toactud they're estimating right now, the global automotive alliance, right now is estimating that vehicles cou go up by more thanve $6,000 per cle. so at the end of the day that's just the american consumer paying these. soledad: what happens i' american consumers dt pay it and people don't buy vehicles and -- mary: people lose their jobs. soledad: so lin dunn: --
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soledad: mary buchzeiger so nice to have yo thanks for your time. them when we come back, our white students the reason asian can't get into harva and how did a little known words on one ofmerica's latest treasures. >> had don early's light, he saw the flag was still there, but do you know how the flag got there? cz z16fz
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vp cy y16fy soledad: whenci it comes tal
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stereotypes, a common one is del minority.inicansmo are the accord to the pew research center the median household income for asian-americans is $73,000 per year. we should note that there are huge income variations in the
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asian-american population with whom the burmese and the nelese are at the lowest end of the spectrum. he bestdud racial group in the united sta more than half have a bachelors degree. when it comes to gettime into college, asirican students score on average 50 points than whn sats studentsig and more points hr than black and hispanic students. one group says they are being punished for their success saying that the school limited the number of asian students and preference for white sdents. jeannie is a professor at harvard law school and joins us from harvard. can you walk us through this lauit? can you explain what is at stake? jeannie: the lawsuit takes place
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under a la called title vi. involves a federal lawhat prohibits discrimination in activities and programs that receive federal funding. harvardit univers does receive federal funding anddo many colleges aniversities in the country. itor istant that those alleges and universitiesid discriminating on the basis of race. sola done: --soledad: now the iquestion that's been as in fact are asians disadvantaged when it comes to getting into harvard university. is the simple answer to that question, "yes, yes they are.".n jeanni i think the answer isey yes thre. but i don't think that it's a very simple k that when you have a value of diversity, then you have to have some amount of taking into account of people's
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backgrounds. and that cou be all kinds of different backgrounds whether it's racial, ethnic, class or the opportunities that one has had, the hardships that one has had to overcome. soledad:' many college't talk about quotas but they will to can read -- create a community which means we need x number of llet dancers, x number of football players, x number of people from these areas and this area and that allows themo the variabili say sat scores and test gradeswe are not just what ook at. is that going to be a challenging legal argument? jeannie: well, so the word quotas is a very vexed word. it is word that is forbidden, a concept that is forbidden, because of a supreme court case from the970's that forbade schools to take into account race in the sense of having a racial quota.
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however, the supreme couou has sa can take into account race as one of many variables that y consider in admitting a candidate. and so as long as you think of its one variable among man is permitted under law. soledad: what do you think is the ultimate impact of this lawsuit? jeannie: i think the ultimate impact of this lawsuit regardless of whether harvard wins oloses, is that there searching about its adions process.t i think the lais useful for shifting that conversation from thinking that it's a zero sum game latino students and then everybody else who gets oustedpo from tt that they deserved. and so when you're doing affirmative action, i think it's very easy to put the blame on black and latino students forn the lack of admiof certain individuals of different groups.
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but what i think willt productively come ou this lawsuit is a conversation about how white studts are benefiting at the expense ofup other minority gro soledad: professor jeannie suk gerson at harvard law school. thank you so much for your time. nice to have you. jeannie: thank you soledad. >> coming upof next, millions americans receive free health should they have to wo it? and what do you reably know t the most famous american flag? if you think besty ross stitched you're ].
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who? soledad: now to our weekly feature we like to call weon are paying att even if you are too busy. michigan's republican governorro recently appd a controversial new work cipients.nt foremedicaid under the w bill, medicaid recipients could have to work at least 80 hours a monthalo
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receivth care. there are exemptions for people who are elderly, pregnant or have disabilities. an earlier version of the bill sparked accusations of racism, because it initially included an exemption for people living in rural counti with high unemploymentes rathich were predominantly white. ile people living in majority black cities like detroit and flint, michigan, would not have received an exemption eventh gh they also lived in areas with high unemployment rates. that provision was removed from the final in 2010 presidena expanded medicaid eligibility to non- disabled americans without children as part of the affordable care act. in january, at and a chat -- int obamacare president trumpes allowed stato apply for waivers to design their own medicaid eligibility rules including work quirements. if the trumpat adminion approves michigan's plan, it will become the fifth state to implement a work requirement along with kentucky, indiana,
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arkansas, and new hampshire. requests from seven other states are still pending.n nationwide, more tha million americans are enrolled in medicaid. hen we return, does the star-spangled banner yet wave?
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soledad: you are liky to hear "the star-spangled banner" next week as you celebrate the fourth of july. american flags will proudly ve roon f porches, over national monuments, and during parabes. many people belitsy ross behind those broad stripes and bright stars, and they would he wrong. thator actually goes to mary pickersgill -- what, who? well, she ran a flag makingba businessltimore.
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as the were of 1812 dragged on , commissioned pickers to sew two flags for fort mchenry in including one so large the 1813 british could see ilefrom s away. with the help of her mht, er, nieces, and an indentured servant, pickersgill crafted a massive, 30 by 42 ot flag in just six weeks. in 1814, british forces attacked for the cannery with bombs bursting in air for 25 hours. francis scott key wain the harbor during the battle of baltimore and "at dawn's early " light" he saw the flag was stillh there." hoistedas a signal of victory. he was so moved he penned a poem in attribute forever commemorating the star spangled manner. pickersgill's historic flag is on permane display at thenationn that is a fact.on, d.c.. i'm soledad o'brien.
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we'll see you back here next week for morema "er of fact or co- --matter of fact. z2vpcz zfz
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