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governors of this region. that would be bad strategy, steve. and i think that if we make that mistake again -- then shame on us. >> do you think the world is a safer place? >> america is a safer place. i think that there are places obviously like syria that are not safer than when i came into office. but in terms tough us protecting ourselves against terrorism, in terms of us making sure that we are strengthening our alliances, in terms of our reputation
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around the world, absolutely we're stronger. >> when the overnight news returns, john dickerson discusses with donald trump and ben carson. couldn't keep up. so i switched to tide pods. they're super concentrated so i get a better clean. 15% cleaning ingredients or 90%. don't pay for water, pay for clean. that's my tide.
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rawr... dare to feel more with new k-y love. the latest cbs news poll shows the race for the republican presidential nomination is tightening up. donald trump is the front-runner at 27%. ben carson is closing the gap. now at 21%. the gop has an immediate pressing concern finding a new speaker of the house. john dickerson discussed the issue with trump and carson for "face the nation." >> paul ryan is mentioned as possible speaker. what do you think of paul ryan? >> somebody they could get good support. he is a very nice person. i think he doesn't want it very badly. maybe he is playing one of the great games of all time.
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speaker of the house is a great position. he doesn't seem to want it. if it us offered to him he would take it. >> you want some body strong. is paul ryan strong? >> i think he is strong. when mitt romney chose him it was a tough choice the he has been anti-medicare, medicaid, social security, in a sense. he will say he hasn't been. they played that up hard. that was a disastrous campaign for a lot of reasons. but paul ryan is a good man. i know him very little. but i think he is a very good person. >> you would be okay with speaker paul ryan. >> i would be okay. it may not be him. a couple people in there. not going to mention name. people that are really tough and really smart. right now that's what we need. the republicans never win. john, they never win. everything whether it's on obamacare, whether it's on the debt ceiling, whether, no matter what we have, there is never, ever a victory. so we need a toughness we don't have there right now. >> you said republican should do, quoting from you here, something, really, really significant with the coming debt ceiling vote. the vote on whether the united states government can keep borrowing money. what can republicans do? >> john, if you go back and check. i have been saying this for three years.
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that is a tremendously powerful weapon. if they knew how to use it. the problem, you have 70% of the republicans say, we're not closing government. now when you say that. i wrote the art of the deal. when you say that. the other side says we have 70% of the people, says it is not going to happen. the other 30% are rendered useless. really unfair to them. they're left out there hanging. so, you need somebody that can unify, be tough and win against the democrats and against others. in all fairness. against the world essentially. but they really do have a tremendously powerful weapon. they don't use it. they don't use it properly. they're terrible negotiators. >> john boehner after he
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announced he was resigning, said there were false prophets in the republican party, the false prophets are whipping people into a frenzy believing they can accomplish things they know are never going to happen. he is kind of talking about you. >> i don't think so. i know him and like him on a personal basis. i do think they should be tougher. here is the problem. when he says false prophets, you cannot win when you have 20% or 30% on this side. a group of 70% on this side say we are never going with the 30% who want more. that's what is happening the every time i watch it. it is so sad. if they were really unified and took the 30% stance. they really wanted to make changes and do it right and cut the budget. cut the deficit do things they should be doing. if they took the group. if everybody was unified. obama would fold. but there is no reason for him to ever fold. because he knows that, a big proportion, vast majority of the republicans are on his side. >> i want to ask you about your view on the use of military power. you say in personal relations you are a counter puncher. you don't hit until you are hit. is that a good way to think of how you would use military force? >> i am the most military based,
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on your show. i want a much stronger military. so strong. nobody is going to mess with us. take care of our vets treated terribly. third-class citizens the we have illegal immigrants that are being treated better than our great vets. they're like, third-class citizens. they're going to be taken care of. we have to make our military strong and hopefully never have to use it. >> dr. carson, big news in washington is about the vacant speakership in the house. what do you think about paul ryan for the job? >> i like paul ryan. i think he would do a fine job. i hope that all of the people who are being kidded will have an opportunity to, to put forth their philosophy on leadership. and that the, members can make an intelligence decision. >> what do you make of what is hatch penning in the house of representatives -- happening in the house of representatives among the republicans right now? >> you know, over the last few elections a lot of people have been sent to washington with the thought that maybe some changes could be made. i don't think anyone is seeing
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changes. the electorate is getting frustrated. reflected in washington right now. >> talk to you about your book and comments you made this week. a lot of talk about comments you made in which you said the -- i want to talk about the context of that statement. in your book, there is a passage, in which you say -- so, i want to ask you, who wants to confiscate all the guns of the american citizens? >> what i am talking about is the reason we have a 2nd amendment. this is a book about the constitution. and the 2nd amendment is part of it. it is therefore the reasons that
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i stated in the book, specifically, in case of an invasion by foreign power. the people will be able to aid the military. and also, if, if we have a time when we have the wrong people in office, and they want to dominate the people, the people will be able to defend themselves as daniel webster eloquently said. the people of america will never suffer under tyranny because they are armed. >> in the book it suggests there is, i just want to make sure i read this right. whenyou talk about confiscating the guns of american citizens. do you think that's a present threat, the notion that guns would be confiscated from american citizens? >> no. it is something, many of the things that are in the constitution are to, to help to prevent horrible things from happening. so they're in place to make sure that the people maintain their liberties and that the
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government remains constrained. those are the two purposes. >> i think a get that speaks to what you are talking about also in your book, you say that you were once a supporter of a ban on assault weapons and armor piercing bullets. but then as you say in your book, you realized, recognize the intent of the second amendment which is to protect the freedom of the people from an overly aggressive government. it sound like you are saying the idea of an overly aggressive government that would require that kind of resistance is a clear and present danger. do you see it that way? >> i didn't say it was going on right now. i think the -- the implication is quite clear that it is something that can happen. and i listed a number of countries where that kind of thing happened. fact of the matter is if you go to the countries well before it happened and asked the people if that is going to happen in their country. they would say, oh, no, no, no. wouldn't happen here. >> that's what interests me. so many people are distrustful
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of the government. angry at the government. you mentioned some countries. and also the context in which you said the people in germany dent speak up when nazism was on the rise. i guess, what i wonder is do you think it is that close here or just hyperbole to use the nazi analogies. >> it's not hyperbole at all. whether the is on our doorstep or whether 50 years away, it is still a concern. and something that we must guard against. that's one of the real purposes of having a constitution. i think the founders were really quite insightful into looking at possibilities and understanding what is happened in other places and trying to put together something that would prevent that from happening here. you know there are a lot of people in the media who will take anything you say and try to make it into hyperbole and make
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it into controversy. but the fact of the matter is when you talk to average american citizens they know exactly what i am talking about. >> but the extermination of an entire race, the nazi goal, that is a pretty big thing to compare our current situation too. i guess that has people confused? >> you do not want to got there. >> dr. ben carson. thank you so much. >> the "cbs overnight news" will be right back. ♪ it's the final countdown! ♪ ♪ the final countdown! if you're the band europe, you love a final countdown. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. spending the day with my niece. that make me smile. i don't use super poligrip for hold, because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures
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north korea celebrated its
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70th anniversary this weekend. the north korean government invited foreign journalists to watch the spectacle. but as seth doan found out they were kept on a short leash. >> reporter: they may be the most secretive country on earth, but they sure know how to put on a show. this was saturday night's torch parade. featuring tens of thousand of people running in sync with real-life torches. through the spitting rain on slippery kim il-song square. we watched. mesmerized. also watching was kim jung-un. north korea's 30-something ruler, and who had quite a day of parades. earlier saturday he presided over perhaps the biggest ever ceremony military might in north korea history. one of the things you can't quite appreciate when you see this on television --
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with all of this goose stepping while you are standing here, the ground is shaking. this was saber rattling on a grand scale. kim made it clear in a speech saturday that america should take note. kim called the u.s. a tyrant and said the dprk was ready to defend itself if provoked. after the parade this 36-year-old railway worker told us seeing kim jong-un in person for the first time gave her butterflies and she added she felt safe seeing the massive show of force. >> reporter: i am an american, what do you think about that? >> i didn't know you were an american, she giggled. you are not as evil as the what i read about in books. well it is rare for americans, even more so for american journalists to be granted access. the price of admission for foreign journalists entering north korea is that the government decide exactly what
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you see. we're taken to tourist sites with absolutely no news value. and to subway stations built decade ago. though even here among the out of date details you glimpse just how significant the government's role is in every day life. be it leaders' pictures on subway cars or even on pins. as americans we hear that life in north korea is difficult. does it feel that way to you? >> no, we are living a really happy life, cho chul yung said. there is no mafia here. there is no burglary here. there is a strong government. at least that's what they wanted us to see. in this carefully stage managed production it can be hard to tell when the show begins and when it ends. so, after the spectacle of this weekend's massive military parade, there was something almost refreshing about seeing what came next.
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captioning funded by cbs it's monday, october 12th, 2015. this is the "cbs morning news." president obama weighs in on the 2016 presidential race. southwest airlines scrambled to fix a computer glitch that left thousands of passengers diamond. could be more drama on the diamond tonight after a new york mets was injured during a hard slide during saturday night's playoff game. good morning from the studio 57 newsroom at cbs news headquarters in new york. thanks for joining us.


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