A Challenge For Antifascists, Journalists, And O9A Critics
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Unless and until antifascists, journalists, and O9A critics provide evidence, then their recent or historical claims and allegations in respect of the Order of Nine Angles and Mr Myatt will remain just unproven claims and allegations and should be treated as such with a rational person thus free to conclude that such claims and allegations are propaganda, or lies, or misinformation or fake news designed or spread to maliciously or out of prejudice or out of ignorance to discredit O9A philosophy
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June 5, 2022
Subject: Leave Myatt Alone
Subject: Leave Myatt Alone
Girl Goddess isn't about pedophilia. And Myatt is not pro rape or pro pedophilia. And it has never been proven Myatt is Long.
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November 8, 2021
Subject: On Hypocritical Pedophilic Bullshit Artists
Subject: On Hypocritical Pedophilic Bullshit Artists
3. Fenrir 1990 volume 2 no. 1 includes a story about pedophilia called The Girl Goddess and cites Myatt's translation of Sappho. Nobody besides Myatt himself and people who study O9A pays any attention to Myatt's translations, of Sappho, Pymander or anything else, so this is a clear giveaway that it's his work. Later issues of Fenrir included extracts from the pedophilic Iron Gates novel and even drawings of a child being abused, the same drawings that were in Predator, the Tempel ov Blood's private journal. When pressed on Ryan Fleming's repeated sexual offenses against minors and the mentally handicapped on Stormfront, "darklogos" (who is recognizably Myatt/you by his writing style and obsession with Myatt) dismissed Fleming's crimes as "his own decision".
Now maybe it's the case (it's not) that Myatt is clean as a whistle and everyone else associated with O9A just happens to be pro-pedophilia but in that case Myatt is a total failure. Whether Myatt himself supports rape and pedophilia (he does), O9A as a pseudo-organization and memetic complex provably supports rape and pedophilia and has inspired people to act upon that support.
4. I'll let Chloe Ortega, former Outer Representative of the O9A, speak for me.
"I honestly believe – the key word is BELIEVE – that David Myatt and Anton Long are the same person. For several reasons, and I will briefly go over those reasons:
I. I’m not retarded. I pay attention to Style of Writing, Nuances in texts and articulation, vocabulary/lexicon, slang, argot, choice of words, choice of wording, sentence structure, fashion of personality expression, culture/habit of thought/thinking, punctuational irregularities, spelling mistakes, and the writer’s voice [if you are a writer, a book author, a poet, journalist, you’ll know what your writer’s voice is]. And using all of those, plus Occam’s Razor [where the answer with the least amount of assumptions is the most likely answer; the quickest path between two points is a straight line, as opposed to a convoluted path]: my opinion, since 2006 has always been that David Myatt and Anton Long are the same individual.
II. People who genuinely and honestly like the o9a and respect Anton Long, would actually never pretend to be him or use that pen name. For as long as I have been around o9a, I have not known any person in o9a who was disrespectful enough to use the pen name “Anton Long.”
III. David Myatt and Anton Long think alike. If they are two different people: they are unoriginal and often steal each other’s ideas, words, concepts: and tellingly neither has ever accused the other of plagiarism in 50 years!
IV. One or two old ONA texts were signed with the name “David Myatt” and not “Anton Long,” but were eventually signed by the pen name “Anton Long.”
V. During all those times that I interacted with the Old Guards via emails and cyberspace, not a single one of them told me that I was in error in believing that David Myatt was Anton Long; and those Old Guards are personally known to Anton Long. In fact, in such emails, we used DM and AL interchangeably, as if all parties involved in the conversation simply understood that the two were the same.
In private conversations, we spoke about DM and AL with the understanding that they were the same person, but in public, we played games with people by saying different things, like Anton Long is a pen name used by multiple people, or that AL was an Oxford professor."
And because I know you'll try to say the outer representatives were part of the labyrinthus mythologicus (it's just a jape bro) here's Chloe talking about how formal that role was in Nexion 1.0. "It was like, my job all of a sudden was to give the green light on projects, give people my stamp of approval, validate every other person’s ONA membership, authorize nexions, and so on." Also mentions running the "business side" of the O9A and handing in resignation papers when she stepped down as OR. Hardly sounds like a completely decentralized kollective/subculture to me.
Now maybe it's the case (it's not) that Myatt is clean as a whistle and everyone else associated with O9A just happens to be pro-pedophilia but in that case Myatt is a total failure. Whether Myatt himself supports rape and pedophilia (he does), O9A as a pseudo-organization and memetic complex provably supports rape and pedophilia and has inspired people to act upon that support.
4. I'll let Chloe Ortega, former Outer Representative of the O9A, speak for me.
"I honestly believe – the key word is BELIEVE – that David Myatt and Anton Long are the same person. For several reasons, and I will briefly go over those reasons:
I. I’m not retarded. I pay attention to Style of Writing, Nuances in texts and articulation, vocabulary/lexicon, slang, argot, choice of words, choice of wording, sentence structure, fashion of personality expression, culture/habit of thought/thinking, punctuational irregularities, spelling mistakes, and the writer’s voice [if you are a writer, a book author, a poet, journalist, you’ll know what your writer’s voice is]. And using all of those, plus Occam’s Razor [where the answer with the least amount of assumptions is the most likely answer; the quickest path between two points is a straight line, as opposed to a convoluted path]: my opinion, since 2006 has always been that David Myatt and Anton Long are the same individual.
II. People who genuinely and honestly like the o9a and respect Anton Long, would actually never pretend to be him or use that pen name. For as long as I have been around o9a, I have not known any person in o9a who was disrespectful enough to use the pen name “Anton Long.”
III. David Myatt and Anton Long think alike. If they are two different people: they are unoriginal and often steal each other’s ideas, words, concepts: and tellingly neither has ever accused the other of plagiarism in 50 years!
IV. One or two old ONA texts were signed with the name “David Myatt” and not “Anton Long,” but were eventually signed by the pen name “Anton Long.”
V. During all those times that I interacted with the Old Guards via emails and cyberspace, not a single one of them told me that I was in error in believing that David Myatt was Anton Long; and those Old Guards are personally known to Anton Long. In fact, in such emails, we used DM and AL interchangeably, as if all parties involved in the conversation simply understood that the two were the same.
In private conversations, we spoke about DM and AL with the understanding that they were the same person, but in public, we played games with people by saying different things, like Anton Long is a pen name used by multiple people, or that AL was an Oxford professor."
And because I know you'll try to say the outer representatives were part of the labyrinthus mythologicus (it's just a jape bro) here's Chloe talking about how formal that role was in Nexion 1.0. "It was like, my job all of a sudden was to give the green light on projects, give people my stamp of approval, validate every other person’s ONA membership, authorize nexions, and so on." Also mentions running the "business side" of the O9A and handing in resignation papers when she stepped down as OR. Hardly sounds like a completely decentralized kollective/subculture to me.
Reviewer:
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November 7, 2021
Subject: Lost Control Of ONA
Subject: Lost Control Of ONA
David Myatt has lost the ability to control the ONA. It's grown too big and people want more than the same old things Myatt (under whatever pseudonym) has been producing.
The two main indications that Myatt has lost all control of ONA is that the Tempel ov Blood was able to hijack the ONA, and the FBI were also able to take control of it and make it into something extreme and very different.
The two main indications that Myatt has lost all control of ONA is that the Tempel ov Blood was able to hijack the ONA, and the FBI were also able to take control of it and make it into something extreme and very different.
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