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Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
by Jeffrey Mishlove and Pierre Grimes
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Synopsis Jeffrey Mishlove interviews Pierre Grimes on Jeffrey's online program, New Thinking Allowed . We are not sure of the copyright status so for now we are only providing links to these videos on Jeffrey's YouTube channel, rather than storing copies of the videos here on archive.org. Thank you, Jeffrey, for interviewing Pierre. We love your channel and your long wonderful line of fascinating guests! Interviews on YouTube: 2017-10-03 Plato's Republic 2017-10-03 Philosophical Midwifery...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSNTA, pg1, dreams, psychedelics, mysticism, mindfulness
Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
by Juan and Maria Balboa
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Synopsis Juan and Maria Balboa translation of The Gospel of John . Interlinear modern English with Greek words rearranged in each sentence in order to correspond to their English word counterparts immediately above. This translation was done at the request of Pierre Grimes, looking more carefully at all the occurrences of "αυτο", and seeing whether they could be translated as "Self". Also others. Download-able from the PDF link in the "Download Options" menu on...
Topics: philosophy, plato, john, new-testament, christianity
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by Juan and Maria Balboa
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Synopsis Two years in the making, Juan and Maria Balboa have translated Homer's  classic, the Iliad . Interlinear English and Greek, with the Greek word order rearranged to match the English, as an assistance to the reader. With Introduction by Juan Balboa and Prologue by Pierre Grimes, Phd. In their translation, the Balboas give special focus to the translation of the appearances of 'αυτο' ('Self'). Published in two volumes: Volume 1 contains books 1-12. Volume 2  contains books 13-24....
Topics: philosophy, plato, homer, iliad
Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
by Juan and Maria Balboa
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Juan and Maria Balboa translation of Plato's "Menon".  Inter-linear Greek and English.  In PDF format. Juan and Maria are students of Pierre Grimes , and members of the Noetic Society . They have contributed this translation to the Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.  Thank you both! For more information, please visit the Juan and Maria Balboa page at the Noetic Society website.
Topics: philosophy, plato, meno
Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
by Juan and Maria Balboa
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Synopsis Juan and Maria Balboa translation of Synesios' On the Logos of Dreams . Interlinear modern English with ancient (Attic) Greek words rearranged in each sentence in order to correspond to their English word counterparts immediately above. Download-able from the PDF link in the "Download Options" menu on this page. Thank you, Juan and Maria! More Info More information on the Balboa translations Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and...
Topics: philosophy, plato, synesios, on-the-logos-of-dreams
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by Juan and Maria Balboa
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Juan and Maria Balboa translation of Introduction to Arithmetic by Nicomachus of Gerasa . Books 1 & 2. (Book 1: 23 chapters total; Book 2: 29 chapters total).  Click 'PDF' in the Download Options menu.  Juan and Maria are students of Pierre Grimes , and members of the Noetic Society . They have contributed this translation to the Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.  Thank you both! For more information, see the Juan and Maria Balboa page at the Noetic...
Topics: philosophy, plato, pythagoras, nicomachus, introduction-to-arithmetic
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by Juan and Maria Balboa
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Synopsis Juan and Maria Balboa translation of The Gospel of Mark . Interlinear modern English with Greek words rearranged in each sentence in order to correspond to their English word counterparts immediately above. This translation was done at the request of Pierre Grimes, looking more carefully at all the occurrences of "αυτο", and seeing whether they could be translated as "Self". Also others. Download-able from the PDF link in the "Download Options" menu on...
Topics: philosophy, plato, mark, new-testament, christianity
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by Pierre Grimes
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Synopsis This is a dialogue Pierre wrote while he was down with the flu briefly in November 2018.  He had us read it at our next NS meeting, Friday .
Topics: philosophy, plato, grimes
Synopsis This is Pierre Grimes' fourth in a series of articles on the subject of philosophy, philosophical counseling, philosophical midwifery, and The Self, published in Philosophical Practice , the journal of the American Philosophical Practitioners Association (of which Pierre was the founder) with permissions of the author and the editor. It is reproduced here under a Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 4.0 International license . Pierre is the inventor of philosophical midwifery in its modern sense,...
Topics: plato, philosophy, parmenides, republic, self, logos, pathologos, pg1, appa-journal,...
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by Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Sections: Imperfection, part 2 Synopsis In a way, a continuation of last week's talk . Pierre leads the Friday night NS attenders through a 'reminder' session, regarding what they already know about the Providential world they live in (though it can certainly seem the opposite). This subject is also continued in the next morning's Saturday chat . More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1
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Another great Friday night with Pierre. As he has so often done over the years, he takes a seat and lets us try our hand at dreamwork and mid-wifery with each other, only jumping in to help when we get stuck. Belinda does two dreams, first with Josh as "midwife", then on the second dream with JeffL as midwife. Jed explores his dream with JeffL taking an initial shot at being the midwife, then Pierre taking over. JulieP midwifes Don on his dream, and shows us all how it is done. :-)...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
[Audio only for this Saturday: I was just too low energy to manage video today.] 0:00:30 Discussion of Barbara's recent translating of Proposition 7 of Proclus' Elements of Theology ("Every productive cause is superior to that which it produces.") 0:09:00 Pierre announces that he has gotten a job training clinical psychologists in treating addiction using his philosophical midwifery 0:19:45 JeffS explores a dream with Pierre (2-19-2018 JeffS)These ideas come in triplets. And each...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Pierre's video response to a set of questions from Adina via email: By what means / methods can we understand Enlightenment, our problems and experiences? What is the role of dreams? How can they be understood? Why is it important not to interpret them? What is the role of reflection? What is Ousia & the Logos? What is the meaning of Life? What is the Self? What is the Nature of Ultimate Reality? Does the Self need a Soul? Why is turning to the Self practical ? What is the function of True...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSMISC, pg1
Synopsis Pierre Grimes, PhD leads the Noetic Society through another brilliant weekend seminar increasing our understanding. This time Pierre helps us re-consider the training of the philosopher-king from the perspective of the One-Self ('emptiness', 'non-atman', etc.) vs Divine Luminosity ('bliss', 'Mind', etc.), via references from books 6 and 7 of Plato's "Republic", as translated by our own Juan and Maria Balboa , and via the hypotheses laid out in the Balboa translation of...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSEM, pg1, republic, parmenides, mysticism, book06, book07, hyp1, hyp2
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we focus on the first paragraph of chapter 7 of book 2 of Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) . [I did not attend this meeting, and today's diagram is not from Pierre.  It is only from myself as I listened...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus, book02, chap07, republic, chap06
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Synopsis What power do words have? Why are they needed for spiritual growth? More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1
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Eldar explores a dream with Pierre. Text of Dreams Eldar's dream My dad is on a mission to buy a car. And his friend Hariz and I are watching him go through the motions of that. And we’re worried about him. Because he’s:doing it in that manic, obsessive, back-and-forth, tragic kind of way. Really he . doesn’t need a new car. So I’m talking to Hariz about him. I know that Hariz also sees: what I see. I say something like “So have you tried talking him out of it?” He says...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Sections: Dream Exploration: Eldar Eldar explores a dream with Pierre. Dream Text Eldar’s Dream 06/04/18 1. I am trying to use the restroom in some place that seems like a motel in Mexico, in kind of a run-down, ghetto kind of neighbourhood. I think I have a room there; I'm staying there temporarily. I need to pee. I'm about to pee and there’s somebody chasing me. That somebody is just outside of the door of my stall and they’re trying to get in. I think it’s a little man. He’s out to...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Attendees Pierre, Regina, Barbara, JulieH, Eldar, KevinG, JeffS, SteveD Synopsis Another lovely Saturday morning coffee with Pierre -- this one out in Regina's back yard. Time-table 0:00:30 Pierre dialogues with Regina about her family game 0:20:50 Barbara's two dreams from that morning 1:01:30 Dialogue with KevinG to help him think through a life problem he is facing 2:02:04 JeffS's dream, 9 umbrellas (after everyone has read it) Dream Texts Barbara's Dreams Dream 1 - Saturday, September 8,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp5 Sections: 159b-160b (P1-P18) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, JulieP, Eldar Notes How is 5 or 6 necessary, after hyp4? The Role of 'Difference' Rejection of the idea of likeness and unlikeness being inherent in the selves (in the 5th) Therefore, we can turn it around and say, is it not interesting that likeness and unlikeness ARE inherent in selves? For if they were inherent in selves, they could then be said to be like and unlike....
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp5
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book01;chap11 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, KevinG, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads our Parmenides morning study group through Chapter 11 of Book 1 of Proclus' Theology of Plato .(*) More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato: We are using for now the Thomas Taylor translation: Volume Eight in the Thomas Taylor series, ISBN-10: 978-1898910-077, as published by Prometheus Trust and available in the UK through them directly , or in the USA...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp8,hyp4 Sections: 165c-165e (P20-P24), 158b (P15) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, Eldar, Regina 165c P20 additions: "and by appearing to be like.." Comparing the 8th hypothesis here to the shadows on the wall of the allegory of the Cave (in The Republic) 0:16:40 P22 What is a phantasm? Does its origin lie in "the different"? In any universe, if there are 2 things, and one is a phantom of the other, there is a fundamental difference...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp8, hyp4
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Text of dreams Marie's dream Mon 12 March 2018 There is a language. Listen to it. JeffS's dream – Wed 14 March 2018 1. A young guy and his friend plot to kill the guy’s mother. Now the son has done it (taken care of the job), and they are at another house. The police (who do not know that the son and his friend did this) happen to bring the body over to this same other house, out on the lawn (out of my view). I am a little confused (in the dream) as to why the police bring the body over to...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 135e,136a-c Attendees: Pierre, Eldar, Barbara, Regina, JulieH Synopsis Working to understand Parmenides' description of the 'exercise' that Socrates should engage himself in. We have also in the past discussions referred to this as a 'dialectic', with 8 parts. Proclus also expands on it (to 24) in his Commentary. Highlights 0:00:30 to 0:19:00 Regina's pseudo-question re 135e, P56 19:00 Barbara - translation issues at P56 "can":...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp1
Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 133e-134b Synopsis We work our way through the "Master Argument" -- the section of the prologue of Plato's Parmenides dialogue dealing with the largest problem with Socrates' "Theory of Forms". Timeline 0:00:00 Pierre starts out with an outline to the concepts of "mastership", "benefit", and "art", in the Platonic senses. (Most of these taken from the Republic.) Philosophy thus resulting as the...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, parmenides, plg
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Synopsis Second segment of a Saturday morning with Pierre. (First segment was dreams, here .) We continue our discussion from yesterday morning's Parmenides study and last night's Friday talk regarding Soul, the self-motive power, and intellect. Most of the discussion revolves around the difference between humans and (other) animals. All of this stems from our study in yesterdays Parmenides morning group, of section 66 of Book 1, Chapter 13, of Proclus' Theology of Plato . More Info Pierre...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book01;chap26;chap27 Attendees: Pierre, David, Barbara, Eldar, Yoni, JulieH Synopsis Pierre leads the NS morning Parmenides study group through more reading of Proclus' Theology of Plato (*). This morning we read Book 1, Chapter 26, and the first half of 27. Highlights 0:00:00 --- Ch 26 - Divinity, the Immortal, the Intelligible Problems with Proclus' definition of 'divine' The role of Ousia on various levels We spend some time on the sentence, "For...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus
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Attendees: Pierre, Regina, Barbara, David, JulieH Synopsis Pierre leads the NS Parmenides study group through more of Proclus' Theology of Plato (*). We read Chapter 4 beginning at the second paragraph to the end, and Chapter 5 (only the 2nd paragraph). And about one third of the way into the 1st paragraph of Chapter 6. Pierre also suggested we go back and review chapter 11 in Book 1 for a reminder as to where we're going with the Theology. No charts today. Highlights Book 2, ch 4, para #2...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus
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Dialogue(s): greater-hippias Sections: 295d-297c [The audio static from 0:03:02 - 0:08:18 has been fixed.] Second NSFRI on the Greater Hippias. (Last week's talk is here . Also, we continue the next day in our NSSAT Saturday chat on the same topic.) This was really a fun talk. Synopsis Pierre explores going through Plato's dialogue, Greater Hippias, replacing the word, "beauty" with the word, "wealth", since in our times, many more people seem concerned with wealth than with...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, greater-hippias
Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book01;chap18 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar Synopsis Pierre leads the NS Parmenides morning study group through chapter 18 of book 1 of Proclus' Theology of Plato (*). The basic 3 things Proclus is covering here are the 1. Self-sufficiency, 2. Immutability, and 3. Sameness of subsistence of the Gods. Highlights Plato and Proclus: Reasoning on Causes: What are the conditions necessary for a cause? (We moderns don't reason this way.)...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus
Synopsis Another great informal Saturday morning coffee with Pierre. This time at a local Panera, since neither Regina nor David can host this weekend. Technical Issues [This recording may be a bit difficult to hear, even with good headphones, as we were in a public place, and I could not get the recorder to work with Pierre's headset, so we had to satisfy ourselves with a recorder on the table.] Attendees Pierre, Barbara, Sayon, JulieH, SteveD, JeffS, Josh, Ciprian, Eldar Highlights When I...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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This is a typical Saturday morning coffee with Pierre and some NS members.  This time (as is often the case), we do not chit-chat, or discuss philosophy per se, but explore more dreams (and their philosophical ramifications). Eldar and Josh explore dreams with Pierre. Eldar's is a longer exploration than we normally alot to a dream, and this is nice, because we are interested in seeing how -- once the core message is deciphered -- we can go back and see where every other aspect of the dream...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 157b-159b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar Synopsis: Our Parmenides study group continues on once again into the fourth hypothesis. Pierre extends his diagram from yesterday , but only at the bottom.  We read through the entirety of the hypothesis, focusing on several sections. The most work is put into P15 (top of 158b) by virtue of its importance but also ambiguity and multiple interpretations in the original Greek. Notes:...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp4
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp9,hyp1 Sections: 137b,137c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Eldar, JulieH, Regina Synopsis We looked at whether picture thinking was or was not in the 9th Hypothesis. We considered the First Hypothesis in contrast with the Ninth. While Pierre went to the board and made a vertical line with the 1st and 9th on either side we added only one line which I think was mentioned on the tape. That is, I think, a work in progress. The diagram -- simple as it was --...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp1, hyp9
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp9 Sections: 165e-166c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Eldar, JulieH, Regina We started with a question from Eldar. "How is the fifth hypothesis 'Image Thinking'?" For those of you who weren't at the seminar, Pierre went through all the hypotheses in terms of the divided line. Learning how to think allegorically -- mapping each term (and its function) in the Cave allegory to a deeper principle. The question of the meaning of daylight and its opposition...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp5, hyp9
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Sections: Dream Explorations: Barbara, Regina, JeffS Synopsis Barbara, Regina, and JeffS explore their dreams with Pierre this Saturday. Afterwards we finished the morning by chatting informally . Dream Texts Barbara's dream Sept-1-2018 Three parts to the dream that I have. It went on for hours. I’d wake up in it, go back to sleep, then wake up again in it. It seemed to be shouting at me. I wouldn’t record it until finally I said to myself. “Record it! “It’s shouting at you!” One...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book02;chap02;chap03 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Eldar, Julia, Regina Synopsis Pierre leads the Parmenides study group through the end of Book2/Chapter 2, and the beginning (1st para) of Book2/Chapter 3, of Proclus' Theology of Plato(*) . Highlights Book 2, Chapter 2 principle of beings / principles incorruptible and incorporeal The One is prior to Essence (Ousia) The One does not have Ousia in it. Ousia cannot participate of the One, either...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4;hyp8 Sections: 158c (P19-P21), 164c-165b (P8-P17) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, JulieH, Eldar Re-reading hyp4: 158c (P19-P21) to compare with hyp8 regarding infinite multitude Then hyp8, starting with P8 (164c) Infinite multitude, both in 4 & 8, but going to different conclusions Sudden appearance, here, like a dream Does it help to come to a general idea of what each of these hypotheses can represent, so that then you can use the idea once you...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp4, hyp8
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book02;chap02 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, Regina, David, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads the NS Parmenides study group through another day of study of Proclus' Theology of Plato(*) . After some warm-up chit-chat and Iliad discussion, we try to start into Book 2, Chapter 3, but JeffS brings up a contradiction he sees with that passage and a passage in Chapter 2 preceding. So we go into it, and spend the rest of the session looking at a sentence...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus
Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 132c-133c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, JeffS Topics Touched Upon 2nd Infinite Regress problem The problem of participation again (P34) Difficulties/blockages to Self Ousia aded (P35) Problems with our (current, mainstream) fascist educational model More Info The NS Parmenides Study Group The text we use the most: Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides
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Sections: Dream Exploration: EricG A new visitor, EricG, visits us, having seen and studied the YouTube videos for a while, and interested in where a dream exploration would lead him. He explores the dream he brought with Pierre. More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Sections: Dream Explorations: Eldar, Sayon Synopsis Eldar and Sayon bring in their latest dreams and ask Pierre to help them explore them. More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Sections: What is Cause?; Synopsis Another Saturday morning chat with Pierre and members of the Noetic Society. Dream explorations with JulieH and Regina, and some continued consideration on 'cause' from last night's talk . The book and film that Pierre is returning, on the table at the beginning, are Greg Palast's, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy . Dream Texts JulieH's Dream #1 Fri, August 17,2018 Dream - 2:55 a.m. I’m in this house and it’s a house, an old house, in an old neighborhood,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Sections: Dream Explorations: Bradley, Eric, Regina Synopsis Bradley, Eric, and Regina explore their dreams with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts Bradley's Dream Jim Lavarro had given birth. Eric's Dream (Sat Sept 8 2018) I'm exploring a university. I know of this professor that teaches exclusively on Plato, here. I walk into this classroom, and it's like a bar. And it has people in their 30's to 50's, listening to a lecture being given on a notepad. The professor is young, maybe in his 30's or...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book01;chap21;chap22 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Eldar, JulieH, Nancy [diagram forthcoming] More Info The NS Parmenides Study Group The text we use the most: Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus, book01, chap21, chap22
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Sections: Dream Explorations: Belinda, Sayon, Marie Synopsis With Pierre's guidance, we take turns trying to midwife each other on our dreams, and see at which point(s) we get stuck. Sayon midwifes Belinda on her dream #1. Jeff midwifes Belinda on her dream #2. Don midwifes Sayon. Eldar midwifes Marie. Text of Dreams Belinda's dreams 5-11-18 Dream 1 I am at a get together with many people I know, love and are friendly with. Everyone is interacting and seem to be enjoying themselves. I take off...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 155d (P237), 154e (P231), 155c (P233), 154d-155d (P228-P234) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Nancy, JulieH, Eldar, Jed, JeffS Continuing (from Monday ) with doxa (δόξα) at P237/155d: Trying to find it in the 2nd hypothesis. Why/how can he use it here? What did he do in the 2nd hyp that qualifies? Besides "opinion", Doxa could also be "belief", "appearance", "reputation", "expectation", or...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp2
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Jed explores a dream with Don as midwife, and JulieH explores a dream with Jed as midwife (with help from Pierre in both cases). [Clips are a bit choppy at the beginning: I turned the camera off several times, when we were getting set up / working on logistics, and when there was nothing else going on while we were reading/studying the dream.  I just didn't have enough time to put into fading the clips in and out. -JS] Jed's dream (Friday 5th January 2018) I just became president. I entered a...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp5 Sections: 159b-160b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, KevinG, Eldar 0:00:30 warm-up / pre-discussion 0:08:30 start hyp5 P1 He is stressing at opening of the 5th that the 4th hypothesis is very clear (skip about 48 minutes.. I took notes, then lost them, ugh.) In any duality, how did that first distinction arise? Difference Pierre with JulieH: Could anything be engineered without the existence of numbers? Of a circle / radii? Is there any...
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Dialogue(s): book-of-john Chapters: chap01;verse03 Another great informal Saturday morning chat with Pierre and the gang. Synopsis Barbara has been studying the Greek used in the New Testament. Particularly she has been looking at the first few lines of John 1:3. She has been very careful about it, but it sure looks like the text has much Platonic influence and has been incorrectly translated for centuries. She leads us through it at the board. (Diagram 1 of 3) The translation she is using is...
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Sections: Dream Explorations: Bradley, Don Pierre midwifes Bradley and Don on their dreams after his Friday night talk . More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 133e-139a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads the Parmenides Morning Study Group through another morning. We are still working through the 1st hypothesis of Plato's dialogue, Parmenides , looking at the 14 arguments made there (see Pierre's diagram from 6/27 ) and noting what patterns of thinking Parmenides is using. Today's talk, IMHO, was just mind-blowing. Well, darn near every talk is. But...
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Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, JulieH, Eldar, Yoni, Regina More Info The NS Parmenides Study Group Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Another great Saturday chat with Pierre.  Picture of Pierre's clipboard is in Download Options as a JPEG. Dream Text Regina's dream 4/27/18 Pierre and I were walking somewhere. As we were walking there was a whole commotion whole neighborhood of dogs barking. One guy let his big samoyed out that raced across the street. I thought that was a dumb thing to do cause it could get hit. It didn’t but, it scared me for the dog. He told the dog you can go across the street to check out what’s...
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Dialogue(s): elements-of-theology Chapters: prop16;prop17 More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Synopsis Three of us explore our dreams with Pierre on a Friday night before Pierre's talk . [Normally this would have been a video, but an SD card gave out, and I spent hours (unsuccessfully) trying to recover the video and splice things together. In the end, I just gave up and am posting this audio of the three talks, which I had recorded on a backup audio recorder (my Zoom H2N on a stand at the front of the room). Ugh.] Dream Texts JulieH Aug-29-2018 Dream #1 I was like working at UCI. Jeff...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 141e-142a License CC BY-NC-ND (Attribution, Non-Commercial, No-Derivates) 4.0 International http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: 13 Sections: 61-62 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads our Parmenides morning study group through chapter 13, sections 61-62 of Proclus' Theology of Plato (*). Highlights what must something have in order to receive Providence? no word for 'thing' in Greek back to chapter 13, section 61-62 on incorporeal things no sense/input apparatus Motion - that which is passive (corporeal bodies, matter) has no motion Participation...
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Synopsis Another lovely informal and fun Saturday morning chat with Pierre. Again, I am too tired to film, so audio only. But I snapped a picture of us at the beginning. Sitting around the table were Pierre, and then starting around from his left: JulieH, SteveD, Ciprian, JeffS, Eldar, and Barbara. Highlights The 'Transcendent' / Divine What evidence is there? Review of last night's talk We had all the time a connection between ourselves and an eternal source providing insights into the human...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see what Proclus does with the Parmenides. This morning we are into Book 2, Chapters 6 and 7. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, JeffS Highlights Book 2, Chapter 6, Paragraph 2 “We endeavor, therefore...” 'Monads' assumes you understand 'unions' and 'the first god'...
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Synopsis Pierre midwifes four of us on our dreams Dream Texts Bradley's Dream I'm driving in my car, and I'm pulling up to a group of people in an old garage. And there's a whole puddle of people. And emerges Woodie Allen, out of that group. They were actually shooting a movie, it seemed like. They were working on something. And he all of a sudden just emerges from the group. And he's guiding me to pull into the garage. And as I'm going to go, he keeps .. he's like, studying me. And as I'm...
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Another great Saturday talk with Pierre. Most time was spent on two interesting dreams from JeffL and Barbara (texts below), with some additional dialogue and insights around them afterwards. Dream Texts JeffL's dream 3/27/2018 I’m in like an African National park and I go kind of off trail but definitely people have gone this way before. I can see where they’ve walked through the tall grass. I do this move where I’m kind of gliding instead of really walking and I’m moving quickly....
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Dialogue(s): parmenides;elements-of-theology Chapters: hyp2;prop177;prop059 Sections: 155d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, JulieH, Eldar, Josh, (Jed and JeffS arrived late) [Parmenides study proper starts at 53:56, when Pierre challenges us to see how Parmenides needs Time (in the 2nd hyp sense, i.e., starting at 151e) in order to reach the final conclusion (of hyp2) regarding Knowledge, Opinion, and Perception of the Self (at P237, 155d).] 0:00:00 Barbara wonders about the word...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 137d-138c (P1-P28) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, Regina, Eldar Our study group continues its task of moving through the statements Parmenides makes in his (1st) hypothesis of the One-Self. We are looking for a pattern in the references to 'One' and to 'Self' in order to see if we can discover how he thinks. While doing this, we reconsider some of the references to αυτο [You may want to just skip to 24:50, which is where they really get...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 130a-132b Parmenides walks Socrates through more of the problems with his view of ideas (theory of forms). More Info Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Sections: Dream Explorations: EricG, Eldar Synopsis EricG and Eldar explore their latest dreams with Pierre as midwife. Dream Texts EricG's Dream 8/15/2018 "Family Trip to Russia" My family drops me off at a hotel to have me ask for something. I go in and I don't find anything or learn anything about what they wanted me to find. I go back outside. I can't find my family, so I call my mom and she tells me she's at another hotel and they give me directions to walk there that I don't...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: Hyp2: 142b-d, P1-8 Synopsis Pierre does a brilliant "set-up" at the beginning, preparing us for a familiarity with the questions, and then runs us through just the first 8 back-and-forths with Parmenides and Aristoteles in the Second Hypothesis of Plato's Parmenides . Diagrams are available as JPEGs in the Download Options menu on this page. More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the...
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Sections: Dream Explorations: Eldar, Bradley Synopsis Eldar and Bradley, two NS members, explore their dreams with Pierre as midwife on a Friday night. Dream Texts Eldar’s Dream 09.01.18 I was travelling around, or something, and somehow I ended up in this control tower-kind of place. Like an airport control tower. My dad was there, I think... But he was not exactly my dad, he was somehow much better. He was like some really amazing guy. Maybe he was famous? Or he’s an actor or something?...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 138b-e Synopsis Pierre goes over with us a section of the 1st hypothesis of Plato's dialogue, Parmenides , in which we explore Plato's different and very particular, specialized, and necessary use of the word, 'different' (heteron). (Images of tonight's diagrams are in the Download Options Menu on this page, as JPEGs.) Technical Issues I was missing my XLR cables tonight, so while Pierre is still in your left ear, I had to record the right ear...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, David Highlights (Laws 11: We will postpone this until next time.) Does Proclus cite Laws 11 as something important? We should be able to look it up and make...
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Synopsis SteveD explores with Pierre a dream he had about a week previous. This is the second half of our Saturday visit/chat with Pierre. The first half is here . Dream Text SteveD's dream, Dec 14, 2018 (Fri am) I am approached by two men. One looks like the famous actor, Anthony Hopkins. And the other, it seems, is my father. They ask me to go with them to see a very old church that they found. When they tell me where we are going, I tell them that I had a recent dream about there being an...
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Dialogue(s): commentary-on-platos-parmenides;greater-hippias;three-pillars-of-zen Chapters: book05 Sections: 982,987 Synopsis Another great Saturday dialoguing informally with Pierre. Pierre suggests that Proclus' 4-part dialectic is either unclear in itself, or that Proclus is discussing something else. At the very least, the four words he uses (as they are translated in Morrow/Dillon: 'Definition', 'Demonstration', 'Division', and 'Analysis') do not correspond to the way we use these words in...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 136a-137a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, Regina, Eldar, JeffS Topics touched on 136c - discussion of the words, "extraordinary undertaking" and "certain/definite". Is 'ti' referring to the 'highest, most renowned Self'? 136d,e - An ethical matter. What can we tell from Zeno's statement? "Discursive Progression" - JulieH/lexicon: instead of this, maybe "orbit" or "full account"? Regina 135a...
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Sections: Dream Exploration: Thomas Thomas explores a dream with Pierre for the first time. More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 137c-d (P1-8) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis With Pierre's help, our morning Parmenides study group works back again through the first 'argument' of the 1st hypothesis. THis is just 'paragraphs' P1-P8. Pierre asks us to reflect on what an argument is, and what a conclusion is (see diagram). We discuss (sometimes quite intensely) what the problems are and what Parmenides might be trying to do. JeffS in...
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