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Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Talk given by Pierre Grimes at the Theosophical Society Besant Lodge in Hollywood, California. (4th Thursdays of each month.) After this intro, Pierre explored a dream with BradleyB (which is not currently archived). More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSBSNT, pg1, dreams, mind
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Dialogue(s): corpus-hermeticum Chapters: book02;book03 Topics Covered Pierre recommends a book by Frances Yates: Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition (ISBN-13: 978-0226950075, ISBN-10: 0226950077 ) Josh and Ingmar go up front to read from Book 3 then Book 2 of The Corpus Hermeticum of Hermes Trismegistus , as translated by our own Juan and Maria Balboa . Juan Balboa himself also recommends/refers to Hermetica, Vol. 1: The Ancient Greek and Latin Writings Which Contain Religious or...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, corpus-hermeticum, hermes-trismegistus
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Dialogue(s): laches Sections: 198b Brief exploration of the Platonic dialogue, "Laches", with Pierre -- especially how some concepts are not explored fully, i.e., are left as open questions, which should lead the reader to find the answers in other Platonic dialogues. Using the text from the Loeb Classical Library, "Plato: Laches, Protagoras, Meno, Euthydemus", W.R.M. Lamb, transl. Pre-discussion (Barbara): How do we understand the statement, 'All men seek the Good' (from...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, laches
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Regina exploring a dream with Pierre on a Saturday morning gathering at David's. Transcription of her dream is in the 'Download Options' menu on this page, under 'PDF'. More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg;hyp1 Sections: 128c 128d 128e 129a 129b 129c 129e 129e 130a 130b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Eldar, Nancy, JeffS Note: if anyone would like to contribute notes, please email them to me and i will paste them here in the description section. Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image pointilism courtesy of Flickr user aesthetics of crisis (aestheticsofcrisis) under a CC BY-NC-SA 2.0...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, plg, hyp1
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Jed's dream Sunday 12-17-17 I have come to class. I have an assignment to hand in, it's Friday, the last day of school. I feel like im beind. I haven't done it yet. It will prevent me from getting a get a grade if i don't hand it in. All my years work gone because i haven't finished this assignment. In the dream i try to create time to do the assignment, but as i sit at the computer and start trying to write it i feel i cannot. There is no inspiration or good idea for this assignment, and it...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Pierre explores dreams with 7 of us in one night.. Wow! Almost 3 hours of work (play!) .. Thank you, Pierre. More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1, NSFRI
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 143c 143d 144c 144d 144e 145a 145b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Nancy, Eldar, Bill, JeffS Beginning to 41:00 - Regina's question on couples 143c,d 41:30 to end - Discussion on whole, parts, singular, plural 144c-145b Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp2
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 143b 143c 143d 143e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Nancy, Bradley, JulieP, Eldar, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp2
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Another great Saturday chit-chat with Pierre. Topics Covered - Midwifery with JulieH - Sayon: moving up in the world - JeffS: pot can help with insights but is it ultimately anti-anagogic? (See Pierre's book co-authored with Regina, Philosophical Midwifery: A New Paradigm for Understanding Human Problems With Its Validation , ISBN-10: 0964819112, ISBN-13: 978-0964819115, April 1998 Hyparxis Press) [I could not record video, audio only for today, because of problems with the electrical. Thanks...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSPMW
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Text of dreams: Jeff: 4/14/2017 My ma is walking out in the road in the sunlight. She's approaching me. I'm up on the sidewalk, so she's approaching me at a tangent as we're walking along. She just says, "I'll be dead within two weeks." I remember her having said it before already (maybe from an earlier scene?), and I'm wondering why she has repeated it. But as the reality of what she's saying hits me, I get a brief pang of anxiety and that wakes me up. Sean: Tuesday 4.4.2017 at...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3;hyp2 Sections: 157a 142b 142c 142d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, Yoni, JeffS Basic Topics Discussed: - "The Logos Unfolds the Nature of the Self" - "Following the Trail of the Logos" - 142c "whereas our present hypothesis is not Self .. - Aristoteles' understanding is pretty sharp   - he knows that if the One Is, that automatically means participation in Ousia   - but he does have a problem with...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp3, hyp2
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Pierre starts out by putting a question on the board: What follows if throughout the cosmos each solar system within each galaxy has a unique beginning middle and end?  Then does each reflect its own stage of development? because if so then what is the sum of all that development? Could it be just one name? The Logos. If a certain stage of development allows interconnectedness then... At about 9:10, Belinda looks at one of her dreams with Pierre (cut out and available separately here ). Some...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1
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Searches through the platonic and neo-platonic texts for a particular word or words, and Greek translation issues and snippets to help us in our study. List: 2017-07-21 Barbara: Logos in Parmenides Citations Only 2017-08-04 Barbara: Vocabulary of Dialectic on Providence More info: Pierre Grimes The Noetic Society (http://noeticsociety.org) Parmenides Morning Study Group Our main collection page here at archive.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, parmenides
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Apologies for the sound - The microphone was not moved to stay with the pregnant parties. You may find headphones help. More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 132a 132b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar Initial discussion on the problems with our current education system, then.. Understanding the paragraph at 132A Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 147b-148a (P103-P116),126b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Eldar, Jed, JeffS Continuing working on the 2nd hypothesis in Plato's dialogue, Parmenides 0:00:30 Pierre suggests picking up with David's difficulty regarding same/different David describes his 'dyslexia' - couldn't even just "read the words". 0:06:20 146b Discussion proper begins with Pierre writing out a question on the diagram: What does Parmenides need in...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp2
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp8 (8th hypothesis) Sections: 164b-165e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina The Puzzles in the 8th 164e P11 Pierre emphasizes: watch the "some" Two groups among the selves: even and odd P13 What does "IN selves" mean? Why does he use δόξει (doxei) and φαίνεται (phainetai)? P14 a phantom of equality P15 P16 The smaller is surfaced again It starts with "something" Barbara reads P17-P24 17:55 Reviewing: P13...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp8
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 143d 143e 144a 144b 144c 144d 144e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar, Josh, JulieH, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp2
Dialogue(s): works-and-days Sections: 53-105 More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, works-and-days, hesiod
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 145a 145b 145c 145d 145e 145a 145b 145c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Nancy, JulieH, Eldar, BillG, JeffS 1. If you are wearing headphones: Left ear: Pierre and Barbara Right ear: The rest of us + my own calling out of what Pierre is drawing or pointing to on the diagram 2. I did not take notes today and please feel free to contribute some, which I will post here gratefully. (Send to my personal email or to info@noeticsociety.org.)  Even as...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp2
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 157d 158c 158e 159a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS [Continuing to work backwards up the text search Barbara made 7/22 of appearances of "Logos" in the Parmenides (listed among our Plato Text Searches ), looking for how 'logos' functions in the Parmenides. Continued from yesterday .] Notes: PG: Check out the Balboa's translation of The Republic. It focuses very clearly on the role of the Self, and...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp4
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Dreams texts are in PDF link to right. [image is a bit wonky as i was playing with an inexpensive wide-angle lens adapter i got on ebay (supposedly a "Vivitar 0.43X Pro HD"), hoping to get more of the group in the picture with our little dinky Canon Vixia HF200. it does it (a bit) but at the cost of image quality and tunneling when zoomed out.] More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp9;hyp1 Sections: 165e-166c;142a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar Highlights: [Another “pocket” recording day. Sorry for the shuffling. (We eventually went back to table-top recorder placement.) Thanks for your patience. -JS] Starting with P4 in the 9th. (165e) The force of the word, “in”: present in . 166a P6 Appearance: Communion: Is that a one-ness? A kind of participation? Barbara: Are they saying that In order for something to...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp9, hyp1, republic
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Dialogue(s): elements Chapters: 35 PG: All modern thought starts with the denial of Cause .  Give up any concern for causes. Look only for correlations. Working from Juan and Maria Balboa's latest (Apr 12 2017) revision of their translation of Proclus' Elements of Theology . Propositions nominated for looking at next Friday (Apr 21) are: 24, 32, 33, 34, 35, 49, 142, 148 Also Ken King's group of propositions proving the immortality of the soul: 88, 44, 15, 16, 43, 46 More info:...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, proclus, elements-of-theology
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Dialogue(s): corpus-hermeticum Chapters: book11 Notes: Started out with Question/Answer Xenophanes quote, again ("It is the Whole of God that Sees, the whole that hears, the whole that thinks.") what is that whole that quickly apprehends what you experience? simultaneous experience and comprehension mindful comprehension that goes on all the time - bang, bang, bang what is it? what is it that is so mindful that it immediately comprehends whatever you see, hear, or think? (especially,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, corpus-hermeticum, book11, hermes-trismegistus, gnosticism, obe
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 156d 156e 157a 157b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, JulieH (Thanks to Barbara for today's audio, and for her note to me below:) Description, from Barbara: Pierre, Dave, Julie H., Nancy, Regina and I were present. We worked finally with Parmenides Hypothesis 3, Parm 18 to 21. Earlier there was some talk from Pierre about Zorastrianism. Unfortunately the bookcase was moved several times because it was blinding for Pierre, so...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp3
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 157e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar, JulieH, Nancy, JeffS [Whoa. What a morning of interesting topics.  Though we spent almost no time in the text -- only discussing its ramifications.  I got so involved I stopped taking notes.  If anyone wants to contribute more or finish out my notes, please do send along to me! -JS] (Some of the ) Topics Covered: Regina - no Ousia in the 4th PG: Can you link the significance of that with...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp4
Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp5;hyp9 Sections: 166c,160b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar From Barbara's email to me, when she sent along her recording: Hi, Jeff Eldar should send the chart, added to from yesterday. At the beginning I talked a little about translating most of H9. And a very interesting translation of one part of 9 about the opinion of the many. We actually examined the question of how the conclusion to H9 related to the rest of the hypotheses...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp6 Sections: 161a 161b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Bradley, Yoni, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp6
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Dialogue(s): timaeus Sections: 29e More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, timaeus
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp6 Sections: 160d 160e 161a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Yoni, Bradley, Eldar, JeffS Knowledge of the Self if One is Not Difference as an asymmetric concept - "X has the difference, Y does not", etc. Would the Self participate in anything that's not real? Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image, Bubble , courtesy user zacktionman ( CC BY-NC 2.0 )...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp6
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp6 Sections: 162a 162b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar, JulieH, Bradley -How last night's talk 5 sections mapped onto the Parmenidean hypotheses -Manly Hall and Jung and alchemical texts -Greek tragedy -What does it take to read? and Kurosawa's General Image, False Reflection , courtesy of Flickr user Petri Damstén (pdamsten) under a CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 license ), downloaded 2017-01-27. Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp6
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- you can't have a problem if you're not intelligent. - Trump has a low level of intelligence, so he can't even see that he has a problem. - Trump is our first American tragedy. Presenting himself to the American public as a mystery. - Everything he is doing is self-inflicted disaster. Repetition. - OTOH, formally, what he is doing, he is a great president: He is creating the conditions for peace with Russia and China: The very thing the right-wing in our country are against. - But even though...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 155e-156c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS 155e The problem of "because" in P1 of hyp3 bringing in the logic of the hyp1 PG: can we now attribute to the self what he says about the One? so Time is necessary for participating 156a what is he excluding? process 156b Coming to be and dispersing The Process of the One, going in and out of existence There must be something that remains the same between moments -- even...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp3
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Dialogue(s): on-providence More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, on-providence, proclus
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 157e-158b,158d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS Julie's question Regina's problem PG: Questions: Has he defined a new kind of idea? How does it fit what came before it? "composed from all", therefore eternal "which we call whole" R's problem was with the "all". P12: Barbara - "each part of Selves" P13 P14 - whole and parts, participation, being one Levels of participation: Whole to...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp4
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp8;hyp9 Sections: 164b-166c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar 165e-166c (9th hyp, P1-P13) 164b-165e (8th hyp, P1-P24) Brief outline from Barbara: Hi, Jeff No diagrams, a piece of writing Pierre handed me to read when I arrived, pretty much the first thing on the audio--he again got there early and started with Gina, early. I don't have it; he gave it to Gina. We did Hypothesis 9
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 145c-147a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Nancy, CathyW, Jed, JeffS My scratch notes: 145c-145e question and david answers reference to Saturday's questions to 146b a principle. discussion on this para (in some way, everything has to..) there is nothing in the universe that is separate everything in the universe is connected (in some way). even different  is still connected! (back to one sentence prev) why does he need part to...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp2
Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2;hyp4;hyp6;hyp7;hyp8 Sections: 164b 164c 161a 161b 157e 158a 158c 158d 142e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS Looking for 'Logos' in the Parmenides [Working from the text search Barbara made 7/22 of "Logos in Parmenides Citations Only" (listed among our Plato Text Searches )] hyp7, hyp8: Denial of the Logos Pathologos in the 6th "In Relation To" -- always presupposes the activity of the Logos, staring...
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(Audio/Video: YoniG) More info: http://noeticsociety.org
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Synopsis Pierre Grimes in another invited talk at the Besant Lodge of the Theosophical Society, Los Angeles, California. Study Materials JPEG images of Pierre's diagrams from this talk are in the DOWNLOAD OPTIONS section. Technical Issues for Mac Users It has been noticed by one of our patrons that this particular video gives Mac users some problems under certain scenarios:  When (a) streaming (watching the video online) with the Apple Safari web browser, or (b) downloading the video first to...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSBSNT, pg1
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Eldar and JeffS exploring dreams with Pierre on a Friday night.  We did Eldar's dream, then discussed the Republic and Laches dialogues of Plato , then Jeff's dream, then continued discussion. Transcriptions of the dreams themselves are in the Download Options section of this page, under PDF. More info: http://noeticsociety.org
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp6 Sections: 162a 162b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Bradley, Eldar, Josh, JeffS Can a shadow exist without its object being in the sun? Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg MD5SUMs: 67d57a0dcdcb623dce3d5e5723ec9a24 2017-01-29_NSPRM.ogg ef8690adc818d420dd2014350b1b7cf0 2017-01-29_NSPRM_0-group-pic-in-reginas-patio.jpg cb2e4c430c617a133801e2bf10182505...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp6
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 135d,147c-148e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, JulieH, Eldar, CathyW Pierre: 135d: Better translation perhaps than 'gather thyself together', is 'drag thyself up', on the very first page of the prologue Return to 2nd hypothesis, 147b/c Is Aristoteles growing? Regina's question about what are the One and the Self then (if we have identified the not-Ones and the selves)? (but she was either not heard or understood, as it was not...
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Pierre Grimes in the first of several talks at the Besant Lodge of the Theosophical Society, Los Angeles, California, on the fourth Thursday of each month. Winter Lazerus and Stephan Hoeller introduce Pierre. (Please pardon the initial camera and audio problems.) The Parmenides Platonic dialogue, Balboa translation that Pierre refers to. Pierre's Betrayal of Philosophy article - 1st in a series of 3 Pierre has published in the last year in the APPA journal on the subject. More info:...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 158c-159b / P20-P32 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar Finished the 4th hypothesis today. Today's drawing is yesterday's, with additions. My notes below are just scratchings. 158c / P20 'some one idea' going back to 157e focusing P21 'herself' - feminine. refers to φύσιν (phusin) - nature going from multitude and not-one to unlimited multitude DC: 'that different nature' = the part that does not participate of the One...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 151e,152a,142b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Josh, Eldar, Jed, JeffS We continued in the 2nd hypothesis, starting today at 151e (P183, "19"). Time in the Realm of Ontos. JeffS's confusion (beginning at 16:45) , and Pierre's identifying Jeff's underlying philosophical problem and raising the discussion (starts at 0:29:13) : How can this (the 2nd) hypothesis be related to anything? and Pierre's beautiful, clear answer to his...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides;likeness Chapters: plg Sections: 132d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, JulieH, Yoni, JeffS Reading the early (1st and 2nd) rough drafts of Pierre's paper, 'Likeness' which he emailed out last night, which is based on the paragraph we had been working on in the Parmenides (132d). JulieH played Plethon and Regina played Harry, and they read through it.  JulieH had quite an emotional (positive) reaction while reading it, and we discussed that. Working from...
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Dialogue(s): republic Chapters: book07 Sections: 516d Just a bit of a 'winter solstice' celebration. Folks brought food, and someone a bottle of Sandeman, which got Pierre to reminisce about how he spent his winter vacation at St Johns in 1948, reading Plato and Homer with fellow students.  He reads from Book 7 of Plato's Republic ( 516d ), which hit him way back when as proof positive that The Republic could not just be about Plato designing an ideal political state. Pierre challenges a...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 142d 142e 143a 143b 143c 143d 143e 144a 144b 144c 144d 144e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Yoni, Eldar, JeffS Basic Topics Discussed: - nature of a part, μοριον - the logos coming to be in the 2nd - generative of number, greater and lesser selves. and a One Self above all - the importance of "Difference", with...   - Participation depending on the 3-relationship triad one-ousia-different   - Necessary number...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Stephanus Sections: 135c-136b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Eldar, JulieH Topics Covered: Barbara brought in her printout of her search for semainei in the Parmenides, and its various meanings Reviewing the Logos at 136B (3). '..and in One Logos..' You have to relate the Self to all of the hypotheses. So when you finish, your dialectic should be a comparison of the idea of the Self in all of the hypotheses (which is what we've been...
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JulieH exploring a dream with Pierre at a Saturday morning gathering at David's. Transcription of her dream is in the 'Download Options' menu on this page, under 'PDF'. More info: http://noeticsociety.org
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Dialogue(s): republic;parmenides A great weekend seminar led by Pierre Grimes, PhD with the Noetic Society. Materials posted here so far: ​All 4 formal session videos​ An informal, extra​ video​ session, chatting with Pierre at dinner Saturday night PDF​ documents​: The seminar announcement ​Barbara's​ pre-seminar word-search​ studies​ The three hand-outs ​Pierre gave us ​Transcripts of JeffL's and Jed's dreams [from Sunday session #4] JPEG​ photos: All the left and...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp6 Sections: 162a P36 P37 161c P25 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, JeffS (Parmenides discussion proper ends about 1:18:30.) Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 142b 142c 142d 142e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image, Beauty is Everywhere , courtesy of Flickr user Fabrizio Lonzini (fabbriciuse) under a CC BY-NC-ND 2.0 license ), downloaded 2017-02-15.
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 143d 143b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar, JulieH, Bill, Ronda From Barbara:  "Basically we talked about people's response to Pierre's question email. Then we looked for a way to form mean analogies from the couples." Pierre's questions which he emailed us previous to meeting: As you consider the opening of the dialogue of the second hypothesis, you will note that two objects are participating in one another. Keep that...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp6 Sections: 162a P36 161b P18 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Josh, Eldar, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 144b 144c 144d 144e 145a 145b 145c 145d 145e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Bradley, JeffS The beginning of the recording is just Barbara familiarizing David (who had just arrived and was not present yesterday) with yesterday's talk as they look at yesterday's diagram, which is still on the board/easel in front of them. Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 132c 142b 142c 142d 142e 143a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Eldar, JulieH, JeffS plg 132c Self used by us moderns figuratively, while Self used by Greeks literally 2nd hyp 142b 142c The difference between esti and einai estin signifies something else and that something else is being 142d esti to einai to ontos this is the transition .. belongs-to since estin always implies something beyond itself -- one being, or ontos 142e...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 136a-c, 142d-e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar, Nancy, JulieH, Josh, Yoni, JeffS Doing Zeno's exercise in 136a,b,c continued Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image The ghosts of Christmas tree past drops courtesy of Flickr user Steve Wall under a CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 license when downloaded on 2017-08-06.
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Dialogue(s): commentary-on-platos-parmenides Saturday chit-chat with Pierre Topics Covered, Audio Highlights, and Notes Pierre on the Via Roma in World War II - not much has changed in 2,000 years Michael Moore's interview yesterday (broadcast on KPFK Pacifica) with Amy Goodman, on Democracy Now. Proclus: Dialectic on Providence. Not actually defined . 1 Crop circles - signs of intelligence A Friendly Dialectic (diagram forthcoming) More strategy/planning on how to approach learning Greek with...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp6 Sections: 160e 161b 161c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Bradley, Yoni Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image, tracks , courtesy of Flickr user Harald Link under a CC BY-NC-ND 2.0 license , downloaded 2017-01-25.
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Regina's Dream 9/18/17 I was at a buddhist meditation place, all religious place, theme was mostly buddhism. There was a lot of activity before hand, but right now, two people were going to get married. Both were friends. I asked myself, are they going to get married here. I thought I would ask to get involve in some kind of relaxation, meditation project. This one girl getting married said she would help me. This one girl suddenly was encircled in a white flower arrangement. She was in the...
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Informal 25 minute chit-chat with Pierre after his NSFRI talk on Plotinus on Love . - translating ancient greek while ignoring the Self (αυτοσ) - edinbourgh review criticism of Thomas Taylor's writings in a very Christian time - politics and Trump MD5SUM: d5f076a68ba5cb647182ebbb5b51a9cf  2017-01-27_NSCHT.mp4 More info: http://noeticsociety.org
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(Poor audio for the first 0:02:25) My (inadequate) notes on the discussion/chat this morning: (another episode in the "What Does It Take To Listen?" series..) Initial discussion between Eldar and Pierre about The Matrix Pierre's claim: The problem with our society is that it does not understand the Prometheus myth. Hope destroys Mankind (Pandora): all the Abrahamic religions Charlemagne hoping for reading/writing Belief/denial - Barbara lifts the conversation by reading from a book...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 132a 132b 132c 132d 132e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, JulieH, Eldar, Yoni, JeffS we are trying to figure out Socrates Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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