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Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Synopsis Translation of a portion of Proclus' Commentary on Plato's dialogue, 1st Alcibiades , by Juan and Maria Balboa. Interlinear Greek and English with key words in color, and additional diagrams and quotes, and commentary supplied by the translators. Click 'PDF' in the Download Options menu on this page. Originally published: 3 April 2020 Cover Image from Jody Mueller Original Location https://archive.org/details/proclus-1st-alc-7-causes-balboa Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International...
Topics: philosophy, plato, proclus, alcibiades1, balboa, commentary-first-alcibiades
Synopsis Translation by Juan and Maria of selected passages (currently chapters 1-40, 61, and 75-81). (Alternatively titled, “Problems and Solutions Concerning First Principles” -- see also our NS Reading List for other translations). Thank you, Juan and Maria! Revisions 2021-07-18. Posted 2021-07-16. Chapters 1-49, 61, 75-81 [Current] 2021-06-14. Posted 2021-06-15. Chapters 1-40, 61, 75-81 2021-04-30. Posted 2021-04-30. Chapters 1-33, 61, 75-81 2021-03-16. Posted 2021-03-20. Chapters 1-20,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, damascius, problems-and-solutions-concerning-first-principles
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Synopsis Translation of Plato's dialogue, Apology , by Juan and Maria Balboa. Interlinear Greek and English with key words in color, and additional diagrams and quotes supplied by the authors. Click 'PDF' in the Download Options menu on this page. Earlier editions of this text may also be available in hard copy at lulu.com , combined with the Euthyphro -- but check before ordering to make sure you would be ordering the same edition as the one uploaded here. A primary reference for The Apology...
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Synopsis Translation of Essay 4 of Proclus' Commentary on Plato's dialogue, The Republic , by Juan and Maria Balboa. Interlinear Greek and English with key words in color, and additional diagrams and quotes, and commentary supplied by the translators. Click 'PDF' in the Download Options menu on this page. Originally published: 3 April 2020 Cover Image from William Blake Original Location https://archive.org/details/proclus-republic-balboa Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License...
Topics: philosophy, plato, proclus, republic, essay04
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Synopsis Translation by Juan and Maria of selected passages (currently chapters 22 and 23 of Book 6) of Proclus’ work, “Theology of Plato” . Interlinear Greek and English with key words in color, and additional diagrams and quotes supplied by the translators. Version History 2020-12-03: Book 6, Chapters 22 and 23
Topics: philosophy, plato, proclus, theology-of-plato
Synopsis This is the 2nd in a 2-article series Pierre wrote in the early years developing Philosophical Midwifery. First article is called, Alcibiades . Abstract Vinodorus, the drunkard, explains that he cannot stand success; he works hard, achieves his goal, and then throws all away in a ruinous drinking bout. Under Socrates’ questioning, Vinodorus perceives that success to him means to be admired as a successful man. Socrates suggests that Vinodorus is satisfied with opinion, the semblance...
Topics: philosophy, plato, grimes, alcohol, alcoholism, philosophical-midwifery, pmw
Synopsis This is the first in a 2-article series Pierre wrote in the early years developing Philosophical Midwifery. The second article is called, Vinodorus . Technical Issues I re-typeset the articles -- which were by now quite old -- for better readability. The original page numbers as printed in the journal are noted within the text. -JS Originally Published Quarterly Journal of Studies on Alcohol 22(1961): 277-2971 https://www.jsad.com/ (although I can no longer find the article on their...
Topics: philosophy, plato, philosophical-midwifery, pmw
Synopsis In our Noetic Society Parmenides Study Group study of Proclus' Theology of Plato , much of the work involves working out the hierarchies of the gods. Here are Pierre's handwritten notes on the subject, sometimes referred to in our study sessions . Original Location https://archive.org/details/20191223NSPRM Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License Please Help Support the Project Do you enjoy our free audios, videos, and texts? Please consider supporting Pierre, the NS, and...
Topics: philosophy, plato, proclus, theology-of-plato, NSPRM
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Synopsis This is a partial list of Pierre’s works, with handy links. The same list is available in PDF format in the Download Options menu on this page. (You can also Search Our Collection to see all the works of Pierre’s we have here in the collection.) Books Socrates and Jesus: A Dialogue in Heaven . 2016. ISBN-10 : 1507767897 / ISBN-13 : 978-1507767894 BookFinder.com BookScouter.com Unblocking: Removing Blocks to Understanding . 2014. ISBN-10 : 1489516190 / ISBN-13 : 9781489516190...
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Synopsis This is Pierre Grimes' fifth in a series of articles on the subject of philosophy, philosophical counseling, philosophical midwifery, and The Self, published in Philosophical Practice , the journal of the American Philosophical Practitioners Association (of which Pierre was the founder) with permissions of the author and the editor. It is reproduced here under a Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 4.0 International license . Pierre is the inventor of philosophical midwifery in its modern sense,...
Topics: plato, philosophy, parmenides, republic, self, logos, pathologos, pg1, appa-journal,...
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Synopsis Before our regular Friday night talk , Pierre helps JeffL explore a recent dream. Dream Texts JeffL’s Dream – Thu 25 June 2020 I’m going with Brad T and we’re going down this alley. We’re going to a pizza parlor. There is a group of us and our friend Chris ordered the pizzas and we are going to pick them up. The pizzas are already paid for and everything. We also happen to be in Arkansas. We go into the pizza shop and I’m thinking “damn Arkansas, isn’t this a Covid...
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Synopsis Eric explores a recent dream with Pierre's help. Dream Text EricG's Dream -- Sun 2 Feb 2020 It was like being in a video game, but the feeling of the environment was much more real. I was a relatively low rank or level in this world, and I had just killed someone in a fight who was of a similar rank. I went to inspect and pick up his equipment and armor to compare its quality to mine. His weapon and some of his armor were notably better than mine, so I replaced those pieces of...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
Synopsis A fun but rigorous Saturday morning, Jitsi'ing with Pierre. He starts over with having us as a group read the 1st hypothesis of Plato's Parmenides (*), and watching how Parmenides reasons, in a curious way that we moderns are not familiar with, to reason about the One-Self. Topic Highlights and Pierre' s Questions [This section is under construction: These are not complete.. I could not keep up today. Will have to edit and add more notes later. It was just too good and the points were...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, parmenides, hyp1, NSPRM
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Synopsis We continue our study of Plato’s Ion ( Balboa translation ) with Pierre. Pierre offers us many questions (see below), but the main thing at this point he is still challenging us to do is to: pull together as many quotes as we can to build up an understanding of what Socrates’ idea of an ‘art’ is, and especially a reciter’s (rhapsode’s) art (none of us have assembled the full list yet) use that definition to ask whether Socrates uses an art and knowledge that include the...
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Synopsis Saturday morning with Pierre, starting again with ‘part’ and ‘whole’ in the opening lines of the first hypothesis of Plato’s Parmenides . (We use the Balboa translation .) Highlights Hellos to Eve and Niko Belinda: What can we say about the Self? Is it Intellect Intellecting the Intelligible? Continuing yesterday’s discussion In order for a part to become a part of a whole, must it fit symmetrically? Why did ‘God’ give us symmetry? I.e., What is the origina of symmetry?...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, parmenides, hyp1, proclus, commentary-first-alcibiades
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Synopsis Grace explores a dream with Pierre as the first item in our NS Saturday morning meeting today, before we continue with the study of the Iliad . Dream Text Grace's Dream -- Fri 3 April 2020 -- “Rabbit in the Forest” traffic accident. a car is tipped, engine on, gas leaking. back door open. a basket of kittens on the seat. i hand it the basket to a guy whose arm is gashed and ask him to take it to the hospital behind him. he stares at me and i growl “go” and he turns and walks...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1, nsvc
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis After first exploring two dreams , we continue our puzzling today on the first hypothesis of Plato’s Parmenides . Pierre opens it up and asks those of us who have been reading and studying in it what questions we have. We get a good question or two to look at, but at the end Pierre asks tus to bring more questions next time. As usual, we use the translation from our own Juan and...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp1
Title Plato: Lysis; Proclus: Commentary on Plato’s Parmenides DDDAS and the Virtues (and their Lack) in Every Past Pathologos Scene Synopsis We were supposed to start this beginner/dialogue track this Friday night, with Plato’s Lysis . It was to be a beginner’s meeting, but it ends up being advanced, talking about Proclus after all, and DDDAS (Definition, Demonstration, Division, Analysis and Synthesis), as well as the Virtues and Philosophical Midwifery. Highlights Why Lysis? Why did...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, lysis, commentary-on-parmenides, book05, proclus
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Synopsis Another fine Saturday morning exploring dreams with Pierre’s midwifery. Highlights Continuation of Kate’s dream exploration from last night . Exploration of Josh’s Dream More exploration of Darlene’s dream from September 12th . A brief hello and announcement from Juan Balboa on his latest translation of Damascius (See references, below) Dream Texts Kate’s Dream (reprinted from yesterday) Brother came back in the dream. I was trying to get something to record him. He was just...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Synopsis On this Sunday, JulieH and Regina explore recent dreams with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts JulieH’s Dream – Sun 22 Nov 2020 I had won a political position as speaker of the head of the city, or yea, like the city. So, those were separate collections – there was the head of the city - I don’t know if it was city – it was some big public body, and I won the position of speaker of that body. And really, the only thing that was in the dream was my having won this position But in...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
Synopsis Another great, but challenging Sunday with Pierre. We get into mapping/matching a) the first 12 steps (of the 24) of Proclus’ demonstration of the dialectic on Providence , from his Commentary on Plato’s Parmenides onto b) the 12 mundane gods listed (in 4 triads) in Proclus’ Theology of Plato , Book 6, Chapter 22. Mostly we use the Balboa translations of these, but a bit of the Morrow and Dillon ( Commentary.. ). See Resources, below. Highlights [Note: My notes, as usual are...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, commentary-on-parmenides, theology-of-plato, book05, book06, chap22,...
Synopsis Sunday afternoon with Pierre. I start recording with a talk Ged is already in the middle of with Pierre. Then we discuss the relevance of the Theaetetus and Midwifery to the talk with Ged. Then we get into the Parmenides with Eldar’s question about Rest and Motion Highlights PMW with Ged on knowledge and understanding Pierre suggests Ged read the Theaetetus and look both at the beginning (about 149a onward) for introducing a potential pregnant party / interlocutor to midwifery, and...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theaetetus, parmenides, NSPMW
Synopsis Another fun Wednesday afternoon with Pierre and the gang. Topic highlights are below. Two or three mid-wifings and an attempt at reading part of Thomas Taylor's Book 7, Chapter 40, thanks to Barbara's search for today's discussion. Topic Highlights and Questions from Pierre Eric's has shared a 3-page paper he has written about some insights he has had into PMW, regarding the place of ‘terror’ and ‘anger’ in PMW. The video starts with his discussion with Pierre, since they...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book07, chap40, proclus, thomas-taylor
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another Sunday afternoon with Pierre on Zoom. Highlights Check-in with Regina and Grace on how the reading group is going Cause and Timaeus with Kevin Continuation of discussion with Jed on Socrates’ motive for going along with Glaucon, et al, to Cephalus’ house, on page 1 of Plato’s Republic . with Chris on Providence and DDDAS (Definition, Division, Demonstration, Analysis,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, problems-and-solutions, chap81, damascius
Synopsis We continue our study of Homer's Iliad , this week jumping forward to Book 23. Pierre asks us to consider why the Greeks stop to participate in games. Why does Homer include this? Why is it necessary to the work? And also: Why at this point (Book 23) in the work? Why not earlier? We look at the first few occurrences of auto (Self) using the list of Self occurrences that Barbara provided for us (forthcoming). Study Materials Fitzgerald Translation : We read from the Fitzgerald...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, iliad, book23, homer
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Title Pierre’s ‘Parchment’: Proclus, 3 (of the 7) Causes, Difference, and Philosophical Midwifery Synopsis Another Parmenides Study group meeting with Pierre. Pierre asks us that as we read the Balboa paper on Proclus, the First Alcibiades, and the Cratylus, and the 7 causes, do we have a strategy or way of going about doing so? He also has us read a short blurb he wrote on Proclus,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, commentary-on-alcibiades, alcibiades, cratylus
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Today we discuss whether Philosophical Midwifery (PMW) can reach the same heights as any religion – or higher. We focus on Buddhism. At the end, Bradley explores a dream with Pierre which deals precisely with this subject. Synchronicity, baby. Highlights Pierre asks folks if they have an idea for what to talk about today. He picks David. David suggests topic: An explanation of the...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, NSDRM
Synopsis On this Wednesday afternoon, JulieH and Regina explore a dream and dream fragment. Jed takes another shot at answering Pierre’s question about what is going on page 1 of the Republic , and why Socrates goes along. Highlights JulieH explores a dream she had this morning, with Pierre midwifing. Jed and Pierre continue to explore page 1 of Book 1 of Plato’s Republic (continued from last Friday ): Why does Socrates stay and go to Cephalos’ house? Dream fragment exploration with...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, republic, book01, NSDRM
Synopsis A Wednesday afternoon group meet with Pierre. Highlights Discussion of Cause and Providence What is a Cause? What is Providence (pronoia in Greek)? The Mind seeing with the Mind ‘Agathos Eidos’: The Beheld Good The Power: the Daimon, bringing about a personal communication with the Higher Eternal There’s a power that understands every single problem, and in every way is trying to help: That’s Providence Barbara’s Dream Exploration Analyzing and answering Jed’s question...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, commentary-on-parmenides, chap5, proclus, NSDRM
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Book 10, Sections 614-621 Brief Notes From Barbara: We worked on the Myth of Er. The opening quote on the Charts was: Learning is 1. to discover the new and understand it. 2) to recover from an error (or ignorance) remove the effect and go on to gain what was left unknown. Some of the quotes we focused on in this order--all are in the Republic, two versions being used--are p. 529 in the...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, republic, book10
This Friday night was three-part: First, DonB gives us a talk on the latest work he has been doing on the abiding, proceeding, and returning of the Self. Next (starting at about 0:23:15) Pierre has us consider two main uses of the idea of 'Self'. Finally, we get into Homer's Iliad again (Book 23), with the Fitzgerald version, and Barbara's notes on the autos. Study Materials Fitzgerald Translation : We read from the Fitzgerald translation of the Iliad (there are several editions of this, but...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, iliad, book23, homer
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Pierre midwifes two dreams on this Wednesday afternoon. Highlights dream exploration with Regina dream exploration with ChrisC Dream Texts Regina’s Dream – Mon 16 November 2020 I was at this school. It was like a college a specialized college. Part of it was learning martial arts, becoming ninja. There were older students and masters and younger ones. I learned that there were...
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Synopsis Three NS members unpack the meaning of our dreams sent to us, with Pierre's help as midwife. Dream Texts Eldar's Dream -- Thu 20 Feb 2020 I’m on a soccer field. I’m on the sidelines and I’m communicating with the goal-keeper. I’m just kind of hanging out there. The ball flies past me and hits the corner behind me where two walls meet. The ball bounces off the corner. The corner is outside of the soccer-pitch so technically the ball was out of bounds, but it bounced back into...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
Synopsis Pierre opens up the question of what is a daemon in the Platonic world. Since Plato has emphasized rational daemons (such as the daemon, Love , in his Symposium , we have studied these before. Tonight Pierre reviews these, but also asks, what, then, is an irrational daemon? Note: Pierre later shared with me that he was not satisfied with tonight's talk, and that the talk he prepared and gave two weeks later on February 7th was much better organized and thought out. Topic Highlights...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, theology-of-plato, symposium, timaeus, cratylus, book07, chap45,...
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Pierre continues to walk us through (‘DDDAS’) and now also the 24 categories of the Parmenidean / Proclean dialectic, in Book 5 of Proclus’ Commentary on Plato’s Parmenides , all ostensibly with an eye to what is going on in Plato’s dialogue, Lysis . Highlights Why is Socrates continuing through a formal talk with Menexenus, when it is obvious he is not following? Why is...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, lysis, commentary-on-parmenides, book05, proclus
Synopsis On a Friday night we continue to look into the 7 causes (detailed in the Balboa document ), and how to approach understanding them. We look at ‘Cause’ in Plato’s Timaeus . Highlights Niko asks a queston about the Cratylus regarding the shuttle Pierre asks: What is the approach you are using to make sense of these 7 causes: what they are and how Plato uses them? What is your method? Eldar, Barbara, Regina, Philly, Sean, and Jed are all asked how they approach understanding the...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, timaeus, cratylus, commentary-on-alcibiades, proclus
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Synopsis On a Friday night Jitsi meeting, Philly explores a dream with Pierre in between our regular discussion . Dream Texts Philly’s Dream Scene 1 - It’s like this game where there are all these men who are wearing safety vests and safety hard hats, they all look to be like construction workers. - It’s like a montage of all these different men. - I’m not sure if I’m looking at a magazine or something but they’re pictures. - Each one is doing like nodding their heads low and it’s...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis In today’s Wednesday Parmenides meeting via Jitsi, Pierre first helps Sean explore a recent dream . Then Pierre opens up study of the Plato’s Parmenides (using the Balboa translation ) at P1-001 (the first sentence of the first hypothesis) and asks if there is a better reason than Proclus gives, for why the very first sentence on the One should refer to the Many!? In the second...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, theaetetus, hyp1
Synopsis Another lovely Saturday morning with Pierre on Jitsi! What a super way to end (and re-start) the week. Topic Highlights Barbara’s discussion with Pierre on … Dream with Eldar Cause in the Ion , with DonB Robin’s Dream with JeffL 11:18am is Socrates showing evidence of possessing an art (in the Ion )? Must one use their knowledge to benefit the subject, which brings them into a better state of mind? Likewise, in Plato’s dialogue, Parmenides , did Socrates benefit in any way from...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, ion, symposium, parmenides, meno, NSDRM
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Synopsis Before our Friday night study (of Parmenides) tonight , Regina explores a dream with Pierre’s help. Dream Text Regina’s Dream – Thu 4 June 2020 I had an image of a slide, it was wide, white slide and it had huge L’s letter, each one was a huge L. There were 3 of them that were noticeable. But where they came from was like the top of a slide. As they slide down they turned so the letter L was full and had depth. They were all big white translucent white. And as I was watching...
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Synopsis On this Saturday morning, Eldar, Sayon, and Kevin explore their dreams with Pierre. Highlights Some initial discussion of Proclus’ dialectic in his Commentary on Plato’s Parmenides (per ChrisC). Exploration of Eldar’s, Sayon’s, and Kevin’s dreams with Pierre midwifing Dream Texts Eldar’s Dream I was riding my bike down a parking garage and I came to a spot where I jumped down from a considerably tall ledge onto a lower level. At the same time I was hearing an advertisement...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, commentary-on-parmenides, NSDRM, proclus
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Synopsis Pierre leads us through another Friday night, continuing our investigation of how 'properly' translating the 'autos' in Homer's Iliad raises the level of meaning in this work. We are, as usual, indebted to the great work of our own Barbara Stecker, who has identified and listed the locations in Book 23 where the autos occur, and provided possible re-interpretations of these phrases for us to consider. Pierre continues to have us ponder last week's question, but slightly reworded: Why...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, iliad, book23, homer
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 24. Attendees Pierre, JulieH, JeffL, RobertO, Regina, Barbara Credits Recording, title, and highlights: Barbara Chart Photo(s): JeffL, Regina Original Location...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book06, chap24, proclus
Synopsis Dream Explorations with Bradley, Josh, and Jed Continued discussion under Pierre's leadership of Book 24 of Homer's Iliad . What can we conclude about what the Iliad and Chapter 24 are telling us about ourselves? Pierre's Questions to Us What's the point of reading this work? What can we get from it? How does it fit with the Will of Zeus? How would a Greek react/respond to this work? What would they take away? What did each of the people in Book 24 learn? Describe each participant...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, NSDRM, pg1, iliad, phaedrus, book24, homer, nsvc
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Synopsis We first discuss how we want to proceed given Corona virus, and Pierre announces we go ahead and cancel Friday nights (NSFRI's and NSDRM's) and Saturdays (NSSAT's) for the next 5 weeks. He also wants to move the upcoming seminar back a month (it had previously been planned for March 28 2020). Then EldarI (0:08:29) and JeffL (1:05:47) explore their dreams with Pierre's help midwifing. (Dream texts below) At the end (1:26:10), Barbara brings up the question of whether the Parmenides...
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Synopsis We start out our Saturday with dream explorations: Darlene, Don, Josh, Sayon. Afterwards, we go into further discussion on Homer and Philosophical Midwifery . Dream Texts Darlene's Dreams -- 17 March 2019 1st Dream: I have just woken up and am in a bedroom. I'm sitting on the floor next to my bed. The bed is low to the ground. PG is there. I think he also had slept in the same room but in another bed at the other end of the room. The room is long, horizontal. I am still in my pajamas....
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Synopsis NS members JulieH and Eldar explore their dreams with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts JulieH's Dreams -- Sun 5 Jan 2020 #1 Dream this morning I was in a line at the credit union. It wasn’t familiar to me. It was apparently close to closing on a Friday. There were lots of people — mainly women, there were a couple of lines. It was apparently a temporary location and the space was cramped. I had several checks from the Noetic Society that I needed to endorse and no flat service to work...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 23. We start from the 2nd paragraph on page 459 (Prometheus Trust edition of the Thomas Taylor translation), and go to the end of the chapter. Attendees Pierre, David, Eldar,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book06, chap23, proclus
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Synopsis After exploring JeffL’s dream , Pierre has us look again at the first few lines of the First Hypothesis of Plato’s Parmenides . Highlights (with JulieH) reading of first three lines of Hyp1 (2018-jas-formatted version) How do the parts know where to go? Do some wholes comprehend the parts, and others do not? How does a part become a part of a whole? Is Part/Whole an invention we’ve made? Where does the Intelligibility come from? As you look at the first page now, the first 5...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, parmenides, hyp1
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Pierre leads the group through (again) an introduction to three puzzles in Plato’s (First) Alcibiades , along with help from Proclus’ Commentary on the Alcibiades : (a) The Seven Causes (super-set of Aristotle’s four), (b) the importance of naming , and (c) that curious Platonic word, art . Highlights 15:08 why did Proclus need the 7 causes in his Commentary on the Alcibiades?...
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Synopsis Republic, Books 3 & 8 Highlights Geometry, Axioms and PMW with Jed “Do you believe you are here?” Wholes and parts What is an objection? Dream exploration with KevinG Continued discussion of book 8 of Plato’s Republic There is a decline or procession, down from Aristocracy to Timocracy to Democracy to Tyranny. But is there any reversion (back up) in evidence in Book 8? (No) Music and gymnastic. Reading of 410b/c. How does Plato use these terms differently than we use them?...
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Synopsis Pierre midwifes five NS members to help them explore their dreams on a Friday night before the regular talk . Dream Texts Sayon's dream -- Tue 30 Dec 2019 I was heading home through traffic and all these people for lunch from work. I was around all these color people, brown and blacks but I felt safe. This guy says to me and says ‘hi honey, I put this balloon up on the roof’. It was a theatre it turns out, cause I didn’t know what he was talking about. The whole time I was...
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Synopsis Pierre introduces a question across Plato’s dialogues. Then he helps Jed, Chris, and Regina explore their dreams. Highlights Consider the ending of each of Plato’s dialogues: Did the person learn or change? (The real issue is courage .) Jed’s dream exploration, and post-discussion about midwifery Dream explorations with Chris and Regina Dream Texts Ged’s Dream – Sat 3 Oct 2020 SCENE 1 My friend Heath had gone to a prison, and when i walked to the prison with him i had given...
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Synopsis Another great Friday night with Pierre and members of the NS. Highlights continuation with Kate of her talk with Pierre on Wednesday our educational system and its lack of personal insight the ‘Myth of Er’ in the conclusion of Plato's Republic Plato’s goals are not Socrates’ goals nor Parmenides’ goals is it curious that in the Myth of Er, there is no philosopher that is being judged? Did Plato goof? How should we grade him? What standard shall we use? The 10 ox-herding...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, republic, 7th-letter, three-pillars-of-zen, NSDRM, kapleau
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Synopsis Another fun Saturday morning with Pierre, who helped Josh, JulieH, and Regina explore their recent dreams. (JulieH brought in a dream that pre-dated the dream she explored last night with Pierre. We don't usually do this, since the message(s) from earlier dreams most often get repeated in later dreams. But Pierre and JulieH were able to mine good new insights from what she brought in.) Dream Texts Josh's Dream -- Thu 9 Jan 2020 I'm in some middle eastern country and im a guest in their...
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Synopsis In this first part of 3 parts of Friday night, I turned on the camera late, at the end of a talk Pierre was having with SteveD about Socrates' appraisal of Zeno's statements in Plato's Parmenides . So I asked Pierre if he would kindly review their discussion for the camera -- and I could not resist some questions, myself. -JS A JPEG of the board he is pointing to is available in the Download Options menu on this page. Technical Issues This is the first short talk of 3 talks given on...
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Synopsis This Saturday morning we start out with a dream exploration with Kate (here) and then go on to more Parmenides study . Dream Texts Kate’s Dream – Thu 18 June 2020 Driving to mountain area? Janet was there, we were kind of party/gathering? Janet was drinking. I asked her about it. She said she drinks occasionally and it was ok. Thought about how it would be if I drank. A man, driving to mountain area. I in passenger seat, car stopped a few times but he wasn’t concerned about it. A...
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Synopsis Another Saturday morning with Pierre and the gang. Continuing on yesterday’s discussion regarding the comparison of individual goods, Pierre (with Cathy’s help, and her having read the translation from the Balboas) explores how to have a conversation with people regarding their ‘goods’, and what the ultimate Good/goal is, both for us individually, and for all of us – the group we call ‘humanity’. Highlights chat with Kevin Belinda’s question in the 7-page doc from the...
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Synopsis Ged explores a dream with Pierre before our regular meeting . Recitification of names (proper naming). Putting the virtues from Plato’s Republic - esp Justice - on the scenes in the dream. JeffL reviews a fantasy while in Sesshin. Also some of his own notes from another recent Divine Luminosity experience Dream Texts Ged’s Dream – Fri 13 August 2020 SCENE 1 On a spaceship. And thinking about whether i would join that spaceship. It was small, one main, open room, and only a few...
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Synopsis Regina explores a dream with Pierre. Later Pierre asks us to consider why all religions and spiritual systems avoid the question of why we are here, why the soul wants to be reborn, and what is the purpose of our existence? Highlights Regina’s dream exploration with Pierre, and encouragement to write on the Self Plato goofed. All religions and spiritual systems have the same problem, and therefore, they are all inadequate. None of them ask, “Why am I here?”, and “Why does the...
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Synopsis A Friday-night dream exploration with Pierre, with a little pre- and post- discussion. This is our first time having a Friday night meeting online (using the free and open-source Jitsi ) during the coronavirus shelter-in-place. Topic Highlights (0:00:30) Barbara and Pierre initial discussion of triads (a la Proclus) and the Destiny of Man (0:09:03) Barbara, (0:30:40) Regina, (0:44:22) Eric, and (1:20:20) Eldar explore their dreams with Pierre midwifing. (1:37:55) Pierre says hello to a...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 22. [From Barbara]: We read Chapter 22 Book 6, the first paragraph, almost. A lot of discussion about what is reading with respect to the two triads here. Attendees Pierre,...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book06, chap22, proclus
Synopsis Another Friday night with Pierre and the NS, on Jitsi. What is the 7th Cause? What is the Paradigmatic Cause? Is there a way to distinguish among the many goals that people have that they call their good, and find one that is truly better? Highlights Discussion with Jed about the Final Cause How do we make sense of the 7th Cause? A house An example in the Cratylus How does a person know that they are on the right path? How do you know when you are on the road to Reality? How do you...
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Synopsis Pierre explores dreams with Jed, Josh, Sayon, JeffL, and AnthonyN on a Saturday morning. Dream Texts Jed’s dream – Wed 15 July 2020 SCENE 1 I go to this house. And i use a toilet that was in the middle of the kitchen. I move it out into another room, and its ok. But then i come back and there are 2 turds on the floor, and i thought that it must be because the toilet wasnt attached to plumbing when i was using it a moment ago. Laurel (mother) is in the kitchen, and she is ignoring...
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Synopsis Another Friday night with Pierre and the NS, on Jitsi. Pierre asks us to see if we can see the 7 causes in Pierre’s Philosophical Midwifery. Highlights First we make a drawing Example: making a barn workman (efficient/creative cause) plan () for some purpose (that for the sake of which it came into existence) (final cause) instrumental ideal/ideas pragmata (model maker, substance of a model) Self itself emerging, abiding and returning to itself. (Supreme/final cause) Proclus spends...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read . Today was scheduled to be a normal Parmenides/Theology-of-Plato study meeting. But we ended up doing very little reading/studying (except for Regina's question). Instead, it ended up being...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, iliad, philosophical-midwifery, theology-of-plato, phaedrus,...
Synopsis Even though this is typically a Parmenides or Elements-of-Theology meeting scheduled at this time, Pierre wanted to continue on with Homer's Iliad . We finish up Book 24, with Pierre having us consider the anger held by gods and humans, and what got them out of it. Specifically, Zeus' role is considered and his divine plan, and how anger is resolved in both gods and humans. (This is again a Jitsi-meet, during the coronavirus isolation..) Highlights and Questions for Study The following...
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Synopsis Pierre continues to take us through his Athens paper, making the case for a tradition of philosophical midwifery in Homer's time. Today we review step four of Pierre's five points: Dealing with the consequences of the pathologos problem. As before, we particularly reference both of Pierre's “Struggle for Excellence” papers: the 2004 Athens conference paper and its 2005 APPA journal article derivative . Original Location https://archive.org/details/20200501NSFRI Usage License CC...
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Synopsis Pierre midwifes Bradley and Grace on their recent dreams before the regular meeting tonight . Dream Texts Bradley's Dream -- Fri 1 May 2020 Chunying and I go into this shop and I was trying to figure out if this stuff was authentic Shaman goods; Guatemalan. ( I had 3 belt loops in my hand of different fabrications) Grace's Dream -- Sun 3 Sept 2017 and Mon 27 April 2020 -- “Golden Snitch” hanging upside down from a cliff... from my toes. like a bat. looking straight into dark...
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Synopsis Another fun Saturday morning with Pierre and insights from dreamwork and midwifery. Highlights Kate explores a dream with Pierre on a Saturday morning. This leads Sayon to suggest the 5-Second rule (1) to help one move forward on projects, whether asking for a raise or working on a project, which leads to a philosophical midwifery (PMW) talk with Sayon and Pierre about Sayon’s own “clan’s” rules against pursuing his own goals. We explore a dream with Regina A bit of discussion...
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Synopsis On this Friday night, Pierre asks us to consider what criterion Plato is using to reject Homer so frequently in his Republic . Highlights what is going on in books 9 and 10 of Plato’s Republic ? book 10: if Plato is criticizing/rejecting Homer, what is the reason? what kinds of answers truly answer questions? Imitation vs Truth and Virtue What does it take to master Plato? Plato’s criticism of Homer’s view of the gods How does Plato view them? Does he reject only what is being...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 23. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, Regina, JeffL, RobbO, Clara Credits Recording, title, and highlights: Barbara Chart Photo(s): JeffL, Regina Original Location...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Jed explores a dream with Pierre. This gets them into a discussion of Justice, Wisdom, Knowledge, and Courage in Plato’s Republic (which do not have the same meanings as in our language). Belinda explores a dream with Pierre at the end. Highlights Jed’s Dream Wisdom and Knowledge Courage, Pleasure and Pain the danger of calling the wrong things, ‘Good’ Is Plato trying to...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 22. From Barbara: There was a chart and a part of another--ran out of paper, had some more but PG didn't want to stop for installation so he wrote on the side of 2-10-20 and the...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Theology of Plato Book 6, Chapter 23; Phaedo 58a; Republic Book 10, 619b. From Barbara: We read through and worked through p. 458 and 459 in Chapter 23 of Book 6. Fun was had as usual. For...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, phaedo, republic, book06, chap23, book10, proclus