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- 2017-03-14
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- californiarevealed, Native Americans--California, Southern, Acjachemen Indians, Sacred space, Language revival, Language, Juaneño Indians
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Acjachemen (Juaneño) tribal member, Joyce Stanfield Perry, discusses the importance of caring for sacred sites and the origins of the tribe's language revitalization program after discovering original Acjachemen vocal recordings at the Smithsonian Institution. Recorded at Tustin Library;Tustin, California.
Acjachemen (Juaneño) tribal member, Joyce Stanfield Perry, discusses the importance of caring for sacred sites and the origins of the tribe's language revitalization program after discovering original Acjachemen vocal recordings at the Smithsonian Institution. Recorded at Tustin Library;Tustin, California.
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- Date-published
- 2017-06-30
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- Oral histories
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- corcl_000090
- Interviewee
- Perry, Joyce Stanfield
- Interviewer
- Hickam, Nadejda
- Location
- San Juan Capistrano (Calif.)
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- caps00003117
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- Indigenous Voices of San Juan Capistrano: The Acjachemen (Juaneño) Indian Community
- Transcript
- It's very humbling and quite an honor to still be a part of the tribe that a lot of people considered no longer existed. And now, I'm one of the elders of the tribe. Text: "Relocating from San Juan Capistrano" I don't remember, exactly, the dates when they moved out, but it was in, probably, the early '30s; for economic reasons, for work, you know. So, they came - a lot of them moved in to the Santa Ana area. Some of them still stayed in Capistrano, but a lot of them moved into Santa Ana because of more industry and work. But it was probably in the early '30s when they moved up there. We were able to trace my great grandmother back to, I think, 1801. And they go back further, but we haven't been able to research it any deeper than that. My daughter, she's been trying to do a lot of that. Text: "San Juan Capistrano Over the years" We visited a lot with my great grandmother, and it really hasn't changed a lot. The town itself is developing the outlaying areas, but the town itself has pretty much stayed original. They would pretty much cut us loose, like, "This is the adults. You guys go off on your own." But then they would give us this, uh, "Be sure you get home before dark." Because they had what they called the - what they called the, in Spanish they'd call it the, "La Llorona", which was, in English is a, "crying lady." And she was supposed to, she was supposed to wander the earth looking for her kids that she had thrown in the river. So, she said, "So, if you're out there, she's gonna get you," [laughs]. So, it worked. We got home pretty quick. That was pretty funny now that we think about it as we're older. We - actually, we call it fun, but we'd go up and - when we were down in Capistrano, we'd go up the Ortegas, and we'd take these hoes. And we'd cut the - we had the old hoes, you know, and it just had the hook. So we'd play games with the rattlesnakes [laughs]. [Interviewer interjects]: "Did you ever get bitten by a rattlesnake?" RM: No, [laughs] no. And I was always bare footed [laughs]. Text: "Federal Government Payment for California Indians Land" Well, when they got that, to pay for the land; I think it was like, for 24, 25 million dollars, something like that. And it was supposed to be distributed amongst the tribal members. Well, like the government works, you know, when it came down, we all got, like, 500 dollars a piece. I said, "Well, that doesn't divide too well amongst, I think there might have been 2,000 of us; total, registered. But, it might have been - who attended the meetings most the time, were like, 200. But when the deal came up, they showed up out of the woodwork. But anyway, when they did the settlement, they said, "Hey, well, this..." They said, "Oh no, this wasn't for the Juane±o. This is for all the tribes in California." So, that's how it turned out. We got 500 dollars [laughs], and no land. My nephew was involved in monitoring. Myself and my son and my daughter, we're more involved in cultural and songs. The gourd rattling and women use what - it's like a elderberry stick, and they split it and they call them, "clapper sticks." Text: "Federal Recognition" Because, we've hit a lot of roadblocks on the way to tribal - we're recognized by the State of California as indigenous people of the greater Orange county area, but the government will not recognize us. They say we don't exist. So, we've been trying to get our federal recognition and we get up to the Bureau of Indian Affairs and they just turn us down. Even though we probably supplied more information than any tribe in California. And still, they just won't let us get over that, that little bridge that they throw up on us. So, that's kind of sad because I would hope to hand it to our kids here, for the federal recognition. And their attitude is that there's a lot of casinos; they don't want us to get federally recognized because they think that we want to put up a casino in Capistrano, but that's not our purpose. What we wanted is to be able to have access for our kids' education. And we wanted to be able to have, like, an elders' retirement place where they - and elders that don't have a place to go or whatever, and that they - if they wanted to, they could be in, have a place to go. But that hadn't gotten off the ground either. Well, the elders have always been highly respected amongst the Native American people. And, you know, like most of them, like kind of myself, I'm retired, but because of the trade I work for, I'll get a retirement and all that, so - and social security, so I'm pretty well but there's some of them that don't. You know, so that's what we're trying to work. That if they don't have the resources to live comfortably, that we would have a place for them. Text: "Looking to the Future" The future right now, you know, the future doesn't really look too bright right now as far as recognition, but the good part is that we're still sticking together. We still have our meetings and it doesn't deter us from doing the cultural things like the parades and gatherings, you know; and we try to stay updated with where we're at.
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