Websites like CODOH and Holocaust Hand Books dispute the 6 million numerologies, so why do many of the Holocaust myths still persist? Why do the gas chamber stories still exist when forensic scientists debunk them in the 21st century?

The more the two Jewish members of this conversation emphasize the so-called "6 million Jews" number, the more people doubt it and research it to find out the real number was probably 100x lower, in the tens of thousands, not hundreds of thousands and definitely not millions.

Lets have a calm discussion about the forensics of the Holocaust without emotion but dispassionate science.

"The question is: why does the Jewish community feel it necessary to exaggerate the suffering of Jews during WW2?"

That isn't the question.

"No one, not even holocaust revisionists, doubts that Jews suffered during World War 2, but the stories of soap and lampshades made from obese Jewish women, has been debunked by leading Jewish Holocaust scholars, so has the myth of the human homicidal gas chambers disguised as showers."

Soap and lampshades were debunked by evidence. Gas chambers "disguised" as showers was not debunked because the evidence supports it. What you've displayed here is, at best and most generous, is a highly superficial understanding of the events. There may have been some measures to physically disguise gas chambers as showers, and this was certainly done by the SS in the T4 "euthanasia" programme. What is definitely true is that the SS would do their best to convince the Jews that they were being taken to a disinfection/delousing facility prior to going into the main camp. Whether the inside of the gas chamber was physically disguised is irrelevant - once they're inside, it's too late.

Holocaust denial literature/media has been debunked on numerous occasions.

Holocaust revisionism is very controversial, because several 21st century forensic scientists, chemists and engineers no longer believe in the 6 million Jews' were murdered WW2 atrocity propaganda, including a number of Jewish scholars like David Cole Stein.

The question is: why does the Jewish community feel it necessary to exaggerate the suffering of Jews during WW2?

No one, not even holocaust revisionists, doubts that Jews suffered during World War 2, but the stories of soap and lampshades made from obese Jewish women, has been debunked by leading Jewish Holocaust scholars, so has the myth of the human homicidal gas chambers disguised as showers.

The best video on The Internet Archive is: "one third of the holocaust", which everyone interested in this subject should watch.

The following are ground breaking booklets / pamphlets on Holocaust revisionism that everyone should study on www.Archive.org The Internet Archive.

Holocaust Revisionism Handbooks
https://archive.org/details/Holocaust_Handbooks

Introduction to the Holocaust
https://archive.org/details/IntroductionToHolocaustRevisionism

Did Six Million Really Die?
https://archive.org/details/DidSixMillionReallyDie

Holocaust Revisionism and its Political Consequences
https://archive.org/details/HolocaustRevisionismAndItsPoliticalConsequences

Holocaust Industry
https://archive.org/details/HolocaustIndustry_375

Impact and Future of Holocaust Revisionism
https://archive.org/details/ImpactAndFutureOfHistoricalRevisionism

Dissecting the Holocaust
https://archive.org/details/DissectingTheHolocaust_288

Is the Holocaust a Hoax?
https://archive.org/details/IsTheHolocaustAHoax

Hoax or Holocaust?
https://archive.org/details/HoaxOrHolocaustTheArguments

The First Holocaust Hoax for Fund Raising
https://archive.org/details/TheFirstHolocaust-JewishFundRaisingCampaignsWithHolocaustClaimsDuringAndAfterWorldWarOne

Why would any writer make up stories about the Holocaust?
https://archive.org/details/WhyWouldAnyWriterMakeUpStoriesAboutTheHolocaust

The title of this video made me think that the guest historian was going to deny the holocaust during WWII. Quite the contrary.

January 19, 2015
Kenneth Ellman Reviews Richard Douglas Heffner, OPEN MIND
Guest: Dawidowicz, Lucy
Theme: Holocaust Studies
Email:ke@kennethellman.com
Box 18, Newton, New Jersey 07860

The treasure of the Open Mind works by Richard Heffner is an educational resource that could and should be used by educators at all grade levels. It should not be played in the classroom and take the place of a teacher or professor. It should be assigned to watch the video and read the transcripts and then the student must write their own personal understanding of the issues brought out by that wonderful man Rutgers Professor Richard Heffner (now deceased) who interviews and discusses significant concepts with the Guest. The students should be encouraged to discuss and debate the questions explored by Richard Heffner with those very interesting people who he interviews on many and various vital subjects. These student debates with Professor or Teacher moderation would allow the students mind to learn and explore ideas in a critical manner necessary for full understanding.

As regards the comment here by “ manhattansunrise” on May 20, 2014 it is another example and reminder to us that a human being can actually maintain a delusion and refuse to believe that which is incontrovertible.

Germany gassed and burnt millions of Jews, including children and babies. Germany at that time was killing as many human beings as they could, not just Jews. But the attack upon the Jewish nation by Germany was unlike any other onslaught against any other people. Mr. “manhattansunrise” says there were no “ human extermination gas chambers”. He hides under his phony name and makes his knowingly false statements.
Mr. “manhattansunrise” and his ilk, I say that You have the full ability to do your own research in any public or university library. No one can stop you. You have the ability to communicate directly with the German Embassy or Consulate and Government and seek information and knowledge. No one can stop you. You have access to vast library material from various Universities on the internet itself. No body can stop you. SO, why engage in this fantasy that the murder and destruction of so many millions of people, Jewish and others, at the hands of Germany in Gas Chambers did not occur?! Why degrade yourself by believing such things? Do you think the German people and German Government made this up? Perhaps you think Germany is today controlled by Jews or Poles or Russians? If you had any serious interest in this subject you would review the almost unlimited number of documents and evidence available and become knowledgeable about this.
The historical record of what Germany did all over Europe, to the Jewish people and many other innocent nationalities is not in dispute by anyone who looks at the the evidence. The most easily accessible evidence, aside from all the scholarly research is:
1. The German people and German Government themselves have admitted to this massive attack upon helpless human beings. The German High Court and the German legislature have confirmed this
over and over again. Germany has made it a crime to deny the acts of human destruction and the killing Gas Chambers committed by Germany in World War Two. Germany wants to protect the truth and so should you. Germany does not want to repeat this human disaster and does not want it forgotten.
2. The War Crimes Trials, also known as the Nuremberg Trials, held by the United States and the Allies, after the German defeat, encompasses a vast amount of testimony in Court in the presence of and by the Nazi leaders and their victims. The Germans killed so many from every nationality such as Gypsies, Russian POW's, Jehovah’s Witnesses and of course Jews. If they had won the war their plan was clearly to permanently enslave and eliminate many national groups.
Some Internet resources you can reach out to are:
http://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu/php/docs_swi.php?DI=1&text=overview
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/nuremberg.htm
This is an old extract from a conversation with Dr. Klaus Kinkel, State Secretary for the German Ministry of Justice, many years ago on the murder of six million Jewish men, women and CHILDREN:
“Brin–These people who did the killing knew. They knew what they were doing.
Kinkel–I could tell you terrible things that I have heard from my friends in Israel. What I have heard has left me speechless. Of course we know it happened…
Brin–Does he (Dr. Kinkel) have any comments about the American Nazi lovers who are going about insisting that the Holocaust is a myth, that it never happened.
Kinkel–In my official capacity as the executive in the Federal Ministry of Justice, I can say there can be no question that the tragic Holocaust took place and this has also been declared by our Supreme Court. …”
A book that discusses this recurrent massive destruction of human beings and not limited to any one people is:“Worse Than War: Genocide, Eliminationism, and the Ongoing Assault on Humanity” by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen.
Kenneth Ellman, Box 18, Newton, New Jersey 07860. Email:ke@kennethellman.com