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. >> bonnie and her horse won in the junior team category. there were intermediate riders, too, but the biggest race came for the grand prix group, these are established champions with olympic experience. >> the moment you get the medal around your neck. nothing tops that. it's fantastic. that's what keeps top priders like courtney king training several horses every day. >> yes. i'm training for the olympics. most of us who are at this, this is a high-level competition so most of us have that goal in mind. you have the right horse at right time. >> this sport requires a lot of precision and discipline. when it comes to judging, a percentage is between winning and losing. for teen kids news, i'm kristin. >>> we humans tend to think we're smarter than the other animals, but not when it comes to memorizing numbers quickly. researchers in japan have been testing college students alongside chimpanzees. a sequence of numbers is flashed and then it is repeated and the champs are the chimps. >> coming up next, i'll take you to a college founded by a
. >> bonnie and her horse won in the junior team category. there were intermediate riders, too, but the biggest race came for the grand prix group, these are established champions with olympic experience. >> the moment you get the medal around your neck. nothing tops that. it's fantastic. that's what keeps top priders like courtney king training several horses every day. >> yes. i'm training for the olympics. most of us who are at this, this is a high-level competition so most...
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we're like bonnie and clyde. if bonnie and clyde were both dudes. we're like clyde and clyde. >> even when he's with other girls, i know my joshi is still thinking about me. we're really, really happy. >> jimmy: when we're on the floor, we do everything we love to do. we nail chicks, we drink beers and we go to the club. nbc, baby. that's how we roll. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> one, two, three, four, i declare a prank war. five, six, seven, eight, i declare a prank war. [ laughter ] >> so we got this phone, right? it's shaped like a peacock, you know? and j-bro, this guys takes vaseline, rubs it all over it. so he lubed the peacock. you get it? lubing the cock. [ laughter ] >> ew! ah! that's nasty! [ crying ] >> well, someone put some sexual lubricant on the telephone, so the girls decided to retaliate by putting josh's shake-weight device into the toilet. that did not go over very well. >> hey -- hey -- what's going on? where is it? >> where's what? >> they took my shake-weight. i look like an idiot. [ bleep ] >> what are you talking about? why
we're like bonnie and clyde. if bonnie and clyde were both dudes. we're like clyde and clyde. >> even when he's with other girls, i know my joshi is still thinking about me. we're really, really happy. >> jimmy: when we're on the floor, we do everything we love to do. we nail chicks, we drink beers and we go to the club. nbc, baby. that's how we roll. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> one, two, three, four, i declare a prank war. five, six, seven, eight, i declare a prank war. [...
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meteorologist bonnie schneider is here with that. so, if there is some sledding weather out there, you have to wear a helmet some places. >> absolutely. looking back, when i used to go sledding as a kid, that probably would have been a good idea. >> we're still here somehow. >> yes. we are looking at snow, unfortunately, not the fun kind of snow. for the morning commute, we're facing a lot of lake-effect snow into parts of the great lakes. and in michigan, a dangerous blizzard. let's get right to your morning commute tonight and we can show you what's happening. we're going to count down five cities where we're looking at some of the worst weather that may cause you some slowdowns. like in seattle, of course, some rain. that may give you a little bit of a slowdown. atlanta, believe it or not, it's the wind. we've had wind here, but wind will be strong with an advisory in effect monday. new york city, blustery, the high about 43 tomorrow, but it will feel like it's in the 30s because of that brisk wind. and of course, that will likely
meteorologist bonnie schneider is here with that. so, if there is some sledding weather out there, you have to wear a helmet some places. >> absolutely. looking back, when i used to go sledding as a kid, that probably would have been a good idea. >> we're still here somehow. >> yes. we are looking at snow, unfortunately, not the fun kind of snow. for the morning commute, we're facing a lot of lake-effect snow into parts of the great lakes. and in michigan, a dangerous...
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so a character like miss piggy was a combination of the designer, bonnie erickson, who designed the character, and the performer, frank oz, who really created the character, and then the writers -- someone like jerry juhl who wrote lots of her lines. so it's a collaboration to get to that final product. >> ♪ dance your cares away ♪ worries for another day ♪ let the music play >> a show that was very special to jim henson was "fraggle rock." that was a show that was designed to get kids to think about being tolerant of each other, to be ecologically responsible, to recognize that their actions have impact on other people in their world, even if they don't have a relationship with those people. so the "fraggle rock" characters were always looking out for each other. >> although he's no longer with us today, jim henson's influence still lives on. >> he really was a pioneer when it came to putting puppets on television and completely changed the way people look at puppets and use them on television. and any creative puppetry you see now is a descendant of jim's work. >> so, thank you all ve
so a character like miss piggy was a combination of the designer, bonnie erickson, who designed the character, and the performer, frank oz, who really created the character, and then the writers -- someone like jerry juhl who wrote lots of her lines. so it's a collaboration to get to that final product. >> ♪ dance your cares away ♪ worries for another day ♪ let the music play >> a show that was very special to jim henson was "fraggle rock." that was a show that was...
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it said they were the new bonnie and clyde. minutes later, injury was made by the home invasion team. after minimal discussion, dennis dickson later murdered on the floor. a woman inside undetected by the murderous team of home invasion robbers slipped into a closet and called 911 while the crime was still in progress. the officers responded to the woman's 911 call of the shooting that just occurred not knowing the robbers might still be in the house. two officers were first to arrive ma-- made contact with the frightened neighbors. they said they sought a suspect we eastbound -- flee eastbound from the home. they said there were still subject in the house with guns. a shot had been fired immediately after hearing the murdered man say, "are you really doing this?" they also pointed out a bullet had come through their wall from next door. the next-door neighbor showed the officers a hockey mask that was discarded. the officers could have waited. believing the violent crime was still in progress and without regard for their own p
it said they were the new bonnie and clyde. minutes later, injury was made by the home invasion team. after minimal discussion, dennis dickson later murdered on the floor. a woman inside undetected by the murderous team of home invasion robbers slipped into a closet and called 911 while the crime was still in progress. the officers responded to the woman's 911 call of the shooting that just occurred not knowing the robbers might still be in the house. two officers were first to arrive ma-- made...
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as part of the response to the planning department question, i have brought in a -- bonnie bridges, and architect who has been helping me develop the project. -- an architect who has been helping develop the project. >> hello, everybody. basically, sean has a house that sits at the corner of -- i am sorry. it is up at the corner of massasoit and franconia. i am going to show it. you can see from this aerial photo that this particular part of the colonel heights -- bernal heights has a muriatic of streets and hills -- has a myri ad of streets and hills. in addition, this particular block, which will be able to see on this diagram -- which you will be able to see on this diagram, has both the west and east and open -- end open. by not having houses on those ends of the block, you have adequate opportunity for light and air to flow through. the proposed addition the applicant has for a little area on the west of the property would have no impact on the light and air. in addition, in this parcel, you can see the applicant and the next-door neighbor -- the whole bloc faces south. the propose
as part of the response to the planning department question, i have brought in a -- bonnie bridges, and architect who has been helping me develop the project. -- an architect who has been helping develop the project. >> hello, everybody. basically, sean has a house that sits at the corner of -- i am sorry. it is up at the corner of massasoit and franconia. i am going to show it. you can see from this aerial photo that this particular part of the colonel heights -- bernal heights has a...
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arts commissioner john calaway and john santos and internationally renowned artists like paul simon, bonnie wait and herb hancock support this. many local artists in san francisco are potentially impacted financially by the loss of the opportunity to have their music nationally recognized so i urge colleagues to support the rest. and lastly, i'd like us to close the meeting in honor of china town born civil rights and human rights activist franklin fung cho o.i.a. was born on may 29, 1936, and passed away a few weeks ago in november. he lost his life to leukemia and was a nate a native of china town but attended san francisco state university where he was active in the san francisco state third world strike and fighting for ethnic studies classes in our schools and worked for 30 years as a federal employee in washington, d.c. for the eeoc and civil rights commission. he was a long-time supporter of small businesses and promightor of the golden gate caterers and editor of china line and teacher of chinese cooking. he'll be missed by many in our communities and a memorial service was held las
arts commissioner john calaway and john santos and internationally renowned artists like paul simon, bonnie wait and herb hancock support this. many local artists in san francisco are potentially impacted financially by the loss of the opportunity to have their music nationally recognized so i urge colleagues to support the rest. and lastly, i'd like us to close the meeting in honor of china town born civil rights and human rights activist franklin fung cho o.i.a. was born on may 29, 1936, and...
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i mean ari is a small fishing village situated on the island of bonnie right at the mouth of the niger delta. and it's here that the gas sent from the f.p.s. so platform arrives by an undersea pipeline. if it went to the plant ameri ari would be a typical little village. with huts and shacks with palm leaf roofs streets of san music coming from portable radios open air stores kids running everywhere and a soccer match underway and the fisherman returning with the tide. all would be well if next door right next door protected by barbed wire they went sending millions of cubic meters of gas and oil to the most highly developed countries in the world. did by did loading gust to order forty called new york dollars but no one noticed that the community nearby you know about it i mean look any from the company from the. food know. when you come up with these guys know that all looks that. are going to fall was a very deep study lou did not install one this. in the small harbor when the ships come in the giants with gas the tiny ones with fish to worlds rub shoulders i did looks as if the big
i mean ari is a small fishing village situated on the island of bonnie right at the mouth of the niger delta. and it's here that the gas sent from the f.p.s. so platform arrives by an undersea pipeline. if it went to the plant ameri ari would be a typical little village. with huts and shacks with palm leaf roofs streets of san music coming from portable radios open air stores kids running everywhere and a soccer match underway and the fisherman returning with the tide. all would be well if next...
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and bonnie frederick writes this, they are out of control. time they think of the taxpayers, how much is it costing the taxpayers for all this? maybe it's time the 1% take care of business and clean them out of the park. it's our park, too. and listen to christopher. everyone has the right to protest, but when you take it so far, you make yourself look bad and no one will take you seriously anymore. i think happen of them just showed up because it was the in thing to do. i hope they all go home and occupy a shower. folks personally, i tend to agree with all of you. is the first amendment only for nice, organized groups who only stick around as long as it's comfortedable? i know, the city has been bending over backwards, but whenever the government is about to tell a group of nonviolence citizens to shut up and go home, that aught to be the last resort and the situation better be truly intolerable. we don't just tolerate your e- mails, we love them. keep them coming. mail jogbag@wusa9.com is the e- mail. >>> we'll see you tonight at 11:00. log
and bonnie frederick writes this, they are out of control. time they think of the taxpayers, how much is it costing the taxpayers for all this? maybe it's time the 1% take care of business and clean them out of the park. it's our park, too. and listen to christopher. everyone has the right to protest, but when you take it so far, you make yourself look bad and no one will take you seriously anymore. i think happen of them just showed up because it was the in thing to do. i hope they all go home...
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pipe connecting the flow stations to bonnie tom and there's a ton going on a bunny where he is gloat export queue crude oil from day and the pipes are being laid on the ground from here to bony yes what is the technique people from here use for collecting liquid or when they see that when they see that there's a leak they go to disport because it looks from the ground up they want to get to the point on the ground when they get there he put tourists on this stuff is of the i'm pretty good. as well you can still get. used to used to oil too much. or too much too much work here. thank you never stopped. yet dick close it wonderfully to close it in didn't know when to con they open it to. use it all the day time to close it because there willacy they don't want people to see that. you can have you do this you want the oil. they used the mission commission. to the host yeah. it was. all around the makeshift drilling and my group is dead eaten away by the oil it's this type of leak more or less assisted that is the source of the black swamps we pass through. and we learn that retired engi
pipe connecting the flow stations to bonnie tom and there's a ton going on a bunny where he is gloat export queue crude oil from day and the pipes are being laid on the ground from here to bony yes what is the technique people from here use for collecting liquid or when they see that when they see that there's a leak they go to disport because it looks from the ground up they want to get to the point on the ground when they get there he put tourists on this stuff is of the i'm pretty good. as...
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right on to decide if i could one of these areas there was a day we would call forms that we saw fire bonnie also if i want everybody we don't check into. all of this i did write your histories are dead on the trees are dead. on here i used to fish when we were fishing no fish. is condemned for ever when they speak i shall discover that he's been very. large who would see it is so with us because they are always afraid to people dimitris on composition. we mustn't lump everyone together not all the companies behave or have behaved as badly a shell in nigeria. it's just the worst one amongst them. offshore total allows us to go from installation to installation. the jack ryan is a motion a special position by satellite with its derrick and its pipes it conforms to the stereotypical image we have of oil drilling. beneath the boat three thousand meters of water and therefore pockets are a further two thousand metres below the seabed. and apocalyptic been harsh conditions a few months back a crane drag three men into the sea one die. for the nigerians on board the wages are unique you earn a goo
right on to decide if i could one of these areas there was a day we would call forms that we saw fire bonnie also if i want everybody we don't check into. all of this i did write your histories are dead on the trees are dead. on here i used to fish when we were fishing no fish. is condemned for ever when they speak i shall discover that he's been very. large who would see it is so with us because they are always afraid to people dimitris on composition. we mustn't lump everyone together not all...
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but when jay and bonnie silverstein like many american homeowners, asked to lower their payments, the answer was no. >> we are in financial jail. >> reporter: if they could have that rate reduced to 4%, the current average, they'd save $500 a month. but freddie mac, the government-run mortgage giant, that's supposed to make it easier to own a home, won't let them refinance. >> it just flies in the face of common sense. >> reporter: and it makes them angry, because it turns out freddie mac is making money from homeowners like the silversteins, by keeping them stuck in higher interest loans. a joint investigation by national public radio pro publica has found freddie mac has invested a billion of its own monet betting against those loans coming down. >> when the homeowner refinances, freddie mac now loses. >> reporter: legal, but critics now call it a clear conflict of interest. >> what you're doing is telling homeowners, "gee, i'm going to stop you from refinancing, and it's going to be profitable for my portfolio." >> reporter: is it fair to say they set the house rules and then they
but when jay and bonnie silverstein like many american homeowners, asked to lower their payments, the answer was no. >> we are in financial jail. >> reporter: if they could have that rate reduced to 4%, the current average, they'd save $500 a month. but freddie mac, the government-run mortgage giant, that's supposed to make it easier to own a home, won't let them refinance. >> it just flies in the face of common sense. >> reporter: and it makes them angry, because it...
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. >> hello, i'm bonnie erbÉ. welcome to "to the contrary," a discussion of news and social trends from diverse perspectives. up first, the politics of birth control. as the republican presidential nomination race moves to new hampshire, rick santorum who finished second in iowa is now in the spotlight. santorum's controversial position on birth control is gaining attention. the former senator is against birth control and says states should have the right to ban it without interference by the supreme court. this builds momentum for the anti-birth control movement, which progressives have always thought social conservatives would pursue if and when they were able to ban abortion. last year house republicans fought repeat battles over trying to defund planned parenthood, which provides low or no cost contraception to low-income women. and, the u.s. conference of catholic bishops is urging president obama to reconsider the part of his healthcare reform plan that provides birth control to women through their insurance
. >> hello, i'm bonnie erbÉ. welcome to "to the contrary," a discussion of news and social trends from diverse perspectives. up first, the politics of birth control. as the republican presidential nomination race moves to new hampshire, rick santorum who finished second in iowa is now in the spotlight. santorum's controversial position on birth control is gaining attention. the former senator is against birth control and says states should have the right to ban it without...
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bonnie's injuries were not serious. he's back with his family. he went for a walk, he went for a swim and he ended up in a lifeboat. >>justine: we should know that the accused driver in this case is being held on bail pending an arraignment as he will then enter his plea. we will take a live look outside at the one and only golden gate bridge and talk about the special anniversary coming up. our top story with weather and traffic are straight ahead. the >>james: right now it is cold of just not as cold as yesterday. here are our current temperatures. as for the system that is pushing through, the bulk of it actually hit washington and it is still affecting oregon this morning. now we will switch to a radar view and you can get a better look is well to the north. we will zoom in and you can see that it is awfully light. the latest readings look to show nothing really falling in the bay area. what you see out in the pacific will more than likely stay out in the pacific. there may be a sprinkle or two in the coastal hills, but in and around the bay
bonnie's injuries were not serious. he's back with his family. he went for a walk, he went for a swim and he ended up in a lifeboat. >>justine: we should know that the accused driver in this case is being held on bail pending an arraignment as he will then enter his plea. we will take a live look outside at the one and only golden gate bridge and talk about the special anniversary coming up. our top story with weather and traffic are straight ahead. the >>james: right now it is cold...
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. >> hello, i'm bonnie erbÉ. welcome to "to the contrary," a discussion of newand social trends from diverse perspectives. up first, sexual assaults in the military. >> one sexual assault is too many. >> calling it a stain on the honor of the armed forces, defense secretary leon panetta said more than three thousand sexual assaults were reported last year, a slight increase from 2010. but, he added the real number could be much higher, around 19,000 since so few victims come forward. the announcement included a new push to end sexual assault in the military. the pentagon is extending victim services to military spouses and pentagon civilians and contractors working abroad. it will also spend more money to train investigators and lawyers to prosecute perpetrators. although both men and women are subject to sexual assault, women in the military are now more likely to be raped by fellow soldiers than they are to be killed in combat. so, congresswoman norton, this is something the military has been working on for yea
. >> hello, i'm bonnie erbÉ. welcome to "to the contrary," a discussion of newand social trends from diverse perspectives. up first, sexual assaults in the military. >> one sexual assault is too many. >> calling it a stain on the honor of the armed forces, defense secretary leon panetta said more than three thousand sexual assaults were reported last year, a slight increase from 2010. but, he added the real number could be much higher, around 19,000 since so few...
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bonnie from halethorpe....sent in this picture of her littleeravens cheerleaders.that's her niece... terestina... and her daughter breanna. you're watching fox 45 good day baltimore. [ female announcer ] what would you call an ordinary breakfast pastry that's been wrapped in a flaky crust stuffed with a gooey center toasted up all golden brown then given a delicious design? a toaster strudel. pillsbury toaster strudel. so delicious...so fun. mom, we're dying. no you're not, you're just hungry. make some totino's pizza rolls. we don't have any! front... left, totino's. [ male announcer ] well done mom! less drama, more fun! totino's pizza rolls. less drama, more fun! vitamii that can help improve your mood.. on fox 44 news at 5:
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we will head to southern california showing outbonnie and clyde in action -- you the bonnie and clyde in action. >>> he stepped on a land mind with that -- mine with that stuff. >> drug testing for those receiving entitlements. corinne. >> reporter: the debate will get underway in an a list for the first scheduled on a proposed bill. details coming up. 3q get irresistibly clean and fresh carpets in your home with resolve deep clean powder. the moist powder removes three times more dirt than vacuuming alone while neutralizing odors for a clean you can see, smell and really enjoy. don't just vacuum clean. resolve clean. we want to protect the house. right. but... home security systems can be really expensive. so to save money, we actually just adopted a rescue panther. i think i'm goin-... shhh! we find that we don't need to sleep that much. there's an easier way to save. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >>> now "good morning maryland." >>> both side of the same sex marriage debate expected inannapolis today for the first hearing on issue. i am corinne redm
we will head to southern california showing outbonnie and clyde in action -- you the bonnie and clyde in action. >>> he stepped on a land mind with that -- mine with that stuff. >> drug testing for those receiving entitlements. corinne. >> reporter: the debate will get underway in an a list for the first scheduled on a proposed bill. details coming up. 3q get irresistibly clean and fresh carpets in your home with resolve deep clean powder. the moist powder removes three...
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pipe connecting the flow stations to bonnie tell me there's a tell me not a but a wedding is gloat export cuckoo dog from day and the pipes i've been lead on diagram from here to bony he ace what is the technique people from here use it for collecting the could all melt when they see that one to see that they the leakage and be good to disport it because it looks from the ground up so dig dig on to get to the points on the ground when the good did he put tool it's own the self is of the back i'm pretty good. as well you can feel good. because he's too used to oil too much and we're too much too much water here. thanks for the leak never stopped. with dick closing wonderfully to close it indeed not going to come they open it to use it all media day time to close it because they obviously they don't want people to see the. right thing everyone can do if you want to know how the oil security they used something must be missing been missing when it to the host yeah on bono's it was. all around the makeshift drilling a migrant is dead eaten away by the oil it's this type of leak more or less a
pipe connecting the flow stations to bonnie tell me there's a tell me not a but a wedding is gloat export cuckoo dog from day and the pipes i've been lead on diagram from here to bony he ace what is the technique people from here use it for collecting the could all melt when they see that one to see that they the leakage and be good to disport it because it looks from the ground up so dig dig on to get to the points on the ground when the good did he put tool it's own the self is of the back...
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due to enter the public domain they lobby congress to extend copyright most famously with bondo bono bonnie bono bono cher's ex husband who got extended by another twenty years to create what lawrence lessig calls perpetual copyright and gives them cooked a crowd of power. to do exactly this a that we know we're violating copyright law but we don't care because we have the power to tell you to go buzz off at the same time we're going to use it to deprive you of your constitutional right of fair use this is at the nexus of the copyright problem the soap of the people that act bob iger are copyright terrorists disney is a shameless organization that really needs to be broken up as well as these big banks so stephen morris the drummer from joy division said i was quite angry when i first saw it no one asked us they were trading off the band and our album cover but get away with it by apparently saying the design was inspired by us so why isn't that the argument for mega upload we were just inspired by warner brothers music universal music one of the creators of that show californication it's f
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hello, i'm bonnie erbe. welcome to "to the contrary," a discussion of news and social trends from diverse perspectives. up first, angelina jolie. the academy award winning actress makes her debut as a movie director and writer with, "in the land of blood and honey." i sat down with her and the stars of the new movie this week to discuss the movie's influence and the role of powerful women in hollywood. the movie tells the story of danjiel, a bosnian serb and ajla a bosnian muslim. the couple, lovers before the war, are torn apart by the ethnic conflict. jolie conceived the movie to show the impact of the bosnian war on the people who lived through it and as a statement against rape as a tool of war. why this movie, and why now? >> well, i didn't -- i didn't intend on becoming a director, i didn't want to direct a movie. i just, uh, spent ten years traveling around the world in conflict and post-conflict zones and i was moved by the situations and the people i met. and i felt compelled to, and frustrated by l
hello, i'm bonnie erbe. welcome to "to the contrary," a discussion of news and social trends from diverse perspectives. up first, angelina jolie. the academy award winning actress makes her debut as a movie director and writer with, "in the land of blood and honey." i sat down with her and the stars of the new movie this week to discuss the movie's influence and the role of powerful women in hollywood. the movie tells the story of danjiel, a bosnian serb and ajla a bosnian...
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may get a pro get off the uprising here and the entity did nothing about it they were warned and now bonnie well it is apparently been taken so it's not surprising and it does seem like the n.t. is impotence and it's reflecting the needs and desires of anyone in libya at the moment there was a lot of congratulates really talk by cameron sarkozy and the bomber who kept a bit of a distance but was still involved after the fall of gadhafi i think they're going to be very reluctant to admit that what they didn't do was bring about democracy in the country. and in neighboring egypt the newly elected parliament has had its first session most of the seats are occupied by the islamist parties that clinched an overwhelming victory in the first post mubarak elections but as artie's maria emotional reports many now feel there are just going to play by the rules set out by the old regime. is a growing option here in egypt already that with these with this new poll and changes will actually not be as dramatic as people in the revolution demonstrators protesters have expected them to be the muslim brothe
may get a pro get off the uprising here and the entity did nothing about it they were warned and now bonnie well it is apparently been taken so it's not surprising and it does seem like the n.t. is impotence and it's reflecting the needs and desires of anyone in libya at the moment there was a lot of congratulates really talk by cameron sarkozy and the bomber who kept a bit of a distance but was still involved after the fall of gadhafi i think they're going to be very reluctant to admit that...