the best question of this campaign was rick perry in his momement in the sun, his 15 seconds -- the question is a variant on the one that reagan asked -- all but what are y better off todayhan you were a $5 trillion ago was?" >> in the 1960's, when america dealt withth its original s sin on re and a beard to confront what had been a divisive proem -- dared to confront what had been a divisive problem in our nanation's historywe did it at a time when mo domestic produc of the country was doubling. when that happens, you are by nature more genous, more optimistic. it means giving the chance to some else. when the economy goes down as it has this millennium, the p past 12 years what hpensns is that it makes us more protective more defensive, more self- concerned. that accounts in large pt for our inability and hostility toward immigrants. basically, the illal undodocumented immigration is 0 in this country, but it has still become an obsession with h people who are concerned. >> the campaigns and to present alternative visions. the problem is that both divisions are impossible and stupid -- bot

you combine that with rick perry. rick perry couldn't remember three federal agencies. mitt romney can't remember when he left bain capital. you keep having kind of, you would expect at this point that the romney campaign would be in fourth gear and they seem to be stuck in second gear. i think the appearance was awful for him. he cannot get out from always these stories about investments in swiss bank accounts and cayman islands. the point karen was make iing at signing papers when he was or wasn't at bain capital. they can't get into a consistent message about what they want to do for this country and it is really one of the most ineffective campaigns you've seen at this point, particularly that he sewed this up in march. >> i love this going on between you two. thank you so much. >>> coming up on "hardball," more on mitt romney's outsourcing legacy, but fresh predictions on who will take the is that the next year. >>> next, did mitt romney profit off booze? stay with us and check it out. >> and i'm going to work to reform and save -- >> it was a calculated move on hi

(laughter) how is that possible that texas-- texas-- six shooters, conservatives, george bush, rick perry, how is houston electing a gay mayor? no offense. (laughter) >> no offense to all of you and the rest of the world but it was an international media sensation when i was elected but houston elected me six times before they elected me mayor. >> stephen: maybe it was a fluke! (laughter) >> six times. and they knew every time. i'm good at what i do. and houston is very tolerant of a lot of things. they want to know what you can do, not who you are, where you're from. >> stephen: they knew? you didn't hide this? >> no. >> stephen: so your staff said just get it out there. >> i was a lesbian activist before i became mayor. i was a good candidate for mayor and they elect med six times already. >> stephen: can you get married in texas? >> sure i can get married to you if you weren't already married. (laughter) >> stephen: i'm flattered. (laughter) can two women get married? >> no. >> stephen: do you have a partner. >> i do. >> stephen: what the... what is she called? >> well, i call her kath

texas governor and alleged romney supporter rick perry had this to say. >> no matter who you are or what office you're running for, you should be as transparent as you can be. with your tax returns and other aspects of your life. >> and the editors of the conservative national review wrote, romney as a politician running for the highest office in the land, and his current posture is probably unsustainable. this guy has really boxed himself in. he told the country two years of tax returns, that's all you're going to get. there's an arrogance to that, don't you think? just like romney told andrea mitchell last year he wasn't considering releasing any returns. >> and with regards to my tax returns, why, time will tell. that's not something i'm planning today, but never say never. >> but if you were president, it's not that hard to make a commitment, if you're elected president of the united states, you would release the tax returns. every president does. >> if i become president, then i'll consider that. it's a little premature for me to be talking about that at this stage. >> is there some

i'll let governor rick perry explain problem number one. >> you've got to admit: this is almost nixonian if not absolutely nixonian in the coverup that's going on with this fast and furious. >> kpa exactly are you accusing the president of here, governor? >> i don't know. i mean, that's the issue. (laughter and applause) >> jon: i don't know. that's what's so nixonian about it! i don't know! you know, you've got to wonder how a cautious governor like this ends up executing so many people. really. (laughter) i'm telling you, this guy's mansonnian. i'm saying it. it's o.j. simpsonian. i don't know how i know i just can tell! (laughter) and the second problem, while the republicansst would like our -r our outrage at the fast and furious scandal to reach the levels it reached during watergate, it's not the first time they've asked us to go there. >> this pattern of leaks in the obama administration, of grave national security leaks is vastly more serious than what happened at watergate. >> let me ask you about this solyndra deal. >> this makes watergate look like child's play megyn. >> the w

rick perry happens to be the governor of texas. one in four of texas residents have no health insurance. costs have skyrocketed faster than the national average, but do you think that means he's going to go along with the plan? texas isn't alone here. seven states have said they're opting out and another eight look likely to. that means 2 million residents will continue on without health insurance. these states have done the worst job of covering the uninsured. have the greatest need for federal assistance and they are the least likely to accept health. if that's not politics over principle, i don't know what is. 17 million uninsured americans can't wait another decade until republicans have moved on through another litmusç test. privatetizing military, eliminating public education or requiring poor people to pay more taxes. i could care less whether we call the mandate a tax or a go america surcharge. many americans right now, in the fate of 17 million of these uninsured americans is in the hand of america's governors. will poli

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. >> we think of rick perry as having been a bad debater, having performance issues with his campaign, but a big issue was that rick perry was sort of, so to speak, liberal on immigration, on some certain ways, and mitt romney attacked him for it. then he talked about self deportation. he was tough about enforcement. and so he's saying now, i would rather stick by my guns, even if it's going to hurt me a little bit with this community in the general election than be seen as someone who's going to do an etch-a-sketch. we remember that controversy. he's sticking by his guns on it. >> greta: what if he were to come up with a comprehensive program on illegal immigration? he still doesn't have that. i would imagine that would be a step forward to get away from these numbers. >> that's right. he's had pressure to do that. he had an opportunity a couple weeks ago, a big conference of latino leaders, and he was quite vague. he hammered at the theme that's been at correspondent of his entire campaign, the economy, the employment rate, personal incomes and economic security. right now all signs

perry out of office retroactively looking towards the future. no less venerated conservative publication than the national review now joining the likes of bill kristol, george will, ron paul and haley barbour to argue romney's position is untenable in all likelihood he won't able to maintain a position that looks secretive and if the departure from campaign conventions. the only question is whether he releases more returns now or later. we are not so sure about that. room any may just keep fliting, may just keep floating. he may just keep dancing around the thing, much like a certain highly trained olympic athlete of the equine variety as a new dnc ad suggests. >> are you following your father's example? >> maybe. i -- you know, i don't know how many years i will release. i will take a look at what the did -- what our documents are. and i will release multiple years. i don't know how many years. and -- but i will be happy to do that. >> yeah. here's wishing for many happy returns from you, mitt. we have a bangup pan in the house. jonathan capehe

texas governor rick perry, a former republican rival says that romney should be as open as possible. meantime on the other side we've got republicans criticizing the obama campaign for what they're saying about mitt romney. john mccain calls the campaign disgraceful for targeting those tax returns and romney's time with bain. he calls it chicago-style sleazy campaigning and saying the focus should be on the $5 trillion he says president obama has added to the deficit. meantime former new hampshire governor john sununu says that he shouldn't have said that president obama needs to learn to be an american. he is a romney supporter. what he really meant is he needs to learn the american formula for business. lynn? >> all right, tracie, thanks so much. >>> to utah where a southwest sky west airlines pilot wanted in connection with a colorado murder attempted to steal an empty plane from a small airport. the man then killed himself after he couldn't get the plane off the ground. nbc's kurt gregory has the details. >> reporter: a skywest pilot's plans to steal a plane tuesday at the st. ge

governor rick perry, former romney rival in the republican primaries, told the "houston chronicle," i think anyone running for office, if they get asked within reason to give people background about what they have been doing, including tax returns, should do that. and ron paul, who may be harboring the fantasy that the republican convention will turn to him if mitt romney's tax returns prove more poisonous politically said, "in the scheme of things politically, you know, it looks like releasing tax returns is what the people want." joining me now are krystal ball, co-host of msnbc's "the cycle," and karen finney, former dnc communications director and an msnbc contributor. kr kr krystal, i just thing with the "national review" editorial, this is absolutely the worst day of the campaign so far for mitt romney. it's getting worse. yesterday was bad, today was worse. there's got to be a way that i can't see right now, but there's got to be a way for it to be worse tomorrow. >> we're hoping. we're crossing our fingers, right? i mean, it's a disaster for him and it's hitting him where it h

tonight, rick perry will take his cowboy boots to nevada's silver state stampede to lasso romney supporters. let's hope he doesn't step in it and revert to his former talking points. >> they're just vultures. >> i have no doubt that mitt romney was worried about pink slips. whether he was going to have enough to hand out. >> waiting for the company to get sick. and then they swoop in -- >> they lost their jobs. their health insurance. they lost their severance pay. >> they eat the carcass. they leave with that and they leave the skeleton. >> i'm telling you, it is scary out there with the bain battle, the tax thrashing. it's no wonder romney has been laying low until todayment he hasn't faced the public since making his phantom of the opera exit from the naacp earlier on wednesday. now, it seems he'll face the music and just like you, we cannot wait to see what comes out of it. let's bring in our panel in washington. msnbc analyst karen finney and michael crowley of "time" magazine. are you in new york, michael? >> no, i love new york. i wish i was. i'm in washington. >> i'm sorry. i though

>> is governor rick perry a member of the media? >> i'm sorry? >> governor rick perry is not a member of the media. he is the governor of texas. and he said yesterday that no matter who you are, or what office you are running for, you should be as transparent as you can be. do you disagree with governor perry? >> well, norah, i heard the clip that you played just before i came on, and his words were within reason. and i think releasing a few years or two years worth of tax returns plus the one coming up is reasonable. given the past practice. >> there is this. and that is the governor who can and simply answer all the critics of those who say he has something to hide by proving he doesn't have something to hide and then move on to the economy, the issue he wants to talk about. >> well, charlie, look, the fact is that when you have the tax returns that are released, you know, a lot of information comes out understandable. but there's no credible claim that mitt romney's done anything wrong. i mean -- >> then why not let him prove that and show tha

rick perry makes it official. he is bucking the president's health care law. details on that all right here. our current dividend tax rate will expire this year, sending taxes through the roof and hindering economic recovery. the consequences? millions of americans will see their taxes on dividend income spike, slowing investment in u.s. companies and jeopardizing development in energy projects that create american jobs. ask congress to stop a dividend tax hike -- for all of us. >>> skoempking temperatures will rise in texas and arizona today, but for much of the nation, the stifling heat appears to have broken from the midwest to east coast. the heat wave has been blamed for the deaths of 74 people. john yang is in nashville, illinois, with the latest. chicago's hit hard by this heat. what's it like today there? >> reporter: rear we're down state but it's 20 degrees cooler than it was two days ago on saturday. west of here in st. louis, they had ten days above 100. chicago had four days in the triple digits. it's the cumulative effect of that heat that really

. >>> on fox news, texas governor rick perry says his state rejects medicaid expansion in the health care reform. perry argued "to expand this program is not unlike adding 1,000 people to the titanic." on the mclaughlin group pat buchanan was asked when the u.s. will elect a us president. he replied, 2040 or 2050. that late? pat buchanan said, "let's hope so." that's your morning dish of "scrambled politics." >>> here's your "first look" at how wall street will kick off the day. the dow opens at 12,736. after dipping 36 points yesterday. the s&p lost 2. the nasdaq fell 5. looking at overseas trading the nikkei skidded 39 points. in hong kong, the hang seng was down 31. >>> for a third straight session, stocks slid monday. this thanks to worry over european debt, asian weakness and lower second-quarter earnings. alcoa kicked off earnings after the bell posting a loss. nevertheless, alcoa's revenue and profit still beat expectations. and the company forecast growing aerospace and auto demand. >>> spain's ten-year bond yield rose above the 7% crisis level. eurozone finance ministers are

and rick perry said candidates should be as transparent as they can, leaving the romney campaign right back where it started the day, on the defensive. >> peter alexander in our d.c. newsroom tonight. peter, thanks. >>> and still ahead for us as we continue along the way, the terrifying video that luckily ended happily. a new york city bus driver is being hailed as a hero as a little girl was in big trouble. >>> a woman, a rescued dog and an emotional reunion hundreds of miles away. >>> well, talk about being in the right place at the right time. a new york city bus driver was walking home from work when he heard a commotion. and what happened next has made him a hero in the city where he lives. the story tonight from nbc's katy tur. >> reporter: 30 feet up in the air, her hand on the building, her legs swinging off to the side, a 7-year-old girl stood, swayed and seemed to dance on top of an air conditioning unit. three stories below, steve saint bernard stretched out his arms and waited for what looked like the inevitable. >> it was like everything went in slow motion. that's it, i l

the best question of this campaign was rick perry in his 15 seconds -- he said that the question to be asked is a variant of the one reagan asked, "are you better off today than you were $5 trillion ago?" >> a wrecked economy changes politics. in the 1960's, when america dealt with its original sin on race and adhered to confront what had been a divisive problem of our nation's history, we did it at a time when the gross domestic product of the country was doubling. when that happens, you are by nature more generous, more optimistic. it means giving the chance to somebody else. when the economy goes down, as it has this millennium, for the past 12 years, what happens is it makes us more protective, more defensive, more self- concerned. that accounts in large part for our inability and hostility toward immigrants. basically, the net illegal, undocumented immigration is 0 in this country, but it has still become an obsession with people who are concerned. >> the campaign's do present alternative divisions. the problem is, both divisions are possible and stupid. on the democratic side, le

yesterday, ron paul and rick perry called on romney to release his tax returns. and if ron paul and rick perry tell you to do something, you really don't have to do it. [ laughter ] you really -- i mean, it doesn't really matter. who cares? >> steve: enough is enough. >> jimmy: you guys hear about this? there's a new slow-moving storm in the pacific called hurricane fabio. [ laughter ] yeah, meteorologists expect hurricane fabio to touch the coastline, caress it softly and then whisper, "i can't believe it's not butter." [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] enough is enough. that's what i said to him. aw, this is really nice, you guys. today american airlines honored an 86-year-old mechanic who has been with the company for 70 years. passengers were like, "aw, that's so sweet. but he didn't fix this plane, did he?" [ laughter ] "get him out of here. give him a watch." >> steve: thank you. >> jimmy: don't fix my plane. >> steve: no, enough is enough. >> jimmy: hey, this is really fun news. i just read that pixar is planning to release a sequel to "finding nemo" in

the best quotation from the campaign was rick perry in his slight, in the sun -- are you better off today than you were $5 trillion ago? >> a wrecked economy changes american politics. in the 1960's, american dealt with its original sin on race and it dared to confront what had been a divisive problem in our nation's history. we did a time when the gross domestic product of the country was doubling. when that happens, you are by nature more generous, more optimistic. it means giving the chance to somebody else. the economy goes down, as it has this millennium, the past 12 years, what happens is that it makes us more protective, more defensive, more self-concern. that accounts in large part for our inability and hostility towards immigrants. basically, the net illegal, undocumented immigration is 0 in this country, but it is still an obsession with people. >> the campaigns to present alternative visions. the president -- the problem is that both versions are impossible and stupid. look at northern europe. it cannot pay for itself. we cannot be belgium, france in 1992. it is of faith and vi

. >> as the governor rick perry in texas commented specifically on this, publicly? >> i haven't heard him commenting recently on it. he certainly supported this law. he signed it into law last may, i believe it was. may of 2011. >> what are the implications here for this presidential election cycle? >> that's an interesting question. i don't think there would be any -- any tipping of any election in texas. major election in texas. one where the other if the law is implemented in this election cycle. it is the sort of issue that tends to rile up conservatives. so if the law is blocked it will make them angry. it has made them angry. it has been used as bludgeon against the obama administration. eric holder is a poster boy for much of the anger directed towards the administration over fast and furious. over this as well. the republicans have been bashing the justice department for stooiming something by many surveys is very popular and popular among demographic and ethnic groups in texas. >> anything else we should know as we continue to track the news here out of tex

people have the appropriate bill to judge your background. >> and it's not just rick perry. the influential national review online writes in an editorial, quote, romney protests that he is not legally only gazed to release any tax returns. of course not. he is no longer in the realm of the private sector, though, where he can come plooi with the letter of the law and with the securities and exchange commission and leave it at that. per spepgss matter. end quote. romney remains firm. two years of tax returns is enough. >>> mr. romney is trying hard to change the discussion from his tax returns. his latest attempt accusing the president of being anti-business. is evidence mr. obama's comments in a campaign stop in virginia on friday. >> if you are successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. there was a great teacher somewhere in your life. somebody helped to create this unbelievable american system that we have that allowed you to thrive. somebody invested roads and bridges. if you've got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> romney

>> i'm sorry. >> governor rick perry is not a member of the immediate yachlt he is the governor of texas and he said yesterday, no matter who you are or what office you're running for, you should be as transparent as you can be. do you disagree with governor perry? >> well norah, i heard the clip you played just before i came on. his words were within reason. i think releasing a few years or two years plus the one coming up is reasonable given the past practice. >> i mean there is this. that is the governor who can is simply answer all the critics of those who say he has something to hide. then move on to the economy. the issue he wants to talk about. >> well charlie, look the fact is when you have the tax returns that are released a lot of information comes out understandable, but there's no credible claim that mitt romney's done anything wrong. >> why not let him prove that and show that he like other candidates, is prepared to show you exactly the kind of tax rate he had been paying and why. and that in fact he's proud of the success that he has had as an earner as a business executiv

there is an editorial in the "usa today" this morning criticizing rick perry saying he did bring down that number. >> our robust safety net program and hospitals that actually care for individuals to otherwise would not have cared. yet what is going to happen under the president's plan and the affordable care act and was secretary subereous is doing is those dollars will be run from the safety net hospitals and used for other purposes. as a consequence the uninsured we will have yes, to have less access to care or could have liked to have less access to care and the affordable care act. we have a 1200-mile border with our southern neighbor we have a problem of people in this state without the benefit of the social security number. the president in september of 2009 said no one except people who are legal citizens or legal immigrants will be recipients of the new affordable care act. but, in fact, if you don't do something about the individuals who are in the country without the benefit of the social security number, you have not changed anything. safety net hospitals will continue to

perry today. >> i'm a big believer that no matter who you are or what office you're running for you should be as transparent as you can be with your tax returns and other aspects of your life so that people have the appropriate ability to judge your background and what have you. >> pelley: the obama campaign kept up the pressure on all of this today and we wondered what other presidential candidates have done about releasing their tax returns. here's nancy cordes. >> liberal policies don't make good jobs! (cheers and applause) >> reporter: mitt romney was greeted in irwin, pennsylvania, today by a withering new ad from the obama campaign about romney's refusal to release more of his past tax records. >> makes you wonder if some years he paid any taxes at all. >> reporter: romney did release his 2010 returns back in january after much proding from his republican primary rivals. >> i mean, if you're... the idea that you could run for president and not release your taxes is an absurdity. >> reporter: his 2010 returns show romney paid an effective 13%.9% tax rate on nearly $22 million i

in a letter to the obama administration, texas governor rick perry called the requirements brazen intrusions into the sovereignty of our state. >> it doesn't materially improve the health care of texans and americans, and in five short years it will start to bankrupt the state of texas and other states. >> opting out will not stop health care exchanges from being set up in texas. if the state doesn't do it, federal authorities will. texas leaders bet that the supreme court would strike down the health care law, so they've done little to prepare for the exchanges that must be in place by 2014. but there is a provision in the health care law that would allow the state to take over those exchanges eventually at some point if they chose to. anna werner, cbs news, austin. >>> coming up after your local news on "cbs this morning," the mystery surrounding congressman jesse jackson, jr.'s extended medical leave of absence. we'll get the latest from washington. >>> plus the backlog at the department of veterans affairs that's delaying compensation for hundreds of thousands. david martin has a closer

echoing obama campaign calls for romney to release more tax runs and rick perry said candidates should be as transparent as they can, leaving the romney campaign right back where it started the day, on the defensive. >> peter alexander in our d.c. newsroom tonight. peter, thanks. >>> still ahead for us, the terrifying video that luckily ended happily in a new york city driver being hailed as a hero, and a little girl was in big trouble. >>> a woman, a rescued dog and an emotional reunion hundreds of miles away. ok! who gets occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas or bloating? get ahead of it! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day helps defend against digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. hit me! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. ...more talk on social security... ...but washington isn't talking to the american people. [ female announcer ] when it comes to the future of medicare and social security, you've earned the right to know. ♪ ...so what does it mean for you and your family? [ female announcer ] you've earned the facts. ♪ washingto

the former presidential candidate and texas governor rick perry says anyone run for office should be as transparent as possible. perry did not specifically name romney. >>> in arizona sheriff is claiming that he is now positive that president obama's birth certificate is a fraud. maricopa county sheriff said a team of volunteer investigators discovered numeric codes on the document that showed it had been forged. they say the codes were explained to them by a 95-year-old former state worker who claims to have signed the certificate. the state of hawaii released a statement saying they have repeatedly confirmed indisputable evidence that the president was born in that state. >>> d.c. police are lock for a group of people responsible for a violent assault and robbery last month. check out the people in the surveillance video. police say it was right before the violent attack. investigators say it shows the group at a bus stop at the intersection of 7th and 8th streets in northwest. this was around 3:20 in the morning on june 5th. after the attack the group was also caught on tape near