democrats, five republicans, ranging from dick durbin to illinois-- great progressive democrat-- and coburn from oklahoma, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake the reason we were so successful is that we effectively pissed off everybody in america. ( laughter ). >> jon: congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. ( applause ) so now, as you watch these competing plans, you watch the president has submitted his opening offer, which has been derided by the house republicans as an ode to lennon. the republicans have presented their plan, which is to my eyes, steeper than the fiscal cliff we're about to fall off of. where does the simpson/bowles recommendation stand, and are they coming to you now and saying, "oh, we forgot. you guys studied this. what do you think? >> well, we studied it for eight months. and it was tough. we didn't-- we had-- it took us three months to establish trust. these guys don't trust each other. they don't even trust each other in their own party. you've got leaders who are people behind them with a shive hoping

host: senator tom coburn, here's what he had to say recently -- guest: tom coburn said the exact same thing two years ago. we have long conversation, phone. he said we are trying to get to $0.50 trillion spending restraint -- $2.5 trillion. john boehner has reiterated that we have not focused on the debt ceiling sufficiently, he has said you have to cut spending if you want to raise the debt ceiling. tom coburn thought you had to raise taxes to support that. he was wrong. we got the spending restraints are written into law, because we took tax increases off the table. tom coburn went into the gang of 64 months and months and had to walk out of the room because dick durbin and the democrats were not willing to reduce spending. he had to call me and say that i was right and he was wrong. in his conversation with dick durbin he learned that we're not interested in cutting spending -- they're not interested in cutting spending. only when you take tax increases off the table -- and coburn's strategic thinking was just flawed. but after understand where the other team is coming from. if you

. >> this weekend, you can talk with oklahoma senator tom coburn about the fiscal cliff, affordable care act, and the future of the republican party on book tv. the senator has written several reports, including his latest, the debt bomb. that is live sunday at noon eastern on book tv on c-span-2. >> now we talk to a capitol hill reporter about the senate's work on the defense authorization bill. >> the senate has been in a holding pattern on the defense authorization bill, but finally found a way to start consideration of amendments. what broke the logjam? >> rand paul had a desire to bring an amendment that would have applied sixth amendment rights to citizens who had been taken in the war on terror on u.s. homeland. he was concerned he would not get the time. senator mccain is the ranking member of the armed services committee. he assured him he would not try to block the amendment. alternately, senator dianne feinstein agreed to what senator paul favors. that amendment was approved. >> there were several other notable amendments to the bill. can you tell us about those? >> the iran s

host: senator tom coburn, here's what he had to say recently -- guest: tom coburn said the exact same thing two years ago. we have long conversation, phone. he said we are trying to get a $2.5 trillion spending restraint. john boehner has said and reiterated that we have not focused on the debt ceiling sufficiently, he has said you have to cut spending if you want to raise the debt ceiling. tom coburn thought you had to raise taxes to support that. he was wrong. we got the spending restraints are written into law, because we took tax increases off the table. tom coburn went into the gang of 64 months and months and had to walk out of the room because dick durbin and the democrats were not willing to reduce spending. he had to call me and say that i was right and he was wrong. in his conversation with dick durbin he learned that they're not interested in cutting spending. only when you take tax increases off the table -- and coburn's strategic thinking was just flawed. but after understand where the other team is coming from. if you put taxes on the table, they cannot focus on any thin

coburn thought that we had to raise taxes. he was wrong. we got that written into law because we took tax increases off the table. and coburn went into the gang of six for months and months and had to walk out of the room because the democrats were not willing to reduce spending at all. he has not called to say, thank you, my approach was wrong. but in his conversation with durbin he learned they are not interested in cutting spending. they only want to raise taxes. only when you take tax increases off the table, as the republicans -- coburn voted for the correct bill that cuts spending -- he was not trying to do a bad thing. his strategic thinking was flawed. you have to understand where the other team is coming from if you put taxes on the table, they cannot focus on anything else. they do not even see or hear your conversation about spending. you talked about the obamacare medical tax earlier. we just put this out on our website. obama is now going to tax starting january 1 low-income people who have high medical bills. that is one of th

. >> the obama coburn bill was a progressive bill. are the forces for good government and policy is going to be more rambunctious in the second term or not? >> the tech industry certainly will be. i am glad you pointed that out. the use of the word progressive. omb-watch did not endorse the data act. crew endorse the data at, but so did grover norquist. business has to get involved because politicians listen to business. in the area i worked on, companies realize that once the government began publishing information, there are new business models and it will not favor any particular competitive because the same information will be out there for the smallest developer and the largest silicon valley player to use to pursue their own businesses. >> let me just say that we never drank the kool-aid. when have always been pretty aggressive about our views. been pretty critical and we are always pushing for more. -- we have always been pretty critical and we are always pushing for more. we will work with allies where we have them. i have not

the was led by senator coburn. one study found that there was $8 million in homeland security grants given to one state. you can see what they did with their money. and they bought an armored truck with a rotating gunter to using a common security money. justification? guest: who decides what to spend money on? the concept that the local community will be better positioned to choose -- to decide and the federal government will stay out about, one of the problems is that you end up with results like this. the report also point out that local communities in new hampshire also bought or merged vehicles -- and armored vehicles that were ind to protect festivals' columbus, ohio they used the money to buy an underwater machinery. host: and in the kansas city, they purchased in bomb detection -- a bomb detection robots despite already having two. it sat largely unused and was brought back on line are high schoolers. let's go to our first caller. from the breezy and appeared -- from louisiana. caller: the u.s. territories,

. >> what did you think of senator coburn's assessment? he has worked very hard on this to reduce the debt limit>> i have a great deal of respect for the senator, but this, i disagree. it would accomplished very little in terms of economic efficiency. we have so many tax expenditures. with unemployment still high and manufacturing jobs going overseas, -- we need to seek ways to make ourselves a friendly place. i am very concerned that i have seen the president continues to say that 97% of small businesses would not be affected. it is a very misleading statistic. anyone who has any profit from a sale on ebay would have -- we would be calling them a small business. businesses that employ people,more than half of the income is in that bracket. it is a bad time to keep all the tax expenditures and lifting taxes on the few people who are actually creating jobs in this economy. i strongly disagree. >> i have heard different things from businesses and>> they're willing to make some sacrifices as long as we really are on the right path. they see t

tom coburn about the fiscal cliff in the future of the republican party. he has written several books and reports including his latest, "the debt bomb." as is live sunday at>> it progrf the advisers to president franklin roosevelt to document the conditions under which people were living. this was when we did not have television. we had radio but a lot of places did not have electricity so they could not listen to the radio broadcast to find out what was going on in other parts of the country. he was an economist from columbia university and was the head of this project. in 1939 when kodak to use color film, they sent fell to him to have his photographers try out, do.what theuy could kodak wanted people who would know how to use it effectively to try it out and publicize it kerry >> america of the 1930's and 40's comes to life. some of the 1600 color photographs taken during the depression and world war ii. sunday at 10:00 p.m. eastern, part of american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >> a discussion on the links between national security and education

senator tom coburn has talked about redundancy in programs, senators and congressmen not looking back to see if there is a matrix in place and to see if they're actually working so that nonperforming programs -- host: let's get a response, because we're running out of time. guest: once again, i cannot emphasize enough that i am very much in favor of eliminating fraud and waste and inefficiency. it is hard to do. i don't agree with you that we are not doing it already. and i don't agree wiou

today's guests include finance committee member tom coburn and democratic senator stabenow. share elect republican representative henserling and the co-chair. fox news sunday with chris wallace, today's sitting down with chuck schumer of new york and republican senator bob corker, a member of the senate banking committee. also today, the israeli ambassador to the u.s. talking with managing director of the imf, christine lagarde. at 4:00, "face the nation." bob schieffer talks with alan simpson and erskine bowles, co-cahairs, and cory booker. they're all brought to you as a public service by the networks. they begin at noon with "meet the press." 1:00, abc's "this week." and 4:00, "face the nation" cbs. listen on 90.1 in the d.c. area and satellite channel 119. you can listen on your smartphone or go online to cspanradio.org. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of 6-3 and they will say it is precedent. indiana had a voter i.d. -- >> the indiana case was constitutional for them to establish identification. they did not say that all of the st

. >> this weekend, talk with senator tom coburn about the fiscal cliff, the affordable care act, and the future of the republican party. the president has written several books and reports, including his latest, "the debt bomb." live sunday at the 12:00 noon eastern. >> no, we hear from a syrian opposition spokesman about the latest developments in the ongoing syrian civil war. the spokesman urged the international community to intervene, and calls for u.s. leadership, rather than just humanitarian aid. from johns hopkins, this is an hour and a half. >> thank you. thank you for everyone. thank you for the john hopkins university for organizing this event. let me start by sharing with you a personal story that just happened today, which gives you just a sense of how our lives became tragic. today, one of my close friends, a well-known activist in my home town, has been killed by indiscriminate shelling in the city. daria is 7 kilometers south of damascus. and it has been days of fighting with the security forces. this is why the security forces target the city. it is very close to the

. >> this weekend, you can talk with oklahoma senator tom coburn about the fiscal cliff and the future of the republican party. the senator has written several books and reports. join our three-hour conversation with your calls, e-mails, tweets, and facebook comments for medical doctor, author, and senator tom coburn. >> he worked his way up, went to harvard law school, and at the urging of one of his brothers, emigrated out west to illinois. he arrived after about a month's journey by ship, by stagecoach, by train, and arrived on a steamboat in this muddy mining town, board himself in a log cabin, established a law practice, and slowly worked his way up and became a very successful lawyer and then got involved politically, ran for congress, served for eight terms, and then defended abraham lincoln, obviously, from illinois, and then ulysses s. grant. as they were on the rise, washburne stated them is very close colleagues. after grant was elected president, he initially appointed him secretary of state, after which time, he became very ill. his family actually feared for his life. aft

senator coburn will have four or five spending cuts to go through so the senate is going to have a lot of debate on that but there's definitely enough support for the bill to get through in the end whatever the the question is how much of that money should be emergency spending or how much is emergency spending that needs to be spent right now and how much can be pushed back for years. host: on our democrats line, lisa. caller: i'm a resident and live. my promise financially, i am not working. i cannot have -- in my house that the time. my grandson is going to school. i could not celebrate christmas for me and my husband. my husband is going to school and working graveyard shift. and financially and mentally we are suffering very hard. mentally, physically, emotionally. i don't think it's fair about obama. i agreed with obama. i feel that -- i can't name the other -- the other guy going against obama. i feel that he needs to agree with obama, because he is looking out for the people that cannot do for themselves. host: a president was touring the country and telling people to talk to t

senator coburn will have four or five spending cuts to go through so the senate is going to have a lot of debate on that but there's definitely enough support for the bill to get through in the end whatever the -- the question is how much of that money should be emergency spending or how much is emergency spending that needs to be spent right now and how much can be pushed back for years. host: on our democrats line, lisa. caller: i'm a resident and live. my promise financially, i am not working. i cannot have -- in my house that the time. my grandson is going to school. i could not celebrate christmas for me and my husband. my husband is going to school and working graveyard shift. and financially and mentally we are suffering very hard. mentally, physically, emotionally. i don't think it's fair about obama. i agree with obama. i feel that boehner needs to agree with obama. host: the president went out the week before last and was touring the country telling folks you ened to get on your congressma and we need additional revenue. during the christmas break, for however long it is befo

i read about this in senator coburn's report. i have a lot of questions about that. but it is an illustrative example of who decides where the money is spent. the willoughby of the federal level or the local level? -- will be decided at the federal level or the local level. this assumption that was decided a the local level. this was something decided that the local level. the way this typically works is that the recipient of the money generally informs dhs what they're going to spend the money on. they will say, we will have a conference or an exercise. they do not typically report specifically what they spend the money on a job afterward. this can be a problem. host: here is a tweet saying, homeland security grant is just a modern day term for your marks. -- earmarks. sharing his opinion. let's go to pat. caller: you stole my thunder with those of the question -- with the zombie question because that was mine. but are also interested if you can put on a zombie demonstration and be precluded from putting on a jihadist muslim scenarios. is the politically incorrect?

on cbs, dick durbin and tom coburn, the republican from oklahoma. fox news this morning, on fox news sunday, senator lindsey graham, the republican from south carolina, on what senator dianne feinstein, democrat of california. it should be a busy morning on the sunday shows. back to your calls. june is waiting from wisconsin, on the independent line. good morning. host: good morning. first of all, shame on a congress, particularly the republicans who have just wanted to does -- to destroy this country. the tea party, i am so glad i am able to say this, the t stands for treason, because they have done all they possibly can to ruin america, to overthrow our government. host: can you take us through the next 48 hours on this debate on the fiscal cliff? what needs to happen? caller: ok. i say, the president should be willing to come up to $300,000, as far as tax increases. we need revenue. $400,000, some people make that. we need revenue. the only way to get it is to get it from people who actually have the money. there is no shame in helping our govern

he said you better go to coburn. he said i have seven amendments. agreed to split one. we expected -- accepted one of his unanimously. the process was a robust process. >> could you take this bill that passes that scott and do not want to get ahead of our leaders. just as they have irresponsibility on the fiscal cliff they have an responsibility here on sandy. this should give impetus. why not me give some other people a first chance? >> comwe are going to introducet early next year. tax measures are usually done separately. we will be doing that early next here. that is how it has worked and previous disasters. >> they said they are working on an agreement made your next week. they make sure the package as small enough so you have enough pieces to trade with. >> we do not believe we should be trading debt limits. plan with the full credit makes no sense. we ought to do the debt limit on its own. to say we're not going to pay the bill does not make much sense. as for what is happening now, i have spoken to both leader harry reid and leader mcconnell. today agree it was

. >> what did you think of senator coburn's assessment? >> i have a great deal of respect for the senator, but this, i disagree. it would accomplished very little in terms of economic efficiency. with unemployment still high and -- we need to seek ways to make ourselves a friendly place. i am very concerned that i have seen the president continues to say that 97% of small businesses would not be affected. it is a very misleading statistic. anyone who has any profit from a sale on ebay would have -- we would be calling them a small business. more than half of the income is in that bracket. i strongly disagree. >> they're willing to make some sacrifices as long as we really are on the right path. they see that as their own long- term liability. thank you to both of you. >> thank you to my colleagues from pennsylvania. i would like ask dr. hassett -- the president's proposal had some specifics. i think it is clear there is a headline tax increase that he wants $1.60 trillion. what the administration would describe is $600 billion in spending

yesterday, it was parker and coburn. today, florida governor haley barbour. he said, "i would take raising rates on the top brackets if, in return, we had tax return." he wants the rates to go up on the top two brackets. as soon as republicans accept reality, middle-class families taxes will not go up. i am confident an agreement can be reached. >> [indiscernible] placeholders and cloture motions? some republicans are saying this is restricting the amendment process, and part of the reason they are threatening to filibuster. why have you chosen to pursues those -- pursue those practices? >> i have explained before, but let me give an example. we have to spend 8 to 10 senate days, a couple of weeks, to get on a bill, because they virtually oppose every time we try to get a bill. that with 10 days. with that 10 days, if we did not have to do that, there could be amendments. we arrive at a point where we do not have time to do that, when you do that hundreds of times each congress. we have done it hundreds of times in the last six years. they are crying wolf. it

. >> what did you think of senator coburn's assessment? >> i have a great deal of respect for the senator, but this, i disagree. it would accomplished very little in terms of economic efficiency. with unemployment still high and -- we need to seek ways to make ourselves a friendly place. i am very concerned that i have seen the president continues to say that 97% of small businesses would not be affected. it is a very misleading statistic. anyone who has any profit from a sale on ebay would have -- we would be calling them a small business. more than half of the income is in that bracket. i strongly disagree. >> they're willing to make some sacrifices as long as we really are on the right path. they see that as their own long- term liability. thank you to both of you. >> thank you to my colleagues from pennsylvania. i would like ask dr. hassett -- the president's proposal had some specifics. i think it is clear there is a headline tax increase that he wants $1.60 trillion. what the administration would describe is $600 billion in spending

line is, let's pass the middle class tax cuts that are for 100% of americans, let's join tom senator coburn on raising revenues because we have to or senator -- there are -- there is a growing bottle of folks looking to raise toongs the top 2%. the speaker pro tempore: the time of the gentlelady has expired. ms. jackson lee: i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from hawaii seek recognitions. ms. any roneo: to address the house for one minute -- ms. hirono: to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. horono: many of us were waiting to see if manti te'o would win the heisman. his story is compelling. manti is someone who has trained so hard with his parents solidly by his side to play football well. you should hear the stories by his father. he plays the game for the come rodry and the building of friendship. he's not only gifted but a very humble young man. ms. hanabusa: many may not know that he may not have played his senior year because he lost his girlfriend and grandmother within four days of each other. he

. >> what did you think of senator coburn's assessment? >> i have a great deal of respect for the senator, but this, i disagree. it would accomplished very little in terms of economic efficiency. with unemployment still high and -- we need to seek ways to make ourselves a friendly place. i am very concerned that i have seen the president continues to say that 97% of small businesses would not be affected. it is a very misleading statistic. anyone who has any profit from a sale on ebay would have -- we would be calling them a small business. more than half of the income is in that bracket. i strongly disagree. >> they're willing to make some sacrifices as long as we really are on the right path. they see that as their own long-term liability. thank you to both of you. >> thank you to my colleagues from pennsylvania. i would like ask dr. hassett -- the president's proposal had some specifics. i think it is clear there is a headline tax increase that he wants $1.60 trillion. what the administration would describe is $600 billion in spending r

yesterday it was coburn. today was another. he said he would take raising rates are the top 2 bracket -- and went on with other things he wanted. he wants the rates to go up on the top 2 brackets. i am confident that agreement can be reached. >> [inaudible] some republicans are saying that this is restricting. that is part of the reason that they are threatening to filibuster. why have you chosen to pursue this? >> i will give you an example. we have to spend eight to 10 days. we need to get on a bill. they virtually opposed every time we tried to get on a bill. that wastes 10 days. we could have been on a bill and an amendment. we do not have time to do that when you do that hundreds of times each time. there are scores of times we have done it. hundreds of times in the last six years. they are crying wolf. >> other than the big fiscal cliff, what else do you need to get done before leaving question mark -- leaving? >> we need to do the supplemental funds. intelligence gathering apparatus. we have to do something on spending.

. >> what about senator coburn's assessment, in wanting to reduce the debt? >> i disagree. i have a great deal of respect for the senator, but i disagree. the fact that we have so many tax expenditures both on the corporate and income tax side that operates with inefficiency, with jobs going overseas, we need to seek ways to make ourselves a friendly place for investment capital and small businesses. i have seen that the president continues to say that 9 % of small businesses wouldn't be affected by the top rate, but that is a very misleading statistic. anyone who has a profit from a sale on ebay, we are calling them a small business. but the businesses that employ people, more than half the income is in that bracket. we are looking at a bad time keeping all the tax candy on the few people who are creating jobs. i strongly disagree. >> i have heard different things from some of our businesses that want this big deal, and they are willing to make some sacrifices as we are on the right track. thank you. >> thank you. my colleague from pennsylvania? >> thank you to my colleagu

host: senator coburn had a report that he sponsored. it was written up in the papers last week about homeland security grants that has really ballooned since the 9/11 attacks. and you're looking at cities that have made up implausible scenarios for terrorist attacks. room to cut? guest: i think so. yeah. i'm not an expert in the homeland security area, but i'm familiar with the general point, and i i agree that when the federal government starts giving out grants like this there's lots of room for abuse and madeup roles and madeup responsibilities to try to get federal money. i think that's probably taken the place to some extent and i'd take a hard look at cutting it out. host: isabel sawhill, your thoughts. guest: no one can disagree with the thought that we need to make sure that the federal government has well-performing programs. i would give the current administration pretty high marks on worrying about that. they have a whole program in place to evaluate programs and where the evidence suggests they're not working, they are tryin

process again because not only of a large vote to but because there was bipartisan -- i went to senator coburn, what amendments do you need? lamar alexander said it, he has a whole bunch of ruminants. i said, what do you mean? i have seven amendments. if you give us a time limit so we are not here for ever given the limited time. he agreed to split one we thought will the two pieces together. we accepted what of his unanimously. i think there is good will here. if we have to come back, no one will ask we do the process all over it in because it was a free and open process. we hope it is a metaphor for the with the senate can work to build the next year. >> do you take the book that passed -- >> i do not want to get ahead of our leaders in discussing the procedure. our goal is to get the house to vote. this does they have a responsibility of the cuts will put, they have a responsibility on sandy. the fact it was not a part as a boss to give an impetus to put it on the house floor. let's give some other people in a first chance before you go to other people towards. >> will introduce it early ne

coburn: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from oklahoma is recognized. mr. coburn: i'd ask for order in the chamber, please. the presiding officer: the senate will be in order. please take your conversations outside of the chamber. the senator from oklahoma is recognized. mr. coburn: the sandy supplemental appropriations bills provides $3.5 billion in funding for new construction projects through the corps of engineers. of that $3 billion of this account is towards reducing future flood risk. not repairing present. reducing future. i talked to c.r.s. this morning after listening to my colleague from new york. on average over the last 25 years the average participation rate was 35%, 65%. no exceptions. for future mitigation risks were made during katrina. it was not 100%. it was not 90%. all this does is restore it back to what we had traditionally. and what we know is that projects that shouldn't get funded won't get funded when we have this kind of ratio. i reserve the balance of

coburn: be called up. officer the clerk will report. the clerk: mr. coburn for himself and mr. mccain proposes an amendment numbered 3371. mr. coburn: thank you. this is another good-government amendment. one of the things that's happened since fema was set up is that we have what has occurred -- what has occurred has created a disparity between the states, and let me outline. in the last six yearstest. -- in the last six years, the states with the most disasters, most of you would not realize, is observing oafnlgt we'vis okl. we've had 25 certificate tied cs in oklahoma. now, how did that happen? it happened because the calculated damage -- certified calculated damage has not been updated on a regular basis. so what's the effect of that? the effect of that is a state like new york or california or texas can have exactly the same disaster as oklahoma but it won't be declared a disaster because oklahoma has less than 4 million people but we have "x" amount of dollars, but because we have such a smaller population, we qualify for disaster declaration, whereas if the same thing ha

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number 3355, mccain-coburn. i ask unanimous consent senator coburn be added as cosponsor. the clerk: mr. mccain for himself and mr. coburn proposes amendment number 3355. mr. mccain: i ask that further reading of the amendment be dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: mr. president, this amendment is ver a very sie one. it calls for striking the funding of some $58 million for the as. program for planting trees ton private property. it is actually a farm bill subsidy program that's run by a relatively unknown agency that's called the farm service administration, which is primarily responsible for managing crop insurance. under this program, private landowners with about 50 acres of land can apply for up to $500,000 in free grants for tree-planting activities. obviously, this has nothing to do with an emergency, and there's nothing in the supplemental that limits the funding to hurricane sandy areas. under this bill, this $58 million can be used just about anywhere. i'd like to make a few remarks about the bill itself, so we have this in the r

coburn: there's no reason to take additional time. the fact is, is just what we have right now on fema, they have pre-bid contracts. what's going on in new jersey today is they didn't take the lowest competitive bid contract on the debris removal. so we're going to spend about 20%, 25% more because the federal government's paying for it. the vast majority of the money in this bill isn't going to be contracted out initially. as a matter of fact, only $9 million -- $9 billion is going to go out right away. and that is in terms of flood insurance. the rest of it's coming from the fema funds, the dirk funds and everything. none of those are competitive bid. it won't have any impact at all on housing, home flood insurance or any of those other areas. doing it right, getting value for our money is important, especially now that we face the difficult fiscal times that are in front of us. i'd urge a "yes" vote and yield back the balance of my time and ask for the yeas and nays. and it's my understanding that we will be going to the next amend

3369, coburn 3770, as modified, the two divisions, coburn 3371, coburn 3382, coburn 3383, tester 3350, paul 3376, paul 3410, mccain 335, merkley 3367, leigh 3373, coats 3391, that no amendments -- yes, leigh as lei. that is 3367 as modified, 3373 as modified. that no amendments be in order to any of these amendments fryer votes in relation to the aims, that the amendments be subject to a 60-affirmative vote threshold, this athere object 30 minutes of debate equally divided in the usually form, with the exception to l following, 20 minutes on the coburn amendments, one hour equally divided on coats amendment. the senate proceed to votes in relation to the amendments in the order listed. there be two minutes of debate equally divided between the votes. all after the first vote be 10 minutes votes. upon disposition of the pending amendments listed, the senate proceed to vote in relation to the pending substitute amendment as amed, if amended, upon disposition of the substitute, the cloture vote be withdrawn, the bill be read a third time and the senate proceed to vote on passage of h.r.

coburn: mr. president, i ask at this time that the amendment be divided in the form i now send to the desk. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. coburn: mr. president, i'd like to talk about coburn 3372. actually, that's not the correct one. i'd like to talk about division 1, which has to do with per capita damage indicators and initiating a rule process updated. the state of oklahoma in the last seven years has had more declarations of disaster named than any other state in the country. and the standard used to be is if we have an overwhelming disaster that overwhelmed the ability of the state to handle it -- and we've gotten away from that. and this hasn't been updated since 1986. what this amendment does under the stafford act of 1988, the whole purpose of our emergency response was for us to step in and provide assistance when state and local capabilities are overwhelmed. it is clear that in new york and new jersey and in communities that were affected by this latest storm, state and

. >> you can talk with oklahoma senator tom coburn about the fiscal cliff, affordable care act and the future of the republican party on booktv's index. the senator has written several books and reports including his latest, the debt bomb. join our freedom our conversation with calls, e-mails and tweets comical doctor and author and senator tom coburn at noon eastern on booktv's in depth on c-span2. >> now on booktv thomas stanton argues the difference between companies that successfully made it through the 2008 financial crisis and those that didn't was willingness of upper management to listen to feedback before making decisions. this is about an hour and 15 minutes. >> good afternoon and welcome to the cato institute's. i'm the director of financial regulations, mark calabria and i am moderator of today's book form. when reading press coverage of a financial crisis one constantly comes across phrases like the banks did this for the banks did that. lost in these generalities, there was no one responds to the financial crisis or events that preceded it. different firms took a differen

mike crapo comments xp chambliss and tom coburn and the turbine on the other side actually step out on a limb here and it will tell you where we are in tribal politics that when barack obama praised mccain and six, and need to see a republican senate immediately sent an e-mail to "politico" saying that kills the land. if he is for it, work instead. this is less about ideology now than tribalism. so that's the challenge we have and it's not encouraging moderates are providing space. it's intimidating them. getting into the question of every time i get people who live congress, look at republicans in the psyche been inside a tent we are breathing a gas and suddenly you're outside and say how could i have done not? how could i have acted that way? whenever ideas is to create a shadow congress that consists of former members who span the spectrum, to start a common set of facts and have them debate not in the way congress used to because congress is never a great debating society, the genuine debates and discussions that are going to have huge audiences but can provide a model for how vote

i'm going to take my rebuttal of the coburn amendments and just abbreviate them. with the exception of being willing to accept the amendment where you can't get emergency assistance if you are a tax cheater or if you've passed away, with the exception of a funeral benefit i really object to the coburn amendment. my objections have been so well articulated by the gentleman from new york, mr. schumer; by the gentleman from new jersey, mr. menendez, i'm not going to preet them. i'm going to ask unanimous consent that my written rebuttals be in the record. the presiding officer: without objection. ms. mikulski: and in the interest of time, i think we're all agreed the very intent to save money by adding delay and bureaucracy will cost money and will cost time in terms of getting people back on their feet in both their home and in their livelyhoods because remember what we seek here. helping people get their life back and helping get their livelihood back. and i think they have been very well articulated. i would like to take the opportunity to call up and dispose two

senator tom coburn "the debt bomb," and robert draper wrote "do not ask what good we do inside the u.s. house of representatives." do you look for the books when they come out by members of congress or politicians? >> guest: i mean, i certainly note them, but i feel as if, at least from my stand point, that the books are a way to entrench members of congress, not just in their positions, but, also, potentially, to position them for future runs be it within their current offices or maybe something different so it seems as if it's more of a calling card than it is furthering their career as authors. certainly, being authors of books is yet another feather in the cap of politicians so it's just a way of announcing to the larger public that they are part of the larger conversation. .. >> we paid attention to the mark rubio book when he was touted as the vice presidential candidate then we lost interest. he has a future in the republican party. it will come back. >> host: well known for members and officials have written books including colin powell, madeleine albright another book "prague

a little off the beaten path for members of congress, senator tom coburn, the debt bomb and robert draper has written a book about congress, do not ask what good we do:inside the u.s. house of representatives. do either of you look for these books when they come out by members of congress or politicians? >> i certainly note them but i feel as if from my sense these books are way too entrenched members of congress not only in positions but potentially to position them for future runs weather within their current offices or something different so it seems as if it is more of a calling card than it is furthering their career as doctors , certainly being authors of books. it is a way of announcing to the public they are part of a larger conversation. >> i wonder how much is written by a member of congress given their schedules and the need to raise money. >> you're looking at time management. >> i don't know. i always remember, nathaniel hawthorne wrote some president's campaign biography and got a job, patronage job. an old tradition, the beauty of obama's memoir which he wrote before he was

a little off the beaten path for members of congress, senator tom coburn, the debt on and robert draper has written a book about congress. do not ask what do we do inside the u.s. house of representatives. do either of you look for these books to make him out by members of congress are politicians? >> guest: i certainly note them, but a few at least from a standpoint that these books are a way to entrench these of congress not only in positions, but potentially to position them for future runs within their current offices are maybe something different. it seems as if it's more of a calling card and furthering careerist authors. the authors of books is yet another feather in the cap of politicians. deshaies a way of announcing to the public that they are part of the larger conversation. >> host: it's going to sound a little cynical or skeptical. i also wonder how much the book is written by a member of congress given their schedules and the need to raise money. i always remember that they had no horicon wrote the campaign biography for a patronage job. the whole tradition of campaign boo

coburn: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from oklahoma. mr. coburn: i ask the quorum call be dispensed with. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. coburn: i just wanted to spend a few minutes talking about the reid amendment 3255, and 30 point out to my colleagues i know this amendment will pass, but i believe we ought to be on record as voting to add $1.7 billion in additional funds that our kids are going to pay for. this is paid for, but it's smoke and mirrors. we've used a trick in how we do this. and ultimately what's going to happen is here's another bill that will require funding from the health account at the pentagon, which is in operations and maintenance, which means we will not have $1.7 billion for naval exercises, for flight training, for tank training, for range training. in other words, out of this account is where comes all the preparedness. and i must give president obama credit. he has recommended what the committee recommended doing for the last two and a half years. and now we have an amendment that takes where the

and the obama coburn building. does not matter what the ideology. are the forces for good government or progressive policies going to be more rambunctious? >> i think that tech industries certainly will be. i am glad you pointed that out about the progress of because i was going to point out that, yes, the omb watch endorsed the data act. didn't you? i am getting an example of a progressive group. grover norquist did. there is a bit of a broad consensus in favor of open data. i think what has to happen in the data areas that business has to get involved because politicians. [indiscernible] and at least in this area, the area that i work on, companies are realizing that was the government begins publishing information which is a voluble public resource that we build business models on it and it will not favor any particular competitive business intermission will be out there for the smallest developer and the largest silicon valley player to use to pursue their own businesses. >> let me just say, we never drink kool-aid. we have always been, i think,