that is the test for marco rubio and paul ryan. >> what about chris christie and bobby jindal? >> christie is in temporary quarantine because of his behavior in the last week of the election. he is in talk. -- detox. >> detox on the jon stewart show. >> you have bobby jindal, kelly ayotte, ted cruz -- unless you are barack obama, you don't imagine yourself as president before you even serve in this and it. [laughter] he will have to wait. obama, of course, is the one exception. but this is a strong young outfield. mitch daniels and in jeb bush on the outside. what this tells you is what could have been in 2012. you remember the line of it republican candidates earlier this year, it was not exactly a credit to the party. and 20 debate heard them. -- hurt them. >> the quarantined governor christie and the new jersey has a 72% favorable job rating among his constituents, the highest ever recorded by quinnipiac -- i mean, of any governor of any state. whenever republicans have done to shun him has worked very well in the garden state. [laughter] >> what about some of these other na

the two on the budget committee voted against paul ryan's budget. the chairman of the budget committee. speaker boehner issued these punishments with the full support of the republican leadership including the majority leader eric cantor and majority whip kevin mccarthy. jonathan capehart, this is fascinating. i am interpreting this as a positive thing for president obama and the democrats in an attempt to at some point either before or after going off the cliff, reaching some kind of deal with boehner. what boehner's message seems to be to these conservatives willing to vote for something because it is not conservative enough. i need better team players if i'm going to walk back from the white house with a deal. i need your vote on it. >> right. by removing the two from the house budget committee, they basically, what he's doing is putting in people who will do what he says. people who will get him the votes out of the budget committee that would then make it possible for him to take it to the floor and get a big vote. wrthsds we will see it as muc

chris: helene. >> paul ryan. it takes a lot of chutzpah to say two hours. olympians running at that. but that's a really -- chris: that's 13 miles an hour if you do the math. >> that's amazingly fast. >> i like ryan. he was on the campaign trail insisting that after obama became president obama had closed a plant, a g.m. plant. and people said, was actually closed in december. george bush was president. he kept saying it. now, that really takes something. >> i'm going to go with an italian but not that italian. silvio berlusconi. convicted of tax fraud and sentenced to four years in prison decides this is the perfect platform to run for prime minister again. chris: that's how he got there in the first place prorblee. that's chutzpah. next category, the hard to -- hardest to figure out, nominees for 2012 mysteries. what president obama was thinking in that first debate and a muge mystery predicting -- and a huge mystery predicting the plot and david petraeus, his mystery and the email she fired off to the woman in florida who is a big friend of all the gener

jack kemp and paul ryan are the exceptions. [applause] toward the end of the campaign, paul's staff called me and said, paul really wants to talk out on an anti-poverty agenda. could you organize an event in no haohio that would bring the leaders from around the state who have experience transforming not only lives but also revitalizing neighborhoods. i identified 20 people and sent him to hit -- send them to his staff. they had to be vetted and secret service looked over the list of names. i got this call from paul's staff that says, three other people -- three people out of the can you send me had criminal records. i said, i am shocked. i thought all of them had criminal records. [laughter] [applause] i said, do not worry. they have been redeemed and baptized. everything will be just fine. i said, trust me on this one. one of them at the round table, they came there are with tattoos on with his wife of 30 years on his harley, he was one of our stars. he said to me, do you think it is ok if we just prayed and laid hands on pau

i'm wondering -- i know former vice-presidential nominee paul ryan actually endorsed you. what do you think of that given the lack of leadership for women in congress. >> paul ryan was long-time good friends with tom price and he made that decision long before he was tapped to be the v.p. nominee for the republicans. we also have a good relationship. you know, it was a spirited race, but i think it was -- that's healthy for the conference. i'm excited about the fact the conference elected me to serve in this role and provide some leadership. we have a record number of women that were elected to the house as republicans in 2010, and now we have three women serving on the house republican leadership team. actually, four, because wagner is also on the leadership team with virginia fox and wynn jenkins. so that is exciting. it is fun to see more women running for office across the board but also on the republican ticket and running and being successful. i believe those are important voices we bring in these discussions. >> congress is kind of the de facto communications expert

paul ryan lost his home state of wisconsin. i would not want to be paul ryan's shake weight today. probably getting a vigorous. a lot of people are wondering what the president will do differently in his second term. i'm hoping obama announces this will be the black half of his presidency. [ applause ] the last four years were pretty white. i'd like to see him put a little more funk in it. i'd like to see him turn this mother out for a change. i heard a lot of people sail over the last few weeks that if obama wins, they're going to move to canada. how come nobody threatens to move to mexico? [ laughter ] must be depressing for them. they're just as close. they're closer to us here. the presidential election is that special time every four years when americans gather around their tvs to be reminded where the states are on a map. [ laughter ] when did they put vermont up in the corner there? that was recent, right? they changed that. fox news was definitely the channel to watch last night. they were all over the place. they didn't know what to do. at one point, karl rove, you know ka

>> paul ryan. >> yeah. >> obviously, as a democrat, somebody i'm watching for a long time. i think he came out of this race with a good reputation. and i think that, you know, he has a lot of opportunity this year. he's known as a reformer in the party. the republican party is doing a lot of introspection of what they need to do to address the changing demographics of this country and an opportunity to step up. >> how does he do it in the house? >> he is a leader in the house and known as ideological. this is an opportunity to open it up a little bit. >> kevin, you picked with the big two. >> yeah. well, i think marco rubio is one of the people i picked because i think to perry's point, people looking for a new diverse voice inside the republican party and i think whether he likes it or not, he'll be a national figure in that regard and going to sort of be emblem attic of the republicans' abilities and effort to reach out to newer audiences and they're also looking for people that are going to represent the future of the party. many conservatives will use i think marco rubi

>> paul ryan. as a democrat, somebody i've been watching for a long time. mitt romney's running mate. i think he came out of this race with a good reputation. he -- he has a lot of opportunity this year. he's known as a reformer in the party. the republican party is doing introspection of what they need to do to address the changing demographics in the country. he has a chance to step up. >> how does he do it in the house? >> he's a leader in the house. known as being ideological. >> kevin, you picked, you have the big two. >> marco rubio is one of the people i picked. people are looking for new, diverse voices inside the republican party. whether he likes it or not, marco rubio will become a national figure in that regard and be emblematic of their abilities to reach out to newer audiences. and looking for people who will represent the future of the party. many conservatives will use rubio as vessel for what they believe is rebuilding the party. >> his first tests getting immigration over the finish line. how does he do it, make it happen, navigate it -- >

paul ryan is pumped and ready to go. what's with the hat there, fella? and what's an awards show without this guy? he survived a really rough year and he's looking just great tonight. the evening is about to get started. so take a seat before clint eastwood yells at it. sit back and enjoy the show. now, without further adieu, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome your master of ceremonies and the host of "politics nation" u the reverend, al sharpton. >> good evening. i'm al sharpton, host of "politics nation." it's a big night. and we're going to be giving out awards for the high and low points of politics in 2012. to do that, we have a star studded cast of judges. jonathan kapart. victoria difrancesco soto. crystal ball and richard wolf. all looking very elegant this evening, i might say. let's get right to it. let's go right to the first category. let's get started with the best performer in the thriller award. richard, who made the best political move of the year. >> can i be the simon cowell of this panel? okay, here we go. best political move. i am t

vp candidate paul ryan. >> there was a lot of googling about what does paul ryan think about the economy. the number one was paul ryan shirtless. >> worst way to show your true colors. the guy who had the romney/ryan logo tattooed on his face. ever hear of bumper stickers? best fund-raising. both sides stuffed their piggy banks until they squealed. total amount raised by the parties and their supporters, nearly $6 billion or enough to hire 3,600 extra teachers for ten years. just saying. worst running mates, other republican candidates who crushed their hopes about taking the senate with comments about rape and abortion. worst thing in all of politics once again this year, the united states congress, which according to gallup americans trust just slightly more than car dealers. >> the good thing for congress is there's nowhere to go but up. >> best way to keep the polls going down. that delay tactic called sequestration. neither party wanted to address the tough issues before the election, so they kicked the can down the road right to the fiscal cliff, and of course, they blamed each oth

also paul ryan hasn't evolved either. his ryan plan which we called a road map to ruin the first time and the second time and the third time we took a look at it divides america in terms of makers and takers. it still divides this country. that's what john boehner is putting up as counterproposal to president obama. they need evolution on the scientific front and economic front if they're going to succeed. >> jennifer: and on the inclusivity front. even george w. bush had a speech yesterday where he was talking about the importance of immigration and you know, obviously rubio has been saying that but if they continue down this path they've been on, it is over for them. 2016, we have a new poll for hillary clinton or at least testing the waters as "the washington post," abc news poll, not her testing the waters but them. a poll showing 57% of americans support a presidential run by clinton. 37% oppose it. how much time off do we give her after she steps down from being secretary of state before we start to read the tea lea

marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from rubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't wa

is this, tony, a generational divide, the paul ryans and chris christie and bobby jindal? is it really that real divide with the very conservative wing of the party? and if either case, how do they bridge that divide moving forward? >> i do think there is a need to talk to america differently. maybe it is generational. i feel like i span that generation where i find myself now older than a lot of new republicans even elected officials right now -- >> they have the 80s class in now. >> i don't know how i became old but i have. but it does need to be a shift to new republicans. there a lot of them out there. frankly i'd love to see the media talk to a lot of new republicans, the jeb hencerlings and paul ryan and bobby jindal and marco rubio, a lot of strong, younger voices in the party i would like to see more on. i turn on the tv and see newt gingrich back on tv. he hasn't been a republican leader in about 16 years. that's a long time. we need to shift and hear some of the newer voices in the party. >> i have to say just because you have some gray hair doesn't mean you can

put it back into paul ryan's hands and let's lead. >> i heard paul ryan's name mentioned. of course, his office, don't look at us. we support boehner. but look, if there was some revolt, if this thing is real and people will start mentioning ryan and it builds and builds and builds, i mean would he be somebody who said no to that? >> i think he would say no very quick. he might have other plans perhapses in 2016 and running for speaker, win, lose or draw would be bad for all those plans. i consider are this rahmer to be a three beer rumor which is after about the third beer people like we should replace boehner and that sounds like a good idea and repeat that enough and then it becomes a rumor. look, the staff i talked to on the hill, even the members i talked to and even the members against boehner on plan b there is no true conversation to replace john boehner as speaker right now. >> laura: wouldn't that also be, chip, you you can stay on this, wouldn't that look disasterrous for republicans in the middle of the fiscal cliff thing they throw boehner over the edge or sta

. >>> john maynor has erick kanter and paul ryan keeping the tea party on line. jan shakur boesky tells us what republicans really have up their sleeves. karl rove is back. the man who wasted millions of dollars on the electrical is now predicting a fiscal close outcome. >>> dick cheney has once again reared his head to attack president obama's foreign-policy. lawrence wilkerson will show us how what the former vice president still isn't shooting straight. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. michigan became the 24 states in the union to past so-called right to work legislation, a major birthplace of the labor moment became the latest target of the right wing. big money interest infiltrating statehouses across this nation. this is what is happening. it's time to pay attention. thousands of protesters jammed the capital in lansing, michigan, as the lame duck session passed the right to work bill. demonstrators made their passions known. >> right to work is wrong! right to work is wrong! right to work is wrong! right to work is wrong! >> these protest

paul ryan and mario rubio speaking at the leadership award dinner in washington. both made not so veiled references of mitt romney's 47% remark. >> both parties tend to divide americans in to our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. >> there are millions of mario rubios across america today. they're not looking for a handout. all they want is a job that provides for their families. >> with me now, roger simon for politico and quote a column "when all falls, gop could try democracy." roger, a great pleasure having you on. your reaction to ryan, rubio and former president bringing up issues we didn't hear in that tone of republicans in the election. >> well, the republican party fell off the demographic cliff in the last election and trying to climb back up and seeing a change of tone. it's not a change for george w. bush. to his credit, he's always been pro-immigration. campaigned on it, even in 2000. but for the rest of the party, they're coming the realization that the republican party cannot exist nationa

paul ryan has issued a statement saying he will vote yes on this. it says, chairman ryan will continue to work to stop tax hikes. chairman paul ryan's thought is that it meets that criteria.ree ryan, suddening n inly now he i to say he is in favor of this one. and he may find himself the thing tomorrow he is in favor of is unable to be brought to a vote in the house if john boehner can't round up those votes. >> absolutely, i mean, if you have grover norquist and you have paul ryan saying that this is okay for republicans. it is okay to raise taxes over a million dollars. it is not okay to raise taxes over 250 million, what is the principle here? what are we trying to uncover as the traditional republicanism, particularly when there is no hint on the table. i mean, there is nothing there. there is no principle on the table. i don't know how they can say with a straight face, not only to republicans and to independent america, we have a principled position with regard to deficit reduction and avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> governor dean, through a dif

nick, you're going to be the next paul ryan. the guy is wicked smart. he's a problem-solver, but he is going to advance the conservative side on the fiscal side and watch this guy. he will be the next paul ryan. trey, he comes from the most conservative part of the state. he can throw a punch. but he does it in a way that his colleagues on both sides of the aisle respect him. there is no stronger voice in the house of representatives on legal issues, fast and furious, benghazi, the way you conducted yourself in front of the nation makes us all proud. jeff couldn't be here, but he has passed legislation that would make this nation energy- independent. that's pretty impressive for somebody who's been in the haas for one term and newly -- house for one term and newly elected. tom, you bring to the table problem solving. you were chairman of the county council. you understand your district has got a lot of opportunity. you're the cash cow for the state. all of us are going to myrtle beach one day. that's the american dream is to go to myrtle beach. and he b

it's santa claus versus paul ryan. that's right. action.org, a coalition of progressive groups, turned to santa to spread the word about middle class tax cuts. and he has a run-in here with the house budget chairman. >> paul. >> oh, yeah. hey, santa. >> paul, i was looking for you. >> i got to run. i got people waiting for me in my office. i got to get going. >> i just want to give you the heads up, two weeks. coal on the list right now, my friend. don't be a scrooge this christmas time. call congress today and urge them to vote for tax cuts for 98% of americans. >> ho, ho, ho. >> a politically charged santa claus might be too much to handle. a ppp poll earlier this week showed a plurality of americans think santa claus is a democrat. >>> a muslim infiltration conspiracy strikes again. this time in texas. school officials in the dallas district received a bizarre chain e-mail linking to this website. check out this headline. islam in texas schools. why can't teachers disclose the content? wow. far from writing it off as a dose of cr

. >>> plus, a big night for paul ryan and senator marco rubio. did they just make a big announcannouncement? announcannouncement? you'll hear it for youououououou [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actual like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. offering some of our best values of the year. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. >>> the senator is blasting president obama for his handling or lack of handling of the fiscal crisis. senator is warning it's increasingly clear that the president is comfortable going off the cliff. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for

two gop members tossed from paul ryan's budget committee. the crime was bucking leadership too often. they already have several big name conservative organizations behind them. how big a problem is this conflict civil war for john bainer? >> i think it's a huge problem. john boehner has never been able to exert leadership over his caucus. he has the biggest gavel any speaker has ever had and he has no power over his caucus. he knows the math but he has these donors. the donor class in the republican party is very far right and they feel they should be exempted from participating in funding our civil society. they just don't feel that their taxes should be raised one dime. >> these are not elected people, these are funders that throw money at the republican party. >> absolutely. they have become divorced from having to rely on the republican establishment to channel their money through. they could go to third party groups and they did it effectively. think of a guy like dick lugar who was winning by saddam hussein margins who was winning in i

have -- and paul ryan does not want to be at the austerity guy. republicans are eager for a makeover on a party dominated by over-straight white men. this has created an enormous opening for other 2016 hopeful spirit we just saw paul ryan's speech. -- hopefuls. we just saw paul ryan's speech. mike allen moderate a discussion you can see live at 8:10 a.m. eastern on c-span 3. on "washington journal," peter welch, joseph schatz, plus your e-mails, comments, and tweets. house democrats found a discharge position today to force the house code to extend bush-era tax cuts. the bill has already passed in the senate. here is nancy pelosi. >> we all know the president made it very clear he was supporting the extension of the middle income tax cut. everyone, 100% of the american people, would benefit from it. 100% of taxpayers, small businesses, wage earners, and the rest. the republicans are saying rather than passing that, they want to hold it hostage to giving an additional tax cuts to people making over $250,000 a year. that is not negotiating, that is

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recogniz otherwise, ear all going to be soup at the end of the day. >> harry reid cites paul ryan as one of those giving boehner heartburn. do you think ryan is trying to bully boehner with his presidential dreams, his p 90x? >> there's a great shakespeare play to be written involving eric cantor, paul ryan, kevin mccarthy and others. we've seen in the course -- >> is that the comedy of error s shakespeare? >> i think it's more of a tragedy than a comedy. >> maybe "hamlet." >> they all end up on the floor at the end. >> exactly. >> poor york. the thing is the internal dynamics of that leadership bloc have been fascinating to try to watch and discern from the outside, and eric cantor has gone from playing good cop, back cop, back and forth -- >> your book details all of that. >> up until last year and it's taken a few new rounds since then. the question is whether boehner has the ability to negotiate in good faith with the president without being stabbed in the back by one of hirs tehis team leaders. at the moment you see these story in the post and the ti"th time times", that boehner

paul ryan was the honoree last year. yes, andrea. these are two guys without question are going to be in that 2016 presidential race barring some sort of unforeseen circumstance. they're both positioning themselves to lead the party. i'm interested to see what they talk about, because i think both of them -- paul ryan is talking about poverty. marco rubio is talking about education so not two typical what we would traditional republican issues, taxes and those sorts of things. this is an attempt by both men, i think, and a chance for both men to expand on what it means to be a member of the republican party and to try to broaden an appeal we saw in the 2012 election is just not broad enough particularly among hispanics. they are problems with women and young people. rubio is 41 and ryan is 42 years old who are leading a youth movement that the party hopes will change that appeal, correct their demographic problems and it starts even though the election is a month old, it starts today. >> i would put bobby jindal in that group as well

how could paul ryan hate women if he has a mom. all the mothers out there and the people who cook me food. >> mitt romney was going to give women flex time so they could go home to cook food. i thought the most sad and absurd moment was the -- you were talking about how you got together to defeat them. it was the planned parenthood versus susan komen fight. in the midst of this, we had to deal with women's reproductive rights were at odds with one another. that was painful. thank you dorie, i appreciate you coming to play on the show. we'll be back with more. after the break, sandra fluke. she will tell us about the year she is never going to forget. have a good night. here you go. you, too. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of ger

if there is a leader in that tea party movement, you know, it is paul ryan. paul ryan is at the table and he's serving as a liaison to that conservative wing in the party in the house. i think actually boehner, what we're going to see has learned from the past in his leadership troubles in the past and he has put together a leadership team on this very issue where he has kind of his, you know, hands in every part of the caucus right now. >> liz, matt welch, great to have both of you here. thank you. >>> meantime, crowds have been pouring into michigan's capital this morning to protest that controversial right to work legislation we talked about yesterday. at least 10,000 people are expected. this could turn out to be the largest demonstration in michigan state capital history. the state house takes up two bills that would make it illegal to force workers to join a union or pay fees similar to union dues. the outcome is considered a foregone conclusion. governor rick schneider says he will sign the bills. in michigan yesterday, though, president obama said wha

you have paul ryan and marco rubio speaking at a jack kemp dinner. and i want to play a piece of sound from each of them. and it says something about how they see the future of the republican party. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we need to speak to the aspirations. we must speak to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> newt, that's a long way from the 47% of mitt romney. >> well, first of all, every republican should be focussed on what we just talked about. i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the re

paul ryan is very popular with those members. he is not however riding a surge of popularity after the presidential election. >> no, he is not. >> so there is definitely a risk here. and polls show that president obama has the upper hand here. you know, voters trust him more to handle the situation. if voters don't trust congress as much and even more when you break it down, there is more distrust of republicans and they do stand the risk of being blamed here for -- if this goes awry because john boehner is trying to walk this tightrope between his caucus and striking a deal. >> to ken's point, our new poll shows americans believe the president was elected with a mandate to raise taxes on earnings above $250,000, to reduce the deficit with a balanced approach, to eliminate the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, and to implement his health care law. all of those, bill. so why are republicans behaving as if they have the mandate in these circumstances? >> martin, it makes absolutely no sense. unless it's a colossal head fake by the spe

. >>> plus, a big night for paul ryan and senator marco rubio. did they just make a big announcannouncement? you'll hear it for yourself. >>> the senator is blasting president obama for his handling or lack of handling of the fiscal crisis. senator is warning it's increasingly clear that the president is comfortable going off the cliff. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> so you think the president is comfortable or does he want to go off the cliff? >> well, he's being advised to go off the cliff. howard dean has said it. papatty murray said they shouldo over the cliff. i think the president sees a political victory for his party if they go over the cliff. i know republicans are concerned that there's going to be a second recession if we go over the cliff. >> what does he gain from going over the cliff? >> well, taxes go up on everyone which gives the president lots of additional money to spend on new government programs. additionally, he has all these military cuts that many liberal democrats have been hoping for for y

. >> equally as important, you have the chairman of the ways and means committee, paul ryan paul ryan is the budget, you can have anybody from the senate, you have to basically sit down and do this in a very serious way. the fiscal cliff come as you have said, it is a man-made crisis. it is not a real crisis we want is only one man, this president who put forward an ultimatum demanding taxes on what he calls the wealthy. you haven't got a crisis, but an opportunity to work together. when the president delivers an ultimatum like a dictator in a third world country instead of to the congress of the united states, the house of the people -- i mean, e have lost our way here, haven't we? >> yes, we definitely have. those republicans that got reelected, and the one i got elected -- basically said they were not going to raise taxes. they have a fiscal plan. the fiscal plan means that you want to bring down the trillion dollar per year deficit. we want to get to the point where you have fiscal stability in this country. at this point in time, we are just playing games, and i think it is fooli

i wrote up paul ryan last year. i got paul ryan's last year. who's your man this year? >> well, he's someone who has stood firm for conservative principle, has been vilified for it, and he emerged triumphantly and in the process never had a harsh word about any of his enemies while the whole world was watching. i refer to wisconsin's governor scott walker, the fighter with a heart. >> all right. and amazing thing. i know him quite well and had him on the show. and he had a bigger number winning. his margin was bigger when he ran for the recall than he did when he first ran, which i thought was incredible with all the union and fiscal reforms he had that were so controversial. >> exactly. and many people, larry, who wound up voting for barack obama and helped the obama/biden ticket carry the badger state even with the native son on their republican ticket, nonetheless voted for scott walker in that recall election. because they liked what he was doing. very simply, it's making some state employees pay a little bit more for their pension and health care packages, not as m