. >> the bigger policy failure also is after the removal of gadhafi in libya, what was the follow-up? in addition to that on egypt, i'm not making that up. it's in the document that they provide to susan rice to prepare her for the sunday shows. >> there it is. here is the problem, hillary clinton was the one who was supposed to a, testify, and go on the talk shows. what's the reason for the terrorist attack? she was the one who had to have said, well, it was the video that caused the attack. they knew she couldn't do that because she was going to run in 2016 and they could not throw her under the bus at that pointt so she hits her head. cou she has to spend two weeks out of commission, can't testify, can't go on the talk shows and they send susan rice to do her dirty work. >> to take bullets. >> she had said that after that. that the video. she's already said that. >> because then that's the point, bob, that they were>> s already too far gone. then they had to get the cover-up and it begs the question of who pushed thegs cover-up. >> who cares? >> i care.e >> if you think russia or c

-backed government since the out offer of gadhafi. why couldn't f-16s do a play theover to disperse the crowd? and no fbi for three weeks because it wasn't safe? really? and to hillary, you're the telephone champion. >> it's 3:00 a.m. and your children are safe and asleep. who do you want answering the phone? >> i'm hillary clinton and i approved this message. >> so hillary, why were you on the phone with the president of tunisia that night? no americans were dying in tunisia. and even before that, why did you continue to downgrade the security for our ambassador while he and his staff were asking repeatedly for more security? all the while the cia telling you that al qaeda affiliated training camps, at least ten of them, surrounded benghazi. and hill. why did not you go on those sunday morning talk shows? too busy racking up those frequent flyer mails? and why tell dead man's parents that would you get the guy who did the video. that you were so quick to blame. and even more revealing, 36 hours before ben rhodes' e-mail linking the w

. >> quick point, i preferred gadhafi to the current leadership of libya. that's why i oppose the bombing of assad in syria because i prefer assad to the rebels who would replace them. we cannot medal in the east. it's never going to happen, not in this era of modern history. and look what is happening in egypt, what do we do about ukraine? egypt will settle more or less. it's better than it was a year ago under the muslim brotherhood. in ukraine, you have a situation where putin has bit off a big hunk of ukraine. now let him dijust it. he will not be able to do. he has gotten himself a new chechnya. the comak will shrink. >> i don't think so. >> what we do is protect our side, nato, that's our >> to be continued. thank you so much, and plenty more ahead as the factor moves along. the leader of the los angeles naacp resigns in the wake of the donald sterling controversy. donald sterling controversy. >> and will it be clinton versus [ female announcer ] this allergy season, will you be a sound sleeper, or a mouth breather? a mouth breather! [ whimpers ] how

propelled grenades and other weapons grabbed hundreds of miles away in libya after the fall of moammar gadhafi. >> boko haram may have got hold of surface-to-air missiles including sa-7 missiles. there's significant concern about that. not absolute proof they've obtained these, but significant concern. >> reporter: now a claim from amnesty international that nigerian security forces were aware of a plan to attack the school four hours before it happened, but failed to deploy enough troops. nigerian security forces knew about boko haram's impending raid, but failed to take the immediate action needed to stop it, the group said in a statement. the nigerian government adamantly denies it knew anything about an impending attack on the school. behind the scene, the u.s. is talking to the nigerians about sharing satellite imagery and electronic communications, but with every day that goes by, those girls are in more jeopardy. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> as you heard, many times the group boko haram is key in this story. its claimed responsibility for scores are attacks on christian and gov

says the chaos in the country is the direct result of the foreign meddling which helped topple colonel gadhafi. the genie back in the bottle the intervention unleashed forces. point there the you know the country is awash in weapons and all these militias have been empowered by having these weapons many of them are not going to be. you know they're going to be reluctant to to be mobilized it's already the case that the central government doesn't control the country it's already the case that there are rival centers of military power the other question i think that people should be asking is you know what does this say about the u.s. military western military intervention in libya three years later there's no government that controls the country three years later there is there is chaos. self-defense forces are on full alert in a sea cranes nearly proclaimed denounce the people's republic and the region khan ties with kiev after a popular vote last sunday and activists are expecting a new wave of government crackdown will tensions are highest in the city of slovyansk that's been besieged by tro

says the chaos in the country is the direct result of the foreign meddling which helped topple colonel gadhafi in the first place. it's hard to put the genie back in the bottle. the intervention unleashed forces. put there are the countries awash in weapons and all these militias have been empowered by having these weapons many of them are not going to be you know they're going to be reluctant to be demobilized it's already the case that the central government doesn't control the country it's already the case that there are rival centers of military power the other question i think that people should be asking is you know what does this say about the u.s. military western military intervention in libya three years later there is no government that controls the country three years later there is there is chaos three more tonight's big news headlines a state of emergency declared in parts of bosnia you know after the heaviest rain for one hundred years has hit those countries flooding is already claimed at least twenty lives helicopters big used to rescue thousands of people serving authorities

madman the cruel irrational are you sad are aware that saddam hussein was called the madman moammar gadhafi was called nicknamed the mad dog of the east i think there are signs of that in the portrayal in western patrol of bashar al assad as well why do you thing . this pattern keeps occurring my own theory is that if you for trade the vans and those lies it's easier to justify the quick and speedy intervention but i guess you would have a different take on that well some of these leaders are ruthless dictators every one of these leaders needs to be understood accurately in his own cultural historical and political context and that explains a great deal of their behavior why did this society choose this particular view. at this point in historical time in many ways the leader is the creation of his followers and it's a mistake to just think of the leader as an isolated individual controlling a country he he he governs the country often with the consent of the governed sometimes as a dictator but but but more often there are many enthusiastic followers i think this is a very interesting poin

would she have ousted gadhafi that led to a destabilized are libya that led to benghazi. and mrs. clinton, do you support your husband's decision to give the pakistanis a nuke? what could go wrong. not to be asked questions about monica lewinsky, about her role in an administration that's been apologizing and avoiding the war we are in with radical islam. deliberately. >> you simply cannot lay this all off on hillary clinton. >> she was the secretary of state. >> i'm telling you -- you know what it is? greg's partially right about this. is it politically incorrect to upset muslims, to hell with them. upset them because ias far as i concerned. >> the thing is, within weeks of john kerry becoming secretary of state, that group was designated a foreign terrorist organization. you have to say, what changed? >> if hillary wants to be president, she just has to make sure that candy crowley is moderating the debate. >> quick round on this one. mrs. clinton told robin roberts regarding a benghazi hearing, nothing to see here, after all that was so long ago, dude. listen. >> are you satisf

been relegated to the clouds of truth less bloody dictators on par with saddam hussein and moammar gadhafi dusty's psychological profile really fit that description that's coming up in a few moments on all the part. i marinate join me on thirteen deaths impartial and financial reporting commentary interview and much much. only on bombast and on. exactly what happened that day i don't know but a woman i killed. piers later is when i got arrested. for a crime i did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about polygraph results. innocent people to confess the police officers don't beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this is like meant no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse and they were they could do what they wanted they can say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. i think. everybody. did you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a

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bombings that took place and support the military operations command and condemn the attack on partment by gadhafi loyalists. >> reporter: forces from the malitia attacked the country's parliament and said they were acting on the general's orders. >> translator: terrorism exists in our country and seeks to spread under the name of islam and the islam religion but islam doesn't have anything to do with them and we are all muslims. >> reporter: the caretaker government which is weak and struggling to reign in powerful malaysia has proposed an initiative to end the worsening crisis. it has called on the general national congress to elect a new prime minister, if it fails to do so then the current caretaker government would remain until new elections are held on august 15. the initiative also calls on the gnc to take a break until a new body is elected. i'm with al jazeera, tripoli. >>> still to come, a place where boko-haram was born and the biggest security threat. >>> i'm phil at the caan festival with no shortage of female actors this year but where are the female directors and that is a sore subj

all of these celebrities have performed for moammar gadhafi. joining me from washington is a man on the other side of the tweet war with bedu, jeffrey smith at the rfk center. thanks so much for joining us, sir. we want to mention we reached out to bedu, but she didn't reply. she said you were ridiculous and manipulative. why such an extreme reaction? >> that's a very good question, ronan. thanks for having me. the comments you mentioned by her didn't -- won't even scratch the surface of some of the names she called me. and a co-author of mine whom we wrote a piece on this entire issue, at one point questioning our sexuality, calling us racists, and if erica badu had any semblance of the context in swaziland, she wouldn't have reacted the way she did. first and foremost, this is the last absolute monarchy in africa. there are serious human rights abuses that take place there, including arbitrary detention, torture, all political activity is banned. so here we have the rights to freedom of expression and freedom of assembly. erica has a right to

clinton's closest aides, she is in touch with the libyans and told them sharia was behind the attack, not gadhafi loyalists. this e-mail was entered into the record today at the hearing. >> what are democrats saying? >> this morning house minority leader nancy pelosi seemed to dismiss the testimony. >> diversion, subterfuge. benghazi, benghazi. why aren't we talking about something else? what i know of what i've read in the press about the -- the e-mails were very consistent with what was put out there before. i don't think there's anything new there. >> another democrat at the hearing this morning made clear it was levels opinion more should have been done-not that more could have been done to save the four americans killed in benghazi. >> might be some who, for various ropes would like to distort your testimony and suggest that you're testifying we coulda, shoulda done a lot more because we had capables we didn't utilize. >> that's not my testimony. >> the house speaker issuing a statement within the last hour, calling on secretary kerry to he on the hill. unless more documents are proceeded in

spreading across tripoli and appears to be some of the worst since the 2011 revolution that ousted moammar gadhafi. two people killed and dozens injured. four rocketed reportedly slammed into a libyan tv station. this comes as retired general vows his self-declared libyan national army will keep attacking islamist fighters in the city of benghazi. right now the u.s. ambassador to libya, deborah jones, is out of the country on a preplanned leave. joining me live, cnn producer and reporter. you visited the u.s. embassy in tripoli many times is it safe for the ambassador to return or too risky? >> the embassy in tripoli is one of the most fortified places life seen here. it reminds me of baghdad's green zone, black walls and a sizable marine contingent in addition to security personnel protecting it. it's on the outskirts of tripoli. the situation's fluid and unpredictable, before the fighting erupted we have seen the u.s. ambassador, deborah jones, active here in tripoli. frequently out and about, and meeting with libyans of all walks of life but in situations like this, as you know, diplomatic miss

gadhafi had a 15% job approval rating and those are among the people who killed him. >> well, i mean, that's a damning comparison. i'm wondering when they have such low opinions of congress, they lump republicans in with that or are they now of a mindset that you keep saying everything is hunky-dory and we're tired of it because it's not hunky-dory. so at the very least we're open to change. >> owning thing the public dislikes more than republicans are democrats. make no mistake, this is not an endorsement of the gop. this is not an endorsement of the house. this is a rejection of the incumbents. it's a rejection of politics as usual, and the va, the segment you did before mine here is such a perfect epitome of what's wrong with washington that on memorial day weekend you are more focused on sports than you are about defending and respecting our american heroes. it's a disgrace, and, neil, it's just a disgrace. >> frank luntz, good seeing you again, my friend. thank you very, very much. >> thank you. >>> while nancy pelosi is talking about the law, the costs keep going up. to kate rog

violence spreading across tripoli an appears to be the worst since 2011 revolution that ousted moammar gadhafi. a retired general said the self declared libyan army will attack islamist fighters in the city of benghazi. 75 killed there on friday. >>> china is evacuating thousands of its citizens from vietnam after deadly riots broke out there over a chinese oil drilling. protesters are outraged because china sent an oil rig to drill in ocean waters both countries claim as their own. china's state-run media reports two chinese were killed and more than 100 injured last week in vietnam. five chinese ships are sailing to vietnam with help on the evacuations. >>> sunday newspapers in turkey all scream the same thing on their front pages. anger, disbelief and sadness. autobodies have been removed from a coal mine where an explosion and fire this week killed more than 300 miners. people are furious how the government responded to the emergency. getting physical with demonstrators and appearing incensive to victims' families. 25 people detained in connection with the disaster. three of them have been

ifill: libya's central government has struggled to assert control since long-time dictator muammar gadhafi was overthrown three years ago. iraq's ruling coalition is the big winner in last month's parliamentary elections. results released today show prime minister nouri al-maliki and his shiite supporters won 92 seats out of 328. al-maliki will need the support of other groups to build a new governing majority. back in this country, a mississippi man was sentenced today to 25 years in federal prison for sending letters laced with ricin to president obama. james everett dutschke pleaded guilty last week to mailing the letters to the president and to a mississippi senator and a judge. prosecutors said it was all a plot to frame another man. former "new york times" editor jill abramson spoke out today for the first time since being fired last week. she addressed graduates at wake forest university in north carolina, and said it hurt to lose a job she loved. but, she recalled her father saying when bad things happen, you must "show what you are made of." >> and now i'm talking to anyone who's

the single most powerful organization in the aftermath of the fall of saddam hussein, for example, or gadhafi or mubarak, or anybody else. and then things like fallujah happens. they have weapons, organization, structure, they have history. the people who really push for peaceful unification, what should we held north american -- north korea military, what a weight that's the aftermath of unification? how can we directed them to a peaceful course instead of obviously much, much worse course. >> thank you, jay. >> thank you. thank you for a good question. there must be many areas just to start, when we have reunification. reunification is not simple, that's what i believe. just as you mentioned, maybe the military unification, unification and the military side may be a last portion of the reunification. we may have some lessons learned in germany unification, but it depends upon what type of unification we may have to. it's decided by the type of reunification. it can be very peaceful. it can be not so peaceful way. so the military unification can be decided by the type of reunification. >> gr

it was widely expected that by now, three years after the fall of gadhafi that oil production would have recovered, even increased in libya. when you look at a chart of what's happened in the production of libya since the arab spring it has been plummeting. nearly 1.5 million rl bas of oil are missing from the market due to ongoing con flicks between militias and islamic jihadists. the violence rose dramatically about two weeks ago when haftar appeared on the scene with the support of what appeared to be left of the air force from libya, various militias coming together. we spoke with the general last night. we spoke to him through an nbc producer who speaks arabic. general haftar told me his mission is to eliminate the islamic fundamentalists from libya. that the libyan people do not believe in fundamentalism in religion. his viewpoint, which would sit very well with the u.s. government, plus his reported previous involvement with the cia in the mid-1980s in an attempt to overthrow gadhafi has many wondering if the cia is backing him now. he lived in virginia for nearly 20 years, awfull

one thing that all those three leaders that we just mentioned had in common saddam hussein moammar gadhafi and bashar al assad all three of them still to portray themselves as really standing up to american pressure american dominance and this may have been a reason for them getting in trouble with the united states in the first place but both hussein and gadhafi are now gone but the antenna merican sentiment that they exploded is still very much present and it is now be used by a different force religious extremists and i would have to ask you from a psychological perspective weren't those tyrants those. very brutal leaders were and they still a bit more predictable a bit more rational probably a bit more manageable than the wild force that came to replace them. sometimes indeed that is that is correct but i think it's important to make the following observation man is an enemy making species. we are really taught from childhood on who are our friends who are enemies and whom to trust and whom to fear and especially at times of economic and social dislocation in transition hate mongering

it to be absolutely sure that you know off what he would do even though you know let's face it on to gadhafi libya if least on social and economic terms was a pretty it vance country people had sure they didn't have political freedoms but they had good. standards of living they had education they had medicine they had rule of law all those values that they they would now long for and that leads me to ask you whether this current. western establishment really under appreciates the value of status quo you're describing the life was a very small number of elite i mean when i was in libya and you know again in benghazi i traveled all across the country very few people i mean there are two or three streets only in tripoli that have the lifestyle that you described to periphery was quite different and the same in iraq i mean baghdad was an amazing city even under sanctions a beauty but when you travel to the government's lack of electricity water all those challenges existed because saddam focused on the capital and not on the governor absolutely but unfortunately this situation now seems to be st

point i would like to make is that you just sad that the you know you were absolutely certain that gadhafi would. turned in gaza into a bloodbath and i find this. interesting to hear because just a couple of minutes ago you said that there is no way ofa learning whether the iraqi society could have dislodged saddam hussein on its own and he had to use it to be absolutely sure that you know off what he would do even though you know let's face it on to gadhafi libya if least on social and economic terms was a pretty advanced country people had sure they didn't have political freedoms but they had good. standards of living they had education they had medicine they had rule of law all those values that they would now long for and that leads me to ask you whether this current. western establishment that really appreciates the value of status quo you're describing the life of a very small number of elite i mean when i was in the you know again in benghazi i traveled all across the country very few people i mean there are two or three streets only in tripoli that have the lifestyle that you descr

that may encounter boko haram militants armed with rocket propelled grenades after the fall of moammar gadhafi. >> boko haram may have gotten hold of missiles, including sa7 missiles. there's significant concern about that. not absolute proof that they have obtained these but a significant concern. >> reporter: now a claim from amnesty international that security forces were aware of a planned attack on the school four hours before it happened but failed to deploy enough troops. nigerian security forces knew about boko haram's impending raid but failed to take the immediate action needed to stop it, the group said. the nigerian government is denying that it had any advanced knowledge about the impending attack on the school. the u.s. is talking to the nigerians behind the scenes about sharing satellite imagery and electronic intercepts but with every day that goes by, these girls are in more jeopardy. >> they certainly are. let's dig deeper. the republican congressman mike rogers of michigan is still with us. also joining us, general carter ham, the u.s. former commander of the africa command

one general dating back to gadhafi's time gathering support against the islamist militias, as he calls them. all of this leading to violence in benghazi and across tripoli. what is the pentagon goidoing? this time, just across the mediterranean in italy, troops and fire power assembled, ready to go if the order comes. about 250 marines. eight have-22 aircraft standing by. they are on a two-how long string. what does that mean? if the order comes from the state department to evacuate item bass si, they'll be in the air on the way to libya within two hours. they'll go to tripoli and evacuate some 200 americans still there working at the embassy. an additional military contingent that is station there had. different from what we saw in benghazi when there was no available military force nearby close enough to do anything. the administration will not have a second round of that. these marines will be ready to go if and when the order comes. >> why not just bring them out, the 200 americans, right now? why wait? you know the situation is only going to get worse. >> officials say this is a q

and a part from moammar gadhafi seemed the worst of the lot. but the establishment of new democratic regimes has largely failed to materialize. one possible exception is tunisia. what happened? there were different factions in different countries that contributed and no doubt will explore today those differences in our discussion. but here i would like to focus on egypt which seems to me the most crucial or important case for several reasons and it also happens to be, was larger the focus of the article in the journal and this volume. first it's the largest arab country and was the model. it was the country in which the greatest hopes were invested. it did have a genuinely democratic revolution in the sense that it held more or less, and may be inclined to forget this, more or less free elections, multiple free elections which produced a new regime. the islamist regime of the muslim brotherhood supported by other islamist parties. as we all know that regime has failed and is in the process of being replaced by a new regime whose character is st

>> i believe gadhafi was keeping a lid on a lot of things brewing. he was probably not a direct security threat the way he was in the 1980's. it depends on how we define security. many of the ills that spilled over from libya in the current from of libya it were because of his rule, how we kept things clamped down and didn't permit civil society, marginalize the east. the seeds of extremism were sown during his regime. in that sense, it was a security threat, i think we know libyans were fighting in iraq and afghanistan. >> what do you think we should be doing? what steps should be taken to improve the situation in libya? >> under the circumstances, the u.s. is doing quite a lot with other partners in europe and elsewhere. the u.s. is committed to train over 19,000 new libya soldiers as part of the general purpose force. this proposal is underway. we are engaged with the civil society. much of the problem is the other side. much of the delay we cannot really invert -- interface with them. the libyan government has not agreed to provide payment or the

says the chaos in the country is a direct result of the foreign meddling which helps topple colonel gadhafi it's hard to put the genie back in the bottle the intervention unleashed forces. put there the you know the country is awash in weapons and all these militias have been empowered by having these weapons many of them are not going to be you know they're going to be reluctant to to be mobilized it's already the case that the central government doesn't control the country it's already the case that there are rival centers of military power the other question i think that people should be asking is you know what does this say about the u.s. military western military in your bed. in libya three years later there's no government that controls the country three years later there is there is chaos and portugal's managed to make it through three years of being in a stared down it's become the second e.u. nation state after island to reach the end of its international bailout conditions but the portuguese people aren't quite yet in the mood for celebration and many are much poorer on them befor

gadhafi was keeping a lid on a lot of things brewing. he was probably not a direct security threat the way he was in the 1980's. it depends on how we define security. many of the ills that spilled in the current from of libya it were because of his rule, how we kept things quiet down and civil society, marginalize the east. the seeds of extremism were sown during his regime. in that sense, it was a security threat, i think it we know libyans were fighting in iraq and afghanistan. >> what do you think we should be doing? taken tos should be mprove the situation in libya? class under the circumstances, the u.s. is doing quite a lot with other partners in europe and elsewhere. the u.s. is committed to train over 19,000 new libya soldiers as part of the general purpose force. this proposal is underway. with the civil society. much of the problem is the other side. much of the delay we cannot really invert -- interface with them. they have not agreed to provide payment or the general purchase force, which is why we are unable to move forward

and then when the revolution against gadhafi, he joined. fro are from the army, others from different tribes in the region. >> how big a problem does this represent to the government? >> clearly we're having problems. that was a report from tripoli. >> later this week, pope francis will visit the holy land. he will make stops in israel, the west bank, jerusalem and jordan. >> the pope will celebrate the 50th anniversary was historic visit by pope paul vi. >> it was the first time a pope had done international travel. it opened up the first beginnings of an era in which the papacy would reach out to the world. >> on that visit, the embrace between the pope and the spiritual leader of the world's greek either dock christians ended the 900 year split between the two he churches. other tensions in the region still simmered. >> he understood that there was a lot of tension between the palestinian cause and the news at that point still relatively new israel nation. it's before the 1967 war, but after the 1948 war between the two declining conflic

fidel castro, saddam hussein, moammar gadhafi. her most historic moment came in 1977, when she convinced egyptian president anwar sadat and israeli prime minister, menachem begin to do their first ever joint interview. >> there might be a ray of light. there might be some concession. there might be a somewhat different position down the road? >> you are always like this, barbara. >> reporter: barbara interviewed hollywood legend katherine hepburn many times. but the next moment was buzzed about and misinterpreted many times for years to come. >> what kind of tree are you? if you think you're a tree -- >> reporter: rewind the interview a few seconds and you will see it was hepburn who brought up being a tree. barbara was just following up. >> i've become a sort of, you know, thing. >> what? >> i don't know what. a tree or something. yes. >> reporter: this famous interview with boxer, mike tyson, and his then-wife, robin givens, makes our list because tyson himself was surprised when givens revealed this. >> does he hit you? >> he s

gadhafi, castro, just to name a few. in 2000, you smashed the glass ceiling when you renewed your contract with abc news for $12 million. but it was what you did in 1997 that served as an example of your efforts to have women front and center. you created "the view," a space that allowed five women to talk about politics and family and careers. so wildly successful that it is fast approaching the 20-year mark. you made it to go to be fearless in a male-dominated industry. you made it cool to be boss and to be authentically yourself. while you are not about to go off into the sunset, you are about to take a well-deserved rest. but before you go, as a woman who's benefited from the doors you opened, thank you. sincerely, melissa. are those made with all-beef, karen? yeah, they're hebrew national. but unlike yours, they're also kosher. kosher? yeah, they're really choosy about what goes in. so, only certain cuts of kosher beef meet their strict standards and then they pick the best from that. oh man! what'd we do? they're a

american ambassador debbie jones speaking about the growing violence in libya since the fall of moammar gadhafi live coverage begins at 12:30 eastern. >> what i'm trying to say is that fraud kills. okay? and it's nonpartisan, fraud, and and we got to do something about it. we don't have unlimited budgets, and money that gets waisted on a building that is never going to be used is money that could have helped some other afghan, could help some people here in the united states, and you keep seeing this again and again and again. i'm very proud to work for this administration. i mean -- i think it's important that people realize i was appointed by the president, and inspector generals are independent. and -- but it's important that the people see that the government does care, and there are lot of people -- people in aid and state and pentagon, who care about wasting money. >> john sopko how american taxpayer dollars are spent on reconstruction in afghanistan sunday night at 8:00 on c-span's c & a. >> an independent audit has found that medicare may be overpaying hospitals and estimated $5 billion

we lost four americans that were in libya that was a rat hole after muammar gadhafi was out. so this is an embarrassment for the white house. but how do they reclaim the narrative so jay carney doesn't look like just a big liar in trying to remind everybody from that lecture the history of the time, which is okay to do, but how do they look like they're not lying about what was done? >> you know, if there are any other e-mails, just put them out. just put everything out. because in the end, this is a scandal without a center. you know, what's at the center of this is -- was the real -- if there's a scandal, it is a state department security preparations prepositions of forces, the assessment before the attack as to what sort of danger the ambassador and the cia facility might have been in in benghazi. that's what went wrong there. and, you know, to expect there to have been a clear narrative of exactly what the motivations were of the miscreants who did this, a couple of days after the attack is ridiculous. it's absurd. nothing ever happens like that. so if the criticism is t