-- holdovers who stayed to the johnson a administration. mcnamara and others who served under kennedy, very few of them stayed until the end and that included mcnamara, who left. dean rask with someone who was a very capable figure, a southerner, like johnson. and he had a very close relationship with johnson and rusk who became the national security advisor in 1968. meant that rusk on the one hand it certainly committed to the vietnam war, wanted to help johnson in that effort. but also was increasingly conscious that things weren't working out very well there. that didn't diminish his support for the war, but it did mean that he himself again to look for other issues and he accomplished quite a bit and policies with western europe because elizabeth mentioned charles de gaulle and the president of france pose a direct challenge to the president of united states and that required a great deal of finesse and diplomacy to try to mend those breaches and to try and keep nato from falling apart. dean rusk was one of the major figures in trying t

kennedy: my worry is there are people in the administration who say, we have got guns. why don't we go there with our guns. kennedy: that's not world peace. >> when i was sent in iraq in 2004 there will be were not enough of us. i was in favor of operation more dudes. my dad occupied japan with a whole bunch of dudes. we didn't do that in iraq and because of that we lost a lot of our dudes. the idea of occupying iran four years from now, two years from now, that's a nightmare and i don't think we are ready for it. kennedy: one nice thing about a sophisticated population, they realize people make fun of the president. but when peace is the goal and economic freedom is the goal, you tend to make better decisions. will he do what's right with regards to iran in this deal? >> just let the sanctions have their effect. just give it a year, give it two years. do what obama wasn't willing to do. turn the screws. let the pressure build up on the inside. it may not be pretty to us. but the end result is it will be a better country. kennedy: bryan suits, thank you so much, and tha

who was he and what influence did he have on the administration? >> dean rusk had started out as secretary of state under president kennedy. he was one of the few holdovers who stayed throughout the johnson administration. there were others, secretary of defense mcnamara and others who served under kennedy, but very few of them stayed until the end and that included mcnamara who left. dean rusk was someone who was a very capable figure, southerner like johnson, and he had a very close relationship with johnson and also with walt rostow, who became johnson's national security adviser during this time in 1968. that meant that rusk on the one hand was certainly committed to the vietnam war, wanted to help johnson in that effort, but was also increasingly conscious, i think, that things weren't working out very well there. that didn't diminish his support for the war but it did mean that he himself began to look for other issues and he accomplished quite a bit, for example, in policy toward western europe, which as elizabeth mentioned, de gaulle, the p

>> he was under president kennedy and one of the few holdovers who stayed throughout the johnson administration. there were others, secretary of defense mcnamair and others who served under president kennedy. very few of them stayed until the end, including mcnamara, who left. dean rusk was a capable figure, southerner like johnson, and he had a very close relationship with johnson and also with rod, national security adviser during this time in 1968. and that meant that rusk, on one hand, was certainly committed to the vietnam war, wanted to help johnson in that effort and was also increasingly conscious that things weren't working out very well. that didn't diminish his support for the war but it did mean that he, himself, began to look for other issues. and he accomplished quite a bit, for example, in policy toward western europe, which, as elizabeth mentioned, the president of france imposed a direct challenge to the united states. and that required a great deal of finess and diplomacy to try to mend those breaches and keep nato from falling apart. dean rusk was one of the major figures in

kennedy: should president trump go ahead and wipe out the security clearances much other obama administration officials? and why stop there? joining us, jim jordan. welcome back to the show. why do so many people have these clearances? >> they shouldn't. brennan leaked the dossier to harry reid. he lost his clearance. clapper lied under oath. susan rice lied five times, and you can go count list. mccomey fired, gates fired, all but strzok have been fired. i don't even know why it's a debate. why do they have it in the first place if they have left government. take their clearances away from them. that makes sense. kennedy: at the top of the show i was talking to shannon bream about a lawsuit brennan might bring. she said at some point it might be defamation. yawn brennan said the president was treasonous. the comments were questionable that were delivered standing next to vladimir putin. to a lot of people they were offensive. but that am not treason. one of the penalties for treason is death. is john brennan calling for the president's demise? >> john brennan is saying crazy things. even jam

here came the second vacancy into the trump administration one by the retirement of justice kennedy. it was obviously asked what standard would you use for the documentary evidence of the person many of us assumed it would be the same standard push by the senator of alabama senator leahy, democrat. we were wrong. instead they said we were going to have a new rule when it comes to republican nominees. that new rule said that we will not ask for documentation for the 35 months when he served in the white house is the closest advisor to the president of the united states. there is a myriad of issues considered by the president that time. brett kavanaugh, then assistant to the president was involved in these decisions. we won't know what he saturda s. they decided for the documents he might consider asking, they would have a final filter. the final filter is a man named burke who has served as a council and attorney for not only president bush and also in the past for steve bannon, does that name ring a bell? steve bannon a breitbart news? he served as his counsel and was assistant to br

i remember john kennedy cutting off the white house subscription to the new york times. >>chris: it was the herald tribune but close enough. >> i think this adversarial relationship is typical. >>chris: we learned north korea continues to produce plutonium. continues to build new missiles. there are reports that north korea is violating the sanctions by ship to ship transfers. china and russia are stepping up their efforts to ease around the sanctions. at what point does the trump administration say that kim is playing us. there he isn't serious about denuclearization and basically call him on this? >> that point may well, as i've said to you and others before. there's nobody in this administration starry eyed about the prospects of north korea the nuclear rising. i think the president is giving kim jong-un a master class in how to hold the door open for somebody. if the north koreans can't >> we seem to be starting an escalated trade war with china. we've imposed or scheduled tariffs on $50 billion of chinese goods. they retaliated.now we are talking about 25 percent on

but senator john kennedy, a republican from louisiana had this to say about john brennan. >> he's been totally political. i think i called him a butt-head and i meant it. i think he's given the national intelligence community a bad name. >> so as you can hear, there is a lot of reaction from republicans who say that they're okay with this move. i would expect most republicans are going to be standing with the president, poppy. >> you just leave it to john kennedy for the colorful language of the day. lauren fox, let us know what else you're hearing. let's discuss with karoun demirjian. ladi ladies, to you first. when you look at what the president told the "wall street journal" in this impromptu 20 minute oval office interview last night about why brennan's security clearance was revoked "i call it the rigged witch-hunt, it's a sham. these people led it so something has to be done." why does he do stuff like this? >> what you have here as you also had in the situation with the firing of james comey is his aides around him trying to craft what would be a defensible rationale for somethi

state under the administrative procedure act. froml pull one quote professor michael livermore. deadlock,ressional this has become the primary vehicle for progress over the last several decades. replacing kennedy with kavanaugh will make this more difficult. holding and fretless risk. i agree with that. started,ack to where i congress is not legislating. agencies are using still statutes that have not been updated in decades. to make major decisions that affect our everyday lives and justice kavanaugh will not give that a free pass. if the statute doesn't allow the regulars -- the agency to regulate, he will not let them regulate. in that sense, i do think some bythese concerns raised administrative law and environmental law professors -- there is some foundation to them. one of us wouldn't those as concerned though. some of us would think that congress should legislate and if there is an issue of major political or economic significance, congress should take the lead and sate yes, here are our instructions for how you deal with

mcmillan's bias against kennedy was deepened by the out going eisenhower administration, which actually through shade on the incoming president. obstinate, sensitive, ruthless, and highly fixed. this was the description that eisenhower's envoy used to describe kennedy in a private meeting with mcmillan just after the november election. i suppose the reference to sex would make this a steel dossier in reverse. americans talking about the sexual appetite of a president-elect to brits. [laughter] >> though, not necessarily faded ted to be friends, of course both leaders, one incoming and one prime minister, both leaders understood that to some extent they had to get along. mcmillan, in particular had a dream for a role that the united states could play an something he called the grand design. he desperately wanted great britain to be part of that then called european economic community, common market. now we call it the eu. how things have changed. in order to do that he needed france, which exercised a veto. i should say not france. i should say charles de gaulle. to accept britain's invo

state under the administrative procedure act. i will pull one quote from professor michael livermore. he said, given congressional gridlock, this has become the primary vehicle for progress over the last several decades. replacing kennedy with kavanaugh will make this more difficult, halting and fraught with risk. i agree with that. getting back to where i started, congress is not legislating. agencies are using stale statutes that have not been updated in decades to make major decisions that affect our everyday lives, and justice kavanaugh will not give that a free pass. if the statute doesn't allow the agency to regulate, he will not say congress you have to pass this legislation. in that sense, i do think some of these concerns raised by administrative law and environmental law professors -- there is some foundation to them. some of us wouldn't those as concerns though. some of us would think that congress should legislate, if there is an issue of major political or economic significance, congress should take the lead and say

senator kennedy said he didn't think it was the government's role to do this. senator burr said the same thing. this was an issue with the first amendment. there's big high stakes in this, as the president talks about allegations of censorship. from the tech companies, they're concerned it is misperception in the eyes of the users. >> there is some concern on capitol hill, anna, that google and facebook has a lot of power. they're powerful companies. not a lot of regulation. there is concern. senator chris coons laid this out. he is a democrat, of course. he talked about this balancing act that i think some on the hill are trying to deal with. >> this is a question that we can and should be working on in a bipartisan way in the senate. does google have too much power? is google protecting privacy of the average american? what is it doing with the vast reams of data it harvests from us day in and day out? i don't think we should be racing to regulate just based on the president's subjective experience one morning. >> anna? >> yeah, i think what you see here is t

of kennedy and johnson. so i had the good luck to meet many women and men, of course that were in politics and chase wood house was a congresswoman from connecticut. and she was quite special and of course i did get to know her and ella grasso, as you know, was the first woman elected in her own right and i don't think she ever gets enough credit for that and she was -- of course i knew her very well. >> and what in particular drew you to those women that you mentioned? >> it wasn't i was particularly drawn to the women. living with the state chairman, my father, i met all sorts of politicians, adlai stevenson stayed at our home for a week with his family. john kennedy took a nap at our home. i lived a political life as a child so i had a lot of role models but i didn't think of it then. i just thought it was a great life to meet these famous people and i never thought it would be me and not famous but be in a role my father always said -- he took us everywhere, to the picnics, everything. he always said if

he worked with the johnson administration to finish out the work that he had started with president kennedy, the author of more than 40 books including such award-winning studies as the civil war :america becomes one nation. a wonderful book about general ap hill, soldiers blue and gray. then of course, stonewall jackson, the man, soldier, and the legend. that particular book 18 individual awards. he has been hailed as the father of virginia state's song, the anthem how are great virginia. with moving lyrics to the two -- dune of shenandoah which is near and dear to us, it was adopted as the state song in 2015. and now solidly in his 80s, he has not slow down much at all. his recent books include the untold civil war, that he worked on with national geographic. after the civil war with national geographic and civil war echoes. he is currently working on an encyclopedic dictionary of robert e lee. i am humbled that this man even knows my name. i am proud that he is here today . i would like to introduce to you our dear friend, doctor robertson. [ applause ] >> thank you kevin. good morning,

he worked with the johnson administration to finish out the work he started with president kennedy. he is the author of more than 40 books. he wrote stonewall jackson, the man, the soldier, the legend. awards.k won eight he has been hailed as the father of virginia state song, the virginia." great it was adopted as the state song in 2015. slowed80's, he has not down at all. his recent books include "the untold civil war." "after the civil war." voiceswar echoes and from virginia." he is currently working on an encyclopedic dictionary of robert e. lee. i am humbled this man even knows my name. he is here today. i would like to introduce to you dr. budd robinson -- dr. budd robertson. [applause] dr. robertson: thank you, keven. good morning, everyone. for the first time in my 60 year career, i must say, i take no pleasure in the talk i am about to give. it is time the other side be monument.his as the keynote speaker for your conference, plus the fact i am the eldest member of the cast by a number of years, i will drift far field to discuss the national issues of which civil war monum

if if you look how the administration is running. forfeiture on black communities back on the books. also penalizing marijuana crimes back on the books. >> kennedy: in certain states and certain counties. >> dan: time-out. first time hosting the five and hosting the segment you are killing me with this piece. i love you guys. this is my first time. let me gte to the piece. >> greg: the reason why we are talking about this, why? because the nfl season started. >> dan: yes. >> greg: but that's -- why didn't they do it in the offseason, too? >> dan: they did. >> greg: all the players did? all the players were kneeling? no, you know what i mean. >> dana: actually, i don't understand what you mean. >> greg: what i'm saying is, continue the protest. >> richard: they did. in front of the nfl headquarters like every day. >> dana: that he didn't go to the white house. >> dan: we definitely have to go now. the 20 second. buzz irwas up. >> greg: wait, i have another point. >> dan: fan mail friday is up next. ♪ ♪ i don't keep track of regret

he was asked by president johnson to investigate the kennedy assassination. because he was willing to listen to all sides, he became well liked among republicans. and this was especially important, because it ties in with his ambition. by ford's third term as a congressman, he had decided he wanted to become speaker of the house. and he put enormous amount of time and effort into achieving that goal. he ended up becoming involved with a group of younger members of congress who he referred to as the young turks. these were younger individuals who included melvin layerd, charles goodell, that name may ring a bell, by the way, his son, roger goodell, is the commissioner of the nfl, and a man by the name of donald rumsfeld. these younger lawmakers believed that the leadership in the house of representatives was old, out of touch and too willing to accept the idea of the republicans in the house remaining the bminority. they wanted younger leadership, vibrant energetic leadership to help the republicans achieve a majority in the house. and, of course, for ford to

largely critical of the eisenhower administration, including unfounded allegations of a missile gap. so it was not, you know, i wouldn't say a very warm relationship between kennedy and eisenhower, and that continued under johnson. it was always going to be consultations, when important issues came up, including about the -- but eisenhower remained a more revered figure in american society, and not so much as an influential medical figure. >> this makes reference to czechoslovakia have just returned from the czech republic. >> i have. i was there a year and a half ago and i found myself -- i kept wanting to say to go slovakia which is no longer, and that is part of what is happening in this period of time, with a number of countries is just multiplying, so i was in the czech republic recently. >> out soviet troops -- how were soviet troops -- >> -- was a terrible thing, since you have been hungry in 1956, so you know, again, people kind of hunkered down and survived. and that's, you know, that was the case in eastern europe, up there 1989. >> but there was a big difference, in 1956,

he worked with the johnson administration to finish out the work he started with president kennedy. he's the author of more than 40 books including award winning studies as civil war. america becomes one nation. the wonderful book, soldiers blue and grey and stone wall jackson. a man, the soldier the legend. that particular book won eight individual awards. he has been hailed as the father of virginia state's song, the n anthem for virginia. it was adopted a as the state song in 2015 and now solidly in his 80s, he has not slowed down much as all. after the civil war, also with national geographic and effecho and voices from virginia 1959 to 1891. he's currently work on a dictionary of robert e. lee. i'm humbled that this man even knows my name and i'm proud that he's here today. i'd like to introduce to you our dear friend dr. bud robertson. [ applause ] >> good morning, everyone. for the first time in my 60-year career, i must say that i take no pleasure in the talk i'm about to give. yet it is time that the other side be be heard in this monument. plus the fact that i'm the eldest

a 2002 meeting in the white house of which judge kavanaugh advised whether his former boss justice kennedy was except a legal argument about american citizens saccess to counsel. these allegations have no merit and here's why. offering advice on the potential success of a legal position digested by others meaning others in the white house staff kateri does not show involvement in developing detention and interrogation policies. multiple sources have confirmed that judge kavanaugh was not involved in developing detention and interrogation policies. moreover these allegations were ready to be referred to the department of justice which concluded that they did not even warrant opening an investigation. i will further point out that this 2002 meeting occurred while judge kavanaugh was in the white house counsel office and, as i have explained, the entires senate or at least the entire judiciary pretty will have access to judge kavanaugh's white house counsel records. in short i am proud to preside over what will be the most cotransparent preparation proces in history. as they have said publicl

he was asked by president johnson to join the commission to investigate the kennedy assassination. he became well-liked among republicans. this was especially important because it ties in with his ambition. by fort's third term as a congressman, he had decided he wanted to become speaker of the house. and he put in the -- put an enormous amount of time into achieving the goal. he became involved with a group of younger members of congress that became referred to as the young turks. he became friends with donald rumsfeld. these younger lawmakers believed that the leadership in the house of representatives was old, out of touch, and too willing to accept the idea of republicans in the house remaining the minority. they wanted younger leadership. vibrant, energetic leadership that would help the republicans achieve the majority in the house. of course, for ford to become speaker. with their support, ford becomes speaker of the house- minority leader, excuse me. just one step of -- step away from becoming speaker. it was a dream he would not achieve. before i get into that, what did al

he was asked by president johnson to join the warren commission to investigate the kennedy assassination. because he was willing to listen to all sides he became well liked among republicans. and this was especially important because the ties him with his ambition. by ford's third term as a congressman he had decided he wanted to become speaker of the house. and he put enormous amount of time and effort into that goal. the group included laird charles go goodell and rumsford. what they wanted was younger leadership, vibrant,n energetic leadership and of course for ford to become speaker. and indeed with their support in 1965 ford becomes speaker of the house -- minority leader, excuse me. putting him only one step away from becoming speaker, a dream he would not achieve. before i get into all that what did all this hard work and ambitiousness mean for ford his and family? by 1957 betty and gerald ford had four children. three sons, jack, michael and steve and a daughter susan. but because of his ambitiousness ford was gone quite a bit. he was an absent husband and an absent father. his a

concentrates on the last 3 days of being president of the united states and the transition over to kennedy and the words of advice that he had to the country which he gave 3 days before the changeover so that it wouldn't interview -- interfere with the next administration and there's just a lot of things in there that are explanations of how he liked to work, how he liked the speeches written, how he rewrote speeches, a lot of speech writers but sometimes they don't make the speech simple enough for people to understand it and sometimes they don't make it sticky enough that people will remember it and he had -- he an act for doing that, he worked quietly behind the scenes, he didn't allow any of his -- any of his cabinet meetings to be filmed or recorded because he didn't want anybody playing for history, he we wanted to play for the moment and get the job done. it's just a great book on leadership. it was so inspiring that the next one that i read was 3 days in moscow by bret baier also and that's about the relationship between reagan and gorvasha and i read that while the president was t

there've been other administrations that have been highly critical of the press as well. i remember john kennedy cutting off the white house prescription to "the new york times." >> chris: it was the herald tribune. >> john: i was much younger, what can i say? i think this kind of adversarial relationship is difficult. >> chris: north korea, this week we learned that north korea continues to produce plutonium, continues to build new missiles. there are reports that north korea is violating the sanctions by ship to ship transfers. they've done it, it's increasing. that china and russia are stepping up their efforts to ease around the sanctions. at what point does the trump administration say that kim is playing us, that he isn't serious about denuclearization and basically call him on this? >> john: that point may well come. as i've said to you and others before, there's nobody in his administration starry eyed about the prospects of north korea actually denuclearizing but i think what's going on now is that the president is giving kim jong un on a master class and how to

he was consistent be they democratic or republican administrations in his positions. >> yeah. certainly a kplefrm mcomplex ma. jonathan, when teddy kennedy died nine years to the day before mccain, senator mccain was seen as the remaining towering figure in the senate. cast a very large shadow over the conduct and the mannerisms and the decorum of the senate. is there anyone who is capable of filling those shoes now that senator mccain has passed? >> no one will ever be capable of filling senator mccain's shoes. a unique individual with a unique story line. you know, i think there are those like jeff flake who was interviewed earlier, you know, who is retiring but has decided to take on a role similar to mccain in terms of trying to -- trying to talk about and conduct themselves and demonstrate certain civility that is absent in our politics right now. the one word that keeps coming back in all of the statement that's are made about him is honor. this is a man who conducted himself with honor from the time he was a prisoner of war and refused early release, his captors were wi

kennedy: joining me now, national review's own year editor jonah goldberg. a lot of people when they look back at the obama administration, they say this deal was the best we could hope for. do you believe that? >> no. i thought it was a terrible deal. it was a deal to guarantee iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon within 10 years and guarantee it will have one after 10 years which didn't seem like a great deal to me. by giving them all of this money, the pallets of cash. they would repair their economy and instead they use it to fund hamas, hes bow a, go to -- hezbollah and it backfired on its own terms and it wasn't going to guarantee they wouldn't get a nuclear weapon which i thought was the point. kennedy: some people say it doesn't matter what you do with sanctions, they don't work. here you have some of the sanctions being lifted and cash being sent over in exchange for hostages. as you are proving right now. there is more civil unrest than has been since the green revolution. i don't know how placing the sanctions back on that hot pot creates the ideal

it included the kennedy center. some years ago she sat down with mark satisegraves and told him loved coming here toplay. >> i went to the casino royal with sometimes there was -- it'f arent administration and it's wonderful. >> i like to run on thismodel. she has a lot of great memories here in d.c. you canee her portrait until august 22nd. it will hang in the first level in the in memorium space. live here, i'm justin finch, news 4. >> it is 6:49 now. is morning president trump dealing with a fallout released by omarosa manigault newman. the job would have paid00 $1 a month. omarosa sd trump was using the job to pay her hush money. >> he made it very clear that if i joined this campaign, that i would have to be quiet. i wouldn't be allowed to talk to i wouldn't be able to say anything against donald trump. i saw this as an attempt b to my silence. >> lara trump responded saying she feels personally betrayed. >>> president tru is continuing to cast hees thatin udes former cia raid. brennan strongly urge the preside

anyway, he was very close to kennedy. had bobby not died, it was a good chance bill would have been in his administration. of the couple little stories i have managed to have, i was all of 27, i was in hannibal with my then two children, i said what are you doing. he said i am in manchester, i am going to have dinner with paul newman tonight. i said excuse me? i got a babysitter and i went down there. paul newman was an exceptional person. he would not sign autographs. he said i am not here for paul newman, i am here for dean mccarthy. we went ice skating in berlin new hampshire. he was fabulous, and he knew the issues. we also had tony randall. i took tony randall to a coffee in keene, he cannot answer any of the questions, he was always signing his own autograph. i went home and i said david, we have got to get to the campaign, we have got to pull him. we pulled him, told him his schedule was over, and brought paul newman back in. it was just the difference in approaches that newman was so committed being against the wa

judge kavanaugh discussed whether the supreme court would uphold the bush administration decision to deny lawyers certain enemy combatants. judge kavanaugh advised his former boss, justice kennedy, would likely reject the argument that the white house is putting forward. now, this conversation, i try to look at it every way i can. i was a trial lawyer. i took dpogz. i argued cases. i'm trying to reconcile it with judge kavanaugh's sworn testimony, testimony under oath. you can't reconcile it. it makes it all the more critical that we review his complete white house record to find out what he really did. and the only record that i see from judge kavanaugh's time as staff secretary are a handful of e-mails previously released to an unrelated foia request. one happens to show very clearly that judge kavanaugh was looped in. notwithstanding whatever he said, he was looped in on the bush white house efforts to message the famous torture memos. that is of one million records that exist on judge kavanaugh, we have this one drop in the bucket. that one drop in the bucket, they are discussing

there have been other administrations that have been highly critical of the press as well. you can go back, i remember john kennel kennedy cutting off the white house scription -- >> it was "the harold tribune." but close. >> i was much younger then. what can i say? this adversary relationship is typical. >> is it typical? >> reporter: no. certainly not. i think what would be typical is if a white house believes that a story, a particular story in the media is incorrect, they will say, what is wrong. they don't say you're an enemy of the people. that's a different level. this is a deflection. you lash out and redirect when you are backed into a corn per. what's scary to me, is this has a lasting effect. next year, and the year after that, there are lingering effects to telling huge swaths of the american people that you cannot trust the media at all, and i think it's incredibly dangerous to democracy, and i don't think we have seen this play out. >> yeah. i have been speaking with high school students interested in journalism over the last month, and the response has been t

. >> bret: this is delayed until august 23rd to allow this administration to appeal it, likely will, and then we go onto the next court battle. >> i find it interesting because justice kennedy's resignation took effect just a couple of days ago, july 31st. now we don't have nine people on the supreme court and we were in for quite some time. it will be a tie, 4-4, the supreme court if it comes up. that means that this judge's ruling would stay in place. in other words, the supreme court has ruled it out of the action, out of the game, if that is where president trump was hoping to get his way. >> bret: president trump at this rally talking about immigration, specifically about border security. >> and i understand it. i'm a little torn myself. i would personally prefer before, but it's whether before or after, we are either getting it or we are closing down government. we need border security! we need border to sit security! >> bret: talking about a government shutdown either before the midterms are after. the bottom line, so massive deal including daca and border security, doesn't lo

justice kennedy, and the question was obviously asked what standard will you use for asking for the documentary evidence of the person's background and public service? many of us assumed it would have been the same standard that was pushed by senator sessions, republican of alabama, and senator leahy, democrat of vermont. we were wrong. instead, what the republicans said is we're going to have a new rule when it comes to republican nominees from the trump administration in the case of judge brett kavanaugh, and that new rule said that we will not ask for documentation for the 35 months when he served in the white house as the closest advisor to the president of the united states. i can tell you, there were a myriad of issues that were considered by the president in that period of time, and brett kavanaugh, then-assistant to the president, was involved in these decisions. we won't know what he said or did because the republicans have refused to ask for the documentary evidence of his time there. but there is more to the story. they decided that for those documents which they might co

kennedy: what is the biggest bombshell so far? >> that was not the word i was going to use. i would say the biggest bombshell is this is why when the trump administration -- this is why you have a real transition. this is why you take time and are careful about doing these things and why these positions matter and why the white house which once upon a time had steve bannon and mike flynn and scaramucci and corey lewandowski who populated the administration hat washed out. there is a learning curve for every president. for this president it was steep. you can't have somebody like omarosa work for you in the white house. somebody who is a reality show villain is not going to exhibit the devotion to the president and the people necessary for the job. kennedy: she knew all along she would get fired. it ended badly in the clinton white house. and she newt on the way she was going to make any money was to write a juicy book. she took a syringe and juiced up the whole thing by recording as many conversations as she should knowing this would culminate and eclipse the news cycle for