on that list, hunter biden and one of his partners at burisma, nelly ohr. rob spannoh is here to react, the whistleblower, in the intelligence community. they are prepared to go back on the offense. >> thank you for having me. happy saturday. i'm excited to see these witnesses they placed on the list, finally we have an opportunity to get to the bottom of what is going on and round out some of the evidence, a very 1-sided sham of a process. let's hope chairman schiff will about these witnesses to testify. >> you let off what my next question is going to be, chairmanship. behind closed doors with unclassified material, could have been done in public. what makes you believe this list should make him change his tune at all? >> i have to be honest i'm not optimistic it will make him change his tune after we vote on a resolution, no last week which comported to create a new transparent and open process. as i fly home from the border there were a number of depositions taking place this week that were closed. and from numbers of the hearing a few weeks ago that ch

>> i am not aware of nellie ohr or who he provided the information to, but i am aware as a journalist, he has provided information. >> and well, he was in the parliament at the time in the 2016 campaign. he provided widely known as the black ledger and have you heard of the black ledger? >> i have. >> and the black ledger, is that seen as credible information? >> yes. >> the black ledger is credible? >> yes. >> bob mueller did not find it credible for you the dispute what bob mueller's findings were and they did not use it in the prosecution or the report? >> i am not aware that bob mueller did not find it credible, because it was evidence in other proceedings and it was credible in those proceedings, but i am not aware of it now. >> so the motivation for leschenko as reported was to go after a trump campaign official, and undermine trump's candidacy and are you aware of that? >> if you mean by the release of the black ledger, i think that leschenko's motivation was the same as he has expressed to expose corruption in ukraine. >> but he has said that his motivation was to partly under

nellie ohr from fusion gps who helped to create the ridiculous steele dossier. i would like to remind us what i said yesterday, the american people expect a lot in politics. they understand the tussle, the fight, the debate. but they also expect basic fairness. and these proceedings have been anything but fair. the senate has an opportunity to fix that. i am confident they will and i look forward to them completing the job that we could have done here. and with that i will yield back. >> mr. quigley. >> thank you, mr. chairman, thank you both for being here. dr. hill, when we last left july 10th, i believe ambassador bolton said to you, you go and tell eisenberg that i am not part of whatever drug deal sondland and mulvaney are cooking up on this and you go tell him what you heard and what i have said. is that correct, right? >> that's correct, yes. >> john eisenberg is the chief lawyer for the national security council, correct? >> he is, yes. >> you went to see him. >> i did go to see him. >> what did you say to him that day. >> i basically gave him the same s

. >> do you know nellie ohr? mr. holmes: no. >> first ohr? mr. holmes: no. >> glen simpson? mr. holmes: no. >> thank you. same questions, dr. hill. alexandra chalupa? dr. hill: no. >> first ohr? dr. hill: only as a national intelligence officer, where he attended some meetings i presided over. >> years ago? dr. hill: a long time ago. >> glen simpson? dr. hill: no. >> dr. hill, in your testimony , in your deposition, excuse me, that christopher steele was your counterpart at one time? dr. hill: that's correct. >> you testified you met with christopher steele in 2016. i assume that is still correct? dr. hill: yes. >> the only thing we didn't get on that, do you know about when that was in 2016 and how many times? dr. hill: i'm afraid i don't. i actually met with him, you asked in the deposition when the most recent time i met with him in 2016, and he retired from the british intelligence services in 2009. >> i am asking about 2016. dr. hill: 2016 i don't recall, but i met with him at some time before. >> but you don't member the date? dr. hill: i don't, i'm afraid. >> you stated i

ohr of fusion gps, there's a lot unclear about when a trial would take place. the thinking by a lot of folks on capitol hill that it would take place in january or february but there's a lot that could happen. kristen: it will be fascinating to see what impact that has on the 2020 race because so many democratic contenders need to be back in washington. >> reporter: a lot of will effect. leland: february iowa caucuses. kristen: i believe so. thank you. we get to 2020 in a minute but for reaction to the house impeachment hearing is what we expect next, the chairman of the house armed services, congressman washington state, frequent guest on the show, appreciate it as always. this is what nancy pelosi had to say in march about impeachment, she said impeachment is so divisive to the country, unless there is something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan i don't think we should go down that path because it divide the country and he, meaning the president, is just not worth it. overwhelming, compelling and bipartisan. that doesn't seem to be working out so

. >> alexandra chalupa former dnc official admitted she provided anti--trump information, nelly ohr. >> former msnbc political contributor david jolly here to shed light on this. david, nbc news has confirmed that ukrainian prosecutor viktor shokin says he actually did meet with nunes in vienna austria back in 2018. nunes says it's all just drummed up by the media. he tried not to answer some of the questions. in fact, here's what he said on fox news today. >> were you in vienna with shokin? >> yeah. so look, maria, i really want to answer all of these questions, and i promise i will come back on the show and answer these questions, but because there is criminal activity here, we're working with the appropriate law enforcement agencies, we're going to file all this. everyone's going to know the truth. everybody is going to know all the facts. but i think you can understand that i can't compete by trying to debate this out with the public media when 90% of the media are totally corrupt. and because this is criminal in nature and it's so bad, it's so slanderous, we've got all the facts

one of the witnesses is nellie ohr, a contactor for the company that produced that dossier and another is alexander chalupa, who was iaconsultant for the dnc, alleged to have been involved in sort of the theory of ukrainian collusion. both of those things are very much in the nunes sweet spot and are part of the nunes and fox news counternarrative regarding what happened in 2016. it's a little bit hard to understand what they would have to do with impeachment, but when i look at this list, that's what i think of. that's what jumps out at me. >> so i call this a wish list by republicans, kaline. how much do you think that adam schiff and company will say, okay, check, we'll let all of these guys get there onto the witness stand? >> i think democrats should just reject this list outright. and when you look at this and you see hunter biden on that list, it's not serious. they're trying to turn this into a circus. they're not trying to get down to the truth, and they're playing a game here. because at the end of the day, it is not about joe biden, the impeachment inquiry. it's not about hu

ainsley: there is nellie ohr, tim morrison russian and advisor on the president's national security council. hale. and then kurt volker, you've heard his name a lot. former u.s. special representative for ukraine negotiations. brian brian i have heard democrats say yesterday hey, you know what? all this shouldn't be a problem. morrison shouldn't be a problem. other ones they call them crazy republican conspiracies because you don't follow them they are conspiracies. others are investigations that need to be done. i see a huge problem with that on top of that, too. the republicans want to say, look, there was a reason why the president was curious about ukraine was doing in 2016 and that would establish the reason for him to be holding up the aid if, in fact, he did. steve: the witness list was due on saturday morning and ever since then the democrats have taken a look at it. and congressman hakim jeffries, a democrat from new york, who is the house democratic caucus chair said this. house republicans #cover-up caucus, want sham witnesses to testify. my two cents? get lost. lindsey graham to

nellie ohr for fusion gps. tim morrison is the person gordon sondland told that aid to -- kurt volker and all witnesses that the whistleblower relied on to put together his or her complaint. one or more of the witnesses will be vetoed by devin schiff. he said having the whistleblower testify would be redundant and unnecessary and he also said he has no interest in sham investigations of the bidens. will hurd who worked at the c.i.a. for nine years says the identity of the whistleblower should be protected but that there is benefit to hearing from hunter biden. listen here. >> i would love to hear from hunter biden and love to hear from the other americans that served on the board of burisma. i'm curious to know how someone who doesn't have any experience in ukraine or natural gas company gets on the board of a natural gas company in ukraine. >> the press secretary stephanie grisham saying she expects the public hearings to be more of the same of what happened behind closed doors over the past couple of weeks. l

it's on the record testimony from fusion gps personnel like nellie ohr. and it's pretty clear the democrats are trying to hide what they did in spy gate and now through the fake whistleblower gate are trying to hide what they did in conjunction with ukrainian people and other foreign nationals to spy on donald trump. brian, it's no more complicated than that. that's what they are trying to do. they are trying to sweep it all under the rug by counter accusing donald trump. steve: they do not seem to have much curiosity regarding that. here is adam schiff talking about the hypocrisy of what's going on. watch. this i would hope that there will be republicans who will be willing to step forward and say whatever the political consequences, if this was barack obama had done this, they would have voted to impeach him in a heart beat. with fraction of the evidence. steve: he also said yesterday, mr. bongino, that he doesn't know why the senate would ever call him as a witness because he has got nothing to say. he would be able to say what they took by depositions

ohr and christina chalupa. steve: he said if you try to out the whistleblower you will have the ethics committee knocking at your door. kevin mccarthy, the only person who knows the eye did notty is adam schiff because his staff talked to him. we can't use names? don't be surprised if the whistleblower's name is used and then if it is used, adam schiff says, you're out of order which would then call it out. it will go crazy. brian: kevin mccarthy i want to get clear. when we started kavanaugh hearings. sometimes the attorneys out there, they would cut off the attorneys. i will take it from here. i'm wondering, if you can't see time, can you go don't like dirn steve castor is going i take my representing your party? steve: he is staff counsel for the republicans. they worked out -- brian: wondering if he can be interrupted by more succinct lawmaker if that is indeed the case? steve: i wouldn't be surprised if the republicans try to interrupt democrats when they have a line of questioning. brian: that will be int

i think the republicans, if they could get to, you know, bide or to nellie ohr, they could open up the avenues of corruption and also the collusion between the ukrainians and the democrats in connection with the 2016 campaign. since they are not going to be allowed to do that i would say two things. number one, you play the hand you are dealt. the hand there dealt is adam schiff. he is obviously not an honest broker. he started out these hearings with that cockamamie godfather part 4 wannabe version of the trump-zelensky conversation. i would keep bringing it back to him and making him the focus of the attention to show just how unfair this process is. second thing is i was struck by your conversation a few minutes ago about nikki haley, seems to me that vindicationman is another iteration of the same thing she is talking about what wentsn between secretary tillerson. this is rising up against the only elected official that we elect to make policy. you know, i may happen to agree with the policy community on ukraine and on the president's views of russia. brian: but you are not the pre

that the republicans want to call from hunter biden to devin archer, to nellie ohr going all the way back. turns out that chairman of the intelligence committee adam schiff, who voted on the resolution to allow them to call these witnesses said i don't think we are going to get to them. ed: he has veto power that's one of the things the republicans are mad about. jedediah: president trump said here is the original transcript. the first transcript. now we got another one come out looking very transparent. you have that contrast with adam schiff saying we don't want to hear from these people. great parallel from the president. if i were him release as much information as possible. and shift over and focus on the issues. look like the democrats look like they have had an agenda to get rid of this president on day one and not complying with the process because are they afraid of what those witnesses might a? griff: adam schiff put into ranking member devin nunes saying the impeachment inquiry and the committee will not serve as vehicles for any member to carry out the same sham investiga

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also nellie ohr needs to be forced to testify under oath in the u.s. senate. she worked for fusion gps. along with christopher steele, her husband, fourth ranking highest number of the doj, what was her role in proliferating pressure and misinformation throughout the highest levels of government? what did she get from ukraine? also we need to bring in former dnc contractor, operative, remember politico in january 2017 detailed her efforts to meet with ukrainians in the ukrainian embassy. did she collude on behalf of the dnc and hillary clinton? did they actually get dirt from ukraine? did she enlist the efforts of this foreign government on hillary clinton's behalf who awarded her to do it? also, ambassador volker must be called to answer questions under oath as well. did he have any direct evidence of aid to ukraine being tied to a political campaign? was the aid actually delivered? do you think corruption in ukraine is a legitimate concern for a president of the united states? everything that you witnessed this week is all about the upcoming election. the se