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even after the civil war, and the reconstruction era, the court articulated american apartheid in plessy versus ferguson, approving jim crow arrangements throughout most of the country. so there was that brief few decades -- now the roberts court, the supreme court has returned to that traditional baseline. and all it means to me, at least in my mind, and made a liam speaking as a person in politics. but we need to turn out the vote like we've never turned out the vote before, the people need to stand up and defend democratic institutions and the rights of the people, because a supreme court is certainly not doing anything for us. >> congressman raskin, let me ask you a question that i posed to them josh gerstein, the reporter about the story of the top of the hour. from the ruling, the way that it is written, and with the caveat that this is what appears to be a first draft opinion and, it will likely go through many other iterations in lots of changes, before we ultimately get the ruling, but based on what we've got, there's a remarkable leak of a first draft, and the way that justice

this is a you mentioned the book on plessy, but it's also part. i mean i read that in like the strange career of jim crow, right? it was like, oh, yeah period of the determinacy and that's right morgan cowser gets more specific about it, right? it's right that it's not it in a sense. it's not until jim crow. gets hook gets linked with disfranchisement that it turns into something right? and i think that's absolutely right. and and yeah, i think it makes sense right to see the 30 years after emancipation as something like and a period of flux or i guess you could call it something like what like i mean the interregnum right but but but there was it was an open question, right what the terms going to be? on what's the south was reconstructed, which black? citizenship was was consolidated and especially in in a relation to the dominant economy in the south. and these things just got worked work through right over time. i mean, it's not. yeah, and it's it's you made the point earlier about what was at stake for the merchant landlord merchant class in

it's probably the most important decision since plessy vs.an ferguson was overturnedve by brown versus boardrt. as in that case, the democrats u are very, very upset about it. but i think you're right, focusing on the procedural aspects, the institutional aspectsfol and i don't and frankly, i think there are a lot of former conservative voices we can't count on . i'm waiting for david frenches, the conservative case from leaking draft opinions to come out and explain why we're wrong.g. on every disasterr level. the court needs to come together in unanimity against this and we need to go back to basic principles, basic functions and norms of our institutions and i'm afraid that that's unlikely to happenen at this point. >> yeah, i was a thinking p abot tonight is justice breyer now obviously is retiring. he's been a he's been a stalwart champion of a more liberal judicial activism . fhe court i've had the chance to meet him a few times as always, nothing but pleasant and nice.ve and each time i speak to him, very genteel individual. i mean, what what is tonighting tonight ? this is the

yes, probably quitepy a fewer plessy vs. ferguson any one .ss but it doesn't matter.yyo the legal experts are screaming about fascism. they're telling you it's only a matter of time before the supreme court brings back segregation, if not slavery. watch. this is just the beginning. next , we'll go after gay marriage and maybe maybe the day david is a brown versusx board of education. they already eroded our votinglr rights a little bit. soro i see some i see fascism down the line here was what you know, it's almost you know, it almost detracts from us to play you something like that . but that show is real ratings. people listen to someone like that literally couldn't navigator a checkout scanner telling you what the supreme court draft opinion might mean's despite the fact she's totally capable of reading it or anything else longer than a tweet, whatever . she clearly didn't read what alito wrote. alito did actually , by the way, anticipate this argument that if youot do this , all kin of other terrible things are going to

so rights movement, there's been we have the aftermath of plessy versus ferguson and it's not, you know separate but equal jim crow south has been reality, but there have been you know pushes and attempts and and activism from african americans as well as white americans to do away with those restrictions and to provide and restore citizenship and voting rights to african americans and this is where we start to see that alignment with a lot of the memory of the confederacy to politics, you know, nationwide. but you can see here these couple of these quotes that i took out of the speech. this is a state senator, and i wanted to draw your attention to what he says here about i'm gonna have to read it from the screen real quick about alabama soldiers, right? he's talking he's he's speaking to them as if they're listening the dead they're at vicksburg, alabama soldiers. you did not fight in vain the ideal you fought for the principles you believed in we still fight for and believe in states rights so states rights, there it is again. and we think this fight will never be settled until it is

they claimed overturning roe is no different than the supreme court overturning plessy v. ferguson, the ruling that gave us the odious fiction of separate but equal and later overturned by brown v. board of education. but there is a profound difference. it appears never before in the history of america has a supreme court decision abandoned settled law that made americans less free. never. in the past, when the court has taken the serious step of overturning settled law, it has done so to expand freedom, expand opportunity, not eliminate it. what the activist anti-choice majority on this court would do is unprecedented, radical, and dangerous. here is another fact that republican lawmakers are hoping you won't notice. it's not just the right to abortion that is in jeopardy. justice alito's draft opinion in the dobbs case questions the very existence of the right to privacy. it argues that enumerated rightt explicitly mentioned in the constitution, unenumerated rights not explicitly mentioned in the constitution -- must be deeply rooted in u.s. history and tradition in orde

african-americans have no rights, that the white man is bound to respect, the civil war and reconstruction, plessy versus ferguson in 1896, upholding jim crow, apartheid in america as well as the recurring heroic struggle for civil rights and freedom in our country. critical race theory in law schools, was never taught in america's public schools. where the right wing decided to make its name of anything they wanted to purge from public schools in america specifically the actual history of race and racism as well as teachings about gender, sexual orientation and gender identity. it began with the right wing propagandist named chris rufo who decided to use creek race theory as the cover and a villain for his campaign to destroy public education in america. november of last year he tweeted is time to clean house in america, remove the attorney general, lay siege to the universities, abolish teachers unions and overturn the school boards. recently he elaborated his program in a speech called laying siege to the institutions. a favorite phrase of his with an eerie ring to those of us who were here on

board of education was a landmark ruling overruling a case called plessy versus ferguson which established the sameful separate but equal doctrine between blacks and whites in public transportation and public schools. brown said that's fundamentally discriminate yoar and will -- discriminating and will not stand because it does not meet the constitutional standards. it's tough today to imagine what our country would look like had the supreme court not reached its decision in brown nearly 70 years ago. classrooms, restrooms, water fountains, and even health care facilities would be designated by race. i'm confident i can speak for everyone in this chamber when i say thank goodness the court overturned plessy v. ferguson and reached the ruling that it did in brown v. board of education. there are more modern examples where the court overruled precedent like lawrence v. texas. it was overruled in 2003 by the precedent established by bowers v. hardwick. it made it a crime to engage in same-sex conduct. so without a doubt, the court's decision to overturn its precedents has altered our society,

and we were not talking about oh plessy v. ferguson [inaudible] respect that when they [inaudible] start decisive. >> [inaudible] the second ball to reevaluation as plessy we, would you agree? >> they haven't would be for the expanded and they have been. so one of the things we haven't talked about is that [inaudible] even just a couple of years ago, [inaudible] this supreme court used to further uphold the principle of roe v. wade and also ensure [inaudible] i hold up, my time has expired. >> gentleman's yield back, miss escobar. >> thank you, mister chairman. i want to thank my witnesses. it has been really challenging to this to my republican colleagues essentially minimize and in fact completely ignore how difficult decisions like this are for women all over the country. it's even more difficult to listen to them act as they know better for women white women, how women should plan their future. and the fact that they believe they should be the ones to stand between a woman and her talk to. it is shocking to me how backward

wade will join dred scott and plessy v. ferguson on the ash heap of history, a stain upon the history of the united states, to be sure, but one that the nation and those who have the good fortune to live within her confines may yet live to see redeemed. aspiration, hope, faith that this nation may yet indeed see the living out of its creed. that's what i aspire to tonight. and i thank the gentleman and i yield back. mr. perry: i thank the gentleman and those are indeed inspiring and hopeful words. as we stand ready to hear the court's final decision, not trying to leak it, not trying to persuade it unduly. doing the work of democracy, of the representative republic, speaking on behalf of the people that we represent, our bosses, so that they can decide, not just a few folks across the street here in robes making decisions for the whole country. with that, i'd like to recognize the kind gentleman, the good gentleman, mr. ralph norman. mr. norman: thank you, congressman mr. norman: thank you, mr. perry, thank you for getting