adam kinzinger is another. he was on the program a couple of hours ago. >> if there is not criminality in that, understanding an attempt to overthrow the government was occurring, doing nothing, behind-the-scenes communication, some of the stuff we're seeing out of georgia, then i don't know what is breaking the law. >> i want to bring in peter baker, correspondent for the "new york times" and former federal prosecutor and nbc legal and lust cynthia oxney. this committee has been very strategic. it does seem like they're out there a lot these couple of days. this tweet from elaine laura the latest with this video. are we going to see them or hear from them on a daily or near-daily basis putting out information until these hearings resume? >> i don't know that it will be daily but i think they've made it clear they're not done, they still have more to tell the american public and they plan to be very vocal about it. they have the august recess and they plan to resume hearings in september in the thick of a mid-t

we saw a little bit of the preview from adam kinzinger. you had testimony from members of the white house saying that while this is going on, you could see the images on tv, but donald trump stayed in the dining room. and basically did nothing. so i would love to hear -- i think we're all looking to see what kind of details matt pottinger and sarah matthews provide just how resistant president trump was to doing something. >> and you were one of the people texting people in the white house, telling the president to -- telling them to tell the president to tell the crowd to go away. tell us about the two witnesses tonight. i don't know them at all. do you think they're going to be credible with the republican audience? >> they will be. i think it was smart planning to pair them together. so matt pottinger has enormous credibility in the national security community. he's a marine corps veteran. sarah matthews, a tried and true republican, hand picked by kayleigh mcenany. so you can't right her off as a never trumper or rino. >> i can't. they

but congressman adam kinzinger released the audio recordings to show what some lawmakers investigating the attack on the capitol have been dealing with. >> natural lead. i as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with. >> no, family is. and we're going to get you. >> lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says >> implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails implying that they will be rewarded if they. >> take the 5th amendment or do not appear still that investigation into the attack on the capitol is moving forward. the next public hearing i

he did not act to call off the rioters, and instead, as adam kinzinger put it, he watched tv. in fact, adam kinzinger tweeted out a preview video this morning, showing various officials at the white house that day describing that, in fact, all trump did was watch tv as the violence unfolded. here it is. >> was the president in that private dining room the whole time that the attack on the capitol was going on, or did he ever go to the oval office, to the white house situation room, anywhere else? >> the best of my recollection, he was always in the dining room. >> was he in the dining room when you talked to him on january 6th? >> it's my understanding he was watching television. [ inau [ inaudible ] >> yes. >> and this is really all building on what the committee is trying to prove, that president trump was intent on letting that violence continue. when they likely referred us to the doj as they hinted they will, that's what prosecutors would need if they were to ever charge trump, proof that he acted intentionally, conspired to obstruct congress. we expect to see more video

. >> you know, the best we have is a little suggestion from adam kinzinger, about what to expect. and i will show that tonight, just like everyone else has. that's all we got. and they've been pretty reliable about delivering really important hearings. and so, we have every right to expect that. >> yeah, i mean, tonight, adam schiff just told me that we will get tape testimony from witnesses we have not heard from before. so, that's something to watch for. there's obviously been a bunch of public open source reporting today about what witnesses we can expect. but again, it's gonna happen, no reason to speculate. we'll see when it does. >> i will see you thursday night. >> thanks, lawrence. >> thank you, rachel. >> well, the school board that hired pete arredondo to be the chief of police of the uvalde school districts five person police force held a public meeting tonight in uvalde at the high school, the day after the texas house of representatives released a report that blamed chief arredondo along with hundreds of other police officers, for waiting too long to enter a classroom

last hour we spoke with a member of the committee, congressman adam kinzinger who seemed open to that idea. >> i can't do the doj's job. as a nonlawyer, there is all kinds of threshold questions. but my belief is this. we never want to get to a position in a country where we prosecute last administrations because that is what failed republicans, failed democracies do. but if a failed coup and an obvious coup attempt and a president that didn't just choose not to act, but willfully watched to see where the mob would go for three hours on january 6, if he is not held accountable through law, i actually fear that that is a far worse president -- far worse precedent, to make the determination, if they can and should indictment. if we just wash this under the rug and say for the sake of the country, let's put this aside, there is going to be somebody else, whether it is donald trump in 2024, or somebody else somewhere down the line that recognized that as the floor of their behavior and pushed even more and we can't survive that. >> that was congressman kinzinger last hour on "morning joe.

and adam kinzinger has been somewhat unplugged. not just going after former president trump, but today, it was interesting. let me play a portion of that. >> he thinks it's cool. i'm not even watching the hearing, guys. i'm too cool to watch the hearings but i've got my mind made up. that probably works. tom could the only has built a reputation of acting like the toughest guy on the planet but he can't even put in front of his eyes a narrative which may challenge his soul that he will have to tell the people the truth? the people you're lying to may be patting you on the head. i have no sympathier to people like tom cotton or anyone else that lies to the base voter. >> what about that, david? >> unplugged, as you said. as much as a congressman can be unplugged, really. there is no doubt kinzinger and cheney as the two republicans on the january 6th committee are out there day in and day out, fighting this fight. totally against the grain of the leadership of their party. of the voters in their party. at left the majority of them.

kinzinger? >> well, i certainly think there certainly is a growing number of republicans, exponentially growing. this is painful to watch. it's part of the healing process for republicans. i also think this is a big time for change in america. also at the new york times on monday, i think it's over two thirds of democrats don't want joe biden to run again. the former -- the last two presidents in our country are now going to be not at the top of the ticket. i don't think we actually see them run again as president. i think the democrats are gonna wise up and find someone more competent, i think republicans are gonna wake up and find someone that's more focused on solving problems instead of there you go, and hopefully, that's better for america. >> we shall see. i find it also frustrating, this is an interesting thing for you perhaps one of you can respond to this, is that people, especially democrats are so happy with liz cheney and adam kinzinger and lieutenant governor. the moment they do som

. >> adam kinzinger said there seems to be a major threat here. ornado likes to lie. if he is, and he is saying hutchinson didn't have it right, do you bring him in or let it go? >> the committee clearly wants to bring in ornado again. we know from sources that ornado has been in twice with them. there were questions about his testimony when he came in in the spring. you're right. that's the risk now if he comes in and if he -- if there was some way in which he would come and testify publicly. these have been closely choreographed affairs. the hearings. other than the hutchinson hearing, they've been making more use of recorded testimony and documents in the hearing than live witnesses. partially because that's something you control. you can't control a live witness as much. >> help me from a legal perspective. does the committee help or hurt its case if it brings in someone who might push back somewhat behind closed door is one things, but what if it's public? >> it's a strategic decision by the committee in terms of what they're trying to achieve to establish their

in a year and a half since i was injured, they know my injuries, only adam kinzinger and liz cheney have approached me from the other side. it's disheartening. i'm not saying that i need that from them, but that shows a lot from the people who claim that they support the police and back the blue and are pro-law and order. >> joining our coverage, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and law professor at the university of alabama. also joining us, frank figliuzzi, former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence, and ben rhodes is back, former deputy national security advisor for president obama, all msnbc contributors. frank, it was hard for me to -- it's hard to imagine listening to these hearings and this testimony of trump's enthusiasm for the violence, his knowledge of not just his supporters being armed but exactly what they were armed with, and to imagine these officers who were the frontline victims of that violence sitting through all that. >> you know, this theme of contrition is interesting. i'm told that people in recovery, recovery from addiction and who are in 12-step prog

that's according to republican and january 6th select committee member adam kinzinger. the unrelenting pressure to hold trump accountable for a deadly riot on his way out of office and attempting to remain in power. kinzinger and those who agree with him were very likely to be relieved to read last night's bomb shell article reporting that federal prosecutors are examining donald trump's actions in their criminal probe into the efforts to overturn the 2020 election. the post reporting marks the very first time the public was made aware of the degree of prosecutors' interest in the ex-president. from that reporting, quote, prosecutors who are questioning witnesses before a grand jury including two top aides to vp mike pence have asked in recent days about conversations with trump, his lawyers, and others in his inner circle who sought to substitute trump allies for certified electors from some states joe biden won. a massive revelation from the justice department as the post points out, quote, no former president has ever been charged with a crime in the country's histor

congressman adam kinzinger is back with that. adam kinzinger i back with that >>> welcome back to "morning joe." it is monday, july 25th, it is 8:00. we begin this hour with some news made yesterday by congresswoman liz cheney, the vice chair of the january 6th select committee, about the committee's interest in interviewing ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. >> the committee is engaged with her counsel. we certainly hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily, but the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she does not. i hope it doesn't get to that. i hope she will come in voluntarily. we have spoken with numbers of people who are similarly situated in terms of the discussions that she was having, that you mentioned. so it's very important for us to speak with her, and as i said, i hope she will agree to do so voluntarily. but i'm sure we will contemplate a subpoena. >> she sent several emails to mark meadows and exchanged e-mails with john eastman, who pushed an illegal plan

but committee member adam schiff is saying what we can expect. >>> plus, congressman adam kinzinger sharing some of the terrifying threats his office has been receiving since the hearings began. >>> and will former white house counsel pat cipollone appear before the committee for a deposition today? those stories and a check on the weather when we come right back. e weather when we come right back. those stories and a check on the those stories and a check on the to help prevent bleeding gums, try saying hello gumwash with parodontax active gum health. it kills 99% of plaque bacteria and forms an antibacterial shield. try parodontax active gum health mouthwash. >>> the house select committee investigating january 6th announced it will hold another public hearing, tuesday, july 12th at 10:00 a.m. southeastern. the committee has not publicly announced a witness list, but here is what congressman adam schiff, a member of the committee, said last night right here on msnbc. >> we want to shed light on how that mob came to be there on january 6th, how they were called, how they were brought toget

there are certain people like liz cheney, and jeff blake, and adam kinzinger, and mitt romney, and a few others. who take a longer view. and say they are playing for keeps. this is history's verdict, they want their children to sort of looked proudly upon how they contributed during a very very precarious moment in american history. they actually care about their legacy. there's also a number of instances and reporting this. booker i would talk to lindsey graham, or i would talk to kevin mccarthy. or any number of people. and say, do you worry about your legacy, do you worry about being remembered as someone who lied for donald trump? and almost to a person, they were just contemptuous of the question. they would sort of look at me as if i had three heads. and say, why would i care about that? where is the statue to jeff blake, or liz cheney? as if to say, there's really no reason to look beyond the day-to-day expediency's of keeping donald trump, happy, or not sort of triggering him in some way. so to me, it was a very short term precarious game. and you know, i would be talking to

we thank, you republican representative adam kinzinger of illinois. it is a real pleasure, thank you for so much my friend. >> thank. you >> going overseas, in the ongoing effort to get american basketball star, brittney griner, out of a russian prison. secretary of state anthony blinken said he had a quote, frank and direct conversation with his russian counterpart sergei lavrov yesterday. lincoln says that they have discussed several topics with regarding the warn ukraine including the release of gardner and paul whelan, another american being detained in russia. nbc news has learned that the u.s. government proposed swapping griner in wayland for victor boo. a notorious russian arms dealer imprisoned in the united states. whom russia has been trying to get released for years now. nbc news has also learned that russia responded to that offer by demanding the release of a convicted murder in prison in germany. u.s. officials say this apparent counter proposal shows the russians are quote, not serious. after the break, something deadly serious. the si

the hearing will be led by congressman adam kinzinger and congresswoman elaine luria, both of whom are military veterans. they will take a minute-by-minute look at donald trump's inaction for more than three hours that day, which the committee says amounts to a clear dereliction of duty. congresswoman elaine luria is our next guest. thank you for spending time with us ahead of what i know is a very busy day for you, in a rainstorm, i can see behind you. we have been following, over the course of the last hour and 15 minutes, the fast-moving developments on the secret service side, and i want to quickly ask you about that before we turn to tonight. your colleague, congresswoman lofgren, said they had very recently obtained private counsel. are you still seeking all of the evidence and all the texts, or is this moving toward meadows territory of a legal standoff with the secret service? >> well, the committee did issue a subpoena, and the deadline has passed for that to request these text messages from the dates around january 5th and 6th that would provide critical information to give u

you heard stephanie murphy talk about his recollection being hazy and you saw adam kinzinger's flat out tweets suggesting that tony ornato may lie on occasion. it makes you wonder whether or not they're trying to smoke it out to some extent. >> it's possible, john, but it's also possible -- look, we know that cassidy hutchinson was a very cooperative witness. you can see not just in the testimony we saw live last week but in the video testimony she gave prior to that live testimony, she is clearly providing the full extent of her knowledge about each of the questions she's asked. it's possible that ornato was not a very compliant, cooperating witness. he may have hedged his answers. he may have appeared to have been overly restrictive about the things that he was saying or not trying to remember things particularly hard. it's easy when under testimony, when under questioning, to say i don't remember instead of actually, you know, really pushing yourself to kind of redredge these memories. so they may have other complaints or concerns with mr. ornato that are beyond those we know out in

but congressman adam kinzinger released the audio recordings to show what some lawmakers investigating the attack on the capitol have been dealing with. >> natural guy. >> as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with it. >> no, family is. >> and we're going to get you lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails implying that they will be rewarded if they. >> take the 5th amendment or do not appear still that investigation into the attack on the capitol is moving forward. >> the next public hearing

very few did what liz cheney and adam kinzinger is doing and standing up and saying they don't believe in this, it's wrong, even though a lot of people feel that way. people decided to either go along or at least keep quiet when others spoke out. >> i wonder at what point that breaks. if he was able to overturn the 2020 election or somebody was hurt that day, i mean, would that have been a breaking point for some of these republicans? is there a line or is that line, peter -- would that line, even then, if somebody did get hurt, a lawmaker i'm talking about, get pushed back even further? >> i'm not sure where that line is. on january 6th no lawmaker got hurt but five, six, seven people and some people who died afterwards did die and those were the police officers, as paul ryan said, these congressmen and members of congress know because they are there to protect them every day and to see them under siege, not just killed in a couple cases but hurt, devastated and attacked in a way that you would think could have broken through. i think on that day, on january 6th if you had taken a pol

last hour, republican adam kinzinger tweeted a preview of what you'll see tonight, as the panel details where trump was and what he was doing, as that mob descended on the capitol. let's begin with our justice correspondent. so kenzinger putting this tweet out. can you talk about the significance of what we are seeing? >> reporter: absolutely. it goes to the fact that the committee will hammer down on what they're calling trump's dereliction of duty. so what adam kinzinger tweeted out drills down on that and illustrates what he said earlier this week, during a large chunk of those 187 minutes, trump was "gleely watching tv." so here's the clip showing multiple white house officials documenting what trump was doing. >> to my recollection, he was always in the dining room. >> what did they say during that brief encounter that you were in the dining room? >> i believe they were watching the tv. >> do you know whether he was watching tv in the dining room when you talked to him on january 6th? >> umm, it's my understanding he was watching television. >> okay. we're having a -- >> jessica sn

adam kinzinger, i'm, sorry committee member adam schiff saying this morning that it means they, quote, probably have a concern about the potential criminal liability. that is because in their official capacity, their secret service agents are entitled to representation from the dhs, which the secret service falls under. so, this is something that the committee members are very seriously, they're taking very seriously, they want to get more information during this next month recess before they get back for more hearings in september, yasmin. >> cynthia, let's pick off where she left off, it's kind of your thoughts on the fact the of two secret service members now and the former presidents driver retaining legal counsel. what do you think? >> well, i don't think whether or not the president lunged at the wheel or didn't wondrous the wheel is a critical fact, right? i think it's in disputed, undisputed at this point that he wanted to go to the capitol and there was an argument. exactly what happened is less important to me, especially since cassidy hutchinson said, this is what tony orna

here's what january ex committee member adam kinzinger said about that today. >> now, all of a sudden, you have the secret service members, lawyer-ed up, and not coming in to talk to us. >> kinzinger said that first thing this morning, and in the late afternoon today, the director of the secret service, james marie, finally broke his silence on the worst scandal ever to hit the secret service. after one week of total silence, the director of the secret service issued a written statement, which was, at this point, very difficult to believe. james marie said in writing, i am firmly reiterating the commitment of the united states secret service and supporting the extraordinary efforts of the january 6th select committee, since day one, i have directed our personnel to cooperate fully and completely with the committee, and we are currently finalizing dates and times for our personnel to make themselves available to the committee for follow-up inquiries. that last bit is absolutely not true. we are currently finalizing dates and times for our personnel, to make themselves available to the

we're hearing from adam kinzinger. they're getting more people coming forward after watching testimony. we know liz cheney has slammed donald trump recently in a speech. she was at the ronald reagan presidential library this week warning that the former president was what she called a domestic threat, and she also issued this call to duty to young women across the country. we can listen to that. >> i want to speak to every young girl watching tonight. the power is yours. and so is the responsibility. there are no bystanders in a constitutional republic. these days for the most part, men are running the world. and it is really not going that well. >> and she got a lot of applause there at the reagan library. we heard there, senator, do you believe this is a moment when young girls will hear the call to serve and make their voices heard? >> yes. over history there have been moments in time whether it was the suffrage moment and later the women's movement, and on and on, and when i ran for the senate in 1992, there's a ph

kinzinger wanted the republicans on the committee summed up trump's behavior as a dereliction of duty. here he is. >> president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse and telling the mob to go home, he chose not to act. but there were hundreds that day who put their lives on the line to protect the people inside the capitol, and to safeguard our democracy. >> cnn's ryan nobles is following all of the latest revelations from thursday night's hearing, and filed this report. >> there was a lot that we learned and solve for the first time in this thursday night hearing in the january 6th select committee that he pushed to prime time because they believed it was some of the most important information they had to share with the american people. there was the attacks from donald trump speech on january six, and january seven or he seemed to have a difficult time saying that the election was settled, and it was time to move on. there was also a missing radio traffic from members of the secret service that were protecting the vice president mike pence on t

adam kinzinger joins us shortly. text messages are missing from the two top homeland security, acting deputy secretary ken cuccinelli. they too were purportedly lost in a reset of their government phones. nick mulvaney who served as acting white house chief of staff in the prior administration had this to say about it. >> it's weird and it's getting a little bit weirder. when i left the white house, i had to leave my work phone there. if the same was true with ken, he would have to turn over that work phone to somebody else and he would not have been in control of it since he left the administration. so again, does it look weird from the outside? does it look somewhat nefarious, yes. >> it certainly does seem strange, all of it as does kevin mccarthy's seemingly amnesia about who he spoke to on the sings after the president told supporters he was going to the capitol with them. >> cassidy hutchinson testified -- >> so we're going to january 6th. >> you know we're in a recession too, right? >> she testified that you c

adam kinzinger said something that caught my ear in the sense that will eventually change. take a listen. >> what does history say in five or ten years? i can get as close as i can to guaranteeing that in about ten years there's not going to have been a single trump supporter that exists anywhere in the country. it's like nixon. nobody supported nixon. i figure that's going to happen. >> i feel like november 2016 should stop everyone from guaranteeing anything ever to some degree, but do you agree with that assessment the party will not be tethered to the former president five or ten years from now? >> i truly believe so. i hope so. with him we lost the house, the senate and the white house. we cannot just rely on trump's base and the maga base. also a game of numbers, financial numbers, people like ron desantis causing millions of dollars. he provides an alternative to trump. the conservative values without the chaos. they're looking at options. there are people out there that can bring the policies without all the chaos and they realize we can't just win the primary. we h

but congressman adam kinzinger released the audio recordings to show what some lawmakers investigating the attack on the capitol have been dealing with. >> natural guy. >> as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with it. >> family is. and we're going to get you. >> lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails implying that they will be rewarded if they. >> take the 5th amendment or do not appear still that investigation into the attack on the capitol is moving forward. >> the next public hearing is

while some republican leaders like representative, liz cheney and adam kinzinger recognize the threat posed by elements within the party. and voices have been drowned out by republican leaders, who on the downplay on the pass and continue expanding the power. even if it means uprooting our democracy. senior box correspondent, zak lays it all out in his new piece titled how conservativism conquered america and corrupted itself. he writes quote, american conservatism is simultaneously ascendant and in crisis. the right has extraordinary political power. it's traditional leadership scenes less capable than ever of imposing limits on how it is wielded. the gop's future belongs to the radical forces, represented by trump and the members of the establishment most willing to cater to them. after a quick break, we take a closer look at how republicans let power overcome principle and, worse how they let party overcome democracy. talk to zach beach, i'm also ruth, ben got to his interview tours been interviewed by the january six committee, for her expertise on protecting democracy. >> that po

but congressman adam kinzinger released the audio recordings to show what some lawmakers investigating the attack on the capitol have been dealing with. >> natural die. >> as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with it. >> no, family is. and we're going to get you. >> lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says >> implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails implying that they will be rewarded if they. >> take the 5th amendment or do not appear still that investigation into the attack on the capitol is moving forward. the next public hearin

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in the immediate adam kinzinger might be right and he's also an extreme outlier. this is stating obvious points. i mean, the republican party at this moment and again, the independence i would say just for this moment in politics don't matter much to the republican majority you might -- i don't know that you are, but you might be seeing come 2023 that's going to be filled with people from districts and 85% of districts that republicans will represent have donald trump as a very popular figure. just one more point here. to put him to the side, you will need a republican candidate like a desantis or someone of that figure to say, listen, we have to put this guy in our past, and i was talking to a trump adviser the other day wo made this interesting point, if you run against trump and you're a legitimate republican or someone who could capture the trump vote, you say he promised to build the wall. he couldn't do it. he could aren't stay out of trouble. everyone around him has been indicted. everyone around him has been in trouble. this chaos, we don't need this as a

will congressman adam kinzinger released lots of clips from phone calls that his office has received end the ideas just laced with profanity and threats of violence against him. he wanted to highlight, you know, not just what the lawmakers are going through, but what his staff members have to deal with when they take these calls. >> that's really die. >> as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with it. >> no, family is. and we're going to get you. >> lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails i

kinzinger. >> the reality is, i'll give this preview, the president didn't do very much but gleefully watched television during this timeframe. >> reporter: testifying in person during the primetime hearing, a pair of former white house officials, both of whom resigned january 6th following the violence. former deputy adviser matt pottinger and deputy press secretary sarah matthews were working that day. >> i stand with trump and the constitution. trump won. biden's illegitimate. >> reporter: as for steve bannon, he struck a defiant tone following day three of his contempt of congress trial. prosecutors rested their case after calling just two witnesses to discuss bannon's refusal to cooperate with the january 6th committee. bannon's attorney argued that he never actually said no to the committee request. they said bannon had been trying to negotiate the terms of his testimony until as recently as last week even though that offer came only days before his trial was slated to begin. while tonight's hearing is the last scheduled event after more than 1,000 witnesses and nearly a year of

but congressman adam kinzinger released the audio recordings to show what some lawmakers investigating the attack on the capitol have been dealing with. >> can actually die. >> as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with it. >> no, family is. and we're going to get you. >> lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails implying that they will be rewarded if they. >> take the 5th amendment or do not appear still that investigation into the attack on the capitol is moving forward. >> the next public h

but congressman adam kinzinger released the audio recordings to show what some lawmakers investigating the attack on the capitol have been dealing with. >> natural he die. >> as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with it. >> no, family is. >> and we're going to get you lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails implying that they will be rewarded if they. >> take the 5th amendment or do not appear still that investigation into the attack on the capitol is moving forward. >> the next public hear

last hour, republican adam kinzinger tweeted a preview of what you'll see tonight, as the panel

congressman adam kinzinger will be with us. >>> new this morning, u.s. officials are worried about action on china by taiwan. concerns have sharpened in the biden administration over house speaker's nancy pelosi visit to taiwan next month. despite urging her to cancel the trip. joining us cnn, national and political analyst, david sanger, he's the national correspondent for "the new york times" who reported this story. david, tell us a little bit about their concerns. what kind of response they're worried about and just the bigger problem this may play into. >> well, brianna, the government thinking inside the administration and really around the world have been that taiwan's essentially safe until 2027 or so which is the time the chinese have said that the peoples liberation army and navy need to be ready to take the isle. but what's happened in the past few months a series of aggressive steps by the pla around taiwan and some analysis about what the chinese have learned from the ukraine invasion are making a lot of senior officials pretty nervous, that

but congressman adam kinzinger released the audio recordings to show what some lawmakers investigating the attack on the capitol have been dealing with. >> match really die. >> as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with it. >> no, family is. >> and we're going to get you lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says >> implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails implying that they will be rewarded if they. >> take the 5th amendment or do not appear still that investigation into the attack on the capitol is moving forward. the next public he

i mean, the signs those are currently serving, like liz cheney, adam kinzinger, there are no prominent republicans that are never trumpers. and i am curious to ask you why, and it is certainly not due to the lack of evidence that has emerged from the committee. why are we not seeing more republicans break with trump once and for all? >> i think it's pretty clear. donald trump is what the republican party wants to be. everywhere he took the party, the sort of party grievance, this party of white nationalism, the party that looks to putin, that's where the republican party wants to be. nobody makes anybody support donald trump. and of these people could oppose him. any of them could stand up and say, i think the party should go in a different direction. but this is what the republican party is. it's not going to correct. there is no, sort of, coming back to some sense of what the party was. this is where the party is, and it's accelerating. i mean, most of the competition to possibly beat or replaced donald trump is just to see who can be the most extreme. and this is what happens in tot

here's a point for my republican friends, i think adam kinzinger sure the republican made this point. i take great faith in the notion that history eventually gets it right. there are not a lot of people running around saying that richard nixon was a great man and i am delighted to support. him joe mccarthy was a great man if only he had stuck around. this is going to be true of donald trump. in my republican colleagues need to know that in need to find the courage that mr. kinzinger and miss cheney found. because our democracy is at stake. >> there is a group of senators, as you know, the denounced two proposals designed to prevent future candidates from stealing elections. the first bill further clarifies the vice president's role in counting electoral college votes. we raises the bar for members of congress to object, it also prevents fake slates of electors for interfering. then you of a second bill, protecting election workers. how critical is passing both of these bills, and you think enough republicans are going to support it? >> well, it is absolutely critical. if you look at

alex: illinois congressman adam kinzinger, who sits on the committee, says to pallone's testimony did not contradict that of other witnesses. >> you will see over the next couple of hearings a little of what he said. certainly, you will see a lot of it in that report, but at no point was there a contradiction of what anybody said. alex: when asked about a report that president trump is considering waving his claim to executive privilege for steve bannon -- >> anybody that wants to talk to the committee, we welcome them to do so. we welcome them to do so under oath. alex: bannon's attorney says mr. brandon is willing to infer first to testify at the public committee. representative liz cheney said the hearings will give the public a chance to hear how the former president sent a violent mob to the capitol and nail to stop the violence. she's also promising a moment by moment attack from several trump white house officials. dion: abc news will provide live coverage of the january 6 hearings on tuesday and thursday. just ahead, you may have noticed gas prices are dropping. up next, how f

a few hours ago committee member adam kinzinger drove the point home by releasing a clip of tonight's testimony. it focuses on what trump was doing while the counter was under siege. while his own staff and own family was begging him to call up the mob. >> the best of my recollection he was always in the dining room. >> mr. meadows or the president? >> do you know whether he was watching tv in the dining room when you talk to him on january 6th? >> it's my understanding he was watching television. -- >> all of this comes one new speculation and questions and swirl around the secret service's text messages. the washington post now reports that the dhs inspector general knew months ago that the secret service have erased text from january 6, but chose not to tell congress. whistleblowers inside that office ultimately five to lawmakers, because, quote, not alerting congressional investigators to missing records reduced the chances of recovering critical pieces of evidence related to the january 6 the tactical want to bring in cobble hill correspondent allie vitali. kimberly atkins is a c

and you heard adam kinzinger lay that out. they're learning a lot of new things day by day. >> it will be interesting to see if any witnesses came forward as a result of her testimony. >>> now, committee vice chair liz cheney was asked by abc's jonathan karl whether the committee would ultimately send the justice department a criminal referral for former president trump. here's what she said. >> we'll make a decision as a committee about it. >> it's possible there could be a criminal referral? >> yes. >> the committee would say, he should be prosecuted and this is the evidence -- >> the justice department doesn't have to wait for a criminal referral. there could be more than one criminal referral. >> what do you think when you hear that? is congresswoman cheney sending a message to merrick garland? >> yes, absolutely. that's why they're talking about a criminal referral. garland probably doesn't want a criminal referral. getting a criminal referral would put them on a spot -- think political pressure to make charges. and then

it's liz cheney and adam kinzinger has been doing, i think, the majority of the questioning. but mostly, it's been actually republicans. people who worked for donald trump who have provided testimony, that i do think matters. and, look, i don't think it's the kind of thing like an aha, gotcha moment where there's going to be an epiphany, and republican voters will suddenly disavow donald trump. i don't think we'll have that storybook ending but what i do think is the happening sort of a gradual erosion of support for donald trump. again, this may not make democrats terribly happy. i think republicans are more like lie to look to somebody like ron desantis as a younger conservative with less baggage. but i do think it's making a difference. and i do think it's hurting donald trump. and i think he knows it. >> yet, you see the move away from trump republicans is more like homer simpson disappearing into the bush. which i think we've all seen that meme, right? so, explain what that looks like in real terms. what does that look like when it comes to fundraising? when it comes to

your fellow republican on the committee, adam kinzinger told cnn on friday he believes the committee has proven donald trump broke the law. what's your personal opinion? do you think donald trump broke the law? >> i think that donald trump, the violation of his oath of office, the violation of the constitution that he engaged in is the most serious misconduct of any president in the history of our nation. i think that, as i said, the committee has not decided whether or not we'll make criminal referrals. that's something we take very seriously, and i would also say that the department of justice certainly is very focused based on what we see publicly on what is the largest criminal investigation in american history. but there's no doubt in my mind that the president of the united states is unfit for further office. any man who would conduct themselves -- or woman who would conduct themselves in the way he did in attempting to overturn an election and stay in power must never again be close to the oval office. >> you said, quote, doors have been opened and, quote, new subpoenas have b

i think that that was adam kinzinger and someone else. so there is a world in which thursday night this sort of primetime -- not even spectacle, primetime drama that the committee is hoping to display to the world will go on. and i will say as jake mentioned, they know that time is of the essence and of the utmost. and so i think based on what, you know, they have conveyed which is that they are really racing against, you know, january when likely a republican house comes in, they are going to do everything possible to proceed on all cylinders. >> chuck, i only have about a minute left with you, but today is the day that we were supposed to see at least the committee was supposed to see the text messages from the secret service that were deleted. we know that the agency has blamed the deletion on a pre-planned data migration. does that send up any red flags to you? >> the fact that it is missing certainly does, but in my experience, if you have a choice between two explanations, made left lance and ineptitude, go with ineptitude every tim

. >> reporter: ahead of tonight's hearing, select committee member adam kinzinger tweeted a preview, a video deposition of white house staffers who was with former trump on january 6. >> and he was always in the dining. >> it is my understanding he was watching television. >> was the violence happening physically on the screen and the television? >> yes. >> reporter: the eighth hearing will focus on what the former president did and did not do during the first hours of the u.s. capitol assault before he later posted this tweet calling off his supporters. >> so go home. we love you. you're very special. >> reporter: the fact that nothing happened and that he took so long for him to act is incredibly puzzling and distressing. >> cbs news has confirmed witnesses are sara mathews and former deputy national security adviser matthew potter. the committee is expected to detail the efforts by theormer esircl convince him to take act during the assault as well as the fallout later that evening and into the next day. >> it is obvious the president, duty. but for all of the details, you have to

so congressman adam kinzinger, you're a republican. he said the committee has laid out a clear criminal case against donald trump. based on your conversations with the committee, do you think it's likely they're going to refer charges to the justice department, and what do you think the justice department is going to do either way? >> i can't tell you anything about any internal deliberations within the committee, but i will tell you this. the attorney general, whether he brings charges or decides not to bring charges, will be described as having acted politically. so i think the only option he has, and he should take it right now s to appoint a special counsel, somebody who can be as free of politics as possible, because all of the evidence in the hearings suggests president trump and those in his immediate orbit need to be investigated. >> okay, so you're not convinced there's a criminal case yet that can be won. >> i think the investigation is still ongoing and there's only so much that a congressional committee can do. ultimately,