let's listen to desantis. you might not love everything about me, my record, i can win. >> we've shown in florida is you can stand up for truth, you can stand on principle, you can fight the woke elite, and you can win. i don't think you can ever find a governor in history that has been attacked more than me for standing up for what's true. we've accomplished more over a four-year period than anybody thought possible. but i can tell you this, we've got a lot more to do. and i have only begun to fight. >> there is a trump-y message to that. go after the woke people, the media. >> also the only i can -- >> only i. but he essentially comes to the table with i have more than 10% of the votes to become president, i have florida, thank you very much. >> he does bring a lot of trump-y elements without being trump itself which is why if you talk to republicans who don't like trump they can be open to supporting gr supporting governor desantis. the fact that he won resoundingly is certainly a plus in his favor. >> it h

the one that's for trump and desantis or the one that's for desantis and trump? -[ laughs ] well, i can't say either one is right 'cause i'm not for either one of those guys. but, you know, it's very interesting to me to see people, uh, paint desantis as "trump without the baggage." he's trump without a lot of things. he's also trump without the charisma. -tylers: whoa! -so it would be difficult for ron desantis to run, as well. i don't see how ron desantis maximizes news coverage. i don't see how he maximizes the news cycle in the same way that trump does. and that was part of the brand. -unfortunately, we gotta leave it there. thank you, tylers. -mm-hmm. yep. -alright, i gotta go do my workout where i kick the satellite dishes off my neighbors' roofs, so let's wrap it out with "i'm not done." ♪♪ -as everyone on spaceship earth must know by now, i am host of "tooning out's" "did that just happen?" late-night show "sparks!" and this week's episode is straight fire. first up, senator ben sasse and i prank call the cops as borat. then, you ever seen an alfredo

desantis. this is a huge win for him. does it change trump's decision-making? no. but does it change the allies and the energy behind donald trump? yeah, and probably rightly so. >> desantis winning re-election in a landslide while donald trump's handpicked candidates mostly underperformed. it was shaking up a race that hasn't started. >> i want to go right to nbc national political correspondent steve kornacki at the big board. we've had action just since we talked to you 40 minutes ago. >> you mentioned at the top the biggest single piece of news is the concession from sean patrick maloney, the chair of the dccc. the irony is unbelievable here. we're talking about democrats have vastly exceeded their expectations in the house last night and actually have a chance still of controlling the house and yet the chairman of the committee that's responsible for the strategy, for the money and recruitment, is going to lose apparently in his own district. let's tell you where the battle for the house s

he believes that he created desantis, in large part he's actually right, desantis wouldn't be governor if it weren't for donald trump. but trump didn't endorse him in his re-election bid, and desantis goes on to win that decisive victory. i went out a few days before the election to a rally that trump had in sioux city and found in talking to the crowd there, these are the red hat wearing, the true believers, most of them, you know, going to the fifth, sixth, seventh trump rally, these people really like ron desantis too. you know, trump may be singularly focused on taking ds down because he believes desantis is not sufficiently loyal or grateful for all that donald trump has done for him, but, you know, trump's supporters like desantis. you can imagine -- imagine there's a debate -- imagine this actually gets to the point where you have a republican debate and desantis is on the stage with donald trump. i mean, one issue that is driving so many of these supporters is anti-vax, hatred of anthony fauci, kind of truthism around covid. donald trump's the guy who, you know, created -- you

and they prefer desantis to trump. jerry: one thing ron desantis did in florida was carrie data county, which just doesn't happen and tells you a lot about -- was carry dade county, which tells you a lot about the breadth of his appeal. so regardless of what desantis is thinking today, the pressure on him from important quarters in the republican party to get in the race and run for president is now going to be huge because people who want an alternative to donald trump right now see him as the horse to ride and that's going to be a hard pressure to resist. jackie: trump is a loser. it is a fact. i mean literally of loser. i'm not trying to be disrespectful. i wouldn't do that. [laughter] he won in 2016 even though he lost the popular vote but every cycle since then, he has lost in -- lost. in 20's party lost both houses of congress. in 2020, he lost. he indeed lost. now in 2022, republicans did not do as well as they thought they would and he is a factor, if not the biggest factor. jerry: so let's assume ron desantis

is the future, desantis is a guy we should go with, desantis, desantis, but there are still at "but trump, but trump come about trump." unless trump stands down, you have one of the craziest quotes i have ever seen from somebody who is a lawmaker who says, what is your plan for 2024? and the person says, dead serious, "our plan is to hope that he's dead by then." no, this is a quote. >> it's a quote. >> trevor: they are saying this. we don't have another way, we don't know what to do. >> it is crass, it is depressing, but it also goes to the passivity of what these folks are doing. someone else will take care of the problem. even now, no one has spoke up. all of the dash like i said, all of the criticisms of trump in private. so i just don't think -- and these are weak people. these are people who have sold whatever they have sold. they have given up for the price of submission. as lindsey graham says, if you don't want to be real, you are in the wrong business. at a certain point, you start to ask yourself, is it worth it? >> trevor: yeah, it really illuminates i think many of the

. >> ron desantis would have my vote? >> why? >> because ron desantis is more in touch with reality with the people and he's more -- >> what's reality? what's the reality he's more in touch with? >> he's better spoken. he understands what voters are going through. he understands. >> reporter: so, yasmin, voters here recognizing that they may have a choice in front of them a few years from now or months from now. but they've got a choice in front of them right now. the reality is that in both the governor's race and the senate contest, the republican incumbents in each of those races have been polling consistently ahead. republicans that i've talked to feel good about where they are in florida at this point. but it's going to be fascinating come election night and once these results shake out, florida and ohio have been talked about for a long time as states that were once swingy, that are getting redder. what's fascinating is the fact that tim ryan is in a lockstep contest there versus val demings here challenging marco rubio for

but ron desantis did. marco rubio did it. in the end, desantis won by nearly 20 points. things were so bad for democrats in florida that cbs went looking for charlie crist supporters, and couldn't find any in public. watch. >> by the way, i got to point out, once we started digesting our food and digesting the day, we realized on that daylong trip we spoke to dozens of people up and down the coast of florida, all in precincts, by the way, that voted for president biden in 2020, but to our surprise we did not run into a supporter of ron desantis' democratic opponent. that would be charlie crist. >> tucker: ha-ha-ha. poorly charlie crist. of course charlie crist was the lamest possible candidate the democrats ever could have run, probably because they knew that desantis was going to win. this is one of those those rare elections in which voters were, of course, rejecting the other side, but in this election a lot of those voters appear, the polling shows this, to be affirming the side they voted for. they weren't just voting against. they were voting for. they were voting

desantis in florida who, it was a tsunami. he won miami-dade county which is a county biden held by tens of thousands of votes. lisa: is there a larger takeaway? each different state is a different story in terms of what the electorate message. with respect to florida, what is the message being fed with the fact that miami-dade is turning republicans so decisively for the first time in decades? anne-marie: this is what ron desantis leaned into, it has to do with the pandemic. he said he kept businesses functioning and your light continued and look where we are now. the rest of the country has followed what he would say is florida's lead but during that time, it was very controversial. jonathan: if there was a proxy war yesterday over the last month, it was in pennsylvania. kailey: this was an incredibly tight race coming into election day and the democrat john fetterman pulled it off, 93 percent of votes have been counted in pennsylvania and he held more than 50%. the reason why pennsylvania is such a bellwether state is becau

desantis ahead of trump. congressman byron reynolds, the victorious republican candidate from florida joins us now. congratulationses,man, great stuff. >> thanks. thank you, stu. stuart: we've got to get right at this. are you with trump or desantissome because you've got to decide sooner or later. >> oh, man, you're just going to hit me right out the gate. [laughter] right now trump's the leader in the clubhouse. i mean, come on, this where we going? it's an embarrassment of riches in florida, let's first say that. i'mgoing to -- i'm going to tell you right now, the next president of the united states is going to be from florida. you've got to go with president trump until you see something else. stuart: do you think trump could beat desantis in the primaries? >> yeah, i do, actually. you've got to understand, florida was fantastic, but you also take a look at a lot of these states, states are doing different things. i think the electorate is really moving and shifting as we speak. so while everybody's tryin

ron desantis hates children, and why? because his florida allowed students in florida to start the school year with 8,000 teacher vacancies. donald trump is the only person who can get something like that to stick. is it going to be that? probably not. it is just an example. but desantis has never taken on donald trump. he was his acolyte. and then he governed adjacent to donald trump. but the one thing he has never done, ever, is confront the old man. >> whatever happens with donald trump, right, in 2024, david, and jen and katy, whether he will be the face of the party in the next election, and whether he will be defeated by desantis, he has already planted the seeds of what we are now seeing, right? this election denialism, this lie that has flourished in places across the country, including in arizona, including by the way, as he is now claiming in nevada, without evidence, by the way, we should note, after all of the backlash to the lie that he was delivering about 2020, the investigations, the lawsuits, et cetera, h

desantis had done. but when you see it all lined up, all the stuff that ron desantis has gotten accomplished as governor, you can understand why the number is so big where he beat charlie crist by 19 points. >> ainsley: why do you think he did so well in miami dade? >> steve: because i think florida freedom. i don't think you feel like you're walking in voting as a party. it's like you're voting how i feel as somebody living in florida and i think they like what he has done especially during the pandemic. >> ainsley: yeah, we also are going to have anna paulina luna on, an air force vet from pinellas county and she won there west of tampa, charlie crist's old seat when he decided to run for governor. she was endorsed by president trump and by ron desantis. >> brian: right. by the way maya flores did lose last night and lashed out at independents and republicans who didn't come out. >> ainsley: they changed her district. >> brian: and made it tough to do that so we see if she bounces back. carley shimkus

desantis is never mentioned but as the word god is said, you keep seeing these images of desantis. what do you -- what do you make of this? like i said, odd. i mean, it's uncomfortable. >> well, you know, i think if you're going to coin a phrase, you might say the ad is it is quite remarkable. one thing to be endorsed by liz cheney. it's another thing to be endorsed by god and i love the voice for those people who were old enough to remember, it sounds like pal ul harvey, the great radio announcer. i'm sure it will play to a certain audience. i'm sure a lot of christian evangelicals but to say god created a fighter over and over and to continue to show pictures of the governor ron desantis is as you say curious. >> it is amazing. i can't believe anybody would be comfortable about such a thing appearing about them on television but i suppose that is what it takes have to see that. >>> another big story following the war in ukraine and shredded shoes, clothing and bones. the search in ukraine to honor the dead. >> translator: it's important for the families, for us, for the country t

but i want to go to the desantis nu number. in florida, he was asked would you want desantis to run for president. these are people who know him. 72% said yes. so i think there is some momentum for desantis. he raised a ton of money. $200 million for his campaign. he has a lot of that still left on hand. he had a huge night compared to the republicans more generally and compared to trump more generally. so i think we may see this fight and i think donald trump is worried. >> wouldn't be surprised if he was a little worried. thank you. >> thank you. >> we will hear the attacks and nicknames. up next, i'm going to speak live with republican congressman and member of the january 6th committee, what role he believes the former president played in these midterm results and how a trump desantis showdown looks to him. >> plus, back live to florida. the state once again hit by a major storm. we'll take a look at the latest track. this is now tropical storm nicole, but it made landfall as a category 1 hurricane earlier this morning. t h

we'll see if desantis jumps in and gives it a go. his instincts are good. we'll see if republicans get on board. >> can i ask one more question. i know you're close to mitch mcconnell right now, he wanted to become senate majority leader. yesterday when he was asked what he thought about tuesday's results he said, i don't deal in feelings. >> that's accurate. he does not. he deals in reality. and dealing -- and just playing the hand he's dealt. but i will tell you, if you look at all of the polling, the cnn exit polling and the mood of the country, the way people feel about the economy. people don't love joe biden either. if we don't find a senate majority here, it's a travesty. all the indicators were there. the whole thing was there to be won and we didn't win it. >> mcconnell said candidate quality. >> absolutely. mitch tried to tell them. if you look at some of the races, it was laying there to be won and wasn't. we'll see if the party learns some lessons here, sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. >> there's also a doctor in the room. >> they say admiss

we don't know what ron desantis thinks about election denial. in 2020, ron desantis dabbled in election denial himself and talked about alternate electors, and he's talking about this stuff that costs republicans in the midterms, and he has to get to a place where if he is going to take on trump, he has to address that. will he disagree on trump with that, or agree with trump on that, and these are challenges that are ahead for desantis. in the meantime, he's happy to let donald trump flail. >> adrian, if he does announce tonight, and that's the expectation but you never know, right, what do you see as the biggest difference in your mind between trump the candidate in 2016, and trump the candidate in 2022? >> there's a couple things, chris. in 2016, even donald trump was surprised at how well he did in the primary, and his chest thumping mannerisms where he bullied other candidates onstage, and the republican voters liked that, and they like divisive and racist language and what not. i think this time around it's different because i think he kno

that's why desantis kind of punted that. in my opinion, desantis at this point is the de facto president of the united states. it doesn't say it on his desk there, but he is leading a free united states of america right now. i would also say that regardless if it's trump or desantis or larry elder or ted cruz, the democrats will be so banged up after these mid-terms it probably won't matter that much. >> martha: we'll see. one of the things that is really interesting to watch in florida, mark penn, is miami-dade county where it looks like there is a larger hispanic conservative-leaning vote. people said the cuban population was more conservative. other parts of the hispanic population are consistently blue democrat voters. what are you seeing, mark? >> i think both desantis and rubio have made kind of huge head way. a few years ago, it would have been unthinkable really that in fact the republicans would take miami-dade. it was the absolute strong point for democrats. so you have seen them make incredible progress with the l

desantis is riding his own red wave. second hour of varney getting started. ♪ stuart: liz peak is with us. the old guard versus the new generation. who comes out on top? >> it is up to the voters, primary battles, if desantis throws his hat into the ring as trump did last night they will have it out and voters will decide. to your question, it is diplomatic but also real. voters have to choose who is electable. to me that is the number one question. second question do you want to elect donald trump who can only run for four years in the white house. that is not long enough to get done what we need to get done in this country. it's not long enough to be important trump policies and do the other things donald trump wanted to do before he was ousted from office but to the question about 74 million voters i feel his support is being chipped away all the time and particularly because that 74 million people turned out before the attack on the capital on january 6th. a lot of us think the left is overstated what went on on ja

what are your thoughts of that assessment of ron desantis? how ron desantis has led florida? caller: good morning. i think the caller had it all wrong. ron desantis -- the republicans ground game in florida -- democrats -- host: you're going in and out we will try to fix that line if you want to stay on the line and we will return to talking about florida politics. let's head to nevada. the other race we have been focusing on that has yet to be called in the united states senate, the republican there at 49.4%, incumbent senator catherine cortez masto at 47.6%. joining us via zoom to talk about the latest from nevada is the deputy editor of the nevada current. good morning. thanks for joining us. guest: is 83% reporting -- host: it is 83% reporting. when will it be 100%? guest: not as quick as everyone would like. county officials have emphasized time and again they care more about getting it right than they care about media plantains being able to call the race. they are counting through the weekend and they should be done by saturday because there is a deadline for them. hos

that is where business and the economy cells. >> and desantis people don't remember pre-covid, desantis was a moderate governor, had approval ratings in the 60s. actually reached out to democrats on environmental issues. >> so the question is do you think that he stays in the position that he has been in the last 12 months or does he switch. and i think that there is a sense that he may switch. and that is good for the way at least the world of business thinks about things. >> andrew, thank you so much. and coming up next, jewel is back for another live performance and she will be joined by a very special guest. we'll be right back. guest we'll be right back. unwind after a long week of telling people how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. showtime. whoo! i'm on fire tonight. (limu squawks) yes! limu, you're a natural. we're not counting that. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ at adp, we understand business today looks nothing like it did yesterday. while it's more unpredictable, its possibilities are endle

i think desantis has a lot going for him politically. he's very effective at leading into the culture wars. democrats i think don't appreciate how effective he is at that but they'll find out he's aggressive. he doesn't apologize. all of that is really packaged in a way that is much more palatable. desantis comes off as much more combative which is an asset if you are challenging trump. >> mave, election deniers had a time. they wondered if that trend would spread abroad. election deniers, do they resonate in this election? >> no. we saw a clear rejection of election denialism. we were watching so closely a lot of the secretary of state races. the folks that will oversee the election counting in the next -- in 2024 but we still obviously don't know the results in nevada and arizona and it's so important because arizona is really just ground zero for that election denialism. the top four candidates on the ticket there, including kari lake who is the gop nominee for governor, have all -- all rose to power by echoing president trump's elect

#desantis 2024. okay, i said ron desantis is flying it. we don't know who is behind the banners but that's not ring-kissing behavior if it is coming from the desantis camp. and what's emerging here is a story line that the losses effectively, or the nonwins of election day, republicans, like ron desantis, are trying to peg that on donald trump. donald trump does not seem to be bothered by that. or at least the argument he's making is that they weren't really losses, but wins. do you have an understanding of how much the results of the election have bothered -- actually bothered trump behind closed doors? >> well, certainly, two things. one is he -- he is savvy about politics. he does understand winning and losing. and this was not a win for republicans, any way you cut it or what, you know, donald trump has said tonight. but what bothers him more than that, fundamentally, he doesn't care about the republican party. he's willing to burn it to the ground and recently became a member of until ron was president. what bothers him more is the re

governor desantis is not making remarks publicly. it will happen later this evening and sidestepped questions about what is happening with trump and his own plans for 2,024 but you talked about the split in the party. we will also hear about the issues these governors feel they can make progress on it new governors in office for the first time like sarah huckabee sanders of arkansas she just touched down a few minute ago, we will catch up with her. low bob lombardo, whether they are all playing friendly or will be distracted by what is happening down the road a little later on. stuart: some agreement among republicans. there is your headline. jonathan morris joins me now. governor desantis won in a landslide. why did he win so big? >> talking about principles. i go directly to principles. policy ends up. we have a messenger in desantis, anybody who knows him personally, he's not a charismatic guy but he's a strong leader, a strong operator manager and principles even in tough times when government was saying we need to lockdown he sa

he talked about trump, desantis and nikki haley. let's talk about desantis. you wrote recently that the president needs to not use the strategy he used against jeb bush towards ron desantis. guest: one of the big things that broke trump out of the pack is that he made jeb bush a foil of his. he encouraged him to go after him in debates. it reinforced a lot of what trump was saying about the republican establishment in week, not effective fighters, not representative of the base. bush represented dynastic politics, a point of view on immigration that was not popular with the base at that time, that was associated with failures in iraq. trump was trying to differentiate himself from that and bush was past his prime. bush, at one point, jeb bush, many thought he would eat president rather than his brother. that did not happen, largely because he did not win in florida in 1994. george w was by 1999 a two-term governor and his brother was not , but jeb bush had been out of office, was resting on the campaign trail and was a good punching bag for trump. not sure th

how will ron desantis respond? >> you do see a shift happening in the voices, the trumpeters, if i may say, if they're in the media or republican leaders, they seem to be slowly moving away, some of them. >> you could predict this chapter over the last six years that as soon as it became convenient for republicans to discard trump they would, and i think it's very important that we recognize, they are not moving on from trump out of conviction. they had opportunities to do that when he was separating families at the border, when he was attacking our democratic institutions, when he was doing all of those things, they could have left trump then, but they didn't. >> convenience. >> this is the ultimate political behavior of republican leaders right now. >> joining us now, contributing writer to "the atlantic," peter waner, he has a piece that will show us the other side of this. "more maga than ever" you write a bad midterm election is unlikely to break trump's grip on the party. why? because it's hard to overstate h

desantis did. if you disagree with trump's views on policy, you could at least be enlightened by the fact that he could have done more as president had he bothered to learn how government worked. ron desantis will have -- ron desantis will be a much more better president. regardless of the outlook on views on policy, the execution would be much stronger and much more affect under president desantis. >> the question on latinos, was that the question? the one thing the last two elections have showed, we cannot talk about the latino population. we have to talk about cubans and venezuelans in florida. we have to talk about mexicans in california and texas and a variety of other south americans. >> young and old. >> and you have to talk about young and old, male and female. we are about to publish a piece maybe this afternoon about a really in-depth piece about one of our colleagues on the latino vote. it is a fascinating piece and i encourage you all to have a look at it once we finish and we send jord

desantis runs in 2024, what happens? >> i don't, know that's going to be a good question, and it will be up to the american people to decide. >> you're going to be one of those deciders though, does that put you in a weird spot? deciding between two people you. like >> it's going to be, tough i'll be honest with you. because we love trump and we love rhonda santas. personally, i'm hoping we get four more years of donald trump and eight years of desantis. >> so, wait, is what you think desantis should do? >> absolutely. >> yasmin, what i've been struck by over the course of the last weekend spent in florida, frankly the course of the last year and a half since trump has left the white house and i've been talking with republican voters, many of them have echoed what voters here on the ground have told me. that they don't want to choose potentially between desantis and trump in a 2024 republican primary. but it seems, at least days before trump is going to potentially make his own announcement about running again, that that

desantis almost lost. but they are on the same team, i promise you, that i will -- >> how will that manifest itself? >> they have been out there campaigning for the same candidates, you have ron desantis, campaigning for i believe, well certainly doug in pennsylvania. >> and joe o'day. >> it you know that causes heart burn. >> we'll talk with shannon bream, tracking turn out in a new way, with a preview how this election night voter analysis will work. >> we're excited to use our new survey approach this election. fox news voter analysis combined a survey of more than 100,000 voters with real-time vote data, we can understand who voteed and why. we interview voters on cell phones and land lines and on-line october 31 to end of voting on eel election day, provided a full profile of american voters that include tens of millions who vote early, by mail or not rip represented in the in-person poll, why are they supporting a particular candidate, that is key. is inflation most important factor in their voting d

we remember the keys he desantis at where she talked about desantis as a father, as a man who supported through breast-cancer and paul harvey at about on the eighth-day god created a fighter who could smile at the children and say, you get to go back to school. you have someone fighting for you behind the scenes. that is the form left for success for the gop. reagan that sunny optimism. i don't know who brings that. desantis, trump. glenn youngkin, there's going to be an array of choices. that needs to be for mind. >> emily: congressman, we have a preview of government -- governor desantis responding to those in the 10 attacks. we will get your thoughts on the other side. >> governor desantis: one of the things i have learned is when you are leading, when you are getting things done, you take incoming fire. that is just her nature of it. all of that is just noise and what matters is are you leading, are you getting in front of issues? are you delivering results for people and are you standing up for folks? and if you do that, that meant that stuff matters and that is what we have done.

but desantis has a story to tell. i think the story he and his team will tell republicans is look what happened in the oasis of florida. i can do that for the country. a lot a b.s. but a lot of stories to tell. donald trump licking wounds in mar-a-lago. >> can comes down to numbers too too, willie. talking about all the people that moved into florida, during covid, pre and post-covid. in 2018 when desantis almost lost, democrats had about a 250,000 registration advantage. right? this election, republicans for the first time went ahead and didn't just go ahead by a couple votes. republicans, there are about 350,000 more republicans than democrats. like a 500,000 it 600,000 vote registration swing. so just all of the trend lines are massive there, and by the way, it's -- that's what makes it so hard to come back. >> true for sure and also in desantis's case, voters liked the way he handled covid. opening schools quicker, and handled hurricane ian a couple months ago. and victory speech, a lot about a fight against wokis

and he smeared desantis. e threatening to reveal unflattering personal information if he runs for president. conservatives, former allies and advisers are questioning his position in the republican party. they don't want the party to become, quote, a personality cult. republican politics is now down to desantis versus trump. it'll be messy, but the changing of the forward at the gop has surely begun. second hour of "varney" just getting started. ♪ ♪ stuart: vatia, welcome back. good to see you again. i want to quote your op-ed. it reads: ron desantis is the new champion of trumpism. there you have it on your screen. what do you mean by trump theism, and how does it relate to desantis. >> >> first of all, i want to make sure the viewers have seen your cuff links, because they're absolutely beautiful. stuart: yes. they're american flag cuff links, and i've been wearing them every day since i became a citizen. >> they're absolutely beautiful. stuart: thank you very much. this is quite a show -- [laughter] la

>> ron desantis. >> sorry, rick. ron desantis. >> the governor of florida. >> yes, someone who won overwhelmingly, double digits, and lots of republicans are now talking about as the heir apparent. so we don't know how that's going to turn out. we don't know what donald trump's future holds right now, but i would have to say that ron desantis is somebody who rises above the pack after this election. >> let's get more reaction. this is major breaking news. we have just projected that senator catherine cortez masto will be reelected, defeating the challenger, adam laxalt. as a result we have now projected that the democrats will maintain their majority in the united states senate. ashley alison is joining us right now. let me get your reaction first, ashley. >> i'm excited for our country. i think americans showed up. if there was ever a question whether your vote mattered, these tight races tell you that every single vote matters. i'm so proud of young people. i'm proud of my generation, the millennials who showed up,

maybe desantis. we'll be able to to to walk through. but it is a multi kennedy race. all bets are off. >> so michael, you mentioned the fbi potential fbi indictment. he's facing a number of cases civil and criminal of new york and other how those running for president help us clearly understand. in layman's terms, how running for president protects him in these cases. >> well, it really doesn't protect him its board. we're 2 years out from. but if from november 2024, right. and they have and the justice department has a policy of no, it dealing doing prosecutions or indictments that could have a bearing on an election. well, he's thinking that if he declares now he started the election. i think i think we're ways we saw from that the primaries and a new era. never. heard yet. there's no real active campaign by filing the paperwork with the ftc by raising money by by doing the announcer tonight. he's trying to create the appearance of it and get active followers to say what they come after me. it's al

ron desantis made such in roads to the latino community. flipped a lot of previous democratic strongholds. fox news, i think they are playing to where their audience is and to the extent that they are seeing where the trend lines are going, it's maybe not surprising and that's good news for ron desantis. >> if we consider florida to be a bit of an anomaly in those respects, do you think that the story of the mid-terms is one of the democrats doing better than expected? obviously for an incumbent governor, first term, this really isn't bad at all, or the republicans under performing? >> i think it's the republicans. the reason i say that is typically in a mid-term election the president in power in the majority party is not going to do as well. you have just so many counter veiling pressures that looked like they were going against democrats. highest inflation in four decades. >> yeah. >> you had a surge of immigration at the u.s./mexico border. all of these kinds of problems. you would have thought joe biden would have had a really bad nigh

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some republicans did better than ron desantis. so, it is like to me when the media says on the local florida media that you have a white suburban educator voter clause ron desantis, i do not understand when they say they want to pick ron desantis for republicans. why would they push trump to ron desantis when it sounds like they are pretty much the same. guest: michael, i think it is very interesting. there is a wing of the republican party that wants to get rid of trump. they have come cited the way to do it is we really need to elevate one candidate in particular to make it a one-on-one match. they have a ron desantis. you can see that coming over the way over the last five to six months. he got some big numbers. the race was not expected to be that close. in the end, voters are going to decide. in 1980 41 a lot of the media was anointing john glenn was going to be the democrat, he did not get out of new hampshire. i would just think, beware of candidates that are peaking 18 months before the first primary vote is cast. i think

desantis has made it harder. he even created his own election police and arrested floridians -- you can't make this up -- arrested floridians who were allowed to register by the voter -- by his own administration. it is about intimidation. it is about not supporting democracy. that is who he is. he is a bully. you got that right. but floridians do not scare easy, ron, and we will vote. we will defeat you next tuesday. [cheering] i feel you. i feel you. when i was your governor, property insurance premiums went down. under desantis, they are among the highest in america and he hasn't done anything about it. when i was your governor we stopped increases in utility bills. under desantis, bills are skyrocketing. skyrocketed. florida power and light, duke energy, all of them. every single rate increase they have asked for during the dissent this administration, he has said yes. every time. when i was your governor, i brought us together and we united florida. we brought florida together. i try to live by what is calle

. >> john: and speaking of maga, trump said what's the big deal with desantis guy, now that the election is over and everything went quite well, shouldn't it be said in 2020 i got 1.1 million more votes in florida than desantis got this year, 5.7 million to 4.6 million.

desantis, if trump had carried himself the way desantis carried himself during the hurricane he would still be president today. >> sandra: interesting analysis. new york post cover this morning, young gop star, desantis victory. headline, defuture. and writing about the desantis tsunami, nearly 20-points over charlie crist, may launch the republican's campaign for the white house. the governor won nearly everywhere in the state and notably in democratic strongholds. it was a remarkable performance, fast forward 2024. i mean, here we go, day after midterm elections. i mean, we are already looking at what this could look like. >> it's a big issue, and the republicans need to look at this election and do some intro, and voters gave us a great win in florida re-electing desantis, and you need a one vote majority to stop all the spending. biden's agenda, an it will dollar, all democrat spending bill is gone, finished, we can stop the march of socialism, and a wake-up call and realize that a lot of these senate races were winnable races that we gave up because we nominated candidates whose

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florida where ron desantis 1, 7 .8 murder rate. georgia 10.5 and finally the state i used to live in with my cajun boyfriend with the murder capital of america louisiana with a 19.9 rate in mississippi 20.5. third wave tells us that in 2020 the per capita murder rate was 40% higher in states won by donald trump rather than those one by joe biden. eight of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for republican presidential nominees in every election this century. thank goodness nancy pelosi's husband live in san francisco. democrats have to vote always. we have to vote a straight democratic ticket in order to save us from the worst crime which is murder. you don't recover from murder. host: is the red state murder problem, is that the report you are referring to the third wave report you are referring to? this is carla in missouri, and independent. caller: good morning john. i am 90 years old and i remember elections clear back to the second term of franklin roosevelt and i have to tell you . people say the america

i thought mike pompeo did the same thing in praising ron desantis. they might be running against each other. there is just no reason to fight now. >> will: no. i agree. >> brian: coming up straight ahead, come in or get out. elon musk ultimatum to twitter employees return to work. army vernco host pete hegseth who looks exactly like that shares his message for veterans day. >> ainsley: that's not a dom doppelganger? plus, does brian have what it takes to keep up with rockie? >> brian: just one second. bill will why did you do that? >> brian: we saw it in a movie once. >> ainsley: we will ask the man himself sylvester stallone is going to join us live. >> brian: right. i hope he is up. ♪ (burke) deep-sea driving, i see... (customer) something like that... (burke) well, here's something else: with your farmer's policy perk, new car replacement, you can get a new one. (customer) that is something else. (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ voltaren. the joy of mo

>> trump is just gearing up to take on desantis. he sees desantis as somebody he created. in fact, when desantis ran the first time, he would not have won without trump. but desantis has gone his own way, and i think that really bothers trump. >> this flirtation with ron desantis as the heir apparent to donald trump has been going on for about a year now. and it's clear that the desantis camp has been listening. they are doing and engaging in things that look as though he's laying the foundation for a presidential run and to potentially challenge donald trump. >> reporter: in georgia, voters easily re-elected republican governor brian kemp, who stood up to trump when the former president questioned georgias 2020 election results. but the state's voters will be forced back to the polls in next month's senate runoff. >> i remain as committed to this work as i have ever been. and i look forward to continuing on that journey together over the next six years. >> i'ma tell you right now, i'm like ricky bobby. i don't come to lose. and i told you, he's going to be tough to beat.

that's going to depend on whether somebody like ron desantis runs. i think way o much weight is being put on ron desantis as a -- as the trump stopper. i don't think we have any clue yet what he will look like nationally if he runs. >> why do you think there is so much fanfare around the possibility of ron desantis as being the person who can stop donald trump? >> i think it's some combination of wish-casting, honestly. i think that's a big piece of it, along with the fact that he does articulate, you know, some of trump's combativeness and a lot of his culture-war sensibility and does it in a way that's pretty unapologetic, and so i think that's a lot of it. >> a piece of your reporting in the book points out that -- what donald trump actually thinks of ron desantis. and, you know, what is so clear is that donald trump has this reptilian sense of being able to sense somebody's weakness and then exploit it. he did this with "lying ted cruz," with "little marco." >> "low energy jeb." >> "low energy jeb," right? so we got a glimmer of what the criticis

desantis weigh in 25 years, starting on tuesday. so that's the kind of state that you can point to a battleground state. >> [inaudible] monday, thank you so much. quick programming note. tuesday, msnbc live covering midterm elections. which will maddow [inaudible] need coverage and [inaudible] both accounted. election it begins tuesday, 6 pm, streaming live on peacock. coming up, some republicans [inaudible] choosing crime statistics. for a political win. the bigger problem, any of these ads are using racist words and imagery to make [inaudible] how that can impact tuesday's vote. even if symptoms feel mild, these factors can increase your risk of covid-19 turning severe. so, if you're at high risk and test positive, don't wait. ask your healthcare provider right away if an authorized oral treatment is right for you. (vo) with their verizon private 5g network, associated british ports can now ask your healthcare provider right away precisely orchestrate nearly 600,000 vehicles passing through their uk port every year. don't just con

they love ron desantis. with everything that's going on this country, and i hope ron desantis hears this from a democrat, and don't cut me off, please. [laughter] i want him instead of imitating the former guy trump, start reading something on ronald reagan and bring this country back together. one thing we always had in this country, whether a democratic president one or a republican president won, we always had a president that cared about everybody in the country. and that's what the republicans aren't giving us. this is why they lost. and they lost the suburban woman with roe v. wade. if they don't get their act together, they are going to lose again. women are not going to give up their autonomy of their bodies. they are not going to do it. their wives are voting against them. that's why we had all these split tickets. host: i want to come back to you saying you are a stone cold liberal, as you describe yourself. would you vote for ron desantis if he ran in 2024? caller: listen, this guy is a harvard gr