and raise of and a legit white genocide in south africa. what gain do you see him getting from that? thank you original and then i think we see once again donald trump has a problem with the truth infected specific and time and he's supposed to him. he also spoke office full stop know of a watch inside in south africa. and it was very painful for us in south africa to see how he disrespected present. so around a pause, a waiting, a few weeks ago, he had to really rolled off the red carpet for a. and the data of a, a parte to israel is really society, which is actually administering a real genocide and to see a false videos of south africa. it was, it was disturbing because when mason you all went to his office, the oval office, he took place in real time, the genocide that is taking place in gaza. he didn't embarrass the president, would be to tell you what to do. but to trump, in his characteristic style shows disrespect for african leaders, they'll treat their teachers as scituate citizens. each a need to of a potted israel, accused of re

the 1st being a consent or an attack on south africa's black economic empowerment flows, the 2nd being allegations of lead theft. and the 3rd being this issue of an image of genocide involving the offer kind of population. these 3 topics of africa is expected to one to address and address very strongly with a view of reaching some kind of a consensus with the us and moving forward with beta trade relations. often today's meeting, the united states government is alleging the genocide. we know that you went out to find out what effort connor's make of this. um, so let's take a listen to see what they say. this memorial displays the names of some, 2800 farm is black and white killed in south africa since the 1970s. it's a permanent feature, non polar, so best with his largest agricultural expo and many who attend come to pay their respects to the phone and colleagues. farm media is one of the key reasons that us president donald trump has given offered cotton is refugee status. the 1st group seen here arrived in the us last week. trump has gone so far as to argue that farm . it is our 10

the actions in south africa. the president made it clear that in south africa the victims of unjust racial discrimination would be welcome to come to the united states. they are delivering on that promise. the deputy secretary and i just spoke and they tell quite harrowing stories of the violence that they face in south africa. i would not regress by the authorities. the application of the law. the united states is we are proud to say. standing for equal justice and the fair and impartial application of the law. not experiencing that and to the contrary experiencing violence and really fearing for their lives beating south africa. able to be subject to very serious agree just targeted threats. the journey of the united states other sporting events that the american people are welcoming and generous people and we -underscore the importance into the united states which is one of the very important factors that we look to and refugees. and the resettlement for these folks who are in south africa and we are sending a

i'll be happy to work closely with any of the tour operators that are willing to sell destination south africaup of developing countries was one of the participants at the third iran africa economic conference. two actually uh two of our member states uh are also members of from africa uh nigeria and uh and uh and egypt and i'm happy to note that those two member states actually participated in in this in this summit today uh so which for me gives me it gives me joy as a nigerian and as an african to see that iran is uh you interested prepared and ready to to invest and to explore the the african african uh african market so that gives us a lot of joy and that's part of uh objectives. for which our organization uh was established about 28 years ago is to promote trade and economic uh cooperation, so i'm happy to see one of our member states you know venturing into into africa, yes and what opportunities exists uh having visited iran and uh maybe seen the potentials uh of this country, what opportunities exist for d8 countries, particularly the countries that are african members of the d8, okay

this time it was the south african leader, president ramaphosa, insisting that white farmers in south africams of genocide. suggesting -- a suggestion that has been widely discredited. a group of more than 50 white south african farmers arrived in the united states as refugees, welcomed in by the trump administration. today's meeting started off cordially enough but soon president trump told his staff to dim the lights and play a video to the south african leader which he said verified his claims about the killing of white farmers. here is some of that exchange starting with cyril ramaphosa talking about the matter with the u.s. president. president ramaphosa: it will take him listening to their stories, their perspective. that is the answer to your question. president trump: wait. we have thousands of stories. we have documentaries, we have news stories, is natalie here to turn that on? i could show you a couple of things. it has to be responded to. let me see the articles, turn the lights down and just put this on, it is right behind you. [video clip] >> we require no permission from you,

but what is the effect in south africa? do you know that the, the highest number of murder victims, a blick band, and that just makes sense way, majority, black country, black men i, i'm the majority and there's a lot of violence that is to the majority of fund of murder, and it's up to committed people, i'm a black mean majority of rates people of black women. why? because of the inequality because of a positive spatial planning blip, people and foster removals, they typically live far away from economic activity. they take like 23 tests. these are buses to get to work. so often they are walking in the streets, it is still dark, the sun hasn't come out. and this high rate, in cases where black women live. so the current situation in south africa is not something that the south african government should be proud of. so i'm a pause that has a lot to on site as far as that is concerned. but it is crime based on social economic needs based on in the quality, based on such a high use employment with those outside looking in and

but south africa during this period.hey tell the story of the relationship between south africa and the zionist regime at the height of apartheid. this document is from 1976. they really needed these things and they needed them very urgently. they needed so 6 munitions systems 130 mm guns were purchased from the israeli regime for £2.7 million. the israeli regime was generally a major supplier of ammunition to the apartheid government. since the mid- 1970s, south africa had been fighting to overthrow the leftist government of newly independent angola . in 1976 , the then south african prime minister john forster visited the occupied territories. at that time , the two sides were said to be negotiating arms deals. if you look at the volume of arms purchased, something like a billion dollars was spent by the the apartheid government of south africa was bought by the zionist regime. that means a lot of money has flowed into the israeli economy. just when it needed it. this economic interaction had another consequence and ac

by the 1980s , south africa was economically and culturally isolated.y a few countries , including britain and the united states , supported the apartheid regime. adding these economic sanctions to the negotiations will not help. it will only make things worse. but south africa had another safe partner during this period of isolation: the zionist regime. we are going to meet a researcher of economic crimes and human rights violations. we have a series of documents that have come from various archives. different parts of the story of the relationship between south africa and the zionist regime are at their peak. they tell the story of the apartheid era. this document is from 1976. they really needed these things and they needed them very urgently. so they bought 130mm ammunition systems from the zionist regime for £2.7 million . the zionist regime was generally a major supplier of ammunition to the apartheid government. since the mid-1990s , south africa was fighting to overthrow the leftist government of newly independent angola. in 1976 , the then sout

and they said he's in south africa. i said, you know, we were, we were lucky because of the great most in manila we charge us out to create peace to make so we were inputting some of those lessons. and i specifically mentioned to him that this is how the us and my data to to that when you want us to have peace in the country, do it on an unconditional basis and sit down and show a truth. yes, i get to unfortunately we could say that that particular partisan is, is the only thing that the to need is had in common in this joint appearance. but of course, when the end of the conversation ended as president trump was aust a few questions about what she wanted to me, of course that you do. and she did end up saying that she wasn't so raw that he hadn't made up his mind. but with the ease of genocide in south africa, and that will be part of those groups that will be taking her thoughts between the 2 countries. and she did end up seeing that she is just trying to save lives. following the frank exchange in new for all of us,

trump confronted him about the alleged killings of white farmers in south africa. the of meeting came a week after a group of africana south africans arrived in the u.s. who had been granted refugee status by the white house. what started as a cordial meeting turned 10ths after mr. trump asked his staff to play a video of old clips of inflammatory speeches by some south african politicians that have been circulating on social media. they also played a clip showing white crosses that the us president used in a bid to reinforce his claims of genocide against white farmers. in response, mr. ramaposa repeatedly denied these claims. turn the lights down and just put this on, it's right behind you. death, death, death, horrible death, death, i don't know, to pick anyone white south africans are fleing because of the violence and racist laws, which is allowed to exist in terms of our constitution, but you do allow them to take land, no, no, no, no, and then when they take the land they kill the white farmer and when they kill the white farmer nothing happens to them? no, t

how do you see iran's role in fostering economic partnership with south africa?hatever the needs of iranian inranian consumers are. i think it's important for us to understand what the needs are and then we take care. service the needs of each other. do you expect any agreement from this summit? i think for me in the tourism sector, if i can be able to engage with tourism partners here in in iran that are willing to send tour. to south africa, we'd be happy to service in support them, i'll be happy to work closely with any of the two operators that are willing to sell destination south africa. today, a multipolar world is rapidly evolving and the role of africa can no longer be ignored. multipola world promotes equality and inclusiveness and africa can play a major role in this process. the secretary general of the d8 group of developing countries was one of the participants of the for run africa economic conference, two, actually two of our member states are also members of from africa uh namely nigeria and and and egypt and i'm happy to note that these two memb

a white minority group in south africa, semirigid oh colonial settlers of south africa that ended upf the interior as rugged individualists and farmers. and also the group that largely accumulated a lot of wealth and political power over time at at one of the champions for sometimes apartheid it. but since then they have faced discrimination and violence back home. the relocation comes after president trump signed an executive order in february. the accused south africa black led government on racial discrimination which they have denied it. good to have you on the program to once again talk about the story. i would love to start with what president trump has to say. he said these people are suffering from land confiscation confiscation to, discrimination, and genocide. tell me about what is happily good south africa if that is an accurate description. >> of those three terms genocide might be a bit premature but when you look at the statements of leading south african politicians notably julius malanda who held a rally on south africa's human rights day in march and proclaim to kill

even confidence in south africa. but also it seems as if trump is unrelenting in terms of attacking south africa on a number of issues. the analysts we spoke to in recent days, and it's a number of them say that it appears as if south africa is on the back foot when it comes to dealing with the united states and was caught by surprise in terms of the response from donald trump. so it's lucky that drum a poor, so would want to kind of correct that relationship and also correct a lot of the information that stems from the united states, specifically from donald trump. and one of these up advises, it appears that you learn most who is south african born around issues like what is being called a genocide of white people. all of the con, the, of the kind of community in south africa, which is an entirely inaccurate of it simply isn't happening. so i think t is reset and the relationship dealing with the carpet. it's a nomic relationship as well as a dealing with this issue of missed information. okay, for me to my that i'

i'll be happy to work closely with any of the two operators that are willing to sell destination south africa. today, a multipolar world is rapidly evolving. and the role of africa can no longer be ignored, multipolar world promotes equality and inclusiveness and africa can play a major role in this process, the secretary j general of the dh group of developing countries was one of the participants at the third iran africa economic conference. two actually uh two of our member states uh are also members of from africa uh namely nigeria and and and egypt and i'm happy to note that these two member states actually participated in this in this summit today uh so which for me gives me it gives me joy as a nigerian. and as an african, yeah, to see that iran is uh, interested, prepared and ready to to invest and to explore the the african, african, african market, so that gives us a lot of joy, and that's part of uh objectives, for which our organization uh was established about 28 years ago, is to promote trade and economic uh cooperation, so i'm happy to see one of our member states you know vent

well, the us president also suggested australia was being inundated by farmers fleeing south africa. is that the case? that's absolutely not true. and - we do have a lot of south africans coming to australia, black, white and asian, and have over many years and they have a range of reasons for coming. farmers are a fairly small number in that group. they're mostly people with skills from cities and they've really strengthened our relationship with south africa and contribute significantly to australia. but they have not come as refugees and there are not large numbers of farmers them. and how do you think president ramaphosa handled the white house meeting? and how would you describe the state of play when it comes to the relationship between the us and south africa? well, i think he handled it in a very dignified way, and i think president mandela would have been proud of him. i mean cyril ramaphosa was always one of the people he favoured to become president of south africa and, of course, at this moment he's also running a coalition government with a predominantly white-supported p

and they said he's in south africa. i said, you know, we were, we were lucky because of the greatness and mendera which helped us out to create peace. so we went inputting some of those lessons and specifically mentioned to him that this is how the us and my data told us that when you want us to have in peace country do it on an unconditional basis and sit down and show yes, i guess unfortunately, we could say that that particular partisan is, is the only thing that the to need is had in common in this joint appearance. but of course, when the end of the conversation ended, the president, trump was austin. a few questions of, of what she wanted to level. so to do. and she did end up saying that she wasn't so raw that he hadn't made up his mind about with the, is a genocide, is that africa? and that will be part of those folks that will be taking part between the 2 countries. and she did end up seeing that she is just trying to save lives. well, following the frank exchange in the oval office, we had one of our own earli

in south africa and how consequential is it for south africa? >> thank you.s been troubled for quite some time. i think we could trace it back to the beginning of the war between russia and ukraine. when south africa didn't unequivocally condemn russia's invasion at the time with the u.s. administration saws a big problem. and it's part of the bricks economic grouping, so that means it's quite close to both russia and now iran, which has joined bricks, so that's also problematic. i think the biggest problem was early last year when south africa filed a genocide case against israel and the international court of justice. from what i'm hearing on what we are reporting, that is a big problem for the u.s. and they are quite angry about it. lizzy: so what has president trump also been saying about afrikaans and why has that been such an important issue for him? >> it has become a pretty divisive issue in south africa because earlier this year president trump said south africa was seizing the land of -- white farmers without compensation and there was a genocide ag

this is in south africa. professor breakfast, thank you for your time on this. let's begin with the fact that this is the first one-on-one face to face meeting. between president trump and an african leader, president ramaposa, how do you think this meeting was secured? uh, first of all, south africa is participating in these negotiations on the back foot largely because america has nothing to lose to be honest, because it has the biggest economy. um, so south africa has everything to lose, given the fact that if it is kicked out of ibly uh... agoa that will have national consequences which will hit hard on its people, so south africa should try its level best to attack all the problems hard but be soft on the personalities which are involved here - so the they should try to um gravitate of towards finding a win-win situation uh and if be try to compromise on some of its positions, i think the elephant in the room for me, buse i was going to ask you about this meeting coming days after you know the us welcomed a group of white africaners and granted them refugee

and south africa. president trump at one point calling for the lights to be dimmed and playing a video, and then showing a stack of papers that he said were articles proving a white genocide. the president of south africa denying the unsubstantiated claims, at one point saying to president trump, i'm sorry i don't have a plane to give you. here's mary bruce. >> reporter: tonight, an extraordinary scene in the oval office. president trump ambushing the president of south africa with false claims the nation is engaged in genocide against white farmers. the president said he came to the white house to discuss trade. >> we are essentially here to reset the relationship between the united states and south africa. >> reporter: but trump had other ideas. >> a lot of people are very concerned with regard to south africa, and that's really the purpose of the meeting. >> reporter: the president insists white south african formers are being persecuted and murdered on a mass scale. unproven claims that have been a

with reaction from south africa. of these talks are lucky. the most important discussions that sold african presidents, what i'm up with, so we'll have with a foreign head of state during his presidency the us. and so the africa have had very strange relations in recent months. and there are a number of issues that have to be dealt with to some extent, the south african president, silver mobile. so at the sound of donald trump, initially during the, the public portion of the tubes. and it'd be towards, given a sum of what donald trump has said and done in the past, those to have to look so far, but quite cordial. but once donald trump played a video that was used to justify a allegations of a genocide of white people in south africa, we saw so the african president sued him up, also become quite frustrated. but he did come to those allegations and also contextualize them. the issue of the white genocide in south africa is one that does have the attention of many. so the africans because those claims us simply not true. there is no white genoci

there is no white genocide in south africa and we heard from the president. we also heard from members of east integration, we include your hon the rupert, who is a but you nate and also friend of donald trump. we also heard from the minister of agriculture, john student hasan, both of them saying there wasn't a genocide in south africa. and the so to me was an issue of crime. the talks that will continue between the us president and silver. i'm a poor, so we'll likely continue to deal with those claims be made by donald trump with what we've seen in the last couple of weeks. the, the us receive for 49, what they call refugees from south africa, of chicago. people who say that they have flared south africa because of those type of threats and, and the fields that they have the tulips are likely to continue on that issue. but also the issue of trade. the united states is a south africa's largest trading partner off to a china, and it's also had terrorist imposed against it all up to 50 percent. and those have been suspended for the time being, but they certain

on a farm in south africa meant death.l me about that, why is such a presumption? >> it is common knowledge. you can talk to any farmer and they will tell you every single one knows multiple farmers be brutally executed, tortured to death, card their children tortured to death. it is the worst kind of killings. when politicians sing songs about kill the farmer, you know they are targeting you. you can talk to any farmer in south africa just ask them about the security measures they have been placed, you will be shocked. they are the most prepared people on earth for attack. we know we are targeted to, we we will be killed. >> will: the south african present today almost dismissed your experience and what you described as a criminality, said we do not stand for criminality cabot's criminality. still there are government policies as mentioned by trump that allow a population, first politicians who inflame the population, but also policies not allowing them to confiscate your form. >> yes, expropriation was passed last year,

we don't know their race because south south africa doesn't release statistics based on race. what i heard from the south african leaders today was there is too much violence, there is too much murder. but it's not just whites, it's also blacks. in fact, it's mostly blacks who are the victims of this. and one of the clips that donald trump that president trump played was some very radical anti-white leaders. african. africans not so. i'm so used to saying african american, african black leaders saying horribly anti-white things. and the minister of agriculture, who is white and from an opposition party from the president, said the whole reason we have this unity government is to keep, i'm paraphrasing, crazy people like that out of the government. >> yes. and because the suggestion or impression president trump was trying to create is that this is what happens in south africa. this is the kind of language that people use to address even white people. and president cyril ramaphosa tried to explain that that is a member of an opposition party. and in fact, i have come out to even

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south africa says the claims are unfounded. the foreign ministry said it is most regretable that it appears that the re settlement of south africans to the united states under the guise of being refugees, is entirely politically motivated and designed to question. south africa's constitutional democracy. relations between the 2 countries have been deteriorating since you as president donald trump returned to the white house with his powerful south african born advisor e, long musk. in february, trump accused south african of confiscating land, echoing comments that most has made about alleged racial discrimination in his homeland. earlier this year, hundreds of white south africans rallied outside the us embassy in pretoria to show their support for drug and his decision to cut a to south africa's government is now under self advocacy apartheid system which was in place until 1994. the minority white population depressed the majority, black population, were treated as 2nd class citizens. 3 decades after apartheid ended, some whi

south africa says the claims are unfounded. the foreign ministry said it is most regretable that it appears that the re settlement of south africans to the united states under the guise of being refugees is entirely politically motivated and designed to question south africa gives constitutional democracy. relations between the 2 countries have been deteriorating since you as president donald trump returned to the white house with his powerful south african born adviser, 11 musk. in february, trump accused south africa of confiscating land echoing comments that boss has made about alleged racial discrimination in his homeland. earlier this year, hundreds of white south africans rallied outside the us embassy in pretoria to show their support for tron. and his decision to cut a to south africa's government is now under self advocates apartheid system which was in place until 1994. the minority white population depressed the majority, black population, were treated as 2nd class citizens. 3 decades after apartheid ended, some white

of white south africans in south africa. there have been gruesome killings of white farmers, individual cases of that. but it's a systemic. the police data shows that right now that white south africans are not killed at a higher rate than any other south african. there is a broad crime problem in south africa that is very different than a claim of genocide. then there's the issue of land. well, under apartheid, you know, that apartheid led government made it very, very difficult, almost impossible for black people to own farmland. so now you've seen this law passed earlier this year by the south african government that, yes, would take land, but it's subject to judicial review as well. and it has to be in the public interest. so there's a lengthy process. it's not just like you're confiscating land as well. that nuance also has not been articulated by president trump here. so you have these two issues, these two false claims. and this meeting, in a way, was the culmination of for years now, these these lobbyists of these afr

celsius. now to africa, we will see some very heavy rain pushing in across the western side of south africa and behind that, a quite significant cool down, so temperatures in cape town only getting to 15 degrees on tuesday afternoon, still quite hot for some parts of north africa, 38 as the high in tripoly and still rather windy across parts of the arabian peninsula, particularly across saudi arabia, so some blowing dust and sand, temperatures there in riad up to 43 degrees. the southwest monsoon has now arrived across sri lanka, somewhat ahead of the normal schedule, but even before the arrival of the monsoon, some very heavy rain for the west coast of india, mumbai, down through goa into kerala, the risk of flooding as we go through this... week, more very heavy downpours and thunderstorms affecting the south of china, again there is the risk of flooding here across the southeast of asia, through parts of vietnam, cambodia, laos, thailand, down into malaysia, singapore, indonesia and the philippines the usual story, some very heavy downpors of rain, some haity sunshine in between, an onsh

but south africa during this period of isolation. there are various stories of south africa's relationship with the zionist regime at the height of apartheid. this document is from 1976. they really needed these things and they needed them very urgently. so they bought six 130mm ammunition systems from the zionist regime for £27 million . the zionist regime was generally a major supplier of ammunition to governments from south africa at war in the mid-1970s to the leftist government of angola which has just in 1976 , south african prime minister john forster traveled to the occupied territories . at that time, it is said that the two sides were negotiating arms deals. if you look at the volume of arms purchased from the south african government in the 1970s and 1980s, about a billion dollars was purchased from the zionist regime, which means that a large amount of money has flowed into the israeli economy just when it needed it . this economic interaction also had another consequence and achievement: the joint creation of weapons tec

case uh by south africa. uh, its indicating that to israel is committing genocide and palestine is one of the, the policy differences that the 200 trees don't see eye to eye on. and then you have the issue of, of south africa's relationship with iran, a country that the united states, uh, and its position is that it's a terrorist country. and then you have the issue of, of, of mt. and that has subsidiary and iran. and, and miss. and present from a poster, a pointing as especially unfortunately, united states, a gentleman who is a board member of m t n. so there are a lot of different policy areas that the 2 countries don't agree on. but i think this is the step a step in the right direction. and i'm happy that this discussion took place because there are american businesses that benefit greatly from this relationship that generate a great deal of revenue. and also americans who are, who are employed as a result of the commercial relationship between the united states in south africa. the foreign diplomats hav

and they said he's in south africa. i said, what day are we you know, we were, we were lucky because we have the greatness and that we charge us how to create peace to. right. so we went in putting some of those lessons to those this and i specifically mentioned to him that this is how the us and my data to test when you want to have some things in the country, do it on an unconditional basis and sit down and show you straight to the to see what happens with a true yes. so i guess unfortunately i get the satellite pictures of that field of that killing field. sorry. we made the worst case. i don't expect anything. to be honest. i really don't know. they've got occasions, a lot of anger, their tremendous anger. i don't expect anything. we'll see what happens. whatever ruling and who knows what they're rolling is going to make was had a question or the do to take precedence from listening to the voices of south africa. some of whom his good friends like those were here but we have talks between us and the quiet other. rea

in south africa, black people tend to be workers in these farms. so it's a tiny percentage, 0.2% of the overall figure. but that's not something that the south africans could put across the white house today. >> larry madowo, thank you for for bringing us those facts. great to have you here tonight. my white house insiders are also joining me tonight at the table. ziyanda ngcobo is senior politics reporter for newzroom afrika. and we've got shelby, zolan kanno-youngs and michael shear here as well. i want to start with you, though, given, you know, being inside that room watching this all play out, actually things have been going smoothly. you may not realize that if you're watching the highlights that we're showing, they were talking about golf. there was a lot of laughter. and it was when a reporter asked about genocide that things really took a turn. >> it was actually me who asked that. you asked that question because i asked, what would it take president trump to convince you that there is no white genocide in south africa? and then you would h

they disliked the framework in south africa with this 142 laws by sunrise. more than that, everybody. and so that's really good stuff is from crime, but not everybody gets messages written in blood in the crime scene. think your to do a killed a pharma. not everyone is tens of thousands of people chanting for the demise and the most violent ways, these disproportionate violent torture against pharmacy in south africa. as also more than that is also the idea that the uh, the conflict that goes around to displacement. displacing people from the rifle property and denying a specific group of people that people think on the people the right to exist. also the can, the equality before the law and we had a non break shot into non sexist democratic society which has a room for all communities to exist and be projected when we. busy affected by a crime indeed, we're all a fidget and black and watch. it is low because they do shooting of wide space the there is no way that we have a government thing without the wife and the white house, the gunners investigating the

she will fit way of kind of solid applicants in south africa. these has been proven by a number of fame and statistics and no account, including the police reports. we've done back that day. and then a session or fame of persecution, of white south africans on the basis of daddy's and the crime that we have in south africa fits everyone's totally speaking people face and data is 54 fem of gender. i heard that there was a south african government, strongly opposes the trump administration's decision. we, i'm sorry, johannesburg corresponded diane hawker, what its main concerns are. well, i think the, the, the little real concern is around the tim refugee, which is a very specific term with an international law and is really reserved for groups of people who are facing extreme persecution and extreme difficulties in the country for various reasons. we know in south africa, for example, we have quite an influx of refugee applications from other african countries full of people escaping with people who are escaping persecution as a result of the you

c at abilene state department that follows what is going on in south africa said what denial isn't in strategy? well, we'll assume that uh if you look at a country like india and they are both part of brakes and they have a good relationship with the u. a so the interest of south africa would be to try and have a good relationship with for the trading bought this and india shown that that is possible. i think one of the other factors in terms of the racial legislation and racial discrimination in this country with the 1442. right. so pieces of legislation, the coordinate create relations that are being published the other day. and i think why that also has an impact, easy in terms of the 600 american companies working in south africa. and those that potentially want to come back to the video on the full team because they after implemented discriminatory policies. and we know, for instance, 11 stallings going to be in south africa, although it wouldn't be in the interest of the country to add that simply because of these preoccupied this preoccupation of rags. so i think that kind of d

has with south africa. about south african ties with moscow and beijing and they talk about accusations in -- pursuit of israel, specifically accusations in the international criminal court of justice that israel is committing genocide. those larger questions today have not been answered. says this member of the hudson institute. >> they pursued israel at the icj. the south africans say they are morally obliged to do this given their own history. that sounds great except when you consider that the south african government and the dominant african national congress has diplomatically supported some of the most violent and awful regimes in the world. so there is a stark double standard i think is less and less accepted in washington. nick: critics of the president say president trump's use of the word genocide while inviting afrikaners while blocking african and other refugees from coming to the united states undermines a sense of national cohesion in south africa, but also the understanding of the united sta

have a. >> passport in south africa? >> no, i want them to say they live in what the law says. >> these are great technical debates, but the bottom line is that they are. there's not a genocide in south africa. that's right. and there we have a refugee problem. >> i'm sure there's. >> been. >> violence against one side or the other. there has. >> been violence. >> but one question. >> on a second, hold on a second, hold on a second. i want to make a point. violence does not equal genocide. so we need to be really, really clear about that. because if you look. >> at the dead guy, you may not say that. >> no, i would say that actually, because if you look at what genocide is, it is very specific that you're trying to get rid of a people, a whole group of people. there is violence in south africa. they've had a very big violent uptick in violence. but black people have seen the brunt of that violence. that's not just. >> let me ask this question of the panel. if you get a passport and you're south african and you have that

people in south africa, we saw south african president, so them up also become quite frustrated, but he did count to those allegations and also contextualize them. the issue of the white genocide in south africa is one that does have the attention of many. so the africans, because those claims us simply not true. there is no white genocide in south africa and we heard from the president. we also heard from members of east integration. we include your honda rupert, who is a but you nate and also friend of donald trump. we also heard from the minister of agriculture, john student hasan, both of them saying there wasn't the genocide in south africa. and this so to me was an issue of crime. the talks that will continue between the us president and switch them up or so will likely continue to deal with those claims be made by donald trump. with what we've seen in the last couple of weeks, the, the us receive 49. what they call refugees from south africa, of the con, to people who say that they have slid south africa because of those type of threats and, and, and the feels that they have t

country's white minority were facing genocide and racial segregation, claims strongly denied by south africa the visit by mr ramaphosa comes just over a week after a group of 59 white south africans arrived in the us after being granted refugee status. the two presidents will talk about trade, with ramaphosa hoping to ease tensions between the two countries. let me take you to the live pictures at the white house, the cameras set up for that meeting. we should see the arrivals in the next while. usually, shortly afterwards, we get that spray of pictures with the president and whoever the head of state is talking to the media gathered in the oval office. we will watch for those live events and carry them here as soon as they happen. let's speak to sanusha naidu, who is a foreign policy analyst and senior research fellow at the institute for global dialogue, a south african-based foreign policy thinktank. in terms of the principal issues, tell me what is at stake here? i think it's really around the first sight of both presidents of each other, face-to-face. what is at stake is around what is

we are definitely facing a crisis in south africa regarding children that grow missing. this is a daily occurrence in our country. also coming up in the program, tributes to a literary legend. well, we look at the life of renowned kenyan writer ngugi wadiongo who's died aged 87. and in sport, the beautiful game. like you've never seen it before, we show you a sport that's giving disabled people in west africa a way to support themselves. well, many thanks for joining us. this is focus on africa. i'm wahiga mwaura. now. it could be potential relief for african economies, but it might not be for long. the united states federal court has blocked global trade tariffs imposed by president donald trump last month. in its ruling, the new york based court of international trade said president trump does not have unilateral powers to impose tariffs on nearly every country in the world. the judges also maintained that the constitution grants congress exclusive powers to regulate commerce with other countries. it... ruled that this cannot be superceeded by the president using the 1

is there a violence in south africa? yes. and everybody has confirmed that including president around the post sites, members of these cabinets. everybody admitted that there's a huge, you know, on the corner issue in south africa, body's not erase a tinge of you know, her stevie to violence, targeting white people are they are extremely steps. factions in south africa like my landline others, v. chantelle killed a lower and all of that. yes. just that does exist. is that government policy? absolutely not. so this is all modeled and complicated. but the tragedy in this, i would say, is the real issue where, where the president would have a some legitimate complaint about south africa hasn't been touched if he's not in this public aspect of the meeting. and that is the drifting of south africa towards china and russia. that is really a problem. the fact that south africa has been not able to take a firm position on the water and ukraine. that is a real problem, not that at this point. this matters. so much to the top administr

the president of south africa addressing his claim of genocide pointing out that there were three white south africans in the room with him including a member of his own government. trump then put on the video that you just saw and eggs are of and it is a video of a prominent south african leader, julius leading one of the major opposition parties calling for the murder of farmers, chanting, kill the farmer, shoot to kill, being joined in that chant by stadiums full of supporters and south africa actually has laws against hate speech even in this country were we don't have hate speech laws that speech would be considered incitement but as trump pointed out nothing was being done about that and south africa has laws including one recently signed by cyril ramaphosa himself about the taking of property without compensation and there are racially discriminatory laws against other minority groups within south africa so trump showed the south african president to his face the evidence that the south african president was trying to deny with this nakedly racial appeal and it was very effective

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