president as bob strom had said in 2004 because they were all very hesitent within a few minutes effectively virginia went the whole election was done. and i think it took them all by surprise. one key moment though, he canceled the fireworks on the night, an executive desigs to tone things down. again, a sort of supernatural ability to step outside the moment and say let's be disciplined because people are watching. >> the book is called renegade from crown publishing, the making of a president. our guest richard wolf. thanks for joining us. >> thanks so much. >> we are going to turn our attention to politics. two members of the california lur, george runner and darrell stineberg and later in the program governor tim poll ente, governor of minnesota. it is sunday morning, and washington journal continues. >> how is c-span funded? >> private donations? >> i don't really know. >> from public television. >> donations. >> i don't know where the money comes from. >> federally? >> it comes from donors. >> how is c-span funded? 30 years ago, america's cable companies created c-span as a public ser